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Well I contacted the retentions department at AT&T and the lady I spoke to was extremely nice. Basically, the deal is:
- I get $20 for the next three months
- I get to keep my Captivate
- I get to choose any AT&T phone except the iPhone come May 9
- The Atrix will be available to me for $150 in May
Questions:
1. What should I do with my Captivate? I have to use it till May, but should I sell it then? How much would I be able to get? I don't really want to give it to my mom because it has so many problems.
2. How does the Atrix compare to the Captivate? I really want an exact, extensive breakdown.
3. When May comes, will there be a better phone to get than the Atrix?
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I guess another option is the SGS2.

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I guess another option is the SGS2.
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never again.

Yeah, I'll probably run away from samsung, fast.
Good idea?

1. Don't know how much you can get for it. A quick way to check would to be to simply go on ebay and do a search. You can also hang on to it and use it as a backup or a developer phone, if you're into that sort of thing.
2. Are you asking for a breakdown of hardware differences or overall user experience? Hardware differences are that the Atrix has a dual code tegra2 cpu (each core at 1ghz) though I'm pretty sure it isn't being utilized properly with the current firmware, qHD 540x960 LCD panel as the display, 1930mAh battery, 1024mb ddr2 ram, hdmi port, ships with android 2.2.. probably some other stuff I'm leaving out.
Reports regarding user experience vary. Some people like it and say it is very responsive, others say the screen, while very sharp, is dull and doesn't have nearly the color depth of amoled screens, and hate the fact that it ships filled with unremoveable bloatware, sideloading disabled, and general ATT douchebaggery. Just browse around and read some reviews. Engadget had a pretty decent one.
The thing that kills the Atrix for me is that Motorola insists on busting everyone's balls by shipping it with a signed/encrypted bootloader, and signed system files. Quite honestly, I'd prefer my Captivate to the Atrix for this reason alone.
3. The HTC Inspire 4g, Samsung Infuse 4g and Atrix 4g will all be out around May (or at least that's what I've read), if you insist on staying with ATT. Not sure about what will be released on other carriers, but I also hear that the Sony XPeria ARC is a good one to look out for.

If you are always waiting for the next best phone you will always be waiting. Jump ship when you are bored
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At the top of your screen you will see a link for the device DB. Use it to compare the the Atrix to well what ever you want. They are right though if you are always waiting for the next big thing then you will always be waiting. It seems with the speed at which things are progressing there will always be something newer in or around the 3 to 6 month point.

Tennis11 said:
Well I contacted the retentions department at AT&T and the lady I spoke to was extremely nice. Basically, the deal is:
- I get $20 for the next three months
- I get to keep my Captivate
- I get to choose any AT&T phone except the iPhone come May 9
- The Atrix will be available to me for $150 in May
Questions:
1. What should I do with my Captivate? I have to use it till May, but should I sell it then? How much would I be able to get? I don't really want to give it to my mom because it has so many problems.
2. How does the Atrix compare to the Captivate? I really want an exact, extensive breakdown.
3. When May comes, will there be a better phone to get than the Atrix?
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I picked up a Atrix today. I also have a Captivate. The first thing you will notice is the difference in screens. Some people will say one is better than the other, but it is all user perception. Some people like saturated colors(AMOLED) some people don't. It's best to take a look at one in the store. I do not mind the Atrix screen, after a week of use probably won't notice the colors not being saturated anymore.
I think I am impressed the most with the battery. The battery on my Captivate killed me, I was always trickle charging. Even after the first charge on the Atrix the battery runs circles around my Captivate.
For people complaining about the Atrix being sluggish, I haven't noticed it. Stock it pulled a little over 2500 in Quadrant, my Captivate with yesterdays leaked Froyo pulled barley over 1000 at stock. Hopefully this will only improve once 2.4 is released with dual core support. Text is alot clearer for me. The high resolution makes everything smaller so that takes a little getting used to, but its a good thing. Fingerprint scanner is actually nice and works great. HDMI out is pretty sweet to have finally. I thought it was supposed to have a FM radio, but doesn't. GPS works great, it is nice to have a working GPS again. Overall the phone is a beast. The only disappointment I have and it is a big.... the signed bootloader is bogus.
The Samsung Infuse might be out by then, but like alot of others here...."never again"

I'm curious as to how you got ATT to agree to this? Did you have a history of problems? How long are you into your captivate contract?

Captivate to Inspire to Atrix to Inspire... and Im back on the Captivate!

Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.

Lol, As much as people diss the captivate it's hard to find another android phone that can match it.

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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?

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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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I returned the Inspire because of all of those reasons, but the Atrix had even more problems than that.

I had the atrix...it may be better on paper but I'll stick with the captivate

You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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I got my Atrix, and no way am I going back to my Captivate full time... I'll miss the Captivate's screen, but in the end, the Atrix is a superior phone. Just waiting for my unlock code now so I can actually use it on my carrier, but damn, its insanely fast! Still keeping my Captivate for backup purposes and to satisfy my flashing addiction.
One thing I wish manufacturers would include, dual sim slots... Then I wouldn't need 2 separate phones, one for home and one for work... Seems simple enough and wouldn't be very costly to add, considering all the cheap Chinese knockoff phones come with dual and even triple (dual GSM and a single CDMA) sim slots which all work simultaneously.
Other than that and the inferior screen compared to the Captivate, it's pretty hard to complain about the Atrix, I hope the devs get around the bootloader or Motorola finally caves in and decides to let us unlock it if we chose to (like the Xoom), but I won't complain if it doesn't happen... I can get rid of the stock launcher easily and replace it with Launcher Pro Plus, Zeam or ADW, which is really my only complaint about Blur. I'm happy it doesn't include Gingerbread yet, as it's still quite buggy and really doesn't offer much over Froyo anyways... Besides, that leaves at least 1 update that will arrive soonish where Motorola may throw in the bootloader unlock if people complain enough. ... Of course I won't be holding my breath, but it would be nice.
Overall, I'm happy with my purchase, I'll put it through more rigorous testing in the coming weeks after I get my unlock code, I'm sure it'll perform just fine though.

I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...

gandalf21502 said:
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I'd be all over the Galaxy S 2 if it still had a 4" screen (and possibly a higher resolution), but the 4.3" screen is the deal breaker for me. Yes, I realize that the screen's quality is far superior to the Atrix's, but when all things are considered, the Atrix makes up for it in raw specs and awesome accessories...
The Captivate is already huge for a phone (in my opinion), I can't imagine using anything bigger than that. Thickness isn't a big concern for me (I don't see why people are so obsessed with how thin phones are, a mm or 2 really doesn't make a huge difference... But meh, to each his/her own), but the overall height and width is what really bothers me, at 125mm (~5"), it's huge compared to the Atrix's 117mm (~4.5") or even the Captivate's 121mm (~4.7")...
I'm more interested to see how well Samsung's dual core Exynos processor performs than the Tegra 2 on the Galaxy S 2, knowing how snappy the Hummingbird currently is and how long it kept the performance crown, I have no doubts that the Exynos will be able to hold its own against, and possibly even beat the Tegra 2.
And yes, I completely agree, until we see some optimizations in the OS and apps for dual core SOCs, there really won't be a huge difference between single and dual cores in terms of performance... Thankfully, Tegra 2 optimized apps and games are starting to pop up on the Market, so it's only a matter of time. Benchmarks really aren't a good way to measure performance between single and dual cores, they're not very accurate with single cores either (they vary greatly between different kernels, yet real world performance remains the same), so I take synthetic benchmark results with a grain of salt.
Either way, dual cores are still very much in their infancy, it can only get better from here, and if past phones are any indication, we're in for a hell of a year in terms of Android goodness.

Well I have played with an Evo, 4.3 inch screen, and I can handle it pretty nicely in my hands. I can't imagine much bigger though for a phone myself.
Phones and basically netbooks now. Not quite up to the power a laptop, but soon that will change. I do like the docks for the Atrix, but do not really want to pay $500 for it. I can get a good laptop for the price now. I want portable power in a small package.
I would say that the tegra will have a slight advantage only on the fact that there will be more software optimized to run on it most likely. Nvida is a big company imop that leads the pc gpu market.
Certainly going to be a GREAT YEAR for 'smartphones'...(almost think the name needs to change soon...

I have the captivate and nexus one right now, had the Atrix when it came out but took it back.
now I only use the Captivare to either play games or as a backup if the Nexus 1 dies on me.

Played with an atrix. Couldn't find a justification to buy it. Not very impressive. Liked the inspire more, but still not enough to give up the captivate
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Krad said:
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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it blows so much you have to spend time in our forum instead of the streaks...oh wait there isn't much to see in the streak forum is there

ekerbuddyeker said:
Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
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No wonder there are so many "refurbs" out there...
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i was going to get the Atrix because of the lapdock but i read its not very functional as for the trackpad and a bit too pricey. still happy with my cappy, good thing we have developers busy making our captivate better everyday, since at&t is too busy with the iphone

For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.

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For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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Mikey, that was almost complimentary. You must be in a good mood for a change.

there are so many of these threads and soo many people have things they like about the captivate over there other phone. i messed with the atrix and like the webtop view but wish it did more than run firefox and web apps. it would be great if the phone view could be opened in multiple windows having all the active apps open at the same time if you wish but i guess you cant get everything. also a full text editor would be cool. i know it has office apps but a more desktop worthy app would be awesome in the webtop. but hearing that the inspire and atrix have lesser call quality makes me shy away from the atrix. the call quality is one of the best things about the captivate. plus the atrix does look a bit cheap with the back cover though i am gealous of the fingerprint reader and hdmi port.
now i want to put ubuntu on my phone so i can out do the atrix in the "hey my phone is a computer" catagory. my graphics benchmarks are already better. now we just need to find someone who can write a driver to get hdmi out from the usb port... hmmm i need to get my brother to stop playing wow, quit his night job and dev for android..

My friend bought and HD7, and as I played with it, the same charm the captivate had when I first saw it was pretty much non-existant. The Captivate is anything but perfect, but it is also anything but terrible. Oh, and it looks really bad ass too

G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II?

Before I ask, I know there have been many threads about this topic, but my question is a little more specific than the rest. I get to upgrade my phone sometime in the next few weeks and one of these will be my first android phone. As a young artist, I am mostly looking for a phone which will take quality photos for good reference and preferably one which has video auto focus. I'm also a heavy internet user (about 5 hours a day on iPod Touch) but coming from iOS, I long for flash player. I also like to game a lot so the dual core cpu performance has to be somewhat decent with good speeds (better than my 4th gen touch at least lol). Lastly I'm a big media person with music a videos so I'm looking for a quality screen, support for multiple media formats (specifically mkv), decent speakers, and if possible, support for in-line headphones with volume, FF and RR (optional to come in the box, but if there are alternative working ones, please post below as I haven't found a solution with android devices and working in-line headphones). I've played around with my cousins EVO a lot so I've grown a liking to HTC Sense but I would also like to try out stock android sometime. And after a lot of time reading reviews and comments, I've taken a liking to the Galaxy S II's screen but I'm not a fan of TouchWiz. As previously stated, coming from an iOS user, I'm hoping one of these phones can either match or have greater quality with the screen in terms of brightness and contrast (not so much with resolution but mostly with colors, hue, and saturation). I'm hoping this narrows down the margin between these 3 phones.
P.S. I'm also hoping for one of these to have great dev support since I love to customize and test new tweaks.
EDITED - Also as an additional post, can you explain the batter life of the 3 as best as you can (even considering not having much info about the sensation)

I would say the G2X after LG fixes the Bleeding screen, restarts, and battery life issue. Both the GS2 and Sensatoin both have skins over android to which I've never been a fan of. 1st GS2 Engaget did a review and called it the best smart phone on the planet (the week before g2x was lol) but its made of plastic and its really thin so if the unthinkable happens and you drop the phone changes are its going to get jacked up and touchwiz. 2. Sensation Ive never been a fan of sense its a power hungry beast that needs to be removed. Just look at the battery life of the thunderbolt its really bad.
I had the G2X for a week and I loved it, its solid like my Nexus One it feels like a phone. I dropped it twice once on my tile floor and there were no marks and once on my naked foot to which brought me great pain. (lol) The G2X will have CM7 the galaxy s phones don't have CM support so why do you think that GS2 will? I plan on getting anothe G2x I'm just waiting until the 2nd line of them.

It honestly sounds like the Galaxy S II is just right for you. I know you say you dont like touchwiz (believe me I hate it) but the TW 4.0 or whatever its called looks really nice. From what I have seen it looks better than sense ui. Anyways, there have been battles between the G2X and the Galaxy S II and hardware wise the GSII always has the upper hand with camera, performance, screen, colors, etc.. However there are many things to consider. Do we even know what US carrier (if any) will receive the GSII? Also coming from the vibrant I swore up and down I wouild never buy a samsung phone again. Their lack of software support was just unacceptable. Im not even talking upgrades, just basic bug fixes. Development for this phone NEVER gave us a fully functioning stock android or AOSP ROM. Sure CM7 made a lot of headway and may still come to the galaxy s with all the fixes but right now it still has bugs and some things just dont work.
To make a long story short, I got the G2X because I wanted a stock android experience with a lot of developer backing (specifically cyanogenmod) and the specs of the phone are pretty amazing. Now it sounds to me like media and camera are more important to you so you may feel more welcome by the Galaxy S II if you dont care about aftermarket roms and such.

get 2x
coming from a vibrant, i can say that screen on the g2x is actually better and it being a stock android updates come faster and custom roms will also. I can't wait for the cyanogen mod either. I had battery issues but after resetting my phone the battery works just fine. they all have similar processors but the g2x being stock will get you better performance. I am a photographer also and am creating a photo journal with the g2x and it does the job well. good luck

i say go for SGS2, it works quite good out of the box and it has a great screen and you will absolutely appreciate the larger screen. Though im not really a fan of touchwiz.
I have g2x and going to return it today for SGS2.

There is no doubt in my mind that the dev support will be there for the sgs2 but it will be greater on the g2x just b/c of all the vanillaness.
The weight of the galaxy line is extremely light but believe me when I say that it is extremely durable. My old cliq felt like a brick but the second time I dropped that it stopped working completely so weight and feel have nothing to do with durability.
My vibrant has pretty much been through the equivalent of back to back fights with Manny Pacquiao and Anderson Silva only to come out as the new peoples champ. If you can wait, I would say try to see what all 3 of them are like and whether or not they come to your carrier. Its what I'm gonna do b/c I would hate to be stuck in another 2 year contract and not have the phone that I'm gonna own for atleast half of that time.

I have the same question, but new phones will probably come out because my next upgrade is in September. I really hate big phones and it seems phones are getting bigger and bigger. I really like the nexus s design (A lot!) And I like stock android, so I think I might wait until the nexus s2 comes out. Hopefully it stays a bit close to the design of the nexus s.

Sense isn't that power hungry the reason why the thunderbolt sucks on battery life is because of the lte network. A custom sense rom usually has no data drops. Like the aosp roms do.
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Sense isn't that power hungry the reason why the thunderbolt sucks on battery life is because of the lte network. A custom sense rom usually has no data drops. Like the aosp roms do.
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Each one of my friends who had a sense phone who switched to a custom rom w/o sense batter life increased alot.

jrharvey said:
It honestly sounds like the Galaxy S II is just right for you. I know you say you dont like touchwiz (believe me I hate it) but the TW 4.0 or whatever its called looks really nice. From what I have seen it looks better than sense ui. Anyways, there have been battles between the G2X and the Galaxy S II and hardware wise the GSII always has the upper hand with camera, performance, screen, colors, etc.. However there are many things to consider. Do we even know what US carrier (if any) will receive the GSII? Also coming from the vibrant I swore up and down I wouild never buy a samsung phone again. Their lack of software support was just unacceptable. Im not even talking upgrades, just basic bug fixes. Development for this phone NEVER gave us a fully functioning stock android or AOSP ROM. Sure CM7 made a lot of headway and may still come to the galaxy s with all the fixes but right now it still has bugs and some things just dont work.
To make a long story short, I got the G2X because I wanted a stock android experience with a lot of developer backing (specifically cyanogenmod) and the specs of the phone are pretty amazing. Now it sounds to me like media and camera are more important to you so you may feel more welcome by the Galaxy S II if you dont care about aftermarket roms and such.
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Thanks for your input. Also as a CFW PSP user and a Jailbroken iOS user, I like to have a combination of both dev support and media features, so I wouldn't want to leave that out. I'm surprised that only one person gave consideration to the sensation when I stated how it was the only UI I've ever used so far on android, and I read how it had an HRD camera with auto focus video so I thought most would assume that as the better choice, but my only problem with it is how its rumored to not have an unlocked bootloader. I think atm I will go with the g2x but I hope to hear about some alternatives to getting inline music controls to work.

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coming from a vibrant, i can say that screen on the g2x is actually better and it being a stock android updates come faster and custom roms will also. I can't wait for the cyanogen mod either. I had battery issues but after resetting my phone the battery works just fine. they all have similar processors but the g2x being stock will get you better performance. I am a photographer also and am creating a photo journal with the g2x and it does the job well. good luck
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Thank you very much! when I saw still photos on the G2X compared to the S II, I thought it looked inferior, but being able to make a photo journal out of it seems to counter that argument. BTW is it possible for the camera to get an update for auto focus video recording like the Galaxy S Vibrant did? For camera usage, that is the only thing pushing me back from the G2X as well as the support for multiple video formats (which I hear the Galaxy S II will have based on the Exynos processor). Hope to receive some additional feedback.

If you go bluetooth you can get inline music control. I personally have and like the plantronics backbeats and the sweatproof motorola S-10 HDs. The backbeats are more flexible and easier to wear, while the S-10s are must haves for working out and sports.
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If you go bluetooth you can get inline music control. I personally have and like the plantronics backbeats and the sweatproof motorola S-10 HDs. The backbeats are more flexible and easier to wear, while the S-10s are must haves for working out and sports.
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i hear a lot of mixed things about bluetooth headphones. even though the sound quality is great and the music controls work, I cannot always depend on headphones which need charging. Having to charge one device already is enough so i am more suited for wired inline in ear headphones.

jree said:
There is no doubt in my mind that the dev support will be there for the sgs2 but it will be greater on the g2x just b/c of all the vanillaness.
The weight of the galaxy line is extremely light but believe me when I say that it is extremely durable. My old cliq felt like a brick but the second time I dropped that it stopped working completely so weight and feel have nothing to do with durability.
My vibrant has pretty much been through the equivalent of back to back fights with Manny Pacquiao and Anderson Silva only to come out as the new peoples champ. If you can wait, I would say try to see what all 3 of them are like and whether or not they come to your carrier. Its what I'm gonna do b/c I would hate to be stuck in another 2 year contract and not have the phone that I'm gonna own for atleast half of that time.
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Well not voting for the SGS2 here but I don't think Vanilla has any bearings on Dev Support, directly. Granted, I prefer vanilla and thus may contribute to its popularity, which, indirectly, popularity = dev support.
The only thing that matters is that the bootloader is unlocked and it is easily rootable and flashable. I mean once you get a CM rom on there, they all work the same.
I think Vanilla roms are more open to other variants like MIUI and the likes because they typically share the same partition structure. I know the G2x has a different structure and I think it is safe to say the SGS2 does too. Good thing that we are able to format and change the partitions to work across multiple roms.
The SGS2 was recently rooted and I think they found the bootloader to be unlocked. So it should be able to be flashed pretty easily.
One big factor that more people don't think about is the screen size. I have small hands (vs huge sausages) and the 4" screen of the G2x pushes my comfort zone. I think 4.3" would be too much and I would be fumbling it while trying to do one handed operations.
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
Nothing like buying a new toy and finding that it doesn't work with the latest HD games.
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that is the only thing pushing me back from the G2X as well as the support for multiple video formats (which I hear the Galaxy S II will have based on the Exynos processor). Hope to receive some additional feedback.
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As far as multiple video formats, I don't think this has much to do with physical hardware as it does software. While I am most certainly not an expert, I have played a range of videos on my phones. Wouldn't all you need is a Video app that has the correct codecs and support for such file types?
I mean, really, not picking one device over another based on media format is just insane to me and defies all logic. I mean how easy is it to convert between formats, come on. I'd say that if you using a less common format or one that isn't widely available, you are only asking for trouble anyway. Most of the video I find online are either MP4 or avi and have no problem playing them on my device. If you are ripping it yourself, just save it in a format you can use.

This is a very good player, plays many formats
http://market.android.com/details?id=net.thefluxstudio.implayer

Player911:
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
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I'm quite surprised that the SGS2 folks have a buyers remorse, especially after reading your post. I was having remorse with the G2x since it just has 512MB ram and the GS2 kicks the G2x to the curb on every bullet point except Value for money/cost (I'm buying off contract). I'm also very surprised when you implicitly state that Orion cannot run Tegra games even though it's way faster than tegra.

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I'm quite surprised that the SGS2 folks have a buyers remorse, especially after reading your post. I was having remorse with the G2x since it just has 512MB ram and the GS2 kicks the G2x to the curb on every bullet point except Value for money/cost (I'm buying off contract). I'm also very surprised when you implicitly state that Orion cannot run Tegra games even though it's way faster than tegra.
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Dont just look at numbers (1ghz dual core vs 1.2 dual core) RAM numbers, etc.
It has been said the 1ghz Tegra 2 is a better processor overall, and you really dont need more than 512mb of RAM since Android closes apps on its own when memory gets low. You wont see much if any performance increase from merely more RAM.
Lets not forget Samsung's recent past with its Galaxy S line having broken GPS, wonky file systems that slowed down phones, and bootloaders locked.
I wouldnt just yet say the SGS2 is a better device because how it looks on paper.

>It has been said the 1ghz Tegra 2 is a better processor overall, and you really dont need more than 512mb of RAM since Android closes apps on its own when memory gets low. You wont see much if any performance increase from merely more RAM.
I'm not sure about that. Both use dual Cortex A9s. The difference in hardware between the two is the GPU. We all know Tegra 2 uses GeForce ULP but I'm not sure what the Exynos uses(SGX or Adreno).
I concede my point to your statement about the RAM, since I only recently learnt about memory management in Android (this is my first Android). I'm pretty sure Sammy must have fixed the GPS issues, since if they don't I'd lose all respect for them.
Oh OP, one thing you might want to consider is that the Galaxy S2 does not have an HDMI out port. They say it's got some USB-HDMI cable though.
Also, it depends on your hands. The G2x itself is a pretty big device in my opinion, and seeing that the SGS2 has a 4.3" screen it's going to be much bigger.

Definitely sgs2
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Well not voting for the SGS2 here but I don't think Vanilla has any bearings on Dev Support, directly. Granted, I prefer vanilla and thus may contribute to its popularity, which, indirectly, popularity = dev support.
The only thing that matters is that the bootloader is unlocked and it is easily rootable and flashable. I mean once you get a CM rom on there, they all work the same.
I think Vanilla roms are more open to other variants like MIUI and the likes because they typically share the same partition structure. I know the G2x has a different structure and I think it is safe to say the SGS2 does too. Good thing that we are able to format and change the partitions to work across multiple roms.
The SGS2 was recently rooted and I think they found the bootloader to be unlocked. So it should be able to be flashed pretty easily.
One big factor that more people don't think about is the screen size. I have small hands (vs huge sausages) and the 4" screen of the G2x pushes my comfort zone. I think 4.3" would be too much and I would be fumbling it while trying to do one handed operations.
Having bought a G2x from a N1... I can say I'm extremely happy. I've been reading the SGS2 forums trying to stir up some internal buyers remorse... but I can honestly say that I would still pick my G2x over the SGS2 again. To me Tegra>Orion justifies AMOLED>LCD. I think NVidia will really push some developers to create some great games and I don't want to be stuck on the sidelines wishing I could get in on the action. Unable to play some of the newer "HD" (Only for Tegra) games are really making some of the SGS2 owners unhappy.
Nothing like buying a new toy and finding that it doesn't work with the latest HD games.
As far as multiple video formats, I don't think this has much to do with physical hardware as it does software. While I am most certainly not an expert, I have played a range of videos on my phones. Wouldn't all you need is a Video app that has the correct codecs and support for such file types?
I mean, really, not picking one device over another based on media format is just insane to me and defies all logic. I mean how easy is it to convert between formats, come on. I'd say that if you using a less common format or one that isn't widely available, you are only asking for trouble anyway. Most of the video I find online are either MP4 or avi and have no problem playing them on my device. If you are ripping it yourself, just save it in a format you can use.
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Coming from iOS, I am tired of having to convert all of my videos to mp4 format and having little knowledge of android from not having owned one just increases my curiosity on the matter since the SGSII specs list stated that the Exynos processor has more support for video formats than tegra 2. Being able to directly download and play any format is one thing I am looking for in one of these phones so that is why I asked the question. Some of the videos I download are dual audio and subbed mkv's and having to download multiple programs to get the subtitles and audio working on a mobile device is very time consuming so having support for multiple codecs would make things a whole lot easier.

My one complaint about this phone

Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
Before I go any further, let me just state that I absolutely LOVE my Infuse. I've never really trusted Samsung, seeing as how i've sold AT&T phones for the past 6 years and saw the horror stories and countless returns starting with the SGH-A707 (sync), the Blackjack, etc. But they have won me over with the Infuse. So far, i've not encountered any serious issues, except for on that I consider major/minor. Read on.
I bought the Infuse outright on launch day after having the Inspire since launch, I do have on thing that perplexes me about the Infuse (read my mini-comparison)
Screen:
- Infuse, hands down. Bigger, brighter, and overall just more enjoyable. Also the gorilla glass has been extremely more fingerprint/scuff resistant so far.
Battery life:
- Again, Infuse kills the Inspire. On my Inspire I would have to turn off all background data, and make sure I kept GPS/WiFi off to make it through the majority of the day, usually dying out at around 6:00pm if i took it off charger at 8:00am. With the Infuse, I can take it off the charger at 8:00am and still have ~40% left at 12:30am the next day even with leaving GPS/WiFi on (I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
Audio quality:
- Infuse wins again. My Infuse is LOUD. I can actually show a friend a Youtube video without having to just put the speaker to his ear so he can hear it. Calls come in loud and crisp as well, I haven't used speakerphone yet, but I would assume it would be the same.
Build quality:
- Inspire. I'm sure everyone has read the same thing, how the Infuse feels kind of cheap. It's not horrible, but for at $500+ device I would expect a little more. It's not a dealbreaker by any means, and I don't think that if I drop it it would break, but I definitely bought the Ballistic SG case to make it feel a little bit more.. Substantial. The metal body on the Inspire oozed class and quality, in comparison.
Camera:
- Infuse, especially indoors. I will give the Inspire this: If you're outdoors with absolutely perfect lighting, the Inspire takes some of the best pictures from a phone I have ever seen, including the iPhone 4 (which I still think has the best still/video quality on any phone available from any carrier in the US). But the second it becomes cloudy/overcast the Inspire's quality drops from about an 8.5 to a 6, and that's being generous. Go indoors with the Inspire? Fagettabouit. The Infuse takes amazingly crisp pictures outside, regardless of whether or not it's Sunny/Cloudy/Overcast, but even my pictures indoors come out usable. Big ups to Samsung on that. Not many phones are able to do that!
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not. That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence (Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
I know it seems like I disliked my Inspire, but in all actuality it was one of the best smartphones that I've ever had, the Infuse is just that much better, IMO. It's truly an amazing phone.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?

HTC devices are more media centric meaning they will always play nice with media/flash.
as for your flash problem, im guessing you will have to wait liek you said to get rid of touchwiz.

Not calling you a moron or anything, but did you do the Flash 10.3 update? Also, in my dolphin HD browser, I check the option to keep flash running always, as opposed to "on demand." Try that if you haven't. I noticed the lag left as soon as I changed that option.

These types of threads (about browser performance) appear for every phone with a Hummingbird processor. For whatever reason, the Android browser just doesn't perform that well on Hummingbird processors. Samsung has made a lot of modifications to the browser to alieviate this problem (with checkerboarding being a side effect), but it's still not quite where it should be for a 1.2GHz processor. Many suggest trying Opera Mobile. Unlike Dolphin, Miren, etc., it uses a completely different engine that is said to perform much better on Hummingbird processors.

My infuse is quite a lot slower than my Thunderbolt unfortunately
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timmillah said:
Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
Before I go any further, let me just state that I absolutely LOVE my Infuse. I've never really trusted Samsung, seeing as how i've sold AT&T phones for the past 6 years and saw the horror stories and countless returns starting with the SGH-A707 (sync), the Blackjack, etc. But they have won me over with the Infuse. So far, i've not encountered any serious issues, except for on that I consider major/minor. Read on.
I bought the Infuse outright on launch day after having the Inspire since launch, I do have on thing that perplexes me about the Infuse (read my mini-comparison)
Screen:
- Infuse, hands down. Bigger, brighter, and overall just more enjoyable. Also the gorilla glass has been extremely more fingerprint/scuff resistant so far.
Battery life:
- Again, Infuse kills the Inspire. On my Inspire I would have to turn off all background data, and make sure I kept GPS/WiFi off to make it through the majority of the day, usually dying out at around 6:00pm if i took it off charger at 8:00am. With the Infuse, I can take it off the charger at 8:00am and still have ~40% left at 12:30am the next day even with leaving GPS/WiFi on (I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
Audio quality:
- Infuse wins again. My Infuse is LOUD. I can actually show a friend a Youtube video without having to just put the speaker to his ear so he can hear it. Calls come in loud and crisp as well, I haven't used speakerphone yet, but I would assume it would be the same.
Build quality:
- Inspire. I'm sure everyone has read the same thing, how the Infuse feels kind of cheap. It's not horrible, but for at $500+ device I would expect a little more. It's not a dealbreaker by any means, and I don't think that if I drop it it would break, but I definitely bought the Ballistic SG case to make it feel a little bit more.. Substantial. The metal body on the Inspire oozed class and quality, in comparison.
Camera:
- Infuse, especially indoors. I will give the Inspire this: If you're outdoors with absolutely perfect lighting, the Inspire takes some of the best pictures from a phone I have ever seen, including the iPhone 4 (which I still think has the best still/video quality on any phone available from any carrier in the US). But the second it becomes cloudy/overcast the Inspire's quality drops from about an 8.5 to a 6, and that's being generous. Go indoors with the Inspire? Fagettabouit. The Infuse takes amazingly crisp pictures outside, regardless of whether or not it's Sunny/Cloudy/Overcast, but even my pictures indoors come out usable. Big ups to Samsung on that. Not many phones are able to do that!
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not. That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence (Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
I know it seems like I disliked my Inspire, but in all actuality it was one of the best smartphones that I've ever had, the Infuse is just that much better, IMO. It's truly an amazing phone.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
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I'm not having any flash issues. streetfire.net videos play perfect and in sync, my local news channels play great flash as well. just as well as my inspire. just way better picture lol

timmillah said:
Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
(I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
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Where do they sell phones til 12:30AM? Not trolling, just curious.
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not.
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Not Snapdragon. Hummingbird. The same one that's in the Captivate, with the clock uprated to 1.2.
That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence
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The "Touchwiz Influence"? You're overestimating the impact of the launcher on web browsing experience quite a bit.
(Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
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Huh? 'Vanilla android' never even really hit the Captivate because it's damn difficult to do with many device drivers etc. being closed source proprietary. You might be waiting a long time.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
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I'm not sure if the Infuse is still using the goofy stock RFS filesystem that all the other AT&T Android Samsung phones have used, but I expect it is. If and when custom kernels come out it might be able to be improved with converting the file system to ext4. The 'lag' complaint is common to pretty much 100% of Samsung's Android devices, at least with the stock software.

Yes the Infuse is using Samsung's stupid rfs system. And yes it sucks.....yes there is some lag....
But....
Once this phone starts getting around with ext4, I expect it to kick the crap out of any other non dual-core phone it there easily....
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G

SSJ_Gomike said:
Yes the Infuse is using Samsung's stupid rfs system. And yes it sucks.....yes there is some lag....
But....
Once this phone starts getting around with ext4, I expect it to kick the crap out of any other non dual-core phone it there easily....
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G
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Meh. I think you might be hoping for a bit much. Plenty of Captivate owners who cared to have already been overclocking the same processor to 1.4 for many months now. Once you realize that and you start to realize that other than the slightly larger, modestly improved display and just slightly larger battery the Infuse is basically analogous to the Captivate...
The Infuse isn't a game-changing device by any stretch of the imagination. It's the iPhone4-killer that the AT&T execs wished they'd had to hold against Apple's throat when they were talking about going to Verizon, only delivered at least 6 months too late by the combined Samsung/AT&T dev processes. Relative to the SGS2 varaint expected to be announced in weeks the Infuse is going to go down as a strange, momentary afterthought.

Try Opera. its really good.
Just let me state this really quick.
its a phone. not a computer. browser experience will not be as smooth as in your computer, hey if it gets you online, and lets you do what you need to do, you should be pretty much set.

Rrryan2 said:
Huh? 'Vanilla android' never even really hit the Captivate because it's damn difficult to do with many device drivers etc. being closed source proprietary. You might be waiting a long time.
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Nah...this thing uses so much Captivated hardware and device drivers, I won't be surprised if i am able to work with atinm/codeworkx/techmik and get Cm7 running in a few months.
There is a distinct advantage in you all buying this giant captivate hardware .
The main thing is perfecting that Odin package so it works with 100% of bricked phones. Then its time to go to town
Thanks,
-h8
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I agree with OP that Infuse lags sometimes. Hence bought myself SGS II & this thing literally flies! I am glad that I have made the right decision, Infuse is going back to at&t.

Rrryan2 said:
Meh. I think you might be hoping for a bit much. Plenty of Captivate owners who cared to have already been overclocking the same processor to 1.4 for many months now. Once you realize that and you start to realize that other than the slightly larger, modestly improved display and just slightly larger battery the Infuse is basically analogous to the Captivate...
The Infuse isn't a game-changing device by any stretch of the imagination. It's the iPhone4-killer that the AT&T execs wished they'd had to hold against Apple's throat when they were talking about going to Verizon, only delivered at least 6 months too late by the combined Samsung/AT&T dev processes. Relative to the SGS2 varaint expected to be announced in weeks the Infuse is going to go down as a strange, momentary afterthought.
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I have a Captivate as well and I run it with Paragon's 1.2ghz kernel on Mikeymikes Serendipity rom...
I've had a lot of different phones...and I always kept going back to my captivate a my main phone.....
My cappy was the greatest phone I've ever had hands down.....
Yes the Infuse it's basically a bigger captivate.....but with all the things I always wished my captivate had....
Front facing camera
Super fast out of the box
Huge amoled plus screen
Much lighter and thinner
Better camera with flash
4G freaking speeds
HDMI out
And a battery that really lasts through the whole day.....and then some
The perfect phone.....hands down...
Only thing better out there is the SGS 2
I can settle with second best for now....
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G

use opera browse for now, later with gingerbread you will love the hummingbird.
about build quality i do feel that the infuse is too light for it's size but if you look inside an htc vs a samsung sgs i have to say im not impressed with the htc internals. weight isnt everything but i agree the infuse could be more rugged like the captivate was.

[Q] S2 Vs Infuse - Real World Difference?

Hi
Just was wondering if there is a real, noticeable difference between the Infuse with its single-core and the Galaxy S-II with its Dual-core.
By "Real World", i mean for those of us who don't game on their phones
Thanks

Engadget just did a great piece on whether dual core is needed for a particular user. If you're a casual user (music browser phone text pics) then a single core phone is fine. Considering the infuse has the same shooter as the s2 and a bigger screen and gb soon, I think it's a better value but depending on the s2 pricing when it's stateside.
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yes! huge different! i mean the screen!
galaxy s2 with 4.27" looks like 4 inches!
i also have sony x10 with 4" inches, huge screen different on infuse 4.5"

The Infuse isn't in the same galaxy as the SGS II.
No matter how you slice it.

I had a dual core phone and I don't see a need for it until ice cream. I'm not a gamer I use my phone for web, email, text, music and Netflix. All of which run flawlessly on my Infuse. I can't see myself going smaller than a 4.5" screen again. The only thing I miss from my G2x is the HDMI mirroring. Granted the development base for the S2 is mind boggling, its not enough to persuade me to switch.
Sent from my Infuse. It is what it isn't.

Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
Sent from my Apex Blue JVR Samsung Captivate.

topiratiko said:
Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
Sent from my Apex Blue JVR Samsung Captivate.
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just
screen is super amoled PLUS.
camera 8mp+flash
SIZE DOES MATTER

topiratiko said:
Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
Sent from my Apex Blue JVR Samsung Captivate.
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It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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which really means what if they are both running googles laggy buggy fractured os and samsungs bad drivers?
yes the gs2 is a remarkable piece of hardware but im not super thrilled about anything right now. maybe i'll get a nexus or an hd2 and put meego on it. forget new hardware and gaming/hd playback. there was nothing wrong with the old hardware, the problems are in the software.
apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.

Dani897 said:
apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
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He heard that and he knows where you sleep!!!

With a little development we can get it to a 6. If be plenty happy with that.
MikeyMike01 said:
It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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evostevo1 said:
With a little development we can get it to a 6. If be plenty happy with that.
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True.
In two weeks I shed my 40 hour a week job for no more than 20 hours a week of school. Then the fun can begin. Hopefully just in time for official GB.

The S2 against any phone currently is a big difference
...but I do like my big screen.
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Looking forward to that! I believe this phone has a reasonable amount of potential even if it is an over clocked captivate. Lol.
MikeyMike01 said:
True.
In two weeks I shed my 40 hour a week job for no more than 20 hours a week of school. Then the fun can begin. Hopefully just in time for official GB.
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Dani897 said:
apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
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iOS 5 makes it hard to hate on the iPhone anymore.
If Apple would open up just a little, tiny, bit... add Flash, and some other minor things, they could wipe out Android.
One thing is certain, the Nexus Prime better be a home run, or Android/Google is in trouble.

From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
Quick Compare:
Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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Is SGSII has the same screen resolution as Infuse?

Nexus Prime or gtfo
Sent from my Infuse. It is what it isn't.

Infiniti350GT said:
From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
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Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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agree as sg s2 is easily available in my country(India).
The screen size & quality of infuse is killer.
Really Kudos to Gtg that he has given Gingerbread to us.
I have observed no lag with this device.
I feel no need for S2
Is SGSII has the same screen resolution as Infuse?
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YES

Infiniti350GT said:
From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
Quick Compare:
Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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After my few hours with Both the US SGS2 and the infuse side by side I can't disagree more...and that is saying much. Previously I honestly thought the differences would be minimal
web Pages and apps just simply load faster, the screen definitely looks better, more vivid and less "breakage" (i guess response is the work I am looking for there)
It seemed much more capable of multitasking in comparison to the infuse. It didn't bog down and lag like my infuse does.
Gps locked immediately..battery life was unchanged during my testing (however this could be misleading..I noticed the stock rom on the infuse drops in 15% increments)
I almost say, yeah, I will be picking one up and rotating our phones down to the kids...but I want to know more about what HTC has planned for release in the coming months...and am curious to know more about the prime that we keep hearing about....though from everything I have been told...Verizon will be getting that one first.
Keep in mind that I will never...and I mean NEVER pay more than $200 for a phone haha.. I purchase every phone we buy on contract for the contract price. So I could definitely say that I would never pay $700 for a phone.