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Thunderbolt died

Got my replacement today which is going back tomorrow because its a poorly refurbished unit. The phone just died and would not power on anymore. I tried several batteries and same result no power. This is gonna be thunderbolt #4 im recieving tomorrow. Im losing faith in them and will be picking up a droid charge when it drops.
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sounds like pretty terrible luck. what were you doing when your other 3 TBs died on you? which roms/kernels were you running? OCd?

The first one gps and reception issues. The second one is the one that died. Im on the third one right now which is beatup and poorly refurbed. Number 4 is on its way and ill recieve it tomorrow.
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R.I.P. Thunderbolt

Z51 said:
The first one gps and reception issues. The second one is the one that died. Im on the third one right now which is beatup and poorly refurbed. Number 4 is on its way and ill recieve it tomorrow.
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What Rom/Kernel were you running when they died, were you OC'ing? What do you mean by beatup and poorly refurbished?

GPS and reception issues...I had that recently. Network network network.

Z51 said:
The first one gps and reception issues. The second one is the one that died. Im on the third one right now which is beatup and poorly refurbed. Number 4 is on its way and ill recieve it tomorrow.
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Yeah, once you get into the refurbished devices your screwed...those are basically all the devices that have already been broken...

magicriggs said:
GPS and reception issues...I had that recently. Network network network.
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GPS issues have nothing to do with the network, it's one way communication from GPS satellite to phone...It's a pretty widespread Thunderbolt issue though. The only problem I've had with it is an excessively long GPS lock time.
I think the TB is a great device, but the GPS issues are most likely HTC's fault, antenna design issue.

turbosrrgood said:
GPS issues have nothing to do with the network, it's one way communication from ...
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True, but if he has location check marked to use VZW then that would be the issue affecting the GPS.

turbosrrgood said:
GPS issues have nothing to do with the network, it's one way communication from GPS satellite to phone...It's a pretty widespread Thunderbolt issue though. The only problem I've had with it is an excessively long GPS lock time.
I think the TB is a great device, but the GPS issues are most likely HTC's fault, antenna design issue.
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GPS Status app totally resolved my slow GPS lock issues.

magicriggs said:
True, but if he has location check marked to use VZW then that would be the issue affecting the GPS.
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I guess I am not sure what GPS issue you are referring to. If a user goes into maps or navigation with GPS enabled, it is purely searching for a GPS lock via satellite signals, whether the VZW box is checked or not. Verizon's network location, and a GPS lock are completely separate and unrelated.
The fact that the GPS status and toolbox fixes these issues is more proof of that.

Z51 said:
Got my replacement today which is going back tomorrow because its a poorly refurbished unit.
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Thought maybe my Thunderbolt was the only poorly refurbished phone. My replacement came beat up. Like new alright...
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Z51 said:
Got my replacement today which is going back tomorrow because its a poorly refurbished unit. The phone just died and would not power on anymore. I tried several batteries and same result no power. This is gonna be thunderbolt #4 im recieving tomorrow. Im losing faith in them and will be picking up a droid charge when it drops.
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Good luck with that man... I work at VZW store and we have several Charges here and I can in all honesty say that it is a giant piece of ****. It's a fascinate with a bigger screen and that's it. Still has RFS which is crap and the phone lags like molasses uphill on a cold winter day.
I personally would sooner get stuck with a phone that I have to replace a couple of times to get a decent one then get stuck with a "perfect" one of those for two years.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck though, how did you happen to go through so many TBolts?

DigitalDementia said:
Good luck with that man... I work at VZW store and we have several Charges here and I can in all honesty say that it is a giant piece of ****. It's a fascinate with a bigger screen and that's it. Still has RFS which is crap and the phone lags like molasses uphill on a cold winter day.
I personally would sooner get stuck with a phone that I have to replace a couple of times to get a decent one then get stuck with a "perfect" one of those for two years.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck though, how did you happen to go through so many TBolts?
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Interesting opinion on the Charge...I know that personally I feel the phone just looks ridiculous, with the pointy bottom. And it's expensive. Might as well wait until a decent dual core device comes out.

turbosrrgood said:
Interesting opinion on the Charge...I know that personally I feel the phone just looks ridiculous, with the pointy bottom. And it's expensive. Might as well wait until a decent dual core device comes out.
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Agreed. Phone is ugly as hell.

Would rather go through 10 thunderbolt replacements than trade this baby for a charge.
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tflogic said:
sounds like pretty terrible luck. what were you doing when your other 3 TBs died on you? which roms/kernels were you running? OCd?
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Bamf stripped with the kernel ir came with
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miketoasty said:
Would rather go through 10 thunderbolt replacements than trade this baby for a charge.
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Amen. 10chars

g00s3y said:
What Rom/Kernel were you running when they died, were you OC'ing? What do you mean by beatup and poorly refurbished?
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Look at above post.
By poorly refurbed i mean the power button is sunk in. I have to press it hard. The bottom has scratches and so does the screen. It had loose screws i personally tightened up and a battery pin was bent. Like new my ass. I complained my ass off with verizon and they sent me a newone. I told them if its refurbed i don't want it. and I would be canceling Verizon due to its crappy network. I had t Mobile for five years not a single dropped call
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turbosrrgood said:
Yeah, once you get into the refurbished devices your screwed...those are basically all the devices that have already been broken...
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Yup. Some one else's problem becomes yours. This phone is ridiculous
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Problems i have with the sensesation

1. Coming from my mytouch 4g running sense 3.0 the sensation is a bit more laggy
2. Data has random dropped out issues
3. Wifi has terrible drops in and out
4. Screen does not seem as durable as my preivous HTC devices had it for 20 hours been babying it and has a scratch
5.battery life is horrible but that is to be expected
I have owned all HTC since g2 and never have I had this many issues thinking of returning it to t-mo and getting my money back any idea's
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One more thing I noticed is that the touch screen wants to b lagggy kind of like the hd2 was when it first ran android
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If your having so many issues exchange it.
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infrared_guy said:
1. Coming from my mytouch 4g running sense 3.0 the sensation is a bit more laggy
2. Data has random dropped out issues
3. Wifi has terrible drops in and out
4. Screen does not seem as durable as my preivous HTC devices had it for 20 hours been babying it and has a scratch
5.battery life is horrible but that is to be expected
I have owned all HTC since g2 and never have I had this many issues thinking of returning it to t-mo and getting my money back any idea's
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What did you take a diamond across the screen? The thing is Gorilla Glass and it's doubtful you were babying the screen and got a scratch.

Never had those problems
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Working great!
I can say after owning it for only 24 hours so far it is a blast. I haven't had any problems. There was one instance where the data stalled, but it hasn't lagged or reboot, or even heat up since I have had it on. Been running great for me!

My sensation runs great lol glad I didn't get a dud get a replacement and if that don't work maybe u just expecting something that this phone can't give you goodluck but ill send back asap if I was you

ark2612 said:
What did you take a diamond across the screen? The thing is Gorilla Glass and it's doubtful you were babying the screen and got a scratch.
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It only takes one grain of sand ( quartz ) in your pocket to scratch it. More of an unlucky thing than a failure of the gorilla glass .

None of those problems here.
Wifi calling works great.
I like Sense UI except for a few small things like accuweather db bull****
Browsing is nice and fast.
Trying to figure out how to get the stock car home to install.
My power button is too loose and will sit crooked sometimes. If I can get them to send me a replacement before receiving this one I may change it out.

I think ill take the advice and exchange I'm in a 4g area with full bars and it took like 3 mins to log onto xda. Thank u all for your comments
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Don't get it from walmart...
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infrared_guy said:
I think ill take the advice and exchange I'm in a 4g area with full bars and it took like 3 mins to log onto xda. Thank u all for your comments
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The data lag that you're referring to is an issue. Exchanging your phone will not resolve it. I found a fix (at least it works for the most part) that I posted in the developer section. As for the other problems you named, I'm not having any of those issues.

Got a Problem with watching divx movies... After a few minutes sound is gone ... This is my second sensation with the same problem can anyone help me?
After killing video player and start again sound works but turns off again after some time

Yo you saying that is wierd because my first sensation came from Walmart and it had every bug imaginable, got one from tmobile yesterday and its running like Bugati!!! Walmart be running some shady business tactics. $148.88 is in place for a reason. Real talk.
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I thought I was the only person that had the crocked power button. Everything else is fine except the speaker rattles when playing music loud and with bass and that's pretty much and it heats up when charging and using it.
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polo045 said:
Yo you saying that is wierd because my first sensation came from Walmart and it had every bug imaginable, got one from tmobile yesterday and its running like Bugati!!! Walmart be running some shady business tactics. $148.88 is in place for a reason. Real talk.
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I had the exact opposite happen, I'd recommend Walmart over Tmobile. Why would you want to pay the full retail price tax instead of the Walmart price of 148.00? just sayin...

got mine from walmart and dont have any issues really

I cant play back video i take and no one here is helping me .. I habe my own thread amd have no help , im on my second one and its still doing it, can anyone here help please??
Heres the link ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122926

I just exchanged my sensasation For a new one. as soon as it booted up I noticed all of the difference holy crap this phone rocks I was only getting like 1500 on quadrant on my old one but this one is pumping out 2100. thanks for all of the advice I also got a screen protector
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polo045 said:
Yo you saying that is wierd because my first sensation came from Walmart and it had every bug imaginable, got one from tmobile yesterday and its running like Bugati!!! Walmart be running some shady business tactics. $148.88 is in place for a reason. Real talk.
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I despise walmart but I found humor in what you wrote. So you're saying that Walmart opens the devices and fudges them up, then sends them out "all whack yo"? You don't think it's more likely that it was just a bad device? The real reason why wally world can sell them so cheap is because it's bait to get you inside the store. Once inside, you're likely to do your shopping there and hence Walmart turns a profit. Most of these other retailers sell it at almost cost and make their money on screen protectors, and cases.

Tbolt creak/click

Does anyone elses tbolt click a little when pushing on the sides of the phone, the edge around the screen? Mine clicks and creaks like its sticking to glue or something but not staying stuck... should i exchange it?

Do you have the extended battery?

no phones stock i just got it yesterday, hasnt been droped bumped anything, and it creaks if i press down on the screen when its laying flat on a desk.

Mine does that right around the volume rocker. I'm not worrying about that or the slight light leak from the bottom. It's not rebooting itself, so I'll see how it goes.

Yes, exchange it!! I just went through that with one. Sometimes it wouldn't do it, like when it was hot and when I tried to replicate the issue in the store I couldn't so they wouldn't give me a new one. Finally I put it back in the box for a day and it started popping again. It was like the screen was loose or something.
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My phone creaked with extended battery then i got the extended battery case and creaks went away might have to do with tighten fit
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Seems like the tbolt has major software and few hardware issues. I'm glad I got the Mytouch 4G instead.
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TangBaby said:
Seems like the tbolt has major software and few hardware issues. I'm glad I got the Mytouch 4G instead.
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How does that help the OP? Or did you just want to do a MyTouch 4G ad? Lol Before you go blowing MyTouch's horn, check this out...http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/05/t-mobile-mytouch-4g-review/.
My Thunderbolt only creaked when I bought the extended case. Exchanged it for another one and it stopped creaking. Three days later it was creaking again. If I put my regular case back on, no creaking! I've learned to put up with it.

TangBaby said:
Seems like the tbolt has major software and few hardware issues. I'm glad I got the Mytouch 4G instead.
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So am I......
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Pzyborg said:
How does that help the OP? Or did you just want to do a MyTouch 4G ad? Lol Before you go blowing MyTouch's horn, check this out...http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/05/t-mobile-mytouch-4g-review/.
My Thunderbolt only creaked when I bought the extended case. Exchanged it for another one and it stopped creaking. Three days later it was creaking again. If I put my regular case back on, no creaking! I've learned to put up with it.
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LOL that phone has its own set of problems.
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Oh, Man - tMobile would be great! I mean, unlimited pretend 4G throttled after 2GB each month? Frickin awesome!

Thanks for the input, im going to head into the verizon store when i have time on monday. I can easily replicate it because it does it i would say 90% of the time, and even if i cant replicate the screen part, the edges all around the screen do it constantly. I got a lemon

mdunn1066 said:
Thanks for the input, im going to head into the verizon store when i have time on monday. I can easily replicate it because it does it i would say 90% of the time, and even if i cant replicate the screen part, the edges all around the screen do it constantly. I got a lemon
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Wouldn't hurt to show it to them. My thing is just that there seem to be a lot of phones with rebooting issues that I don't think they are exchanging, asking customers to wait for the update that is supposed to fix it...
Just tried mine again and now it isn't clicking...
Maybe make sure your battery cover is properly on all the way around. HTC really could make better battery covers.

Htc Sensation touch screen issues have stopped for the time being.

Okay so I was having all kinds of touch screen issues,with the lock screen and in general the display wasn't recognizing swipes and was constantly opening Widgets and apps on the home screens.So I went to do a warranty exchange and took off my Tpu blue argyle case and after a reboot everything went back to normal so just thought I would post(even though this probably won't help anyone)there is a chance that it might.Please post your responses whether this helps or not and if your phone has been naked all it's life and still having problems.I usually always have my phone naked in a Nexus one pouch as I bought a bunch of them and like the protection they offer.
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platinumandroid said:
Okay so I was having all kinds of touch screen issues,with the lock screen and in general the display wasn't recognizing swipes and was constantly opening Widgets and apps on the home screens.So I went to do a warranty exchange and took off my Tpu blue argyle case and after a reboot everything went back to normal so just thought I would post(even though this probably won't help anyone)there is a chance that it might.Please post your responses whether this helps or not and if your phone has been naked all it's life and still having problems.I usually always have my phone naked in a Nexus one pouch as I bought a bunch of them and like the protection they offer.
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Thanks for contribution, but this is NOT a fix, trust me. Not for most people anyway.

Your a little to late to the dance my friend. This has been said multiple times over the past 6 weeks. Works for some and not for others. A lot of people also report that after a while, the problems come back whether the case is on or not.
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Right on no biggie,that's why in my post I said this most likely wouldn't help anyone I just wanted to know if anyone else noticed a difference and if it came back,and like you said it does so thanks.I just thought it was odd that a case was causing problems,I was also having wifi problems and since I took the case off those too have been resolved so I guess I have to wait and seen if there is a direct correlation or couincidence as I didn't have any issues pre case.
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platinumandroid said:
Right on no biggie,that's why in my post I said this most likely wouldn't help anyone I just wanted to know if anyone else noticed a difference and if it came back,and like you said it does so thanks.I just thought it was odd that a case was causing problems,I was also having wifi problems and since I took the case off those too have been resolved so I guess I have to wait and seen if there is a direct correlation or couincidence as I didn't have any issues pre case.
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The case is blocking some of the WiFi signal. I know its not much but a piece of rubber is enough to **** up a already weak signal.
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I owned 2 sensations and both of them i returned for that same problem.
No matter how many resets or messing around with settings the screen woldnt register my touch after about a week and a half.
Im going for the mytouch 4g slide now and pray it works fine lol

I no longer have the problem after removing bloat ware and putting on a screen protector. Not sure which one fixed the problem. Try both!

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The case is blocking some of the WiFi signal. I know its not much but a piece of rubber is enough to **** up a already weak signal.
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Dude you don't have to be so hostile,if your having a bad day I am sorry,I noticed your a Firefighter and want to say that you for the job you do.I in no way meant for my post to be provocative and irritate anyone.
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platinumandroid said:
Dude you don't have to be so hostile,if your having a bad day I am sorry,I noticed your a Firefighter and want to say that you for the job you do.I in no way meant for my post to be provocative and irritate anyone.
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Uh? I am in no way bei g hostile at all and am very sorry if my post looked like I was. I was just saying that a lot of people are complaining about weak wifi signal and that a rubber case is thick enough to weaken the signal more. Sorry again man but I really was just giving you some info.
Ask anyone who knows me. If I am bei g hostile, trust me, you'll know it.
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jrwingate6 said:
Uh? I am in no way bei g hostile at all and am very sorry if my post looked like I was. I was just saying that a lot of people are complaining about weak wifi signal and that a rubber case is thick enough to weaken the signal more. Sorry again man but I really was just giving you some info.
Ask anyone who knows me. If I am bei g hostile, trust me, you'll know it.
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Right on,thanks for the apology and I appreciate the info,your right it's common sense and it's just I have read of sooo many people complaining about this phone (death grip,poor wifi,touch screen issues,random reboots)and I hadn't experienced any of them until last week when I bought a case and for the last week I have had problems until today and when I took of the case off presto all MY problems disappeared.Which is odd since my wife has a similar case and has used it since launch and never had any issues.I just normally never use a case with any of my devices and haven't for a few years.
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Touchscreen problems start when you use the phone while on charge. Go to my thread, and read a bit.
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tinky1 said:
Touchscreen problems start when you use the phone while on charge. Go to my thread, and read a bit.
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I haven't seen this at all and I use the phone while charging all the time although I don't use the stock charger,I use my Nexus One wall charger due to the sweet length on it.
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There's some things I would do if I were you just for precaution.
1. Turn "Tell HTC" off. Its a setting under "About Phone". A lot of people have reported improved touch sensitivity and speed.
2. Take your battery out and keep it out over night.
Those two things seem to be fixing the issues the most.
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I encountered the laggy unlock ring problem about 2 weeks after I got the phone. It lasted about a week and then went away. I haven't had any problems for almost a month now. I've never put a case on my phone, but I did disable all HTC syncs and disabled most HTC and Tmobile apps.

Phone getting very warm

Hello I just got my gs4 on Saturday and I have to say that im not as impressed as I thought I would be.
The phone gets quite hot during almost anything. Also is no where near as snappy as my rooted inspire (1.0 ghz single core with less than 1 gb ram). This phone is awesome as far as opening more draining apps like facebook.
I wouldn't think that rooting is needed to be quicker than a 2.5 year old phone...
At this point im considering trading it in for a gs3 or htc one....
And mine is definitely laggy
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schinner16 said:
Hello I just got my gs4 on Saturday and I have to say that im not as impressed as I thought I would be.
The phone gets quite hot during almost anything. Also is no where near as snappy as my rooted inspire (1.0 ghz single core with less than 1 gb ram). This phone is awesome as far as opening more draining apps like facebook.
I wouldn't think that rooting is needed to be quicker than a 2.5 year old phone...
At this point im considering trading it in for a gs3 or htc one....
And mine is definitely laggy
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If it's getting very hot with little usage then I'd exchange it for another.
Also, an update was released today that pretty much solved the lag issues..

Mine got pretty warm last night while playing a simple solitaire game...
It was also eating battery pretty fast.
I rebooted it and it seemed to go away.

schinner16 said:
Hello I just got my gs4 on Saturday and I have to say that im not as impressed as I thought I would be.
The phone gets quite hot during almost anything. Also is no where near as snappy as my rooted inspire (1.0 ghz single core with less than 1 gb ram). This phone is awesome as far as opening more draining apps like facebook.
I wouldn't think that rooting is needed to be quicker than a 2.5 year old phone...
At this point im considering trading it in for a gs3 or htc one....
And mine is definitely laggy
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Are there any services or apps that is causing the CPU/Stay Awake to drain your battery?
My first G4 was horrible laggy as well, but my new one is a dream. See this thread.
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Thanks for the input guys Ive got a few more days so ill continue to run it. I just got the update so ill let you know if things change.
It does seem better as of right now but ill try it for a while.
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Well the update seems to have helped greatly...or im starting to get used to the heat. I haven't really used a smartphone with out a case really.
Is there anyways to get auto correct working with this keyboard?
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schinner16 said:
Well the update seems to have helped greatly...or im starting to get used to the heat. I haven't really used a smartphone with out a case really.
Is there anyways to get auto correct working with this keyboard?
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Go to the play store - download the stock jelly bean keyboard - it's awesome. EFF samsung.

Mine gets hot a lot too. . I'm going to keep my eye on this even after update.
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akira02rex said:
Go to the play store - download the stock jelly bean keyboard - it's awesome. EFF samsung.
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Which one there are a ton and none of them seem to be legit.
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Which one there are a ton and none of them seem to be legit.
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Just search for jelly bean keyboard and it should be the first one.

mine gets stupid hot for the smallest things I surf the web for about five mins and you cant even put up to your ear to make a call TO HOT.. I returned it and got it exchanged and that device is also getting way to hot. I might just return the GS4 seems like a big issue out there I googled the problem and see that most people are having the issue. IDK 7 more days and I.m stuck with it... any other phone would be a downgrade.

bori1030 said:
mine gets stupid hot for the smallest things I surf the web for about five mins and you cant even put up to your ear to make a call TO HOT.. I returned it and got it exchanged and that device is also getting way to hot. I might just return the GS4 seems like a big issue out there I googled the problem and see that most people are having the issue. IDK 7 more days and I.m stuck with it... any other phone would be a downgrade.
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There is probably something wrong with your phone and the next one. Bad luck I guess. It never gets hot on normal use for me. The only time it gets hot for me is when playing high end games.

bori1030 said:
mine gets stupid hot for the smallest things I surf the web for about five mins and you cant even put up to your ear to make a call TO HOT.. I returned it and got it exchanged and that device is also getting way to hot. I might just return the GS4 seems like a big issue out there I googled the problem and see that most people are having the issue. IDK 7 more days and I.m stuck with it... any other phone would be a downgrade.
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Just get a note 2 trust me it will be an upgrade over this phone.
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Please post the CPU/Stay Awake statistics for some of your higher battery drain apps at the end of the day

sabre31 said:
Just get a note 2 trust me it will be an upgrade over this phone.
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Unless you dont mind being mocked for talking on a tablet I would avoid any phone larger than the s4. The note two has its place and it to me is only worthwhile if you carry a purse.... it's a great device but not practical in my opinion, I mean how do you carry that thing?
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In my pocket never had an issue fits perfectly. As far as what others think about it don't matter to me.
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sabre31 said:
In my pocket never had an issue fits perfectly. As far as what others think about it don't matter to me.
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I wish I wasnt as affected but I hate when ppl comment on how large my phone is...and I think its because I agree and wish it was smaller. A 4.5 or so with the the same build as this s4 would be mich nicer. And by that I mean a screen that efficiently uses the face of the phone.
Its really tough to determine what is the he perfect size screen and I think over time we will become more tolerant of the pocket consumption. I mean look at the inspire or other older 4.2...it was huge for its time but now its really not considered that anymore.
With that said for the time being I think 4.5 with the smallest possible chassis would be the best.
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all recent device getting hot quickly in 3G network

finnbass759 said:
all recent device getting hot quickly in 3G network
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Not mine. I am in LTE or 3G all day and my phone does not get hot in the least.