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Similar to another posters issues, I have now had three HORRIBLE refurb TB's, added to the horrible refurb TP2's that I had about a year ago. Verizon (mike peir is his name) told me that if this last one wouldn't fix my problems, (random RB's, unable to get GPS lock, and for some unknown reason I lost lte) Then they would send me a new one. Welllllll, I called mike on his personal work number and he feeds me some bs of "well after reviewing your account again I don't know that I can honor that." Dude has flat out lied to me. Also, I spend about 200 a month though VZW where I would only be spending about 165 after discounts and such through sprint. I understand that the wimax isn't lte, but I can save money, and if I'm going to get crappy(lying) customer service though both, what's the point in spending an extra 500 dollars a year? I just want some feedback as to what I should do? What would you do if you were in my situation? Also, I have sent back the refurbs each time instead of my phone because they were all, externally, in worse condition than mine. And one had the same SW issues as mine. Will post pics later.
It's a software issue, just wait for the update. As far as sprint being cheaper of course they are. No carrier can compete with VZW on service so they have to compete on price.
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You think Verizon is bad at customer sevice. Good luck on sprint.
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I thought that I had one of the power button hanging down, but I guess I don't.
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the issues you are talking about have all been discussed her and like crazyhtown says will be fixed in a software update soon. OR you could grow a pair and just root the dang thing and flash a different radio, worked for me. I had the EXACT same issues with my Tbolt after the OTA update, flashed a different radio and it was solved
Was rooted when I lost 4g. And the GPS still wouldn't lock. The only thing that rooting fixed was random reboots. When I was on das bamf 1.7 remix I lost 4g and couldn't get it back. I have tried everything to fix the 4g issue, that was the kicker. I was dealing without GPS, but what's the point in having a LTE device if you can't use it? Now I'm back stock it 4g still isn't back. I have tried enabling and disabling eharp, and obviously I have tried turning on LTE/evdo. (I'm in a heavily covered 4g area and drive from one side of that area to the other every day. I live in north charlotte and drive to south charlotte. 28031 to 28273) I don't know why I lost it, but it did. I have pulled the sim card and reseated it, and that didn't fix it either. But I refuse to take a device that is not in at least as good of condition as the one I am sending back.
Try talking to a manager. I have, on rare occasion, had to resort to this. I usually have no problems with the CSRs, but when I begin getting inconsistent information that doesn't seem right, I talk to them.
How long have you been a Verizon customer? Have you ever had Sprint 'service'?
Is there any substantial WiMAX coverage in your area? Or is it spotty at best?
If no substantial WiMAX in your area, I would just tell Verizon to give you a good 3G phone until they can provide a reliable LTE network & phone. One can usually negotiate a solution with Verizon. Escalate as high as you need to until you find someone that can work out a solution.
I finally got the guy who I referenced in my first post to honor what he told me to begin with. He called me back about 20 mins ago and apologized for telling me something he shouldn't have, then said he "looked further into my account" and could "honor what he promised Saturday". He was supposedly a call center manager. Because he was who I was escalated to on Saturday. They are sending me a new phone now. I guess I'm happy, but it seems like an awful lot of effort just to get the guy to do what he promised he would do previously. Which the way he called back makes me think he got his hand slapped by his superior, because he apologized like 20 times for promising something "he wasn't supposed to."
5 years with VZW. I had sprint(nextel actually) before that. Then ATT before that. ATT is the only one I would never do business with again. I mainly left sprint because my now fiancée was on verizon and I was blowing through minutes just talking to her. Between the two of us I usually average about 1000 m2m now, and that's down from what we used to talk. (more like her talk, and I listen. lol) So I really needed to make a move because of that.
Wimax is pretty solid where i'm at, it just doesn't go as far north as LTE does. It drops about 10 miles north of here. However, where I commute and live I am always in wimax.
Verizon has appeased me for now, I'm still not sure if I will stay when my contracts are up. I guess the guy thought I was bluffing before I asked how much my etfs were and started giving him my card number.
My suggesstion is to stick it out with vzw. I recently switched to vzw from AT&T and paid a heftly cancellation fee to do so because I was fed up with their service and shopped around before landing on Verizon. This was money well spent. I made the right choice, as someone else said above, others may be cheaper but I doubt if anyone will be better. Once the update comes for the TB all will be well.
Thanks for the responses, I think I'm going to stick it out for a few more months and see how it goes. But, right now VZW is on a very short leash. They did, after hours on the phone, finally make good on their promise. Sorry for bogging down the forum, and again, thanks for all the answers.
If you think you're going to have a better experience with replacement phones on AT&T, or Sprint, or T-Mobile, good luck. You won't. Unless you visit a warranty center for AT&T, you won't get a working phone in any quicker timeframe then you could with Verizon.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
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Similar to another posters issues, I have now had three HORRIBLE refurb TB's, added to the horrible refurb TP2's that I had about a year ago. Verizon (mike peir is his name) told me that if this last one wouldn't fix my problems, (random RB's, unable to get GPS lock, and for some unknown reason I lost lte) Then they would send me a new one. Welllllll, I called mike on his personal work number and he feeds me some bs of "well after reviewing your account again I don't know that I can honor that." Dude has flat out lied to me. Also, I spend about 200 a month though VZW where I would only be spending about 165 after discounts and such through sprint. I understand that the wimax isn't lte, but I can save money, and if I'm going to get crappy(lying) customer service though both, what's the point in spending an extra 500 dollars a year? I just want some feedback as to what I should do? What would you do if you were in my situation? Also, I have sent back the refurbs each time instead of my phone because they were all, externally, in worse condition than mine. And one had the same SW issues as mine. Will post pics later.
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Stop calling mike. Call corporate. My bud threatened to cancel 5 accountant over a MOTO Droid dropping calls when he found out a Droid x was coming...short of it is he had a Droid x 1 week before they dropped. His business skills were impressive...shady but impressive cause his d1 never dropped a call lol
I'm not saying they will be greener. But a 500 A year savings might be worth leaving if I'm going to have issues no matter where I go. Maybe I'm wrong, it just seemed today like VZW wasn't worth their word. Like I said though, he did rectify it. So I'm appeased for now. We will see if I have any more issues. If not, then ill stay, if so, then I leave.
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I came from from sprint after being a 7 yr customer. Year their CS sucks but the plans are gonna save you $ no matter what. I was lied to from a Radio Shack employee who said that At&T had the cheapest plans and after finding out the truth we canceled our contract with AT&t and had to go with Verizon since we did an early termination with sprint. I regret it every second. Sprint always has the best phones out the fastest. they are deffinetly on the cutting edge of cell phones. the 3d evo comes out in a few weeks and you can record, take pics in 3D and the whole phone is 3D without and glasses. Plus you get unlimited everything for $69 a month. No throtteling like verizon and no data limits with At&t. Sprint is by far the best way to go. IMO
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I came from from sprint after being a 7 yr customer. Year their CS sucks but the plans are gonna save you $ no matter what. I was lied to from a Radio Shack employee who said that At&T had the cheapest plans and after finding out the truth we canceled our contract with AT&t and had to go with Verizon since we did an early termination with sprint. I regret it every second. Sprint always has the best phones out the fastest. they are deffinetly on the cutting edge of cell phones. the 3d evo comes out in a few weeks and you can record, take pics in 3D and the whole phone is 3D without and glasses. Plus you get unlimited everything for $69 a month. No throtteling like verizon and no data limits with At&t. Sprint is by far the best way to go. IMO
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What does having different phones that maybe you enjoy a few from have anything to do with quality of service? Sprint has slowest network and honestly with Tmobile and AT&T doing their thing I honestly think Sprint is at the bottom of the food chain. Yes I enjoy some phones on other carriers service but will I give up decent CS for it? No way but we all know everyone had had good, bad or no issues with their carrier so again this is to each their own.
Issue here is same as most other cell phone companies they are representing the developers of the phones so they need to protect their investment in making it hard to get replacement devices when you are outside the 14 days. Sprint, AT&T and VZ all have huge flaws when it comes to warranty replacement but when it comes to generally trying to take care of the Customer I still without a doubt think VZ does the best. You need to be in full control of what you want a justifable resolution when you call and ask for a Manager. Do not take no for an answer and let them know they need to stand by the quality expected from a brand new phone.
Yes phones have flaws but hourly reboots is not acceptable. Replacement devices that are not put together right is not acceptable. Lying to customer to put them off to next CS rep is not acceptable. Making promises and not following up on them and trying to give customers the run around is not acceptable.
I had SO many issues with launch of this phone most people don't believe me. Yet I kept trying to get phone without issues I has having. Non fuctional power buttons, displays not aligned on phone even, BAD light leaking from bottom of the case. So I have placed 6 total orders from Customer Care since March 17th. Have 5 device swaps at the store and they gave up and put me in touch with phone tech support. After 2 months of awaiting my bill to be fixed and having to contact HTC on how bad VZ was handling my situation I got resolution and taken VERY good care of.
Result was follow up Customer Service rep from HTC calling and offering me any HTC device I wanted on VZ network and they would take care of VZ. So I said I want to be locked into 4G data plan and I want only the Thunderbolt and will not wait for next device months to come. They contacted VZ on my behalf and guess what I got a Manager overide contact renewal which means being I was out of orginal 14 days and lack of 5 supervisor call backs VZ had to put me in a new contract date and send me a new phone for free. So I have spare TB that just needs the Software update and has peeling on kickstand. Free extended battery and all my shipping charges were removed from EVERY order.
Point is there are tons of good phones out there but if you want the most reliable Customer service SADLY you must speak with Management 75% of the time to get results you expect for your situation. I did not back down and I patiently waited and today I get my new devices from VZ.
Yep. Oftentimes the key to resolving a problem is primarily finding the right person to speak with. True at both Verizon and HTC. When I was on Sprint, I can remember waiting on hold forever before even speaking to the first level of customer support.
There is no service like Verizon. They are the leaders for a reason. And sprint is cheap and have the least customers for a reason...
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2nd day Fedex for free from VZ for my replacement Bolt
1 week USPS from ATT to replace my girlfriend's Captivate
$15 "express shipping" available
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Now I thought I got a good deal when I paid $175 for my thunderbolt at the end of march. Now take a look see at this friggin deal.
http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=36210_95b25ad5c63f4dcd8d51ee11b85188b1
WTF, VZW is really sending us down the drain now. Soon you'll be able to pick up a thunderbolt in a happy meal box....
VZW staying consistent though and still charging a full 250.00 for the damn thing. WOW
do you know the difference between a direct store and an indirect store?
what am I missing its still 149.99
Nope still there
It's $60 for new customers. $150 for upgrading.
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do you know the difference between a direct store and an indirect store?
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This is what makes XDA so good... The people.
Spotted a deal,
sharing it,
Expressed a little confusion on pricing and
some jag tries to create an illusion that he is a superior person by pointing out that this deal is because of the type of store that sells it.
REALLY about a $200 difference...
Wirefly has always offered great deals but when they can sell the same device at %20 of the price you have to wonder why VZW demands such a hefty price.
VZW must have some pretty good kickbacks now that they have there limited Data services which will definitely pull in some megabucks.
Direct locations are owned by verizon and indirect locations are not. Never goto direct stores, and they have no flexibility on pricing what so ever and generally arnt as friendly.
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i payed $250 for mine at best buy in june.
stayin100 said:
Direct locations are owned by verizon and indirect locations are not. Never goto direct stores, and they have no flexibility on pricing what so ever and generally arnt as friendly.
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I went to a direct store and they matched Amazon's price on the Thunderbolt.
Enjoy your "new" phone, that's been activated on at least two other accounts...yay indirects
All indirects aren't the same. Mine isn't allowed to do that, once a phone has been activated we aren't allowed to sell it again and must return it to the manufacturer.
Well generally phones do go down in price with age, and a few months is quite a lot when it comes to technology.
I paid $250.00 used no contract.
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Indirects get F'd in the butt with stupid goddamn deals like that. Indirects buy the phones at wholesale. The Thunderbolt is so expensive that the profit is crap. To upgrade someone to a thunderbolt only brings in 80 something dollars. If we discount the phone anymore than $80 we lose money.
We don't have to honor Amazon or Wireflyer deals. But when VZW pulls a deal like buy one get one free for the Droid 3 and Droid X2 we get ****ed cause we have to honor it.
A couple did that yesterday...his and hers Droid X2s. What would have been a $250 profit ended up being $50.
It's not that big of a deal for a direct store to match an Amazon deal. VZW makes tons of money from the contracts. Why do you think they give away the top of the line devices to their reps?
Indirects make money from a combination of phones and contracts. With some phones it's no big deal to give them for free but with a smartphone it's a whole nother story.
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I dont think you guys are reading the fine print for wirefly and amazon...it says that if your services are suspended disconnected or you change your plan within 181 days that you will have a chargeback of $250. So lets say you disconnect your ETF would be $350 ( minus $10 for every mon of active service) plus the chargeback. I dont know about you but thats not something I want to worry about.
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Indirects get F'd in the butt with stupid goddamn deals like that. Indirects buy the phones at wholesale. The Thunderbolt is so expensive that the profit is crap. To upgrade someone to a thunderbolt only brings in 80 something dollars. If we discount the phone anymore than $80 we lose money.
We don't have to honor Amazon or Wireflyer deals. But when VZW pulls a deal like buy one get one free for the Droid 3 and Droid X2 we get ****ed cause we have to honor it.
A couple did that yesterday...his and hers Droid X2s. What would have been a $250 profit ended up being $50.
It's not that big of a deal for a direct store to match an Amazon deal. VZW makes tons of money from the contracts. Why do you think they give away the top of the line devices to their reps?
Indirects make money from a combination of phones and contracts. With some phones it's no big deal to give them for free but with a smartphone it's a whole nother story.
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I tried to go to a local verizon 3rd party dealer. They didn't have any iphones, said they didn't sell... I said, it's only the number 1 selling phone of all time but ok sure. Asked them about a Thunderbolt, they said 250. I said I can get it online for 100 bucks. They said they could give me a free case...
I bought a thunderbolt and 2 dinc2's from amazon for 200, free 2 day shipping.
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I dont think you guys are reading the fine print for wirefly and amazon...it says that if your services are suspended disconnected or you change your plan within 181 days that you will have a chargeback of $250. So lets say you disconnect your ETF would be $350 ( minus $10 for every mon of active service) plus the chargeback. I dont know about you but thats not something I want to worry about.
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Sure I read the fine print. Not like I'm jumping off the unlimited data bandwagon anyways.
Apple are a bunch of assholes. The Iphone only brings in $40 of profit because Apple has their own data plan. It's no different in price and size for the customer but not for the retailer. Also their phones are a fortune to buy and we aren't allowed to sell them for a penny more than listed. We have iphones in our stores but unless the customer has their heart set on them we always steer them into an android.
Also we're not in the business of selling phones as much as we are in the business of customer service. For those that go online to buy things, they always "know better" and don't need our help.
My favorite part is when the online shopper needs to have their contacts transferred, needs their bluetooth synced to their car or has some issue with the phone; comes in the store and blows their stack when we say it's a $15 charge for any of that. Aaaaahahahaha!
In the long run it pays to give a little back to your local business.
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Apple are a bunch of assholes. The Iphone only brings in $40 of profit because Apple has their own data plan. It's no different in price and size for the customer but not for the retailer. Also their phones are a fortune to buy and we aren't allowed to sell them for a penny more than listed. We have iphones in our stores but unless the customer has their heart set on them we always steer them into an android.
Also we're not in the business of selling phones as much as we are in the business of customer service. For those that go online to buy things, they always "know better" and don't need our help.
My favorite part is when the online shopper needs to have their contacts transferred, needs their bluetooth synced to their car or has some issue with the phone; comes in the store and blows their stack when we say it's a $15 charge for any of that. Aaaaahahahaha!
In the long run it pays to give a little back to your local business.
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You are in the business of "customer service" yet you will steer a customer to an android device and away from an apple device because of a higher profit margin and not necessarily what's best for the customer?
And any corporate verizon store will try and help transfer those contacts for free.
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I dont think you guys are reading the fine print for wirefly and amazon...it says that if your services are suspended disconnected or you change your plan within 181 days that you will have a chargeback of $250. So lets say you disconnect your ETF would be $350 ( minus $10 for every mon of active service) plus the chargeback. I dont know about you but thats not something I want to worry about.
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Honestly? Unless you pass on paying your bill, youll never have an issue. Theyre not crazy about it. Theyre actually pretty reasonable from my experience. Not to mention MDPA insurance PWNS Assurion ALL DAY LONG. Wirefly ftw. I got my phone release day for 182 shipped with the first month of insurance paid.
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Apple are a bunch of assholes. The Iphone only brings in $40 of profit because Apple has their own data plan. It's no different in price and size for the customer but not for the retailer. Also their phones are a fortune to buy and we aren't allowed to sell them for a penny more than listed. We have iphones in our stores but unless the customer has their heart set on them we always steer them into an android.
Also we're not in the business of selling phones as much as we are in the business of customer service. For those that go online to buy things, they always "know better" and don't need our help.
My favorite part is when the online shopper needs to have their contacts transferred, needs their bluetooth synced to their car or has some issue with the phone; comes in the store and blows their stack when we say it's a $15 charge for any of that. Aaaaahahahaha!
In the long run it pays to give a little back to your local business.
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Id laugh at you while walking the hell out of your store. You obviously dont know what customer service means.
So Verizon releases the GS3 locked and all the other US carriers, and the world for that matter, get an unlocked version. After that Samsung releases a developers edition unsubsidized right from them.
It got me thinking, what if it was always like this. You don't buy the phone from the carrier you buy whatever phone you want from the manufacturer or Best Buy or wherever and as long as it will work on the network you can activate it on whatever carrier. That's how the rest of the world does it, I think we're one of the few if not the only countries that has a set up that subsidizes phones.
Think about it, Manufacturers could concentrate on making phones, instead of making a special phone for each carrier, then going through the hassle of putting their software on it, even packaging would be reduced by standardizing it. Just a few different models to cover different wordwide networks, not 3 or so for the world and 4 or 5 just for the US. Sure they may be expensive at the beginning but the prices will come down and budget phones will appear too that arent absolute crap because you would actually still have to pay for it.
Not to mention having more options as to where yo can get your phone which should also help prices.
Carriers could stop concentrating on what new phone to release and what to add and what to lock down and actually concentrate on improving their networks. Also in theory plan prices should come down too, because you may pay less up front but the extra cost of that phone is built in into everyones plans. I mean they get the money back over the course of the plan by forcing you into a contract, does that make them that much extra money? I mean it must right?
On the surface this looks like it should work. Now In sure there is a reason it wont otherwise it would have happened by now right? But then again the rest of the world does it this way.
Why are we different? Yeah it would be painful at the beginning but I really think that this would be better form everyone in the long run. Wouldn't it be great to just go out and buy whatever new phone you wanted. Not have to wait to see what gets picked up by what carrier. All the complaining about this phone not coming here or that phone not going there gone.
Alot of Americans do this. It is called prepaid.
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Alot of Americans do this. It is called prepaid.
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That used to be the inferior way to go though. They were on some off network with spotty coverage and the phone selection was usually garbage. They have come a very long way, but still arent quite there, albeit very close now. It would be nice if everyone did it though. When my contract is up on Verizon next year there is a good chance Ill go prepaid if they take unlimited away which I'm nearly sure they're going to do.
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That used to be the inferior way to go though. They were on some off network with spotty coverage and the phone selection was usually garbage. They have come a very long way, but still arent quite there, albeit very close now. It would be nice if everyone did it though. When my contract is up on Verizon next year there is a good chance Ill go prepaid if they take unlimited away which I'm nearly sure they're going to do.
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Not quite there?? With straight talk you have the option to use either t-mobile or AT&T. It uses the exact same towers and gets the exact same service as the customers of their carriers! Prepaid has come a long way my friend.
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Not quite there?? With straight talk you have the option to use either t-mobile or AT&T. It uses the exact same towers and gets the exact same service as the customers of their carriers! Prepaid has come a long way my friend.
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Amen. Unlimited everything for $50 a month, and I'm enjoying it on my i9300. Full AT&T service for a fraction of the cost. I've gone over the safe limit of 2GB and haven't been warned or cut off either. Port your number to Google Voice and you never have to worry about losing it if you get cut off.
A big part of it is control; a bigger part is money.
Despite Sprint and Verizon's 3G being compatible (and commonly sharing towers), neither carrier will allow each others phone to be on their network. They want to ensure that the phone you are using, they (VZ) were paid for (a model that GSM providers cannot (easily) do).
And you best believe that the Dev SIII has VZ's blessing; again, they can block any phone they like, and this phone would not activate on their network if they didn't allow it to. They allow it, because Sammy has assumed all the liability on this one (can't buy it at a VZ store, no worry about warranty issues).
The control comes in, in the form of nice "cheap" phones, getting you to agree to nice long contracts. Far too many people live just for today; they opt for the $200 phone, but agree to a far more expensive contract for 2 years. They know people will only look at the "now" cost, not the total, so it is easy to lure em in...
I have Sprint with TEP. I have 3 lines and had two phones replaced this year, one with a broken speaker and the other the charging port broke off. I don't think a prepaid service would ever do that for me. I'd be stuck shelling out $500+ to replace my phone.
OP is basically asking for how the "rest of the world" does things. And Divine_Madcat got it down best. They want to control their own phones, even though it's sold to you. And they want more money.
There's thread on the Gnex forum that goes into better detail how these "subsidized" models are bad overall, as the OP is realizing(or has already). I always buy my phone off-contract because I don't want to tied to a contract. Now? I want to buy a pentaband phone so I can get service anywhere I please.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
I agree there actually at the point where they are an option now. I said they were very close. The phones they offer are still not the greatest, but I guess that wouldn't matter as you just go get whatever you wanted and had it activated. I don't know though I looked at straight talks coverage map and it looks pretty bad, well not pretty bad but really really bad, if your using an android phone, for whatever reason they have one for non android and one for.
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I have Sprint with TEP. I have 3 lines and had two phones replaced this year, one with a broken speaker and the other the charging port broke off. I don't think a prepaid service would ever do that for me. I'd be stuck shelling out $500+ to replace my phone.
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Manufacturers offer warranties as well. There are also many different insurance options out there...ensquared comes to mind...and most of them are cheaper per month with no deductible. Think of it like buying an Iphone straight from the Apple store. Just because you didn't purchase it on AT&T doesn't mean you are screwed if it is defective...
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OP is basically asking for how the "rest of the world" does things. And Divine_Madcat got it down best. They want to control their own phones, even though it's sold to you. And they want more money.
There's thread on the Gnex forum that goes into better detail how these "subsidized" models are bad overall, as the OP is realizing(or has already). I always buy my phone off-contract because I don't want to tied to a contract. Now? I want to buy a pentaband phone so I can get service anywhere I please.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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Yeah I know its bad, but I guess the way I see it is it seems bad from everyone. I could see everyone making more money if we went unsubsidized.
Also if I were to go no contract which I will be doing weather I stay with Verizon or not, as I have unlimited, I doing see how I would save any money doing it. They don't change me any less of I don't use their phones, though that would be nice. They actually make more money because the subside fee is built into everyones plans as far as I know.
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Manufacturers offer warranties as well. There are also many different insurance options out there...ensquared comes to mind...and most of them are cheaper per month with no deductible. Think of it like buying an Iphone straight from the Apple store. Just because you didn't purchase it on AT&T doesn't mean you are screwed if it is defective...
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They would just sell you applecare for you iphone. You would still get protection it would just come from somewhere else.
Hey I'm from Britain, how does it work in the USA with phone then? Here even of you buy it from a carrier you can get it unlocked for say £10 or do it yourself if you do a quick Google search and some reading then it works on all other carriers?
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Manufacturers offer warranties as well. There are also many different insurance options out there...ensquared comes to mind...and most of them are cheaper per month with no deductible. Think of it like buying an Iphone straight from the Apple store. Just because you didn't purchase it on AT&T doesn't mean you are screwed if it is defective...
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Thanks, that was one of my concerns with prepaid. I have kids with smartphones, they are pretty rough with them sometimes.
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I have Sprint with TEP. I have 3 lines and had two phones replaced this year, one with a broken speaker and the other the charging port broke off. I don't think a prepaid service would ever do that for me. I'd be stuck shelling out $500+ to replace my phone.
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TEP is just went up to $11 a month with a $200 deductible. $11 x 24 months x 3 lines = $792, +2 broken phones x ($200) = $1192. If the phones were broken starting from the day the price changed. This is assuming you had the protection from the beginning to the end of your contract.
Square-Trade covers almost any type of device, including phones. 2 years of protection is $125. The deductible is $100. If you had Square-Trade, you would have paid $125 x 3 + 2 broken phones x ($100) = $575. Also, $125 for 2 years of coverage divided by 24 months is $5.21 per month per device vs $11 with Sprint. And if they can't fix it, they'll cut you a check for a new one up to $750.
The only thing they don't cover, I believe, is theft. But let's be honest, how often are you robbed? And I've personally never lost a phone because I watch out for my $600 device.
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OP is basically asking for how the "rest of the world" does things. And Divine_Madcat got it down best. They want to control their own phones, even though it's sold to you. And they want more money.
There's thread on the Gnex forum that goes into better detail how these "subsidized" models are bad overall, as the OP is realizing(or has already). I always buy my phone off-contract because I don't want to tied to a contract. Now? I want to buy a pentaband phone so I can get service anywhere I please.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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Check those coverage maps, Maybe I'm used to Verizon but the coverage on those GSM Prepaid guys especially for smartphones is pretty terrible.
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Hey I'm from Britain, how does it work in the USA with phone then? Here even of you buy it from a carrier you can get it unlocked for say £10 or do it yourself if you do a quick Google search and some reading then it works on all other carriers?
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Doesn't work that way here and thats the problem, it should. You buy a phone from the carrier that only works on that carriers network. Even if you get say a Verizon phone that should theoretically work on Sprint, as theyre both CDMA and even share towers sometimes, they wont let you. You would have to get Verzion to unlock your phone first and then even if they did you would have to activate it on sprint which they wont do. They will only activate an ESN that is tied to them. I think they get all the ESNs for the phones they're going to sell and put them in a database. If you have an ESN isn't in the database the phone will not activate. I think the GSM providers basically do the same thing, but I would know I haven't been on GSM for I cant even remember how long.
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Check those coverage maps, Maybe I'm used to Verizon but the coverage on those GSM Prepaid guys especially for smartphones is pretty terrible.
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Straight Talk offers unlimited talk, text, and data for $50 a month after taxes. It comes with full AT&T coverage or full T-Mobile coverage, with your choice of SIM. There's no throttling, and I get the same data speeds that any post-paid AT&T subscriber would get.
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Straight Talk offers unlimited talk, text, and data for $50 a month after taxes. It comes with full AT&T coverage or full T-Mobile coverage, with your choice of SIM. There's no throttling, and I get the same data speeds that any post-paid AT&T subscriber would get.
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I'm sure your right, but if someone went to the straight talk website wanting a smartphone and looked at that coverage map they would think the coverage was awful. They need to update that map.
Still arguing coverage aside the real question is I guess is why does subsidizing happen here but not anywhere else?
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Straight Talk offers unlimited talk, text, and data for $50 a month after taxes. It comes with full AT&T coverage or full T-Mobile coverage, with your choice of SIM. There's no throttling, and I get the same data speeds that any post-paid AT&T subscriber would get.
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It's not true unlimited data though, right. If you go over around 2 don't they cut off your service?
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It's not true unlimited data though, right. If you go over around 2 don't they cut off your service?
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I've been over 2GB. Others have gone over 6GB. Nothing has happened. It depends on the subscriber base in your area; if a lot of people are on the same network you're on (meaning AT&T ST SIM and AT&T Post-paid subscribers, for example) you shouldn't strain the network by streaming Pandora for hours and tethering. But hey, I'm in NYC and nothing has happened. I live in Brooklyn and work in Manhattan by Radio City Hall/Rockefeller Center. Not even a single warning.
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Here's me data usage with att straight talk this month. I don't think they give a ****... Mind you my month started June 28th
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I'm sure your right, but if someone went to the straight talk website wanting a smartphone and looked at that coverage map they would think the coverage was awful. They need to update that map.
Still arguing coverage aside the real question is I guess is why does subsidizing happen here but not anywhere else?
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Well you shouldn't be looking at a straight talk coverage map as they don't own towers. You should be looking at an AT&T or T-Mobile coverage map.
So I can't be the only one here, who has been in contract with Verizon since day 1 of the Thunderbolt hitting the streets. Since Verizon has removed unlimited data, and moved with alltell customers to loose their plans, I am wondering if come March those of us who will be the first people out of contract with Verizon with LTE will be getting letters telling us they have decided to move us to their wonderful tierd data plans!
I am only saying this because I really want to buy a Note II but I don't want to drop 500-600 dollars on a used one and find out that my service is getting changed, and have to leave Verizon for another carrier with unlimited data anyway.
So, any one worried about march?
Who says they are going to bunp those with unlimited data to a tiered plan when their contract is up?
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Who says they are going to bunp those with unlimited data to a tiered plan when their contract is up?
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I didn't say anyone said they would, I am just looking at how verizon does things.
Also, no one on unlimited data with 4G has had their contract expire yet, so no one can say they won't.
They are making the alltell plans go away, so why not the unlimited data ones as the contracts expire?
Sounds exactly like some **** they'd do too.
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my parents just got divorced and myself and my brother have unlimited data plans. We had to alter our plan because of this. one sibling is on my fathers new plan, one is on my mothers new plan. we both retained unlimited data through this situation.
If they gonna force tiered data they are going to start in june 2014 just after everyone who preorder the GS3 to retain unlimited is off contract
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Just an fyi... I know many people here try to keep their unlimited data and hold off as long as possible to get their upgrade so they dont lose it. I had a thunderbolt that worked when it pleased for almost 3 months before i finally gave in.
When i went to get my s3 a fee weeks ago i found a pretty cool rep. I was with my sister as she shares an account with me and my mother. Showed the rep my beat up tb and he asked y i took so long to get my upgrade which i have been due for for nearly 7 months. Explained to him i had no intention of giving up my unlimited data because i constantly use 4+gb a month. But my phone completely died so i juat had to do it.
He pulled up the account and saw that my mother already ady had the tiered data on her line. At this point he told me that if i wanted to keep my unlimited data i could apply the upgrade to her line... So activate the s3 with her number, at which point the phone is mine...then he would deactivate it and read activate it with my number and reactivate my mothers line... So now we have 2 s3 will unlimited data and and ipone with 2gb cap on my account.
If you have multiple lines... One of which is either suspended or has tierd data this is an option you can use. If the rep you get your phone from isnt as friendly, apply your upgrade to the other line instead of yours... Call customer service when you get home and have them do it. Reps might be kind of iffy about doing this i was told its supposed to be unmentionable.
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One of my lines contract's has run out, without any word from Verizon on cutting it's unlimited plan.
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Just an fyi... I know many people here try to keep their unlimited data and hold off as long as possible to get their upgrade so they dont lose it. I had a thunderbolt that worked when it pleased for almost 3 months before i finally gave in.
When i went to get my s3 a fee weeks ago i found a pretty cool rep. I was with my sister as she shares an account with me and my mother. Showed the rep my beat up tb and he asked y i took so long to get my upgrade which i have been due for for nearly 7 months. Explained to him i had no intention of giving up my unlimited data because i constantly use 4+gb a month. But my phone completely died so i juat had to do it.
He pulled up the account and saw that my mother already ady had the tiered data on her line. At this point he told me that if i wanted to keep my unlimited data i could apply the upgrade to her line... So activate the s3 with her number, at which point the phone is mine...then he would deactivate it and read activate it with my number and reactivate my mothers line... So now we have 2 s3 will unlimited data and and ipone with 2gb cap on my account.
If you have multiple lines... One of which is either suspended or has tierd data this is an option you can use. If the rep you get your phone from isnt as friendly, apply your upgrade to the other line instead of yours... Call customer service when you get home and have them do it. Reps might be kind of iffy about doing this i was told its supposed to be unmentionable.
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This has been the case for a long time. Many many people have used this well after unlimited data was over. Its kinda been unspoken to only refer to it in passing as an alternate upgrade or stealing an upgrade. The more people that use thus loophole the more likely Verizon will patch it.
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One of my lines contract's has run out, without any word from Verizon on cutting it's unlimited plan.
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How? Were you on a 1 year plan? There is no way that went month to month on a 2 year LTE contract.
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Yes, it was a two year plan. It started out as unlimited 3g, and went to unlimited 4g about half way through.
I think everyone should be aware that unlimited data will be ending for ALL carriers sometime in the future, probably not this year or next year but certainly within 5 - 10 years.
The number of smart phone users is growing, bandwidth is not growing and the handwriting is on the wall, like it or not. No carrier has the ability to provide unlimited bandwidth to unlimited subscribers.
Fortunately for me, my 2GB plan is more than adequate, almost all my data use is over WiFi and I seldom hit even 1GB. One thing I've done to limit my data use is to install wireless 'N' routers at my house, my sister's house in California and my girlfriend's house here in Phoenix, those $20 swapmeet/Craig's List/Ebay second hand routers plus free WiFi at most places where I hang out almost eliminate my 3G/4G data use.
I bought a droid x a little after it came out and signed a new 2 year contract..I eventually got a used gs3 from craigslist so I activated it and my contract has been up for months and I still have unlimited..
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I think the problem will come up if you try to get a new phone at the 2 year contract price. They will likely try and force you to a tiered data plan when signing the 'new' 2 year agreement. You would likely be able to get around it by paying outright for a new phone (no new contract to sign), but that's if you want to pay the $500-600 to do so.
I understand why Unlimited Data is on its last legs for all carriers, I just wish the tiers were more reasonable. I don't consider myself someone who abuses the network, but I am away from WiFi often and use about 6-12 gigs a month. I'd have to pay an insane premium to have that capability again. It really feels like a huge step backwards and contradicts the cloud movement but I get it. I just don't like it. We need a breakthrough dammit!
I'll be sure to enjoy my next 1.5 years of unlimited service.
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I think the problem will come up if you try to get a new phone at the 2 year contract price. They will likely try and force you to a tiered data plan when signing the 'new' 2 year agreement. You would likely be able to get around it by paying outright for a new phone (no new contract to sign), but that's if you want to pay the $500-600 to do so.
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Depending on your data usage, it can be far cheaper to buy the phone outright instead of paying for a bigger data package over the 2 year contract. Of course you can always choose to change your data usage behavior and get the 2GB route which will be cheaper. I bet they're banking on people to do that.
But here's to hoping they lit the minority unlimited users remain as long as they're willing to buy phones full price!
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I think everyone should be aware that unlimited data will be ending for ALL carriers sometime in the future, probably not this year or next year but certainly within 5 - 10 years.
The number of smart phone users is growing, bandwidth is not growing and the handwriting is on the wall, like it or not. No carrier has the ability to provide unlimited bandwidth to unlimited subscribers.
Fortunately for me, my 2GB plan is more than adequate, almost all my data use is over WiFi and I seldom hit even 1GB. One thing I've done to limit my data use is to install wireless 'N' routers at my house, my sister's house in California and my girlfriend's house here in Phoenix, those $20 swapmeet/Craig's List/Ebay second hand routers plus free WiFi at most places where I hang out almost eliminate my 3G/4G data use.
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I think that this is totally wrong. The teared pricing will go away as pressure mounts and people can move to local Wmax systems. I have unlimited and have had it since WM4 when it was "3g what is that". Many cities are gong Wmax (where I live Grand Rapids many areas are complete) this will totally eliminate need for Cell data. 4G consumes less electrical power, has greater bandwidth for the end user with less tax on there system than 3G. They are simply making money when they can. It is like all technology the General public is finally getting connected so prices are rising once saturation and competition meet prices will fall or stabilize.
I don't have cable internet at home anymore. 4g is faster and way cheaper, I am still at $24 per month unlimited. I simply turn the hot spot on and feed my home network. Granted Verizon hates me using 60+ gig a month so what.
I might have just been lucky. I walked into a Verizon store a couple of weeks after the GS3 came out to upgrade. I got the 2 year contract price and got to keep my unlimited data plan. He didn't even ask if I wanted to change it. I was so happy, I bought a couple of accessories that I could have got online cheaper. As far as I am aware they still get a commission bonus for that.
I have heard some horror stories of existing customers being forces out of their unlimited plans. Cell phones are one of the few things these days that are usually best bought in corporate stores.
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I might have just been lucky. I walked into a Verizon store a couple of weeks after the GS3 came out to upgrade. I got the 2 year contract price and got to keep my unlimited data plan. He didn't even ask if I wanted to change it. I was so happy, I bought a couple of accessories that I could have got online cheaper. As far as I am aware they still get a commission bonus for that.
I have heard some horror stories of existing customers being forces out of their unlimited plans. Cell phones are one of the few things these days that are usually best bought in corporate stores.
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well yeah we get commission on accessories sold, and salesmen make more on accessories than phones, which is why we push that whole, "buy 3 accessories!" thing
I was lucky too. I upgraded to my S3 back in August through Verizon and was able to keep my unlimited for some reason.
I prefer 4g, but if I was somehow forced to a tiered plan I could manage. I use 4G at home since it's faster than my WiFi, but I would just switch to WiFi at home.
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Hello XDA,
I am currently on the last month of my contract with Sprint, it ends 7/31/2014. I am currently on a family plan with 2 other lines, 3 total and at the end of July want to take my number from Sprint and move to Tmobile. I have never switched providers before and I am not sure what to expect.
Do I need to wait until 7/31 to actually switch without paying ETFs?
Can I activate my Sprint Nexus 5 on TMobile? It was purchased at Best Buy and was Sprint labeled, but it should be fine for Tmobile with their Sim correct?
Would I need to do anything with Sprint or if I waited until 7/31 can I just visit a Tmobile store and they take care of porting my number and essentially telling Sprint to kick rocks?
Circaflex said:
Hello XDA,
I am currently on the last month of my contract with Sprint, it ends 7/31/2014. I am currently on a family plan with 2 other lines, 3 total and at the end of July want to take my number from Sprint and move to Tmobile. I have never switched providers before and I am not sure what to expect.
Do I need to wait until 7/31 to actually switch without paying ETFs?
Can I activate my Sprint Nexus 5 on TMobile? It was purchased at Best Buy and was Sprint labeled, but it should be fine for Tmobile with their Sim correct?
Would I need to do anything with Sprint or if I waited until 7/31 can I just visit a Tmobile store and they take care of porting my number and essentially telling Sprint to kick rocks?
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There was some discussion early on that the sprint nexus 5s were different but I believe that was wrong I can look more into it. If you are going to T-Mobile postpaid then the easiest option would be to go in store. When you port your number they say it can take up to 24 hours to be finalized but in my case was about six hours. Keep your sprint account active until the port is complete or you will lose your number. Once the port is complete sprint may cancel your service or give you a new number so call to make sure it's cancelled.
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Circaflex said:
Hello XDA,
I am currently on the last month of my contract with Sprint, it ends 7/31/2014. I am currently on a family plan with 2 other lines, 3 total and at the end of July want to take my number from Sprint and move to Tmobile. I have never switched providers before and I am not sure what to expect.
Do I need to wait until 7/31 to actually switch without paying ETFs?
Can I activate my Sprint Nexus 5 on TMobile? It was purchased at Best Buy and was Sprint labeled, but it should be fine for Tmobile with their Sim correct?
Would I need to do anything with Sprint or if I waited until 7/31 can I just visit a Tmobile store and they take care of porting my number and essentially telling Sprint to kick rocks?
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1) You do not have to wait to switch.
2) Probably should look at trading in your Sprint N5 to avoid any CDMA (Sprint) and GSM (T-Mo) issues down the road.
3) You don't need to do anything w/ Sprint. Simply head into T-Mo and let them port and handle from there.
2. Shouldn't be any issue if T-Mobile activates it. Sprint has to activate the CDMA radio differently.
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tmobile doesn't have to activate it. just put in tmibiles sim card, boot up. if no signal right away, put in tmobiles apn manually. thats it. most likely youll have a signal right away though.
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1) You do not have to wait to switch.
2) Probably should look at trading in your Sprint N5 to avoid any CDMA (Sprint) and GSM (T-Mo) issues down the road.
3) You don't need to do anything w/ Sprint. Simply head into T-Mo and let them port and handle from there.
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So say I do this next week, i would assume I would pay an ETF with sprint if i dont wait right?
I was under the impression the n5 was the same (has all bands) and it shouldnt have a conflict, especially if i factory reset
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Basically my main concern is if i need to wait until the 31st to do this will i lose my number? or do i do this with tmobile a few days before the 31st?
Thank you all for the replies
Circaflex said:
So say I do this next week, i would assume I would pay an ETF with sprint if i dont wait right?
I was under the impression the n5 was the same (has all bands) and it shouldnt have a conflict, especially if i factory reset
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Thank you all for the replies
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If you do this next week, and your contract isn't up until the end of next month, then they'll cover your ETF (either through reimbursement/credit your t-mo account, not sure how they're handling that these days).
As the other posters mentioned, you SHOULDN'T have any issues if T-Mo activates the phone, but you may want to Google success/fail stories when it comes to taking CDMA-carrier branded phones and activating them on GSM networks.
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If you do this next week, and your contract isn't up until the end of next month, then they'll cover your ETF (either through reimbursement/credit your t-mo account, not sure how they're handling that these days).
As the other posters mentioned, you SHOULDN'T have any issues if T-Mo activates the phone, but you may want to Google success/fail stories when it comes to taking CDMA-carrier branded phones and activating them on GSM networks.
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Yea i read about the etf reimbursement but i believe you have to trade in your current device, which i dont really want to do. My phone isnt branded any different though from what i understand compared to google play store bought n5's
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If you do this next week, and your contract isn't up until the end of next month, then they'll cover your ETF (either through reimbursement/credit your t-mo account, not sure how they're handling that these days).
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This is incorrect. BYOP customers are inelligible for T-Mobile's ETF promotion, it is only for people who buy new phones from T-Mobile and have an old phone to trade in. If he ports his number from Sprint to T-Mobile as much as one second before his contract expires, he'll most definitely be charged an ETF.
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This is incorrect. BYOP customers are inelligible for T-Mobile's ETF promotion, it is only for people who buy new phones from T-Mobile and have an old phone to trade in. If he ports his number from Sprint to T-Mobile as much as one second before his contract expires, he'll most definitely be charged an ETF.
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So what exactly happens on 8/1 do i no longer have sprint or does it go month to month. How do i keep my number? sorry for the noob questions, been with sprint and only sprint. August 1st do I just walk into tmobile and do it from there? I have no problem waiting, its only a few weeks away otherwise i could pull the quick switch a roo and activate my galaxy s 3 and do the BYOP but its too much hassle and i can just wait but i just dont want to lose my number
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Yea i read about the etf reimbursement but i believe you have to trade in your current device, which i dont really want to do. My phone isnt branded any different though from what i understand compared to google play store bought n5's
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You're right, you do have to trade in your phone.
I'd assume that since you're within 30 days of your contract ending w/ Sprint, you're looking @ roughly under $100 in ETFs across your 3 lines (if you're just canceling the one line on the family plan, obviously that's even cheaper). If it makes more sense keeping the phone you have now and paying those fees as opposed to taking advantage of T-Mo's reimbursement and giving up the phone, that may be the better deal for you.
I left VZW in January of this year w/ 8 months left to go, and paid my ETFs up front, picking up a N5 from them rather than letting them trade my HTC One since they valued it so low. Sold the One on Craigslist for 2x what T-Mo wanted and essentially recouped my ETFs and the first two months of my T-Mo bills.
I'd say hang onto what you've got since you don't have high ETFs.
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You're right, you do have to trade in your phone.
I'd assume that since you're within 30 days of your contract ending w/ Sprint, you're looking @ roughly under $100 in ETFs across your 3 lines (if you're just canceling the one line on the family plan, obviously that's even cheaper). If it makes more sense keeping the phone you have now and paying those fees as opposed to taking advantage of T-Mo's reimbursement and giving up the phone, that may be the better deal for you.
I left VZW in January of this year w/ 8 months left to go, and paid my ETFs up front, picking up a N5 from them rather than letting them trade my HTC One since they valued it so low. Sold the One on Craigslist for 2x what T-Mo wanted and essentially recouped my ETFs and the first two months of my T-Mo bills.
I'd say hang onto what you've got since you don't have high ETFs.
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yea it would be a single line off the family plan
So i think i found my answer, all the contract does is limit me from taking my number to another provider without paying an ETF fee. Once it ends it will go month to month unless i sign another two year agreement, 8/1 is my best opportunity to go into TMobile and have them port my number and setup service with them without paying an ETF fee.
I found a chart with the ETF fees, for 1 month of service remaining on "advanced" devices I would have to pay $100 bucks. I think ill wait until 8/1 and kick sprint to the curb.
Thanks to you all for putting up with my nonsense today :good:
Good call. Wait it out and keep your phone. You will never look back once your on T-Mobile!
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So I finally made the switch, did not want to pay the $100 bucks for leaving a month early so my contract with sprint was completed on 7/31 and that same day I went over to tmobile and the process took about 15 minutes, mostly me waiting for sprint 3g to pull up my account details as I forgot to bring my account number with me. about 5 hours later the number was ported over and so far I love it. I get LTE at home where I got no service with sprint, not even 3g. Most of my usual areas where it was slow 3g are now on LTE, LTE spots are actual LTE. Sprint would give me on great signal maybe 10 Mbps, on tmobile i am consistently hitting 40+ and even hitting 50 in most of my areas. Good riddance Sprint, should've ditched you long ago.
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So I finally made the switch, did not want to pay the $100 bucks for leaving a month early so my contract with sprint was completed on 7/31 and that same day I went over to tmobile and the process took about 15 minutes, mostly me waiting for sprint 3g to pull up my account details as I forgot to bring my account number with me. about 5 hours later the number was ported over and so far I love it. I get LTE at home where I got no service with sprint, not even 3g. Most of my usual areas where it was slow 3g are now on LTE, LTE spots are actual LTE. Sprint would give me on great signal maybe 10 Mbps, on tmobile i am consistently hitting 40+ and even hitting 50 in most of my areas. Good riddance Sprint, should've ditched you long ago.
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Were you able to use your sprint nexus 5 on the tmobile network then?
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Were you able to use your sprint nexus 5 on the tmobile network then?
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yea, anybody can. all you need to do is pop in an lte enabked tmobile sim. you dont need to call them and set it up for your device to work, like sprint.
Sim card and new Nexus 5 in the mail in route to mi casa. Missed my N5 so much. Ha. Bye bye Sprint.
Happy to see T-Mobile is working for you. I been using it for years; so far it has never disappointed me.