Hi
Just was wondering if there is a real, noticeable difference between the Infuse with its single-core and the Galaxy S-II with its Dual-core.
By "Real World", i mean for those of us who don't game on their phones
Thanks
Engadget just did a great piece on whether dual core is needed for a particular user. If you're a casual user (music browser phone text pics) then a single core phone is fine. Considering the infuse has the same shooter as the s2 and a bigger screen and gb soon, I think it's a better value but depending on the s2 pricing when it's stateside.
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yes! huge different! i mean the screen!
galaxy s2 with 4.27" looks like 4 inches!
i also have sony x10 with 4" inches, huge screen different on infuse 4.5"
The Infuse isn't in the same galaxy as the SGS II.
No matter how you slice it.
I had a dual core phone and I don't see a need for it until ice cream. I'm not a gamer I use my phone for web, email, text, music and Netflix. All of which run flawlessly on my Infuse. I can't see myself going smaller than a 4.5" screen again. The only thing I miss from my G2x is the HDMI mirroring. Granted the development base for the S2 is mind boggling, its not enough to persuade me to switch.
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Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
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Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
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screen is super amoled PLUS.
camera 8mp+flash
SIZE DOES MATTER
topiratiko said:
Isnt the infuse just a captivate oc'ed to 1.2 and a bigger screen?
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It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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which really means what if they are both running googles laggy buggy fractured os and samsungs bad drivers?
yes the gs2 is a remarkable piece of hardware but im not super thrilled about anything right now. maybe i'll get a nexus or an hd2 and put meego on it. forget new hardware and gaming/hd playback. there was nothing wrong with the old hardware, the problems are in the software.
apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
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apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
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He heard that and he knows where you sleep!!!
With a little development we can get it to a 6. If be plenty happy with that.
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It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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With a little development we can get it to a 6. If be plenty happy with that.
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True.
In two weeks I shed my 40 hour a week job for no more than 20 hours a week of school. Then the fun can begin. Hopefully just in time for official GB.
The S2 against any phone currently is a big difference
...but I do like my big screen.
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Looking forward to that! I believe this phone has a reasonable amount of potential even if it is an over clocked captivate. Lol.
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True.
In two weeks I shed my 40 hour a week job for no more than 20 hours a week of school. Then the fun can begin. Hopefully just in time for official GB.
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apple with ios5 would look attractive if steve jobs wasn't the devil.
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iOS 5 makes it hard to hate on the iPhone anymore.
If Apple would open up just a little, tiny, bit... add Flash, and some other minor things, they could wipe out Android.
One thing is certain, the Nexus Prime better be a home run, or Android/Google is in trouble.
From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
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Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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It's an OC Captivate with a bigger screen, slightly better camera/ffc, more RAM and slightly better battery life. Can't forget pretend-4G either.
If Captivate is 1/10, and SGS II is 10/10, then Infuse is at best a 4/10.
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Is SGSII has the same screen resolution as Infuse?
Nexus Prime or gtfo
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From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
Quick Compare:
Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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agree as sg s2 is easily available in my country(India).
The screen size & quality of infuse is killer.
Really Kudos to Gtg that he has given Gingerbread to us.
I have observed no lag with this device.
I feel no need for S2
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Infiniti350GT said:
From my experience so far (I have both currently) I really enjoy both phones, but they are completely different. The 4.27 seems like a mile when the 4.5 Infuse is held next to it and since I do photography it's hard for me to put the Infuse down. I get MUCH better service in my area (middle of nowhere) drop fewer calls, people hear me better and I hear them better than the SGSII. I need to really push that because its important to me my Infuse doesn't just get slightly better service I can't convey enough how much better it is. In an area that At&t people do not have service (my captivate had none, my sgsII has none, other phones have none) the Infuse has 1 maybe even 2 bars it may not be 3G but enough to make a pleasantly clear call.
The SGSII is fast when I open up 5 or 6 tabs on dolphin browser with flash involved, switch over to Youtube and watch a video, pull my email and check one or two, shoot someone a text then switch back over to the browser.....but I get this busy on my phone maybe once a month. I then quickly realize what I'm doing is about to require a computer OR that a computer would just make things easier any way at that point.
Quick Compare:
Infuse has no issues that stand out to me, camera, speed (faster than my modded captivate when I ran Infused 2.0) screen quality colors a little washed I think because of resolution of a larger screen but difference was really negligible, microphone quality, speaker quality (phone and external) very smooth, Touchwiz 3 is boring: Touchwiz 4 would be amazing on a larger screen like the Infuse.
SGSII - Screen at 4.27 seems a mile away from 4.5 - Through daily regular "normal" use I notice NO difference between a dual core and a bump in RAM. Simple use of browser, email, phone, text etc. I see no speed advantage. I do not feel the OS or apps have been fully optimized to take full advantage of both cores. An extra 512mb and you may notice a difference in daily use but otherwise the rest would again be negligible. My microphone suffers from the clarity issue as others, NOT one single person understands a word out of my mouth on the S2 and I have tried every single fix. Because of this I have almost thrown this phone just like my captivate I stop only because I have much more invested and I intend to get my money back. I am quite frankly upset with the overall product. Part of my reason for picking it up was the development and how much it has already got designed for it, but when I have done everything possible to fix it with no luck its a hardware issue and I am not the only one that has suffered this. I do have a pink spot on the camera, this can only be seen on a white wall in the correct light, since I don't photograph white walls in medium light....this doesn't concern me. For the slightly yellow left side of the screen...I have that to - I never noticed it until I read about it. The microphone kills me and highly annoys anyone else on the phone. Search for the other posts on this if you want, but I assure you I will never spend almost $700 on another Samsung phone again that's for certain. I will be keeping my Infuse and enjoying its massive screen with great call quality and reception. Slower or not it's basic phone functionality is still intact for a price that is less than half as much as the SGSII.
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After my few hours with Both the US SGS2 and the infuse side by side I can't disagree more...and that is saying much. Previously I honestly thought the differences would be minimal
web Pages and apps just simply load faster, the screen definitely looks better, more vivid and less "breakage" (i guess response is the work I am looking for there)
It seemed much more capable of multitasking in comparison to the infuse. It didn't bog down and lag like my infuse does.
Gps locked immediately..battery life was unchanged during my testing (however this could be misleading..I noticed the stock rom on the infuse drops in 15% increments)
I almost say, yeah, I will be picking one up and rotating our phones down to the kids...but I want to know more about what HTC has planned for release in the coming months...and am curious to know more about the prime that we keep hearing about....though from everything I have been told...Verizon will be getting that one first.
Keep in mind that I will never...and I mean NEVER pay more than $200 for a phone haha.. I purchase every phone we buy on contract for the contract price. So I could definitely say that I would never pay $700 for a phone.
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So when I bought my Vibrant, I knew this phone was coming soon. I got the Vibrant anyway because of all it was promising to be. (And because I have absolutely no patience whatsoever.)
Well, that Vibrant, other than the beautiful screen, is NOT all it promised. Yes, I can flash ROMs and blah blah blah, but I have no idea what I'm doing in that area, so it's probably not too smart to try in my case. Besides, shouldn't a phone just work? I understand that they will all have issues, but this Vibrant is chock full of 'em!
Anyhoo...just curious to know the opinions of current MT4G owners. Do you find that the "issues", if any, are worth overlooking? The Vibrant has so many. At first, I had no problem saying "eh, it's a new phone, they'll work it out". I'm realizing over time that not only have they not worked it out, but it's just getting worse over time.
What issues are you having with the vibrant? I only really had a borked GPS. The screen was great, but text was a little fuzzy, which is unfortunately what I do most on a phone. That said, the mt4g just fits and feels better in my hand, vibrant was too awkward and slippery. I still have both, will decide which one to keep... but the Vibrant running on TeamWhiskey's Onyx ROM was super fast. The mt4g felt 'laggy' to me out of the box compared to it and my modded nexus one. I guess we just have to wait for some good roms.
Edit: by laggy i mean the time between swiping your finger, and actually observing the screen start to move. the phone is fast opening apps and what not, so i'm not talking about that kind of lag. I guess I mean the 'responsiveness' in the UI is a bit slower than what I'm used to and I'm convinced it's the bloatware and mySense that HTC has loaded it up with...hoping for a vanilla android ROM to flash =)
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... "eh, it's a new phone, they'll work it out"
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That's the beauty of buying an HTC product - they actually do work out issues.
This phone though, right out of the box it does everything I wanted it to and does it WELL.
I had a Vibrant, got rid of it for a Nexus One (which was a great phone - but this one was better!) - I was tired of the GPS issues and the lack of support, and then what little support they did give had galacticly POOR QA on it.
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Edit: by laggy i mean the time between swiping your finger, and actually observing the screen start to move. the phone is fast opening apps and what not, so i'm not talking about that kind of lag. I guess I mean the 'responsiveness' in the UI is a bit slower than what I'm used to and I'm convinced it's the bloatware and mySense that HTC has loaded it up with...hoping for a vanilla android ROM to flash =)
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Although added software on the phone can't help with the overall speed of the phone, I really doubt the minimal bloatware has any effect on the speed of the UI as you put it. The effect of the bloatware on a stock ROM like this with all its underlying processes shouldn't amount to much at all, as evidenced by how fast apps can open and the general speed of the I/O. I think rather, the ever so slight lag in the UI may be more of a hardware and/or driver issue, as that component does not vary at all. Whether you have just rebooted the phone, deleted system app (bloatware if you will), or at any other time, that screen response and movement never varies. I have just "frozen" every system app I could get away with, and quite frankly, I see no difference in overall speed of the phone. It just flies.
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Although added software on the phone can't help with the overall speed of the phone, I really doubt the minimal bloatware has any effect on the speed of the UI as you put it. The effect of the bloatware on a stock ROM like this with all its underlying processes shouldn't amount to much at all, as evidenced by how fast apps can open and the general speed of the I/O. I think rather, the ever so slight lag in the UI may be more of a hardware and/or driver issue, as that component does not vary at all. Whether you have just rebooted the phone, deleted system app (bloatware if you will), or at any other time, that screen response and movement never varies. I have just "frozen" every system app I could get away with, and quite frankly, I see no difference in overall speed of the phone. It just flies.
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This is what I thought as well. But the thing is, the length of the 'lag' in response to my touch actually differs between applications. When I use launcher pro's launcher, it's very quick, but if I'm in say, the settings of the browser menu, or some of the other "mySense themed" things, it's a lot slower to respond I find. Maybe it's just me, but I'm kind of anal about speed. Still, I'll reserve judgement until I can get a vanilla ROM on and get rid of this mySense thing. I agree, the phone is really snappy, it's just that some apps are a bit slower to pickup my touch input than others.
Thanks for your replies
I may just get the MT4G outright and try it out for a few days. See which I like better, then either return the MT or sell the Vibrant. I'm so wishy washy with phones...maybe wishy washy isn't the word so much as fickle.
hospo said:
Thanks for your replies
I may just get the MT4G outright and try it out for a few days. See which I like better, then either return the MT or sell the Vibrant. I'm so wishy washy with phones...maybe wishy washy isn't the word so much as fickle.
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I had a rootes vibrant for 3 weeks and I liked it alot! The vibrant was fast, the screen was great and I was happy with it. I decided to trade it in for the MT4G and never looked back. Trust me when I say this...the Vibrant got nothing on this MT4G. I change phones alot and I think I finally found a phone that satisfies me
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I had a rootes vibrant for 3 weeks and I liked it alot! The vibrant was fast, the screen was great and I was happy with it. I decided to trade it in for the MT4G and never looked back. Trust me when I say this...the Vibrant got nothing on this MT4G. I change phones alot and I think I finally found a phone that satisfies me
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Oooh, I do like hearing that!
Lakeshow423 said:
I had a rootes vibrant for 3 weeks and I liked it alot! The vibrant was fast, the screen was great and I was happy with it. I decided to trade it in for the MT4G and never looked back. Trust me when I say this...the Vibrant got nothing on this MT4G. I change phones alot and I think I finally found a phone that satisfies me
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I don't know if the vibrant has NOTHING on the mt4g... I'm fairly sure the external speaker was far superior to the MT4G's in terms of quality (bass production) as well as volume. The sound production through headphones was also superior... it seems HTC phones are plagued with mediocre audio quality. That, and the arguably better screen (colors popped more, but text is fuzzier on amoled/samoled screens). But ya, the MT4G's LED flash, working GPS, better feel (objective), more ram, snapdragon (lets face it, samsung doesn't seem to give a **** about optimizing the JIT for hummingbird right now), makes it a winner.
I made the Switch to the MT4G the Laggy-ness of the vibrant + horrible Battery Life and the cluster F%^k that is the froyo updating made me pull the trigger the MT4G is wicked fast the text is easier to read than the vibrant and the MT4G doesn't feel cheap like the vibrant, and the crappy GPS on the vibrant was also a killer, Maybe with the nexus 2 sammy will do better. See ya sammy
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I don't know if the vibrant has NOTHING on the mt4g... I'm fairly sure the external speaker was far superior to the MT4G's in terms of quality (bass production) as well as volume. The sound production through headphones was also superior... it seems HTC phones are plagued with mediocre audio quality. That, and the arguably better screen (colors popped more, but text is fuzzier on amoled/samoled screens). But ya, the MT4G's LED flash, working GPS, better feel (objective), more ram, snapdragon (lets face it, samsung doesn't seem to give a **** about optimizing the JIT for hummingbird right now), makes it a winner.
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As far as audio quality through headphones, the Vibrant uses a DSP chip which enhances sound quality. To me, it was the best sounding phone i've ever heard but I hardly ever listen to music from my phone.
I sold my vibrant for the MT4G and i'm happy I did. It has many more features, is much quicker, has perfect GPS and MUCH better battery life.
Vibrant>G2>MT4G
And I'm 100% happy. Im just wishing I would of gotten red.... Lol
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Ok, pretty sure you've all convinced me...I need to make the switch!
If you can bear one more +1, I too had the Vibrant for a month, and had a laundry list of wishes for it. The screen was beautiful, but I don't miss it a tad. The MT4g just has everything I wished for on the Vibrant, plus little extras that I love as I discover them. This is my keeper phone.
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If you can bear one more +1, I too had the Vibrant for a month, and had a laundry list of wishes for it. The screen was beautiful, but I don't miss it a tad. The MT4g just has everything I wished for on the Vibrant, plus little extras that I love as I discover them. This is my keeper phone.
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Thank you! More and more I'm realizing that I should definitely ditch the Vibrant. While the screen is absolutely beautiful, I think that seems to be the only thing (as far as my needs go) that the Vibrant has over the MT. I'm sure in the development world there are many, many other things that the Vibrant has over it, but in my little novice world, I think the MT is more for me.
I'm sorry I'm not trying to bash on any vibrant owners but I held a vibrant and it felt like a piece of plastic on my hands with a beautiful display that's all. When I got the mt4g from the moment I felt it in my hands u can tell the quality of this phone has with a nice weight to it. The size imo is the perfect size for my hands and I'm coming from an hd2 4.3inch feels too bulky especially when ur out with ur friends at a party and ur trying to get ur phone out to take pics lol trust me I been there. The mt4g not only feels perfect on ur hands but performs flawlessly with no lag no hangs this baby is meant for all kinds of multitasking u can throw at it overall this phone is a beast!
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I'm not trying to bash the phone either. I truly wanted to love it. I tried to love it. I even have days that I DO love it. Sadly, they are getting farther and fewer between. I need a phone that's going to perform the way I need it to now, not whenever they feel like getting around to it. It's really too bad, because I think the Vibrant has such huge potential.
I have both the Vibrant and the myTouch 4G. I'm currently using the myTouch and I have to say that I am missing my Vibrant. I do like the led light, the flash, the trackpad, front camera, and wifi calling though. What I don't like about the myTouch is that the buttons feel cheap, the screen isn't as great as the SGS, and the speakers sound bad. The Vibrant screen is a lot better because of the super AMOLED. The only downside about the screen is that it drains a lot of battery. I like the Vibrant's interface more and the 16GB internal memory. The GPU on the Vibrant is a great plus and the camera is pretty good. I think froyo is what my Vibrant needs, then I would pick it for sure. I don't have that many things installed on my myTouch yet, but stock applications keep force closing, I don't know if anyone else has that problem. I love how fast the myTouch restarts though, the SGS is kind of slow to start up...
i have both phones and from using the mt4g the past two weeks, i'm really torn between the two. but it's good to have to seperate lines for work and home
at any rate, i have found that the vibrant, with root and the right mods/hacks outshines the mt4g in performance. quadrant scores which surpass 3000 are some what proof of that. however, i don't put linpack nor quadrant scores too much on a pedestal because both were designed mainly for testing snapdragon devices.
the vibrant is an incredible device for gaming and video playback. i have tested 3d games and emulators which use tons of memory. my myt4g lags and on almost every psx or snesoidrom that i have using psx or snes emulators v. the vibrant. gameloft games such as sandstorm don't seem to run as smooth either. graphical display on these games look much much better on the vibrant.
out of the box though, the mt4g is plenty fast as i don't really see myself needing to flash custom roms immediately. the gps works flawlessly, no need for lagfixes like the vibrant. even with the custom espresso skin, the myt4g is super fast. on top of that, i seem to get better signal 3 signals vs. the vibrant.
and that's my short review of both phones. right now, i use the myt4g primarily for work as it has exceptional battery life and durability over the vibrant.
i use the vibrant as my personal phone because it's an incredible gaming and media playback device. now, i just need to wait for that new galaxy 2 to come out..
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I have both the Vibrant and the myTouch 4G. I'm currently using the myTouch and I have to say that I am missing my Vibrant. I do like the led light, the flash, the trackpad, front camera, and wifi calling though. What I don't like about the myTouch is that the buttons feel cheap, the screen isn't as great as the SGS, and the speakers sound bad. The Vibrant screen is a lot better because of the super AMOLED. The only downside about the screen is that it drains a lot of battery. I like the Vibrant's interface more and the 16GB internal memory. The GPU on the Vibrant is a great plus and the camera is pretty good. I think froyo is what my Vibrant needs, then I would pick it for sure. I don't have that many things installed on my myTouch yet, but stock applications keep force closing, I don't know if anyone else has that problem. I love how fast the myTouch restarts though, the SGS is kind of slow to start up...
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I dont know what ur talking about the buttons feel solid imo unless ur phone came with faulty buttons and in terms of force closing I only had the market close on me once
Was out today and thought I'd stop by and check out the infuse...
I spent about 5 minutes goin over it...
The screen looks awesome....
Touchwiz looks cheap...
GPS could not lock on my location..but the Atrix and the Inspire on display had no trouble at all..
I may be a little jealous if the display and battery size of the infuse...otherwise I'm stickin with the inspire...
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good there really isn't a plus from other galaxy s phones. Sure there's a better camera, bigger screen, ffc, and a better screen but what's hardware without software?
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
I feel just like that whenever I look at my wife’s Galaxy Captivate’s bright screen, until I try to navigate that damn Touchwiz. Grass will always be greener on the other side when it comes to technical toys. But with all the things I can do with my Inspire 4G, I can do without the faster CPU, front facing camera, and the extra .2 inches of high def screen until next Inspire (something comparable to) comes out.
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
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if we sell enough of them, samsung gives us goodies, we win points that we can redeem for electronics and such...
so you're damn right its the best phone we have at AT&T right now..
(i still use my inspire and i think its way better than both infuse and atrix, much more solid built etc)
but yea.. when the next phone comes out that gives us salesmen something good in return, guess what.. it's gonna be the best phone you can buy for your money!! i guarantee it!! *wink*
The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
I played with one too. Reminded me of my captivate just bigger. kinda cool, but eh. I still prefer my Inspire!
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The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
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I love sense, and when I had my captivated, everything about it was HTC. notification bar, battery meter, signal meter, app icons, etc. I wasn't phone obsessed as far as updates until I got into Android. So that may change for them.
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Samsung's hardware is tempting, but I'll never forget the garbage I (we) went through with the Captivate. Dying earpiece and external speakers (both happened to me on different handsets), sleep death, no GPS, the OTA update that bricked stock phones...all of this and more, and the phone hasn't even been out for a year.
Not only that, but Samsung insulted us by releasing a GPS "fix" app in the market that "restored the GPS to factory settings"...you know, the ones that didn't work in the first place?
I'm not a fanboy and won't spend my money buying products from a company that is all to happy to ass-rape me for giving them business. Apple has the luxury for rabid fanboyism, so no matter what they do, people will still buy their products. Samsung doesn't have that, they just think they do for some reason.
The good side of the Infuse is his unlocked bootloader.
My wife has a Inspire and I have a captivate, I have to say the captivate is really easier to unlock. But I agree with most of you about the captivate, a stock captivate is really not perfect, but I'm running my cappy with Contiuuum 5.4.1 (Android 2.3.3) and I can say bye bye to all the problems, my gps is a dream and my battery time is amazing.
I have a SE Xperia X10 and I'm in the market for a new phone, so I went to my local AT&T store for the Sunday release of the Infuse. I played with it, and with the Inspire, for about an hour.
I came away from the experience thinking my next phone will be an HTC...now if I can only hold out for the upcoming "Holiday." hee hee. Here's why-
1. I have owned Samsungs before, including a brief stint with the Captivate, and I'm unimpressed with the company as far as updates and support.
2. The HTC aluminum unibody case just says "build quality" to me. The infuse felt just like the Captivate in the hand - like flimsy, cheap plastic that should not be used for high-end phones. I know some people want light weight, but come on - few extra grams won't kill ya and it just might save your phone if you're a little rough with it.
3. The Infuse's screen was way too color over-saturated for me. It's bright and clear, but looks surreal to me. I would tire of that in hurry.
4. I could detect no speed or smoothness advantage for the Infuse. Heck, I could load up a custom rom on the Inspire, overclock it conservatively and just beat the snot out of the Infuse... which leads me to....
5. There seems to be a whole lot more developer time and interest in the HTC devices, which means loads more fun for me.
I have both phones with me right now and here are my quick observations between the two phones (Inspire running current version of LeeDroid 2.3.3):
Web browsing: Inspire – Seems to load pages faster and better scrolling.
Camera: Infuse – For some reason the pictures from my Inspire produce a redish look and are too soft, almost out of focus.
Build quality: Inspire – HTC = solid. I don’t notice much difference when carrying them in my pocket as the Infuse is lighter.
Screen: Infuse - However the Inspire is not bad. I could live with both. After looking at the Infuse I do notice a little bit of softness to the Inspire’s text.
Call quality/Handset speaker: Infuse – I have always had an issue with the call quality of HTC devices for my taste. I have to say that the Infuse has one of the best sounding speakers. I would rate it on par with the iPhone 4 or better.
GPS: Infuse – I get a lock in about 10 seconds. Inspire takes about 1 minute with current ROM/Radio.
Battery life: Infuse – But not by much (10 to 15% better).
Speedtests: Infuse – Speed tests seam consistently higher using Speedtest.net (between 4-5 download and 1.5-2 upload).
Battery charging: Inspire – for some reason the Infuse (and most Samsung phones) take forever to fully charge.
Reception: Still need a few more days with the phone but did have an issue with it the very first call. Called AT&T to make a change to my account and dropped the call five times. The lady at AT&T apologized and said that her land line has been dropping a lot of calls lately (WTF?!?!). I should have a conclusion within the next few days.
I’m not going to get into Touchwiz vs. Sense as there are several write-ups on this but based upon the above, I’m leaning towards the Infuse. Call quality is fantastic on my side as well as the other side. I travel a lot so being in airports and cars this is very important for me. The other item is camera quality. Images may be a little oversaturated by they look sharp and I’m no longer to grabbing my wife’s iPhone 4 to take pictures or videos.
Hope this helps anyone looking at both of these devices and let me know if you have any questions.
I may have to reconsider. I spent another day playing with the phones at the ATT shop. I loaded up speedtest on the Inspire, Attrix and Infuse and ran it on each phone about five times. The Infuse consistently beat the others on download and upload. It was close with the Attrix, but the Inspire got its clock cleaned every time.
The screen on the Infuse started to grow on me when I got out of the start screen and its surreal, over the top background and icon colors. When you look at web pages, movies and snapped pictures, it looks amazingly good. The blacks are so very black, even way off axis.
I also played around with the cameras and I have to say that the Infuse is outstanding. Very fast focus and snap and consistently better looking shots...well, could have been the better screen making them appear to be better.
With all the apps coming out now that utilize video chat with the front camera, I don't know if I could go another year or so without one and of course the Infuse has a nice one.
The only down side I had with the Infuse was the build quality. Now that I think about it, it was really the "feel" and the super light weight. Then it dawned on me...duh!...I'm going to put a case on it, so that can be easily corrected.
So now the only thing that I have left to quibble about is the lack of notification lights on the Infuse.....and yet, something tells me that there will be an app or fix that converts some of those other front lights to message notifications. And then of course there's the relative lack of developer input on Samsung devices.
Ok, so do you think I am talking myself into the Infuse?....maybe, just maybe.
Lmao u diss the infuse then come back and suddenly its way better? Little lost in denial
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
Yes indeed. This inspire has fallen off the back of the car and bounced and slid a goodways before realizing that on this narrow road here in mesquite. I picked it up after backtracking and had dust on the screen that's it. And even had it.upstairs and my nephew dropped the phone 1.5 stories and not one crack nor scratch. Btw had a platinum series casing on the whole time.
NO INSPIRES WERE HURT THRU THESE HORRID TIMES
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
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If I wanted a Captivate, I would buy a Captivate. The Infuse is just a stupid phone in my opinion. It's not bad, I'm sure, but it doesn't make sense to buy one with the Holiday and Ma Bell's version of the Galaxy S II right around the corner.
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Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
Before I go any further, let me just state that I absolutely LOVE my Infuse. I've never really trusted Samsung, seeing as how i've sold AT&T phones for the past 6 years and saw the horror stories and countless returns starting with the SGH-A707 (sync), the Blackjack, etc. But they have won me over with the Infuse. So far, i've not encountered any serious issues, except for on that I consider major/minor. Read on.
I bought the Infuse outright on launch day after having the Inspire since launch, I do have on thing that perplexes me about the Infuse (read my mini-comparison)
Screen:
- Infuse, hands down. Bigger, brighter, and overall just more enjoyable. Also the gorilla glass has been extremely more fingerprint/scuff resistant so far.
Battery life:
- Again, Infuse kills the Inspire. On my Inspire I would have to turn off all background data, and make sure I kept GPS/WiFi off to make it through the majority of the day, usually dying out at around 6:00pm if i took it off charger at 8:00am. With the Infuse, I can take it off the charger at 8:00am and still have ~40% left at 12:30am the next day even with leaving GPS/WiFi on (I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
Audio quality:
- Infuse wins again. My Infuse is LOUD. I can actually show a friend a Youtube video without having to just put the speaker to his ear so he can hear it. Calls come in loud and crisp as well, I haven't used speakerphone yet, but I would assume it would be the same.
Build quality:
- Inspire. I'm sure everyone has read the same thing, how the Infuse feels kind of cheap. It's not horrible, but for at $500+ device I would expect a little more. It's not a dealbreaker by any means, and I don't think that if I drop it it would break, but I definitely bought the Ballistic SG case to make it feel a little bit more.. Substantial. The metal body on the Inspire oozed class and quality, in comparison.
Camera:
- Infuse, especially indoors. I will give the Inspire this: If you're outdoors with absolutely perfect lighting, the Inspire takes some of the best pictures from a phone I have ever seen, including the iPhone 4 (which I still think has the best still/video quality on any phone available from any carrier in the US). But the second it becomes cloudy/overcast the Inspire's quality drops from about an 8.5 to a 6, and that's being generous. Go indoors with the Inspire? Fagettabouit. The Infuse takes amazingly crisp pictures outside, regardless of whether or not it's Sunny/Cloudy/Overcast, but even my pictures indoors come out usable. Big ups to Samsung on that. Not many phones are able to do that!
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not. That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence (Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
I know it seems like I disliked my Inspire, but in all actuality it was one of the best smartphones that I've ever had, the Infuse is just that much better, IMO. It's truly an amazing phone.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
HTC devices are more media centric meaning they will always play nice with media/flash.
as for your flash problem, im guessing you will have to wait liek you said to get rid of touchwiz.
Not calling you a moron or anything, but did you do the Flash 10.3 update? Also, in my dolphin HD browser, I check the option to keep flash running always, as opposed to "on demand." Try that if you haven't. I noticed the lag left as soon as I changed that option.
These types of threads (about browser performance) appear for every phone with a Hummingbird processor. For whatever reason, the Android browser just doesn't perform that well on Hummingbird processors. Samsung has made a lot of modifications to the browser to alieviate this problem (with checkerboarding being a side effect), but it's still not quite where it should be for a 1.2GHz processor. Many suggest trying Opera Mobile. Unlike Dolphin, Miren, etc., it uses a completely different engine that is said to perform much better on Hummingbird processors.
My infuse is quite a lot slower than my Thunderbolt unfortunately
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timmillah said:
Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
Before I go any further, let me just state that I absolutely LOVE my Infuse. I've never really trusted Samsung, seeing as how i've sold AT&T phones for the past 6 years and saw the horror stories and countless returns starting with the SGH-A707 (sync), the Blackjack, etc. But they have won me over with the Infuse. So far, i've not encountered any serious issues, except for on that I consider major/minor. Read on.
I bought the Infuse outright on launch day after having the Inspire since launch, I do have on thing that perplexes me about the Infuse (read my mini-comparison)
Screen:
- Infuse, hands down. Bigger, brighter, and overall just more enjoyable. Also the gorilla glass has been extremely more fingerprint/scuff resistant so far.
Battery life:
- Again, Infuse kills the Inspire. On my Inspire I would have to turn off all background data, and make sure I kept GPS/WiFi off to make it through the majority of the day, usually dying out at around 6:00pm if i took it off charger at 8:00am. With the Infuse, I can take it off the charger at 8:00am and still have ~40% left at 12:30am the next day even with leaving GPS/WiFi on (I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
Audio quality:
- Infuse wins again. My Infuse is LOUD. I can actually show a friend a Youtube video without having to just put the speaker to his ear so he can hear it. Calls come in loud and crisp as well, I haven't used speakerphone yet, but I would assume it would be the same.
Build quality:
- Inspire. I'm sure everyone has read the same thing, how the Infuse feels kind of cheap. It's not horrible, but for at $500+ device I would expect a little more. It's not a dealbreaker by any means, and I don't think that if I drop it it would break, but I definitely bought the Ballistic SG case to make it feel a little bit more.. Substantial. The metal body on the Inspire oozed class and quality, in comparison.
Camera:
- Infuse, especially indoors. I will give the Inspire this: If you're outdoors with absolutely perfect lighting, the Inspire takes some of the best pictures from a phone I have ever seen, including the iPhone 4 (which I still think has the best still/video quality on any phone available from any carrier in the US). But the second it becomes cloudy/overcast the Inspire's quality drops from about an 8.5 to a 6, and that's being generous. Go indoors with the Inspire? Fagettabouit. The Infuse takes amazingly crisp pictures outside, regardless of whether or not it's Sunny/Cloudy/Overcast, but even my pictures indoors come out usable. Big ups to Samsung on that. Not many phones are able to do that!
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not. That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence (Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
I know it seems like I disliked my Inspire, but in all actuality it was one of the best smartphones that I've ever had, the Infuse is just that much better, IMO. It's truly an amazing phone.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
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I'm not having any flash issues. streetfire.net videos play perfect and in sync, my local news channels play great flash as well. just as well as my inspire. just way better picture lol
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Hey all, long time lurker, rare poster.
(I work 4-12:30 shift, and my desk doesn't have an outlet nearby, so this is crucial).
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Where do they sell phones til 12:30AM? Not trolling, just curious.
Speed:
- Unfortunately, this is where my "one complaint" about the Infuse is. My Inspire was quick. Blazingly fast, if you may, despite only utilizing a 1GHz processor. Even though the Infuse should theoretically be even faster with it's 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, it's not.
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Not Snapdragon. Hummingbird. The same one that's in the Captivate, with the clock uprated to 1.2.
That's not to say that it's "slow" or anything, in fact, when browsing through menus/switching between applications I rarely see any lag at all. Where it's really noticeable to me, is in the web browser. Flash videos that played flawlessly on my Inspire have a good bit of stutter/frame skipping on the Infuse, sometimes pages don't correctly format for 10+ seconds, even if it's a text only page. I even have less apps running/installed on my Infuse than I did on my Inspire. I've tried using alternate browsers to no avail. I know there was a guy trolling with this, comparing the Infuse to a Tegra 2 device (which is like comparing a Versa to a Mustang), but I'm not talking in comparison to a Tegra 2, I'm talking a current-gen 1.2GHz processor vs. a current-gen 1GHz processor. Yes, games like Let's Golf! 2, Asphalt 6, and Madden 11 ran a little smoother on my Inspire.
Now, with that being said:
- Is this a deal breaker? Of course not. I bought my Infuse wanting better battery life, better camera performance, better(bigger) screen, and better overall usability. The Infuse hits the mark on all of these aspects. The web browsing is a little worrisome as I used it to watch TV shows while on break at work, and it's not nearly as enjoyable as it was, but I'm going to assume that problem can be alleviated once custom roms start hitting and I can remove the touchwiz influence
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The "Touchwiz Influence"? You're overestimating the impact of the launcher on web browsing experience quite a bit.
(Touchwiz doesn't bother me, but I'm sure bogs down the processor a little bit, so I'll remove it as soon as possible to install vanilla android, and maximize my phones potential).
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Huh? 'Vanilla android' never even really hit the Captivate because it's damn difficult to do with many device drivers etc. being closed source proprietary. You might be waiting a long time.
Does anyone have any advice on how to speed up my flash player/web browsing performance?
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I'm not sure if the Infuse is still using the goofy stock RFS filesystem that all the other AT&T Android Samsung phones have used, but I expect it is. If and when custom kernels come out it might be able to be improved with converting the file system to ext4. The 'lag' complaint is common to pretty much 100% of Samsung's Android devices, at least with the stock software.
Yes the Infuse is using Samsung's stupid rfs system. And yes it sucks.....yes there is some lag....
But....
Once this phone starts getting around with ext4, I expect it to kick the crap out of any other non dual-core phone it there easily....
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SSJ_Gomike said:
Yes the Infuse is using Samsung's stupid rfs system. And yes it sucks.....yes there is some lag....
But....
Once this phone starts getting around with ext4, I expect it to kick the crap out of any other non dual-core phone it there easily....
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Meh. I think you might be hoping for a bit much. Plenty of Captivate owners who cared to have already been overclocking the same processor to 1.4 for many months now. Once you realize that and you start to realize that other than the slightly larger, modestly improved display and just slightly larger battery the Infuse is basically analogous to the Captivate...
The Infuse isn't a game-changing device by any stretch of the imagination. It's the iPhone4-killer that the AT&T execs wished they'd had to hold against Apple's throat when they were talking about going to Verizon, only delivered at least 6 months too late by the combined Samsung/AT&T dev processes. Relative to the SGS2 varaint expected to be announced in weeks the Infuse is going to go down as a strange, momentary afterthought.
Try Opera. its really good.
Just let me state this really quick.
its a phone. not a computer. browser experience will not be as smooth as in your computer, hey if it gets you online, and lets you do what you need to do, you should be pretty much set.
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Huh? 'Vanilla android' never even really hit the Captivate because it's damn difficult to do with many device drivers etc. being closed source proprietary. You might be waiting a long time.
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Nah...this thing uses so much Captivated hardware and device drivers, I won't be surprised if i am able to work with atinm/codeworkx/techmik and get Cm7 running in a few months.
There is a distinct advantage in you all buying this giant captivate hardware .
The main thing is perfecting that Odin package so it works with 100% of bricked phones. Then its time to go to town
Thanks,
-h8
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I agree with OP that Infuse lags sometimes. Hence bought myself SGS II & this thing literally flies! I am glad that I have made the right decision, Infuse is going back to at&t.
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Meh. I think you might be hoping for a bit much. Plenty of Captivate owners who cared to have already been overclocking the same processor to 1.4 for many months now. Once you realize that and you start to realize that other than the slightly larger, modestly improved display and just slightly larger battery the Infuse is basically analogous to the Captivate...
The Infuse isn't a game-changing device by any stretch of the imagination. It's the iPhone4-killer that the AT&T execs wished they'd had to hold against Apple's throat when they were talking about going to Verizon, only delivered at least 6 months too late by the combined Samsung/AT&T dev processes. Relative to the SGS2 varaint expected to be announced in weeks the Infuse is going to go down as a strange, momentary afterthought.
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I have a Captivate as well and I run it with Paragon's 1.2ghz kernel on Mikeymikes Serendipity rom...
I've had a lot of different phones...and I always kept going back to my captivate a my main phone.....
My cappy was the greatest phone I've ever had hands down.....
Yes the Infuse it's basically a bigger captivate.....but with all the things I always wished my captivate had....
Front facing camera
Super fast out of the box
Huge amoled plus screen
Much lighter and thinner
Better camera with flash
4G freaking speeds
HDMI out
And a battery that really lasts through the whole day.....and then some
The perfect phone.....hands down...
Only thing better out there is the SGS 2
I can settle with second best for now....
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use opera browse for now, later with gingerbread you will love the hummingbird.
about build quality i do feel that the infuse is too light for it's size but if you look inside an htc vs a samsung sgs i have to say im not impressed with the htc internals. weight isnt everything but i agree the infuse could be more rugged like the captivate was.
I'm a frequent phone hopper, so I've avoided Verizon and AT&T lately because of high ETF's.
I've recently had
Old school Droid when it first came out
Samsung Vibrant
MyTouch 4g now
I hated the vibrant, it was slow, laggy, and the GPS was a ****ing piece of ****.
I love my Mytouch 4g, running sense 3.0, but the screen's too small, I have big hands.
I can't find a store with an infuse to play around with.....is it laggy at all? does it have the same problems the Galaxy S line had?
can you see yourself happy with the phone for 2 years since AT&T has such a massive ETF?
My other option is switching to Sprint, getting the Evo3D, then when LTE goes live around the holidays here, switching to Verizon
The Infuse is a great phone stock.
The screen is awesome for video.
Not laggy like gs.
But I do get some force closes with certain apps. Plume is problematic.
If I were in your shoes I would wait for the sprint phone coming soon. Basically a gs2 in an Infuse body with the awesome 4.5"screen.
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I just switched over from the captivate. My thinking was I wanted to sell my cappy while it still had some value before everyone dumped it for SGS2 and if i was gonna trade some battery life for better features I would rather have a bigger screen than dual core or NFC anyway even if the knock on this phone is that it's last year's tech.
Only had it a few days but for me it's noticeably less laggy than my captivate (both on custom roms), the screen is gorgeous and the gps works great unlike the cappy. I'm v happy so far with it...I did sell my soul and my a$$ to ATT for another 2 years to get upgrade pricing and that is such a long time...but I think 2 years without dual core and NFC won't be that big a deal and you won't see many apps taking advantage of those features before then anyway.
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I just switched over from the captivate. My thinking was I wanted to sell my cappy while it still had some value before everyone dumped it for SGS2 and if i was gonna trade some battery life for better features I would rather have a bigger screen than dual core or NFC anyway even if the knock on this phone is that it's last year's tech.
Only had it a few days but for me it's noticeably less laggy than my captivate (both on custom roms), the screen is gorgeous and the gps works great unlike the cappy. I'm v happy so far with it...I did sell my soul and my a$$ to ATT for another 2 years to get upgrade pricing and that is such a long time...but I think 2 years without dual core and NFC won't be that big a deal and you won't see many apps taking advantage of those features before then anyway.
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I agree with you and I had the same thoughts when choosing to upgrade to Infuse from Captivate. The only issue is that I do not get hspa+ 4G speeds. I am actually slower than 3G captivate speeds.
It's definitely faster than the Galaxy S phones stock and the GPS works better as well (though I've still seen better). It can get a bit laggy if you run stock for a while, but not to the extent of the Galaxy S line, and if you install a custom ROM with Voodoo lagfix it will of course be cleared right up. That said, may want to wait for the Galaxy S II variants unless you really have to have the 4.5 inch screen. The SGS2 will be better in every other way and has absolutely no lag even if you run it completely stock.
This is the first phone I've bought with no buyers remorse. The size screen and performance really won me over. My last day to return is this Monday. Instead of prepping the phone for a return I bought 2 docks GPS dock and a casemate barely there. /committed.
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The Infuse is a great phone stock.
The screen is awesome for video.
Not laggy like gs.
But I do get some force closes with certain apps. Plume is problematic.
If I were in your shoes I would wait for the sprint phone coming soon. Basically a gs2 in an Infuse body with the awesome 4.5"screen.
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Plume isn't problematic. I use it all the time with zero issues on my Infuse.
Switched from a iPhone 4 to this a week ago. Got to say that I am impressed with the phone so far. The screen is really quite gorgeous and is one of the best mobile devices I have used for internet.
A couple of things to note:
-Even though quadrant scores are not all that accurate in terms of actual speed, I got 1000-1200 average on stock and 1600-1800 on average with the Infused Custom ROM. With that said, it is a very fast device and can handle apps, games, and the internet with speed. Widgets do slow down the stock ROM, but Launcher Pro fixes that real easy.
-Battery does fairly well. On stock, I was getting a average of 15 hours on a quarter brightness with a fair amount of use. On the custom ROM, it seems to be doing much better and seems to have increased the battery life a good 5 hours+ or so. On standby, it does fairly well as long as it isn't checking for notifications constantly.
-I live in a somewhat big town in Tennessee, and my HSPA+ speeds are averaging about 1.50Mbps -3.0Mbps download, which is on par with my iPhone 4. It only dipped into edge once, and on average it will hold a signal pretty well (I get the same amount of bars as the iPhone and same connection pull, pretty much).
-Call quality is fine on my end, although some people have had problems. It is generally recommended that you do a reformat immediately when you get the phone to be on the safe side. Speaker phone mode is also fine. The sound quality is also adequate for both headsets/ear buds and just for watching stuff like youtube without them.
-Build quality-wise, it is surprisingly thin and somewhat weightless and does fit in my pocket just fine. I am not the biggest fan of the chrome bezel, but it isn't bad per-se. The back looks and feels fine, but the battery cover can be a pain in the ass to get off. It also only comes with a 2GB SD Card, although it comes with a rather large 16GB internally. I have not run out of space yet, and I have quite a few apps installed.
-Camera-wise, it is a 8MP camera and it does show. Pictures do have detail in them and look rich and vibrant. I will note that the stock camera app has TERRIBLE image stability when compared to the iPhone 4's pictures, but several apps on the marketplace fix that issue. It also only records in 720p at the moment, but that might get upgraded with Gingerbread (The rogers version is supposed to ship with both Gingerbread and 1080p recording, so that might make a difference). The front facing camera is a 1.3MP one, which is a step up from VGA.
-Flash tends to run fine in the web browser as long as it isn't a huge size dimension wize (Youtube imbedding size works fine) while anything larger might lag. Also, if there is a bunch of flash content on a page, it WILL be slow. I have been pleased with it in general, although newgrounds might run a little slow and choppy.
I will say that I am pleasantly pleased with the phone, it might not be a dual core (1.2Ghz single core Hummingbird processor), but you really do not need dual cores at the moment. I say go for it if you want a huge screen and a decent all around android phone.
I'm coming from ios and I am interested in stock camera replacement apps.
The camera and photo manipulation apps I has on the iPhone is really all that I miss at this point.
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Ive never owned a iphone and i would like to know about the camera problems and whats needed to make it better. As stated above, there are several apps that fix it?????? "TERRIBLE image stability" ?????? What exactly does this mean?
I used my upgrade almost a month ago (coming from an infuse 4g) and initally i was wondering if i did the right thing. The SR is faster, has LTE (i dont live in an LTE area) however adding on another 2 years to my contract seemed questionable for such a small upgrade (at least from the Infuse). Ive been here for 3 weeks now and was thinking (just like some of you are) of switching to the SGS II simply because of the lack of dev support the SR seemes to have. Well 3 days ago i got an SGS II. I used it for about a day,did some tests, and i can now say with confidence that compared the the Skyrocket the SGS II doesnt even feel like it should be a part of the Galaxy family. The problems i had with it.
1. Build quality - The build quality was terrible! the back cover felt like a thin piece of cardboard, the speaker was horrible and it had that same ugly bump at the bottom of the phone my infuse and most other samsung phones have. It felt like if i dropped it that would be it. Not to mention the terrible backlighting of the capcative buttons on the front. The Skyrocket has the LED backlit... SGS II looks yellowish and just plain ugly
2. Network speed - I live in a crappy area. An hour north of fresno CA. With the Skyrocket i get about 3-7MBPS on "4g non LTE". With the SGS II in the same area same bars same everything i only could pull at the most 1-2.5mbps... Terrible!
3. Last years technology! - I purchased my Infuse 4g on launch day. I can honestaly say without a shadow of a doubt the SGS II feels and looks JUST LIKE the Infuse 4g. The only real difference is the Infuse 4g has a single core processor and a slightly larger screen. If im going to be under contract for another two years why would i want the same technology i could have gotten almost a year ago?
All in all NOW i can say im happy with my SR. It may not be a huge upgrade but its a hell of a lot better than the Infuse 4g/SGS II. The SGS II feels like something is missing, as if it were rushed to the market and compared to the Skyrocket is just feels plain slow in every aspect (browsing, gaming, daily tasks,) It felt just like the Infuse 4g!!! I dont look at it as the Galaxy S II. I look at it as a smaller Infuse 4g or a slightly upgraded Infuse. Please if your considering jumping ship make sure your thuroughly spend your time with that phone first. Glad I did.
I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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Nice comments... I was wondering if there was support and development of rom, manly to ICS dev to this sgs II lte, because I have the sgs I9000 and there is a lot of support, for example, I am running ICS already.
In resume, SGS II LTE there's a great hardware but poor support, am I correct?
How are your thoughts right now?
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The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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This is far from the truth. I was using the same wallpaper on the gs2 as I was on the skyrocket, the chroma ICS wallpaper, and the first thing I noticed when I booted up the skyrocket is how horrible the wallpaper looked. Colors were not blended well and the black parts looked blotchy.
And who wants to keep their brightness up all the time. I like having a battery that lasts all day and to do that I need to keep the brightness down. Regardless the screen quality on the skyrocket is not even close to the skyrocket.
Glad to see I'm not the only one having trouble deciding between these phones. I actually have both, and find myself swapping between the two.
1. I think the GSII is probably the best feeling phone in my hand. love the textured back, perfectly thin. I agree that the rounded corners on the SR piss me off. I've dropped this phone 3 times because it slid out of my carpenter pocket. I have never dropped the GSII in this manner and I attribute it to this design. I also prefer the power button on the GSII (location, click-feel). Petty, I know, but when you can hold and play with both for weeks at a time, you notice these things.
2. Apps. I'm actually liking the stock feel (for now) and noticed that the GSII has better apps. I get a kick out of the Voice Command/Talk App on the GSII (I want to port it over), the movie edit app, little things, ya know?
3. I do love the screen, the extra .2" makes a difference. Colors seems a bit on the washy side, but side to side I believe it is because the SR tends to be brighter than the SGII. i'm sure I could manually adjust it, but then I lose the AutoBrightness, but it still looks gorgeous. I'd give the SGII a 10, and the SR a 9.5, very negligible.
4. LTE, that's it. This is probably the only reason I bought the SR. It was faster, cheaper, and LTE is so close to my market I can smell it.
I don't think I'll ever settle until either LTE is in my market, or the wife steals the GSII from me.
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the extra .2" makes a difference
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That's what she said. Sorry I just had to.
OMG...
mentalcase said:
I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
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Screen/color calibration has been beaten to death, give it a rest. If you got blobs, take it back and get it replaced. My SGSII had the lines issue, but AT&T was totally understanding when I was able to reproduce the problem. Then I took the leap because most of North Texas AT&T is LTE and went for the Skyrocket. I will NOT go back. The potential of a blisteringly fast phone is much more realistic with this phone, and I can wait for CM9 or MIUI or one of the others to show up to play with. And face it, that is what we are talking about.. PLAYING with the phone.This is my daily phone and I travel all over a four county region repairing computer hardware, and, the GPS in this under 2.3.6 syncs sooo much quicker than any other phones I have used. It just is not a contest PERIOD.
Give the devs a chance, be very nice if you even mention download location and alpha in the same sentence, and, be very grateful when they roll one out. If I had the time, I would love to try my hand at it, but, I really need to get up to speed on the basics first..
Or, if you are still in AT&T buyer's remorse program, you can always swap it for the 4s and a pink rhinestone incrusted case...
BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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What is wrong with your Moshi screen protector, do you mean the circles not lining up? How are you getting Moshi to replace it? Did you buy it from their website or the att store? I have heard nothing about this.. lol
I had the Infuse and it frustrated the hell out of me. It seemed like it wanted to be a fast and functional phone, but it faceplanted daily. I moved to the HTC Vivid and I am not at all a Sense friend. It's a fast hone and has great features, but that seems like everything it can offer. I miss the screen on the Samsung phones already. What I really want to know is how well does the SR stand up to everyday use? I use Touchdown all day for work email, text a ton and use GPS daily as well. My kids watch movies on the phone when we travel and love to play games (shoot the apple is the latest.. try it!).
I don't care about a smooth back, it's getting cased. Is the camera as good as ppl say? How about the video? I've seen it skip and look choppy in some reviews when panning as cars drive by. Is it worth the 2yr extension? I've got 21 days left out of my 30 day return policy.
ROM wise, we wil get them, I've learned patience since I had my old Magic