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Gingerbread 'in next few days' (for N1)

Im sure most of you have seen this buy now, but I figured, no harm in posting it. Lucky nexus users......
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/08/open-handset-alliance-member-confirms-android-2-3-is-gingerbread/

Yup.
Saw it here too
http://www.informationweek.com/news/smb/mobile/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=228200423&itc=ref-true
This makes Samsung look lazy..

mymansionisabox said:
This makes Samsung look lazy..
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Gingerbread landing on Google's own developer phone prior to every other handset makes Samsung look lazy?

hawkeyefan said:
Gingerbread landing on Google's own developer phone prior to every other handset makes Samsung look lazy?
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Because Samsung has yet to launch 2.2 on their own "premiere" Galaxy S line of phones.
Of course, this is my opinion.
2.2 has been released officially since May 2010.
Droid X was released July 15th, with Android 2.1
Android 2.2 was pushed OTA to Droid X on September 22, 2010
Samsung Captivate was released July 18th with Android 2.1... still no Froyo
I'm not complaining. I'm stating my opinion...
And now.. 2.3 is coming out and I think most of us would agree. If the N1 can handle 2.3, so can the Captivate, the whole Galaxy S line.
So yes.. lazy.. because now they will have to start working on a release for 2.3 and they haven't even finished a 2.2 release. You and I already know Motorola is on top of this.
Maybe lazy isn't the best choice of words.. but.. whatever. I think you get my point.

Ah, in relation to Froyo, gotcha. I agree to a certain extent.

I highly doubt we will see an official 2.3 release...
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hawkeyefan said:
Ah, in relation to Froyo, gotcha. I agree to a certain extent.
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Yeah haha. I mean I'm not bashing Samsung. I'm just in fear that they might be a bit over their heads now.
They basically are going to have to stay in constant development with this.. They haven't finished 2.2 yet and now 2.3 is about to be released.
I fear that our phones will be left behind FAR before they really should be.
Idk.. I'm a pessimist a guess.

mymansionisabox said:
Yeah haha. I mean I'm not bashing Samsung. I'm just in fear that they might be a bit over their heads now.
They basically are going to have to stay in constant development with this.. They haven't finished 2.2 yet and now 2.3 is about to be released.
I fear that our phones will be left behind FAR before they really should be.
Idk.. I'm a pessimist a guess.
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That's strange...last few time I talked with the Galaxy people at Samsung..it was told to me that 2.2 has been finished at all of the Carriers for some time..This makes this very confusing for me to say the least. Is it really Samsung at fault...or the carriers that are at fault with all of the delays of releasing the 2.2 update stateside ? Is it the us based carriers that are adding to it to be able lock the phones down and change things around on it..or Samsung ?
I can understand where folks are saying Android is fragmented if the carriers are causing this, but I don't understand why there can't be unified coding across all manufacturers lines when it comes to the os of Android.After all isn't it based off of ASOP and Linux and isn't that supposed to be all open source..? I do understand the differences in the various hardware requirements between all of the Android phones..but the core os should be the same shouldn't it ? So...who is at fault..the carriers..or Samsung..or both ? Who is really causing the delays..? Who is going to make the determination if any future development happens..the carriers or Samsung ?
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mymansionisabox said:
Motorola is on top of this.
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ROFL. Motorola is on top of nothing. Bottom maybe with VZW on top. If not for VZW, I don't know that Motorola would EVER push out updates. Just look at what they did with the cliq/backflip/dext/cliqxt/devour... it took FOREVER, and most parts of the world aren't even officially getting it (2.1).

Probably buying HTC from now on. They get cyanogen and sense, and somewhat timely updates
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Flash one of the great leaked 2.2 ROMs......problem solved. A Gingerbread based custom ROM will likely follow at some point.

Personally I do not even believe we will see a official release of 2.2 much less 2.3. Unlikely that we will ever see a GPS fix either at&t has their handsfull with the new windows phone. I also think that at&t is to blame.
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larmor19 said:
Personally I do not even believe we will see a official release of 2.2 much less 2.3.
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And why don't you believe 2.2 will be released? Do you know that the Android developers for AT&T aren't the same ones that work on the Windows phone?

tbong777 said:
Flash one of the great leaked 2.2 ROMs......problem solved. A Gingerbread based custom ROM will likely follow at some point.
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It will be difficult without source from SAMSUNG
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larmor19 said:
Personally I do not even believe we will see a official release of 2.2 much less 2.3. Unlikely that we will ever see a GPS fix either at&t has their handsfull with the new windows phone. I also think that at&t is to blame.
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Hmmm... obviously, Samsung is working on a 2.2 release. We have already gotten two leaked builds. The official release will be coming. Now with regards to 2.3. I don't think it's going to happen. It seems as though Samsung is focusing their efforts to push new products rather than support old ones.

"Old Ones?" this phone isnt even 6 months old yet and it'll be obsolete soon. if not for the geniuses here at XDA it would already be obsolete. i love my captivate but i think its getting ready to get left in the dust. hope i get proven wrong though.

Left in the dust? How so? 2.3. Is not even out yet. At least we have leaked versions of froyo...which will still be better then an official one. All we need is the source. The devs can handle the rest from there otherwise the devs spend there time unlocking all the crap that Samsung and att locked down
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This is what I don't like about Android (well not Android itself, but the Android market)...while N1 owners will be playing with 2.3 I will be stuck with 2.1.
F Samsung/Motorola whoever and their heavily modified ROMS. I don't need your Touchwiz/MotoBLUR/etc...just give me the stock ROM so that you save yourself the headache of upgrading and us too.

Samsung originally released their 2.2 back in late September/October to Europe - then was promptly pulled due to it being complete junk.
Now they are re-distributing it this month with a probably still junk release of 2.2. They screwed up so bad due to all the crap they half-assed into these phones (touchwiz, rfs file system etc...)
Samsung really needs to re-evaluate their development team and decide if they are going to be serious about the software side or farm it out to a third party that can program. Because.... their development department is probably the worst out there when it comes to android development.
I mean... there are probably Kirf teams in China that can code better!
Lazy.. no, greedy and not caring about the consumer and not taking pride the end result? Sure I can go with that.

PixelPerfect3 said:
This is what I don't like about Android (well not Android itself, but the Android market)...while N1 owners will be playing with 2.3 I will be stuck with 2.1.
F Samsung/Motorola whoever and their heavily modified ROMS. I don't need your Touchwiz/MotoBLUR/etc...just give me the stock ROM so that you save yourself the headache of upgrading and us too.
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This exactly.
Android is supposed to be this huge open source project, and while we can root and mod and flash all we like, we should also have the option of just being able to go to google and get the newest version ourselves.
The fact that not only the carriers (which is to be expected) but the manufacturers feel the need to bloat up the software is frustrating and annoying!

Honeycomb sdk preview port for desire hd works on inspire too

I got sick of youtubing honeycomb videos and decided to try out the desire hd honeycomb sdk port - guess what? It workes on inspire too. At least it works as well as it does on desire
I found a working link to the rom http://www.r2doesinc.bitsurge.net/OMHC-port-desirehd.zip
Here is the desire hd thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958391
Be sure to have your copy of android revolution / cm7 / whatever on your sd card for reverting to it when you're done. (volume rocker down and power to get back to recovery) This rom has no data access. But it's a neat way to check out the ui for now. It runs surprisingly fast considering it's origins.
I just wanted to stick this where more inspire users might see it and confirm that it works, I am not the developer.

I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.

helushune said:
I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.
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Why not? That is the true question.

helushune said:
I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.
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Try it out the interface is wonderful maybe then you'll see

randomblame said:
Try it out the interface is wonderful maybe then you'll see
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Still, doesn't make any sense to me. Especially when they've made it fairly clear 3.x is for tablets, 2.x is for phones. A bigger number in front doesn't always mean it's better. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.

It's highly buggy. Have tried this on a few phones.
Maybe google will come out with a phone version and simply name it something else.
Honeycomb was written specifically for tablets. Not a lot of that is easily ported to any phone.
Read xoom forums. Even it has its issues.
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helushune said:
Still, doesn't make any sense to me. Especially when they've made it fairly clear 3.x is for tablets, 2.x is for phones. A bigger number in front doesn't always mean it's better. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.
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We do it to do it... to say we done it... to prove we can do it... plan simple and to the point

symonc said:
It's highly buggy. Have tried this on a few phones.
Maybe google will come out with a phone version and simply name it something else.
Honeycomb was written specifically for tablets. Not a lot of that is easily ported to any phone.
Read xoom forums. Even it has its issues.
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ummm isn't 2.4 Honeycomb for phones? thought i seen that somewhere.and 3.0 is for tablets specifically

wade7919 said:
ummm isn't 2.4 Honeycomb for phones? thought i seen that somewhere.and 3.0 is for tablets specifically
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2.4 is Gingerbread.
With
Dual core support and hopefully some bug fixes.
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im with the why not crowd.. but i would think problems would arrise from the fact that the tablet has higher pixel count and surface area. But ill prolly try this out before tomuch longer.. maybe someone will make a custom rom to runn better on the phones.. Overclock the cpu and it would help with processing what is supposed to run on 2 cores.. but then again you got the extra gpu cores that he nividia chipset uses.. Sooo.. but on tiger and newegg you can get a low priced nividia powered tablets for 300 to 349. not that much money if you can save up and skip the bar for a month.

sprhr0 said:
im with the why not crowd.. but i would think problems would arrise from the fact that the tablet has higher pixel count and surface area. But ill prolly try this out before tomuch longer.. maybe someone will make a custom rom to runn better on the phones.. Overclock the cpu and it would help with processing what is supposed to run on 2 cores.. but then again you got the extra gpu cores that he nividia chipset uses.. Sooo.. but on tiger and newegg you can get a low priced nividia powered tablets for 300 to 349. not that much money if you can save up and skip the bar for a month.
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Honestly, I'd just grab a ViewSonic G-Tablet and wait for a port. Woot's tempted me a few times now with dropping them down to $260.

helushune said:
Honestly, I'd just grab a ViewSonic G-Tablet and wait for a port. Woot's tempted me a few times now with dropping them down to $260.
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That's what I did.
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I'll give it a shot...THanks!!!

Ice Cream Sandwich (still not used to the new name) will be the honeycomb+gingerbread mash up for phones. But seriously this is XDA we can do anything. If we had source code there would be honeycomb phone roms popping up left and right with phone apps pulled from gingerbread. The size of the interface can be scaled for lower resolution phones. It can work. For those of us with wives that cant go out and spend money on a tablet without first spending more money on jewelry to bribe with - this rom is a neat way to peek at the latest hotness.

Sense 4.0

Does anyone know if we will be getting a sense 4.0 port
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Officially no. Unofficially hell yea!!!

nowetdio said:
Officially no. Unofficially hell yea!!!
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This.
And do you mean ICS (Android 4.0) or SENSE 4.0?
In either case, I have a feeling the Thunderbolt will not be able to run so smoothly as a single core phone, but we'll see.

rajuabju said:
This.
And do you mean ICS (Android 4.0) or SENSE 4.0?
In either case, I have a feeling the Thunderbolt will not be able to run so smoothly as a single core phone, but we'll see.
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Do you really think it will be that bad? im running an alpha version and its a little glitchy, but I attributed that to the fact that its an alpha.

thoward93 said:
Do you really think it will be that bad? im running an alpha version and its a little glitchy, but I attributed that to the fact that its an alpha.
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I dont think its going to be THAT bad. But it's going to be slower than Sense 3.0 or Gingerbread for sure. More features, more CPU/RAM usage, etc..
I am confident the ROM masters around here will cut out all the bloat and crapware, and the Thunderbolt will be capable of running it smoothly enough to be a daily driver... but its still gonna be slower.

rajuabju said:
I dont think its going to be THAT bad. But it's going to be slower than Sense 3.0 or Gingerbread for sure. More features, more CPU/RAM usage, etc..
I am confident the ROM masters around here will cut out all the bloat and crapware, and the Thunderbolt will be capable of running it smoothly enough to be a daily driver... but its still gonna be slower.
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+1 on this post

When do they plan on releasing 4.0 for other phones?

Looks like the Sensation got a port of ICS... Sense version is 3.5 though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403859

rajuabju said:
I dont think its going to be THAT bad. But it's going to be slower than Sense 3.0 or Gingerbread for sure. More features, more CPU/RAM usage, etc..
I am confident the ROM masters around here will cut out all the bloat and crapware, and the Thunderbolt will be capable of running it smoothly enough to be a daily driver... but its still gonna be slower.
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Google has said any phone capable of running Gingerbread is capable of running ICS. With one core, but no overlays like sense, I wouldn't be surprised to see it run as smooth as the stock tbolt today. The Nexus S runs it pretty well, right?

cm9 on a skyrocket

does anyone know if/when an official build is coming?

mbucks911 said:
does anyone know if/when an official build is coming?
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Not until after the exynos gs II. I'm guessing April or May at the very very earliest.
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not until official ics and we will have cm9. I am sure slayher will be working on cm9 for t989 so we can just flash that with our cm9 kernel.

Since one of the major hurdles for porting CM9 to our and other devices is the closed source nature of certain drivers and the fact ICS hasn't been ported to our chipset, we will have to wait until an official build is released that contains the same or similar hardware. Touchpad CM9 is dealing with the same issue for camera and hardware video accel. at the moment.

ya kinda guessed that. i know xboarder and some other devs are working on just getting ics on the thing. i might be able to get a cm7 or aosp gingerbread kernal goin but i will have to see how busy i am. just wanted to see if anyone had any "insider info"

i will be working on evervolv (aosp ics with a few tweaks)

Well we Da_G has cm7 Kernel and its really good ppl at t989 uses his kernel too. Since we don't have full source for cm7 its has couple bugs!!!!
mbucks911 said:
ya kinda guessed that. i know xboarder and some other devs are working on just getting ics on the thing. i might be able to get a cm7 or aosp gingerbread kernal goin but i will have to see how busy i am. just wanted to see if anyone had any "insider info"
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here is a quote from the man himself
Currently, you can compile CM9 for a small number of devices- notably the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Wi-Fi and T-Mobile versions), the HP Touchpad and Motorola Xoom. The next devices to show up will likely be a whole array of Samsung phones (Exynos chipset), with devices based on the Qualcomm MSM8660 and 7×30 chipsets to follow.
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog

Oh man I just installed CM9 alpha 2 on my Touchpad. It's sooooo freaking awesome. Need this for the skyrocket ASAP!
It's amazing how this plays 720p youtube flawlessly while WebOS lags.

C2Q said:
Oh man I just installed CM9 alpha 2 on my Touchpad. It's sooooo freaking awesome. Need this for the skyrocket ASAP!
It's amazing how this plays 720p youtube flawlessly while WebOS lags.
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cool story.

mbucks911 said:
does anyone know if/when an official build is coming?
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It's never coming, now don't create any more threads regarding this.
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kr3w1337 said:
It's never coming, now don't create any more threads regarding this.
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Been working on that one for a month I see

Android 2.2 update?

I was wondering if I can update from froyo 2.2 too 2.3 or higher on the sidkick 4g... will switching roms do that or is there a update that I need to flash. Cuz I have apps that have featuers that require 2.3 or higher.
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Nope. We only have 2.2.

sucks
so there is not even a way to trick the apps into thinking it is 2.3 in order to use all the feathers. like on skype you cant use the front camera without 2.3 or higher

Jax184 said:
Nope. We only have 2.2.
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And I think it shall always be stuck on 2.2. Samsung is just making too much profit with the Galaxy S phones to even bother with this Frankenstein of a mediocre phone. I have a Sidekick and I'm using the Clean Fusion v3 rom, which is nice, but it is depressing to know that the company just brushed this phone under the rug.
The specs are not that bbad at all. It comes very close to the features found on the Nexus S. Gingerbread would open up so many possibilities with CyanogenMod and MIUI. I'm tired of theming Froyo... but that's all we got.