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Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
Lol, As much as people diss the captivate it's hard to find another android phone that can match it.
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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I returned the Inspire because of all of those reasons, but the Atrix had even more problems than that.
I had the atrix...it may be better on paper but I'll stick with the captivate
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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I got my Atrix, and no way am I going back to my Captivate full time... I'll miss the Captivate's screen, but in the end, the Atrix is a superior phone. Just waiting for my unlock code now so I can actually use it on my carrier, but damn, its insanely fast! Still keeping my Captivate for backup purposes and to satisfy my flashing addiction.
One thing I wish manufacturers would include, dual sim slots... Then I wouldn't need 2 separate phones, one for home and one for work... Seems simple enough and wouldn't be very costly to add, considering all the cheap Chinese knockoff phones come with dual and even triple (dual GSM and a single CDMA) sim slots which all work simultaneously.
Other than that and the inferior screen compared to the Captivate, it's pretty hard to complain about the Atrix, I hope the devs get around the bootloader or Motorola finally caves in and decides to let us unlock it if we chose to (like the Xoom), but I won't complain if it doesn't happen... I can get rid of the stock launcher easily and replace it with Launcher Pro Plus, Zeam or ADW, which is really my only complaint about Blur. I'm happy it doesn't include Gingerbread yet, as it's still quite buggy and really doesn't offer much over Froyo anyways... Besides, that leaves at least 1 update that will arrive soonish where Motorola may throw in the bootloader unlock if people complain enough. ... Of course I won't be holding my breath, but it would be nice.
Overall, I'm happy with my purchase, I'll put it through more rigorous testing in the coming weeks after I get my unlock code, I'm sure it'll perform just fine though.
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
gandalf21502 said:
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I'd be all over the Galaxy S 2 if it still had a 4" screen (and possibly a higher resolution), but the 4.3" screen is the deal breaker for me. Yes, I realize that the screen's quality is far superior to the Atrix's, but when all things are considered, the Atrix makes up for it in raw specs and awesome accessories...
The Captivate is already huge for a phone (in my opinion), I can't imagine using anything bigger than that. Thickness isn't a big concern for me (I don't see why people are so obsessed with how thin phones are, a mm or 2 really doesn't make a huge difference... But meh, to each his/her own), but the overall height and width is what really bothers me, at 125mm (~5"), it's huge compared to the Atrix's 117mm (~4.5") or even the Captivate's 121mm (~4.7")...
I'm more interested to see how well Samsung's dual core Exynos processor performs than the Tegra 2 on the Galaxy S 2, knowing how snappy the Hummingbird currently is and how long it kept the performance crown, I have no doubts that the Exynos will be able to hold its own against, and possibly even beat the Tegra 2.
And yes, I completely agree, until we see some optimizations in the OS and apps for dual core SOCs, there really won't be a huge difference between single and dual cores in terms of performance... Thankfully, Tegra 2 optimized apps and games are starting to pop up on the Market, so it's only a matter of time. Benchmarks really aren't a good way to measure performance between single and dual cores, they're not very accurate with single cores either (they vary greatly between different kernels, yet real world performance remains the same), so I take synthetic benchmark results with a grain of salt.
Either way, dual cores are still very much in their infancy, it can only get better from here, and if past phones are any indication, we're in for a hell of a year in terms of Android goodness.
Well I have played with an Evo, 4.3 inch screen, and I can handle it pretty nicely in my hands. I can't imagine much bigger though for a phone myself.
Phones and basically netbooks now. Not quite up to the power a laptop, but soon that will change. I do like the docks for the Atrix, but do not really want to pay $500 for it. I can get a good laptop for the price now. I want portable power in a small package.
I would say that the tegra will have a slight advantage only on the fact that there will be more software optimized to run on it most likely. Nvida is a big company imop that leads the pc gpu market.
Certainly going to be a GREAT YEAR for 'smartphones'...(almost think the name needs to change soon...
I have the captivate and nexus one right now, had the Atrix when it came out but took it back.
now I only use the Captivare to either play games or as a backup if the Nexus 1 dies on me.
Played with an atrix. Couldn't find a justification to buy it. Not very impressive. Liked the inspire more, but still not enough to give up the captivate
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Krad said:
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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it blows so much you have to spend time in our forum instead of the streaks...oh wait there isn't much to see in the streak forum is there
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Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
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No wonder there are so many "refurbs" out there...
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i was going to get the Atrix because of the lapdock but i read its not very functional as for the trackpad and a bit too pricey. still happy with my cappy, good thing we have developers busy making our captivate better everyday, since at&t is too busy with the iphone
For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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Mikey, that was almost complimentary. You must be in a good mood for a change.
there are so many of these threads and soo many people have things they like about the captivate over there other phone. i messed with the atrix and like the webtop view but wish it did more than run firefox and web apps. it would be great if the phone view could be opened in multiple windows having all the active apps open at the same time if you wish but i guess you cant get everything. also a full text editor would be cool. i know it has office apps but a more desktop worthy app would be awesome in the webtop. but hearing that the inspire and atrix have lesser call quality makes me shy away from the atrix. the call quality is one of the best things about the captivate. plus the atrix does look a bit cheap with the back cover though i am gealous of the fingerprint reader and hdmi port.
now i want to put ubuntu on my phone so i can out do the atrix in the "hey my phone is a computer" catagory. my graphics benchmarks are already better. now we just need to find someone who can write a driver to get hdmi out from the usb port... hmmm i need to get my brother to stop playing wow, quit his night job and dev for android..
My friend bought and HD7, and as I played with it, the same charm the captivate had when I first saw it was pretty much non-existant. The Captivate is anything but perfect, but it is also anything but terrible. Oh, and it looks really bad ass too
Since the GS2 does work on at&t's "4g" network and can be had with a warranty for as little as 750$ shipped anyone else trying to decide what phone to go with?
I have a inspire and infuse currently. I was thinking about selling the infuse for 500$ and the inspire for 300$ (already have buyers) and picking up a GS2 buuuut after talking to a XDA member who sold his GS2 for a infuse I'm starting to think I will just keep the Infuse and pocket the cash from the inspire sell.
Dual core sounds neat but I would rather have a 1.8oc'd single core (I think anyway ) The biggest selling point on the gs2 for me is the additional memory. I got spoiled with the infuse and the large available memory with cm7 and am already maxing out my infuse's 512 with just the widgets and apps I had before.
My inspire feels "small" screen real estate wise now compared to the infuse so not excited about going back to 4.3....
Anyone else considering these phones? What is your thought process on comparing the two?
The problem I have is dev. Work.. seems like they waiting on the att/other phone company version to drop. But I to will get the sgsII(atain.)
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...
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Since the GS2 does work on at&t's "4g" network and can be had with a warranty for as little as 750$ shipped anyone else trying to decide what phone to go with?
I have a inspire and infuse currently. I was thinking about selling the infuse for 500$ and the inspire for 300$ (already have buyers) and picking up a GS2 buuuut after talking to a XDA member who sold his GS2 for a infuse I'm starting to think I will just keep the Infuse and pocket the cash from the inspire sell.
Dual core sounds neat but I would rather have a 1.8oc'd single core (I think anyway ) The biggest selling point on the gs2 for me is the additional memory. I got spoiled with the infuse and the large available memory with cm7 and am already maxing out my infuse's 512 with just the widgets and apps I had before.
My inspire feels "small" screen real estate wise now compared to the infuse so not excited about going back to 4.3....
Anyone else considering these phones? What is your thought process on comparing the two?
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if you want that clock speed then plan on keeping the inspire. not that it would preform 1.8 times as good or that you will feel the need for the infuse to go over 1.4.
i havent seen a hummingbird go over 1.6 yet. i have seen snapdragons do it though. now the hummingbird processes media and open gl exremely fast and im not sure a snapdragon really competes no matter how fast it is clocked, except for floating point where snapdragon chips rule.
I have an Infuse but I'll be giving it to another family member and buying a GS2 when it becomes available on AT&T as the Attain.
The infuse is a nice refresh phone, but is pathetic seeing how some people think its worth $500 let alone $600.
If you think inspire at 4.3 is small, galaxy s2 at 4.27 is even smaller, it looks like 4 inches!
I just use my phone for emails, gps, Internet, and phone calls. Do I really need dual core for that. Haha
At least one dev will make it over sooner or later I'm not to worried about that. I was (wishfully probably) thinking the infuse's 1.2ghz was maybe "binned" higher versions and could lead to better overclocks.
I have been with At&t for 7 years and my gut tells me we wont be able to purchase the Attain until September at the earliest. I might be wrong but we got our first glimpse of the infuse almost 6 months! ago, we still don't have that for the Attain. The press release everyone was expecting more information got pushed back from the 24th with no reschedule date.
I almost just pulled the trigger on a gs2 but here comes netnerd again with his infuse propaganda!
My inspire screen does seem small compared to the infuse now, its ruined me.....
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At least one dev will make it over sooner or later I'm not to worried about that. I was (wishfully probably) thinking the infuse's 1.2ghz was maybe "binned" higher versions and could lead to better overclocks.
I have been with At&t for 7 years and my gut tells me we wont be able to purchase the Attain until September at the earliest. I might be wrong but we got our first glimpse of the infuse almost 6 months! ago, we still don't have that for the Attain. The press release everyone was expecting more information got pushed back from the 24th with no reschedule date.
I almost just pulled the trigger on a gs2 but here comes netnerd again with his infuse propaganda!
My inspire screen does seem small compared to the infuse now, its ruined me.....
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well the chip may be better quality than the sgs, but there is no indication that it is a different part number. i would think there are more infuses that can hit 1.4 that sgs's, maybe more that can hit 1.6 but im not sure we will see much more than that. many sgs's have trouble at 1300. ifmy infuse goes to 1.6 id be stoked but im not expecting it.
as far as the attain, well there should have been a conference today to annouce new products presumably. it is the same day that they announced the sgs line for america, so it that pattern holds true we will know very soon when it is released and it may come as soon as july.
As little as $700.
Wow, you guys must be swimming in money.
What i dont get it, why everyone needs the dual core and extra memory? I mean the infuse runs very fast stock from the factory. Very smooth i think, and i am coming from an apple phone.
But hey, if you just have to have the latest and greatest i can understand.
I chose the Infuse over the Galaxy S2 mostly for the huge screen, and the fact that I didn't feel like waiting for the GS2's release date. I'm concerned about dual core phones overheating while charging, and also that supporting dual cores would have a negative impact on battery life.
The G2S's benchmark results were impressive, however. A tiny part of me wishes that I'd have waited it out. A tiny, insignificant part. The infuse is awesome.
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As little as $700.
Wow, you guys must be swimming in money.
What i dont get it, why everyone needs the dual core and extra memory? I mean the infuse runs very fast stock from the factory. Very smooth i think, and i am coming from an apple phone.
But hey, if you just have to have the latest and greatest i can understand.
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my feelings exactly. i loved the captivate but felt i wanted a change. i often felt jeleous of the 4.3"phone screens but couldnt stand the black levels of many phones afer having a captivate. didnt like the captivates screen because the subpixel layout is funky and makes small text less readable, now i like the infues after getting used to the size, hope that feeling lasts. the sgs2 is great but i dont know if thereis a really significant advantage to it. the audio is not great, the graphics processing is only marginally improved, if i get a dual core it will likely be a tablet that needs some extra power to support greater screen resolution. but so far the ipad2 is the only one that actually raised the bar with graphics processing. ill wait a while for something new, or get a phone with qhd or better resolution and high contrast ratio.
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and it may come as soon as july.
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I will literally eat my shoe if that happens , we still cant even buy the att nexus s thats been on ebay for months.
700$ isn't chump change or anything but when you can get 500$ for infuse its only 200$ more.
At the end of the day after messing with memory management and doing a few galaxy s fixes (ill post what worked and didnt in a new thread) Im going to hold onto the infuse.
Is there a date for the GS2
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The Europe/Asia model is out and can be purchased online for around 750-800$ with a warranty. The GSM unit will work great on ATT's 3g and "4g".
The US model has been announced (the name anyway) but we haven't seen the device or been given a time frame. Personally I think September will be the earliest we will be able to purchase this phone but other think as soon as july.
I am upgrading to a smartphone and really have no idea about anything... I am fairly tech savy with computers so I figured it was high time but after spending over 4 hours on anandtech comparing benchs and roaming the various sites I still feel like I don't know anything about smartphones...
At the moment I am hellbent on sticking with AT&T because I get a huge discount through my work (Grandfathered into unlimited data etc.)...
What I understand is that the Galaxy S2 or whatever is by far the best phone but it is also very expensive atm (800 dollars?) in U.S. and is not yet mainstream, so I can't spend that kind of money. I need my phone by sunday for work (job change), so I think the Atrix and Infuse are the two best 4G phones from AT&T...
Atrix has the dual core so it basically runs a little faster, smaller screen, matrix screen etc. etc.
Infuse is larger, maybe slightly longer(?) battery life due to single core, has a superior screen and is rootable/unlockable or something due to the bootloader(?)
Being a tech junkie I crave speed and hate waiting for anything so the atrix loads web pages and programs faster so that seems appetizing at first. This has to be weighed against the "custom goodies" you can get with the infuse.
So basically please help, I have no idea what a locked bootloader means, why it is bad that the atrix has that, and what the "custom goodies" that come from having a rootable(?) phone are for the Infuse. My understanding is that the Infuse is more customizable (how exactly?). Really my understanding between these two phones is that besides the superior sound and video quality from the infuse (bigger size too) is that the atrix is faster and that has to be weighed against how customizable the infuse is. Sorry for the vague questions but I don't really know much, I realize I am posting on the infuse boards so the responses might be somewhat bias.
Sorry if this is the wrong place this is my first post and first quest into the world of smartphones...
Simple - Motoblur is a steaming turd that slows down phones and eats battery, and the locked bootloader of Motorola devices means that you are stuck with whatever turd Moto gives you. A lot of people felt that even the (slightly weaker than the Infuse) HTC Inspire was faster in actual usability for most tasks than the Atrix due to the crappiness of Motoblur.
With an unlocked bootloader, you aren't stuck with carrier bloatware and can nuke it. For now, an unlocked bootloader means only that we have de-bloated and tweaked variants of the stock ROM, however down the line, we can expect:
1) If another carrier (such as Rogers) releases an update AT&T doesn't, it can be used as a base for ROMs for our AT&T phones. Example - it's rumored the Canadians will get Gingerbread for the Infuse first.
2) Eventually with Infuses in the right dev's hands, we'll see AOSP or the Cyanogenmod source tree targeted at our device. Once that's the case, we'll likely track the latest and greatest Android versions with little delay.
You will never see either of 1 or 2 with an Atrix.
Also if you search the threads you will see a lot of people who came from the atrix and say this is not only a better phone, but faster
I dunno guys - it's looking more and more like the next Atrix OTA is going to have a bootloader unlock and if that really happens then I'm really going to regret leaving the Atrix behind for the Infuse.
Both are great devices. To make your decision ask yourself one question: What is more important to me? A device that works or a device I can customize to the max.
I think that'll help you make a firm decision.
I had the Atrix for almost 30 days. I rooted it on day 1. I loved the long lasting battery cause I use the hell out of my phone. That battery would easily last me a full day! From 8:15 am till around 20% left before I went to bed at 2 am lol the phone would lag once in a while though and people had a hard time hearing me when I spoke on the phone. So I returned it.
The Infuse is sweet so far! Also rooted on day 1. Just wish it had a battery similar to the Atrix and a dual core processor. Everything else is great as is!
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I am upgrading to a smartphone and really have no idea about anything... I am fairly tech savy with computers so I figured it was high time but after spending over 4 hours on anandtech comparing benchs and roaming the various sites I still feel like I don't know anything about smartphones...
At the moment I am hellbent on sticking with AT&T because I get a huge discount through my work (Grandfathered into unlimited data etc.)...
What I understand is that the Galaxy S2 or whatever is by far the best phone but it is also very expensive atm (800 dollars?) in U.S. and is not yet mainstream, so I can't spend that kind of money. I need my phone by sunday for work (job change), so I think the Atrix and Infuse are the two best 4G phones from AT&T...
Atrix has the dual core so it basically runs a little faster, smaller screen, matrix screen etc. etc.
Infuse is larger, maybe slightly longer(?) battery life due to single core, has a superior screen and is rootable/unlockable or something due to the bootloader(?)
Being a tech junkie I crave speed and hate waiting for anything so the atrix loads web pages and programs faster so that seems appetizing at first. This has to be weighed against the "custom goodies" you can get with the infuse.
So basically please help, I have no idea what a locked bootloader means, why it is bad that the atrix has that, and what the "custom goodies" that come from having a rootable(?) phone are for the Infuse. My understanding is that the Infuse is more customizable (how exactly?). Really my understanding between these two phones is that besides the superior sound and video quality from the infuse (bigger size too) is that the atrix is faster and that has to be weighed against how customizable the infuse is. Sorry for the vague questions but I don't really know much, I realize I am posting on the infuse boards so the responses might be somewhat bias.
Sorry if this is the wrong place this is my first post and first quest into the world of smartphones...
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From what I've read, the infuse is actually faster than the atrix. Even though the infuse has a 1.2 GHz single core and the atrix a 1GHz running at 2 cores, the infuse is faster since android is only being loaded on a single core for the atrix and to my knowledge, there arent any apps on the market that are able to multi-thread. I may be wrong but that's what I have seen. Also, the hummingbird processor on the infuse can decode(and hopefully encode with the gingerbread update) full HD faster than the atrix's tegra. I have also read that the atrix has some problems with overheating but I may be wrong. The infuse is a pretty good phone, granted the Touch Wiz UI is not as friendly as Sense UI, it is a hella lot better than Motoblur. For the battery life, the infuse is very good and lasting, i don't know about the atrix though. The screen on the infuse is just killer and has AMAZING colors, its basically a pocketable 4.5 inch 1080p HDTV, while the atrix is a smaller sceen(4 inch) phone with qHD display. I believe the infuse's screen is better though because its a SAMOLED(super active matrix organic light emiting diode) screen which eliminates some screen filters that normal LEDs, LCDs and TFTs have, making the colors wonderful. The atrix's qHD display does have 24bit color but i think that it comes short to the infuse. Hope you choose the infuse though. The possible gingerbread update will make it far more superior to most known phones. You wouldn't have buyers remorse
Hopefully I can help a little as I currently use "both" devices. They each have their pros and cons and it really tailors to what you "need" in a smartphone.
Keep in mind I am going from my perspective as a power user, display is off and phone not running some sort of app in the course of 12 hours for maybe 2 hours total.
The atrix succeeds in battery life, 7am to 7pm I still hold about 15-20%, infuse is being charged at that time, actually usually an hour before.
Atrix has better gps lock speed, I definitely rely on it more for road trips, although I have an issue where the gps and google nav use more power that what my cla replenishes "look into it if this is important to you"
Screen goes to the infuse hands down, people say oh qHD is more this and that, Super amoled plus is more this and that, well guess what. When I look at my infuse and turn on a video, I feel like im looking through a window into a little 4.5in world, its amazing
Considering almost ALL of us root, change, configure and who knows what else to personal our device I wouldn't listen to all the motoblur sucks, sense suck, tw sucks folks out there. Both of my phones look exactly the same and although the atrix should be faster the only time I see it win is when loading certain apps, other than that they are damn close so if phone speed is a concern, you can enjoy either one.
The Atrix is definitely LOUDER!! I tend to miss calls here and there with my infuse in the pocket and im outside, never miss a beat with the atrix, wtg moto. Reminds me of the old loud razor.
Screen real estate was a must for me for editing files so that was my win for the infuse, I love the large responsive display. It may only be .5 in but it makes a difference trust me
All in all they are both great devices and worthy of use. The atrix definitely wins in the poweruser world for its trusty gps, louder ringer (people don't like if you miss their call ) and longer battery life
for the entertainment or social user I would say infuse all the way, much much much better camera, larger display, more crisp, light, great size for web browsing, social networking, or just about anything. It has some things it lacks as mentioned but if those are not deal breakers than the infuse is definitely more FUN to own.
PS: They both run games exceptionally well and I have yet to see a hiccup during gameplay that actually affected me while playing.
Well, the Atrix bootloader was unlocked last night. So, we now have Gingerbread on our phones!
Infuse has
Better camera than the Atrix
far better screen
better stock software
Atrix has
better accessories
better feel/build quality
theoretically faster specs (although it doesn't translate to reality at this point)
probably better development now that it's unlocked as well, motorola devices seem to be easier to develop for than Samsung ?
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Considering almost ALL of us root, change, configure and who knows what else to personal our device I wouldn't listen to all the motoblur sucks, sense suck, tw
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I disagree on that - if the stock UI sucks and the manufacturer has gone through measures to make you unable to change it, then it's a severe liability.
Motoblur sucks and on most Motorola phones, you have no choice. Apparently that may be changing/have changed as of last night for the Atrix, but I still don't trust Motorola. The arrogance of some of the things they've said to the public is inexcusable.
I'm months overdue from getting rid of my Touch Pro 2, and the Charge is one of my top contenders. I was holding out for the Bionic (or rumored Verizon Nexus S), but after researching the X2 and Droid 3 and seeing the Dev community having issues achieving root, I'm now leaning back towards the current single core LTE handsets.
The brief time I've spent looking around, it looks like the battery life is great considering the usual LTE excess drain. Obviously the phone is rootable, there are kernels and roms available, and the dev community seems to be very active with the phone in general.
I haven't specifically seen any mention of overclock ability or "stealth" tethering, but I would have to assume these are all doable considering the kernel and rom availability.
If anybody wouldn't mind sharing some general feedback, I would greatly appreciate it!
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why?
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
Thanks again in advance for any comments, they would be much appreciated!
Cheers!
I like my charge. I also came from a TP2 like you. The battery life is decent but the 4g is awesome to have. It flies. I use stealth tethering via wireless tether for root users. The dev community is very active. The main issues I have are bluetooth related. I often have to reboot before I get into my car so I know there will not be bluetooth disconnects. Now that netflix is available I like the phone even more. Also I love swype.
Good luck and smart idea asking the questions that you are asking.
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I came to the Charge from the Revolution. I liked the feel of the Revo, it was heavier, felt solid and well made and it was also a much faster phone than the charge out of the box giving me Quadrants in 2k to 22k range. On 4g Speed tests the Charge is faster.
But when I had two Revolutions brick themselves so hard that I could not get into a factory reset, nor anything else in the space of 30 days I had VZW upgrade me to the Charge.
So far the Charge has beena pretty decent phone (considering I've rooted and ROMed it.) Stock I hated it.
I'm using Humble 1.42 as my ROM and I'm happy so far.
Time to upgrade buddy. Humble 1.51 is sick.
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Time to upgrade buddy. Humble 1.51 is sick.
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* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why? Very happy. 4G is lightning fast; the screen is the best out there; I personally find the Samsung TouchWiz UI to be very friendly. Others don't; each to his own. Battery life seems at least as good as any other Android phone; I can get 9-12 hours, which is all I need, unless I'm in a fringe reception area.
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution? LG phones generally seem to be more troublesome from what I've read. Plus the screen is greatly inferior.
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I'm months overdue from getting rid of my Touch Pro 2, and the Charge is one of my top contenders. I was holding out for the Bionic (or rumored Verizon Nexus S), but after researching the X2 and Droid 3 and seeing the Dev community having issues achieving root, I'm now leaning back towards the current single core LTE handsets.
The brief time I've spent looking around, it looks like the battery life is great considering the usual LTE excess drain. Obviously the phone is rootable, there are kernels and roms available, and the dev community seems to be very active with the phone in general.
I haven't specifically seen any mention of overclock ability or "stealth" tethering, but I would have to assume these are all doable considering the kernel and rom availability.
If anybody wouldn't mind sharing some general feedback, I would greatly appreciate it!
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why?
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
Thanks again in advance for any comments, they would be much appreciated!
Cheers!
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Sorry for quoting this long, its hard to look back at posts on your phone. I came from an LG Versa. That phone was complete ****, but I was 13 or 14 and something appealed to me. This is my upgrade. I love it, except for the battery life. We have 2 main custom roms, GummyCharged and Eclipse. (Humble is just a spinoff/kang of GC), and 2-3 kernels - PeanutButtaJellyTime (plus an OC edition, you mentioned you didn't see it), Nameless, and imoseyon's kernel, which you will only find on his Twitter page. "Stealth Tethering" is still available with Wifi Tether Beta3 on Google Code. I chose this over the Tbolt and Revolution because a verizon rep told me this was the 4G phone with the least issues and most positive customer feedback, plus I thought this one had the most support from XDA (the tbolt has a lot too though). My only peeve with this phone is its lack of support from Samsung. We basically have to do everything ourselves because Sammy hasn't given us good source. We don't get TW4 (although we have our attempts at porting it), and GB is FINALLY almost here. The Wolfson DAC is amazing, but the GPS (Yamaha?) leaves something to be desired. But in closing, I love this phone and im glad I got it.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1
kvswim, thanks VERY much for that! Quick question, though (or for anyone else), not actually having an Android phone yet, I have no idea what TW4 or DAC means.
Great to know OC is an option, as well as stealth tethering.
Also appreciate the scoop on the different flavors of roms/kernels/etc.
If I end up going with this phone (which is now far ahead in the lead), that will be the first thing I do upon opening up the box.
Thanks again!
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kvswim, thanks VERY much for that! Quick question, though (or for anyone else), not actually having an Android phone yet, I have no idea what TW4 or DAC means.
Great to know OC is an option, as well as stealth tethering.
Also appreciate the scoop on the different flavors of roms/kernels/etc.
If I end up going with this phone (which is now far ahead in the lead), that will be the first thing I do upon opening up the box.
Thanks again!
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TW4=TouchWiz 4, Sammy's 4th generation of their UI overlay, similar to HTC's Sense or Motorola's Motoblur. We have TW3. Also, the stock theming is HIDEOUS. Poop color EVERYWHERE.
The Wolfson DAC is the audio chipset in most (all?) Samsung Galaxy phones. It is amazing compared to other phones, it's audiophile quality. Plus the EQ and amplifier outputs can be modified with the Voodoo Control app (you can also change Voodoo lagfix in it).
PROTIP on selecting ROMS: If you like the stock feel go with Eclipse. If you like more of an Android Open Source Project (AOSP) feel, use GC. I highly reccommend trying both and seeing what you like more. Also, as of now, Gingerbread is completely up to you, as all we have in GB are leaks and no source (its completely unnoficial). Our Froyo builds are built from official ROMS and source.
Oh yes, we have stuff like MIUI and CM7 and OMFGB in development. Protip: NEVER ask for ETAs.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1
Gotcha, thanks. I do have a Xoom, but considering that's on Honeycomb, I didn't think there would be any relation between it and any phone.
When you said DAC the only thing that came to mind was digital to analog converter, but I didn't think that would be it. Guess I was wrong! That's another huge plus as my phone is always my mp3/flac player.
Will definitely check out all roms if/once I get the phone.
At this point I'm pretty much sold on the Charge as opposed to the Revo or TB, and even the Bionic. However, I am wondering if it's worth waiting a couple weeks until the rumored September release date for the Bionic to see if the price points fall. All things being equal, they should.
Again, thanks for all the help!
I got my charge 2 days ago...via a sweet craigslist deal. Anyways, I'm coming from the THunderbolt. I still haven't rooted the phone yet but the tbolt was perma rooted running a GB rom. Now I know you said LG rev but I'm going to go on a little rant here based on my initial thoughts.
I gotta say, I think the charge is an underrated phone. So far the battery life on the charge is DESTROYING the thunderbolt. The real test will be tomorrow when I'm at work with a poor data signal. I think the phone itself looks great, it is much better in person than you see in pictures. In pictures it looks fat and weird, I think its pretty sleek for a 4.3" LTE phone. Nice metal accents, good form factor, I could've done without the android hardkeys, but I don't mind them.
Samsung phones get knocked for build quality, but my galaxy s when I was on tmobile took a ton of abuse, the screen never scratched and even the "metal" accent trims don't scratch much. Also, I personally like the lighter weight feel of the samsung phones (galaxy, nexus, charge, etc).
Take that in comparison with HTC phones and the thunderbolt... I seroiusly don't know what kind of HTC koolaid people drink but I've never been impressed. The thunderbolt's screen is NOT very scratch resistant, the kickstand peel reaked of sh*t quality, I ended up polishing mine. When I had my nexus one, the power button felt like crap. When I had my HD7, the battery cover squeaked like hell. Like I said, I don't get how HTC gets so much credit.
Moving on to slam HTC more, if you ask me, HTC sense sucks, its so intrusive and blocky to me. Maybe I'm in the minority there but I'm sick of the stupid HTC clock widget, the menus, etc, just isn't my thing I guess. Lets not to mention the messages app in the thunderbolt freezing ALOT. Of course I ditched sense with the AOSP rom I was running but still, initial frustration. People give touchwiz heat, but I really don't mind it.
Reception - I'm getting FAR better 4g connectivity with the charge. I don't know what was up with my tbolt but once I'd drop to 3g or 1x, I could never get back to 4g unless I rebooted. Multiple radios - same issue.
Finally, the screen. Sorry but one of the most rewarding things with a phone is the screen, every time you turn it on, you obviously see it, and with the charge, thats a good thing because the super amoled plus is just excellent. Destroys the thunderbolt and most other phones in general.
Forget quadrant scores (people get wayyyy hung up on QS), dual cores, everything else. At the end of the day, if the aesthetics of the phone are good - size, weight, pocketability, the screen, the device is snappy (and the charge is smooth for me in stock form), and battery life is good, I'm gonna be happy. With all those things into account, I think the charge is a great phone so far and I'm really surprised its kind of slid under the radar and not given credit because people are waiting for the bionic and gs2.
Sorry to do tbolt vs charge since thats not what you're looking for, but as far as general feedback - I think you're going to be happy with the charge, its quite honestly a very nice phone. I'm glad I gave another LTE phone a chance before I lost faith in it.
Thanks Dale, I actually do appreciate the TBolt comparison. It was originally my #1 or #2 pick, so this reaffirms that it is rightfully at the bottom of my list.
It just hit me that Super AMOLED is probably the same as SAMOLED. I saw another article (about a completely different phone, actually) that was raving about SAMOLED. Good to have some additional confirmation on that.
I was originally hung up on Quadrant scores and having that dual core. However, after I thought about it, I'm really not sure how important it is considering what I would use the phone for. I have my Xoom, and that is my real "mobile workhorse" now, so that's the device that I'm more concerned about performance on. The phone will primarily be for web browsing, work e-mail, music, tethering, and that's pretty much it. Any other heavy lifting would probably be done by the Xoom. All that being said, I've pretty much convinced myself I won't miss not having the second core. Plus, I'm sure the battery life is better with only 1 core versus 2.
I'm actually pretty stoked after reading all of this feedback, especially the feedback from people who had another LTE phone. I feel good about going with this phone in the very near future.
Again, thanks to all!
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Thanks Dale, I actually do appreciate the TBolt comparison. It was originally my #1 or #2 pick, so this reaffirms that it is rightfully at the bottom of my list.
It just hit me that Super AMOLED is probably the same as SAMOLED. I saw another article (about a completely different phone, actually) that was raving about SAMOLED. Good to have some additional confirmation on that.
I was originally hung up on Quadrant scores and having that dual core. However, after I thought about it, I'm really not sure how important it is considering what I would use the phone for. I have my Xoom, and that is my real "mobile workhorse" now, so that's the device that I'm more concerned about performance on. The phone will primarily be for web browsing, work e-mail, music, tethering, and that's pretty much it. Any other heavy lifting would probably be done by the Xoom. All that being said, I've pretty much convinced myself I won't miss not having the second core. Plus, I'm sure the battery life is better with only 1 core versus 2.
I'm actually pretty stoked after reading all of this feedback, especially the feedback from people who had another LTE phone. I feel good about going with this phone in the very near future.
Again, thanks to all!
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"Super AMOLED" and "SAMOLED" are the same thing, however the Charges' screen is SAMOLED+ But yeah I think it was pretty solid upgrade for me, I love the screen, 4G is blazing fast, build quality and durability are pretty decent and the included 32gb sd card is plenty of room for music, videos and apps
schick79 said:
I'm months overdue from getting rid of my Touch Pro 2, and the Charge is one of my top contenders. I was holding out for the Bionic (or rumored Verizon Nexus S), but after researching the X2 and Droid 3 and seeing the Dev community having issues achieving root, I'm now leaning back towards the current single core LTE handsets.
The brief time I've spent looking around, it looks like the battery life is great considering the usual LTE excess drain. Obviously the phone is rootable, there are kernels and roms available, and the dev community seems to be very active with the phone in general.
I haven't specifically seen any mention of overclock ability or "stealth" tethering, but I would have to assume these are all doable considering the kernel and rom availability.
If anybody wouldn't mind sharing some general feedback, I would greatly appreciate it!
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why?
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
Thanks again in advance for any comments, they would be much appreciated!
Cheers!
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Dude...
Don't get the Charge.
While it's very true there will alwaya be devices that outperform * it'a safe to say the Charge seemed rushed from development to market probably because they were tapped to do so because of either HTC or Motk dropped the ball...
While rooting can solve the much outdated 2.2 joke made at our expense and even though many people have been forced to look at a front face camera (that takes back assward pics no less) and that isn't working across the board for many video chat users....you are forced to deal with an unrecoverable error such as the laughable RAM, arguably necessity of a notifcation LED, and ****ty build quality Samsung (in this device) exemplifies times 10.
Wait and be patient is the best intelligent decision considering the norm will (soon) be:
4.3-4.5 screen (hd res)
1gb of RAM
16gb internal storage
Up to date operating systems...
That said, I enjoy and dislike my Charge.
It's better than my O.G. DROID.
It takes THE best pictures and video of any phone Verizon offers...period.
Do I enjoy the squeaky hard buttons?
Do I like seeing particles of dust (a la bb storm 9530) ?
Do I enjoy ****ty plastic that easily scratches?
Nope.
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schick79 said:
I was originally hung up on Quadrant scores and having that dual core. However, after I thought about it, I'm really not sure how important it is considering what I would use the phone for. I have my Xoom, and that is my real "mobile workhorse" now, so that's the device that I'm more concerned about performance on. The phone will primarily be for web browsing, work e-mail, music, tethering, and that's pretty much it. Any other heavy lifting would probably be done by the Xoom. All that being said, I've pretty much convinced myself I won't miss not having the second core. Plus, I'm sure the battery life is better with only 1 core versus 2.
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For what it's worth, running overclocked and undervolted on Froyo Eclipse, my Quadrant scores were 1800-1900, which was about double the original score. Not the best but not terrible. Still had solid battery life, great stability, etc. Definitely glad I got this phone, but that's mainly because I rooted it and fixed so many of the things I didn't like originally. Playing on the EP1Q GummyCharged GBE ROM now and still loving it, just get to use the FFC for video chat.
Honestly, yes there will be VZW devices that out-spec it soon, but I've not found it lacking anything (that couldn't be fixed thanks to the dev community). Very happy with it.
You have the Motorola Bionic and the Galaxy S2 dropping within the month, I'd hold out. Not to say that the Droid Charge isn't good, but, those phones are going to be right around the same price and will smoke the Charge in performance.
The Droid Charge isn't that great. I only got it because I needed something to get in on Unlimited data and the Charge was supposed to get better battery life than the other two LTE phones.
First, the battery life is just OK. Only around 4-5 hours of music streaming.
Second, the 4G reception is incredibly spotty. The phone will drop to 3G for seemingly no reason. Sometimes data cuts out completely or goes to 1x (this is a widespread problem).
Like other Galaxy S phones, this has GPS issues. Sometimes GPS will stop working until you reboot the phones. I've never seen it reports an accuracy of more than 5 meters.
Even after trying the GPS fix posted in the other topic, I was only getting 10-18m accuracy outside with 7-9 satellites in view.
The Super AMOLED+ screen is pretty much amazing though.
It seems like Samsung is decent at hardware but bad at software. And there aren't any ROMs available here that aren't based on Samsung software.
I'd at least wait and see about the Bionic or Nexus Prime.
schick79 said:
* In general, how happy have you been with your Charge, and why?
* Why did you choose it over, say, the LG Revolution?
* Anyone unhappy with their decision to go with the Charge (after-the-fact) over something else, and if so, why?
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1) I'm VERY happy with my Charge. It's probably because this was my first smartphone but I'm simply blown away by it. Especially considering we have Cyanogen & OMGB/OMFGB coming our way(in-fact, they just got CM working! Not finished, but it's a start)
2) I looked at all the phones that were out and coming out and decided on the Charge. I didn't look into the dev support for other phones I was just looking at specs/reviews to make my decision.
3) Lets get this straight, I am in no way unhappy with my Charge and did not "settle" when picking this phone but in all honesty the Prime/GalaxyS2/Bionic look great and if they were released at the time of me picking out a phone I would have gotten them in that order. Only downside to this phone is the fact that it's not on GB and most likely won't ever get TW4. If you can get around that you'll love this phone. Also, once you see the screen you will never go back to a non Amoled, qHD ain't got **** on this baby!
My wife an I both got charges a couple of months ago. I am rooted and she is stock. When I pick up her phone and mess around with it, I absolutely hate it. I love mine (gummy charged). I don't know how people can use this phone stock.
el_brio said:
My wife an I both got charges a couple of months ago. I am rooted and she is stock. When I pick up her phone and mess around with it, I absolutely hate it. I love mine (gummy charged). I don't know how people can use this phone stock.
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Im almost in the same exact situation and couldnt agree more
Hi,
I have a Samsung Captivate (running AT&T stock 2.3.5, unlocked) and am almost about to pull the trigger on the Skyrocket (late to the party.. I know). What am I getting into? I keep reading about ICS delays, unable to root, unlock etc. Is it worth it?
I thought about waiting for S3, but maybe not.
Go ahead, do your best, talk me out of the S2 Skyrocket..
Regards
Nick
Don't get the Skyrocket, your better off waiting for the S3 for sure, or the HTC One series, basically our phone, although a great one, sadly has little to nothing going for it anymore versus any new phones coming in the next few months, basically there's no point getting the Skyrocket anymore. Hope that helped.
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Don't get the Skyrocket, your better off waiting for the S3 for sure, or the HTC One series, basically our phone, although a great one, sadly has little to nothing going for it anymore versus any new phones coming in the next few months, basically there's no point getting the Skyrocket anymore. Hope that helped.
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Which one specifically from HTC? I love the Samsung screens. Have noticed that the HTC screens looked "washed out" - is that still the case?
Well it depends what carrier you're on, no one knows for sure which phones from the One series are gonna land on what carrier, but ATT will probably get the higher end One X, while Sprint might get the One S. Also I think the new HTC phones use Super LCD 2, so might not be that bad, worse than AMOLED tech for sure but probably fine tbh. Also I think the new Sony Xperia phones are coming out too, those might now have the craziest specs but they're really nicely designed and are gonna have some of the better cameras to be on phones this year For those you'll want thr Xperia Ion, look it up it's a beautiful device ^^
I have had my Skyrocket for about a month and love it. I rooted it and removed a bunch of the AT&T and Samsung stuff, but it is otherwise stock.
I came from the Dell Streak/Venue family of phones. They worked very well but the Streak was too big (5 inch screen) for everyday use and the 4 inch screen of the Dell Venue was just too small. The 4.5 inch screen of the Skyrocket is just right for my needs.
The Skyrocket is very snappy and unless I have a heavy use day the battery lasts all days for me (12-14 hours). Today has been light use, almost none really, and the battery is at 73% after 13 hours. Most days I am in the 25-30% range after 18 hours.
I use Launcher Pro as my home launcher and am not big on widgets that update. I do not use twitter or facebook, but do have 3 push email accounts that I use K-9 for. My biggest non-phone uses are as an e-reader (Kindle, Nook) and as an mp3 player (usually wired directly to the vehicle radio*).
I use the GPS 4 or 5 times a week to check traffic with Google maps or look for alternate routes due to an accident. The gps locks fast and I have had zero issues with it.
Right now a refurbished Skyrocket is $20 with a new contract at the at&t web site. This is what I paid for mine.
* For the connection to the vehicle radio I use a Scosche cable. It includes a mic and makes the phone hands free.
what phone to wait for...
defriend said:
Hi,
I have a Samsung Captivate (running AT&T stock 2.3.5, unlocked) and am almost about to pull the trigger on the Skyrocket (late to the party.. I know). What am I getting into? I keep reading about ICS delays, unable to root, unlock etc. Is it worth it?
I thought about waiting for S3, but maybe not.
Go ahead, do your best, talk me out of the S2 Skyrocket..
Regards
Nick
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Good suggestions ideas and experiences already posted, I thought I'd share how my wife now enjoys her new Samsung Galaxy Note. It is HUGE. Too big for me to carry in my pocket so I'm stickin' with my skyrocket. She has a purse instead of a pocket, and her eyes are even worse than my own so a bigger screen was a no brainer. It's a nice phone, that note, it sure is. Nice big screen, seriously.
This skyrocket I use is pretty darn good, suits all my needs. I rooted it with no problem, and I flashed a version of cyanogenmod on it, and it's flawless. Cyanowiz it's called here in the forums for skyrocket. It eliminates all the AT&T carrier IQ, so I can turn on the wifi hotspot and let my friend at work use it, as his Sprint service and signal is sub-par, and it makes his iphone 4 go faster. Downside of showing off like that is it blows the lid off my tiered data plan.
(no ICS yet, heard it was buggy anyway)
I'm not sure how much better a device can get, I hear rumors of an Iphone 5 and mentioned by you is a S3? Cool! Perhaps hanging in there with the captivate a bit longer will yield an even faster more modern device.
I'll just say the difference between the skyrocket and the captivate is a dual core processor and yes it's faster, but if we're talkin' out of pocket expense as something to consider, it pays to stay a tad out of date and content with what you already have! If you're eligible for upgrade, you're also eligible to kick AT&T to the curb with no extra cost and consider other carriers. I'd talk to neighbors and friends about the performance of Verizon etc, instead of automatically just starting a new 2 year contract with AT&T, check all your options.
Hope that helps decide.
Get what you want...end of story
Don't worry to much about what others want or think. If you wait for the S3 which I admit will be awesome....how long till it is obsolete or "old" about 3 months. then everyone will want the "samsung/htc/??? Universe infinity blackhole 7" that is all the time you really have being the latest and greatest.
I love the skyrocket and I'm sure i'd love the S3 or note or any "current" phone. You get what you want, but hey if your buying I'll take a Note, not sure why though lol, XDA is a great place to look around and see the communities before you choose.
Skyrocket isn't worth it anymore, get the note.
Get a note
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I haven't personally held the note, but it looks huge! I would guess its not so good on battery, but that's just a guess.
Sent from SKYROCKET
NexusMod 4.0
Romracer 0.3
Yes.. I am looking at $20 for the refurb. Hopefully refurb means somebody just returned it because it was too much power in their hands rather than beat the crap out of the phone and send it back...
Will probably stick to At&T due to GSM (I travel internationally once every few months). Will probably get the phone unlocked a few weeks after getting it.
Samsung Note feel too big.. is it?
Nick
fukenbiker said:
Good suggestions ideas and experiences already posted, I thought I'd share how my wife now enjoys her new Samsung Galaxy Note. It is HUGE. Too big for me to carry in my pocket so I'm stickin' with my skyrocket. She has a purse instead of a pocket, and her eyes are even worse than my own so a bigger screen was a no brainer. It's a nice phone, that note, it sure is. Nice big screen, seriously.
This skyrocket I use is pretty darn good, suits all my needs. I rooted it with no problem, and I flashed a version of cyanogenmod on it, and it's flawless. Cyanowiz it's called here in the forums for skyrocket. It eliminates all the AT&T carrier IQ, so I can turn on the wifi hotspot and let my friend at work use it, as his Sprint service and signal is sub-par, and it makes his iphone 4 go faster. Downside of showing off like that is it blows the lid off my tiered data plan.
(no ICS yet, heard it was buggy anyway)
I'm not sure how much better a device can get, I hear rumors of an Iphone 5 and mentioned by you is a S3? Cool! Perhaps hanging in there with the captivate a bit longer will yield an even faster more modern device.
I'll just say the difference between the skyrocket and the captivate is a dual core processor and yes it's faster, but if we're talkin' out of pocket expense as something to consider, it pays to stay a tad out of date and content with what you already have! If you're eligible for upgrade, you're also eligible to kick AT&T to the curb with no extra cost and consider other carriers. I'd talk to neighbors and friends about the performance of Verizon etc, instead of automatically just starting a new 2 year contract with AT&T, check all your options.
Hope that helps decide.
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March / April are the worst months for buying laptops, desktops and phones.
It's the end of the quarter and all the new stuff is about to come out and all the old stuff is already almost a year old.
Why do you want to pay regular price for old hardware? That's like buying a blackberry.
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