Didn't know if anyone here on T-Mobile US has tried the EU Sensation but I received mine today, and so far everything is quite nice. Phone feels solid and has a good weight to it. I tried out the speed test and..... I got similar speeds to my G2x. =D Now all I'm missing is wifi calling.
If you want me to try anything let me know. I'll post pictures later after I get back.
Cheeze[iT] said:
Didn't know if anyone here on T-Mobile US has tried the EU Sensation but I received mine today, and so far everything is quite nice. Phone feels solid and has a good weight to it. I tried out the speed test and..... I got similar speeds to my G2x. =D Now all I'm missing is wifi calling.
If you want me to try anything let me know. I'll post pictures later after I get back.
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4g speeds? What max speeds are you getting in BigD?
Cheeze[iT] said:
Didn't know if anyone here on T-Mobile US has tried the EU Sensation but I received mine today, and so far everything is quite nice. Phone feels solid and has a good weight to it. I tried out the speed test and..... I got similar speeds to my G2x. =D Now all I'm missing is wifi calling.
If you want me to try anything let me know. I'll post pictures later after I get back.
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How much did you pay for it? And did it come with a EU wall charger?
Cheeze[iT] said:
Didn't know if anyone here on T-Mobile US has tried the EU Sensation but I received mine today, and so far everything is quite nice. Phone feels solid and has a good weight to it. I tried out the speed test and..... I got similar speeds to my G2x. =D Now all I'm missing is wifi calling.
If you want me to try anything let me know. I'll post pictures later after I get back.
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Any GPS testing results would be greatly appreciated.
Cheeze[iT] said:
Didn't know if anyone here on T-Mobile US has tried the EU Sensation but I received mine today, and so far everything is quite nice. Phone feels solid and has a good weight to it. I tried out the speed test and..... I got similar speeds to my G2x. =D Now all I'm missing is wifi calling.
If you want me to try anything let me know. I'll post pictures later after I get back.
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Can you try testing the BT & WiFi degradation claims on GSMarena when held flat in the hand...
Also, if you don't mind, where did you purchase?
I also will get mine today.
Can't wait this evening..lol!! Will inform how its feeling later..stay tune!!
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4g speeds? What max speeds are you getting in BigD?
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700 kB/s is what I hit on average
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How much did you pay for it? And did it come with a EU wall charger?
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$675 and yes but they gave me the adapter.
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Can you try testing the BT & WiFi degradation claims on GSMarena when held flat in the hand...
Also, if you don't mind, where did you purchase?
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I'll test that here soon and I got my device from networkingrus. Hes got a website and he's a eBay seller. I've purchased many devices through him and have had great service. Almost got a sgs 2 but decided to try this sensation before considering the switch to ATT
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So is the only difference between the US and UK versions the 4G radio?
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So is the only difference between the US and UK versions the 4G radio?
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There is no 4G radio on the US Sensation, it is just capable of 4G speeds (DL14.4/UL5.68)
Im not sure whether there is really difference even in the 3G frequencies, as the european model also supports AWS (1700mhz) in addition to 900/2100 frequencies used in Europe.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main difference is the marketing name and t-mobile branding.
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There is no 4G radio on the US Sensation, it is just capable of 4G speeds (DL14.4/UL5.68)
Im not sure whether there is really difference even in the 3G frequencies, as the european model also supports AWS (1700mhz) in addition to 900/2100 frequencies used in Europe.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main difference is the marketing name and t-mobile branding.
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So you can get 4G speeds on a device that is not outfitted with a 4G radio? I guess I have more to learn...
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Im not sure whether there is really difference even in the 3G frequencies, as the european model also supports AWS (1700mhz) in addition to 900/2100 frequencies used in Europe.
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Just want to let you know that AWS is actually 1700/2100. It uses one frequency for downlink, one for uplink.
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So you can get 4G speeds on a device that is not outfitted with a 4G radio? I guess I have more to learn...
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T-Mobile & AT&T (for now) actually dont have real 4G. They have what they call 4G speeds. It is the same as HSPA+ outside USA.
Both the Sensation & Sensation "4G" on HTC's website & T-mobiles website have the same Internet speeds:
Under Internet: HTC's website for the Sensation list speeds under 3G as Up to 14.4 Mbps download speed and up to 5.76 Mbps upload speed.
T-Mobile's website for the Sensation 4G lists the Internet spped for 4G as Up to 14.4 Mbps download speed and up to 5.76 Mbps upload speed.
http://www.htc.com/mea-en/product/sensation/specification.html
http://htc.t-mobile.com/sensation#Specs
EnhancerFIN said:
There is no 4G radio on the US Sensation, it is just capable of 4G speeds (DL14.4/UL5.68)
Im not sure whether there is really difference even in the 3G frequencies, as the european model also supports AWS (1700mhz) in addition to 900/2100 frequencies used in Europe.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main difference is the marketing name and t-mobile branding.
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Based on photo evidence posted in other threads there's an extra connector (antenna?) on the back cover of the TMO US version of the phone. So, the Euro and US models are different.
Cheeze[iT] said:
700 kB/s is what I hit on average
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So that's about a 5.6 Mb pipe. That's what I get with my HD2 on 3.5 G. Do you get an H+ or anything indicating T-Mobile's HSPA+ network? aka "4G"
naimmkassim said:
I also will get mine today.
Can't wait this evening..lol!! Will inform how its feeling later..stay tune!!
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First time reply using this amazing super duper fast monster beast!!..
Like the 3.0 sense and its speed!!
BUT!!! Why my sensation easy to heat up? Easily can reach up to 40C without me do nothing????
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Does it lag?
I haven't had any heat issues and my phone shows H.
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Based on photo evidence posted in other threads there's an extra connector (antenna?) on the back cover of the TMO US version of the phone. So, the Euro and US models are different.
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This is true, forgot to mention about it. It must be antenna for this 1700mhz frequency which isn't in use in Europe. This whole AWS thing is new to me, as in Europe we don't have such thing. Some wrote here on xda that he imported a euro-version of the phone to USA and it worked fine in t-mobiles network.
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So I'm one of the lucky ones who live in San Antonio and will be getting the true ATT 4G upgrade. Just wondering if the Inspire will be supported.
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Inspire cannot get LTE
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you'll have to wait for the holiday.... htc holiday, that is
Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
It doesn't have an lte radio, nor the software. A lot (not all) att reps have no idea what they are talking about.
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
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Yeah I knew the answer before I asked...just wanted to see what kind of response I would get....I even tried to push the issue...asking if they were positive and so on. In one case I got the manager involved, and I believe his exact words were "sir I can assure you, this phone is compatible with all of AT&T's future 4g networks"
I wonder if they actually believe that, or if corporate simply tell them to lie there a$$'s off......!
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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What. Where did you see this. i wanna lolololol
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Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Well sure, if you wanna get in there and solder in a chipset and scare up cobbled drivers, isn't any phone?
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Two things ...
1) ATT is lying - well sort of. They can get away with it because their definition of 4G is very broad. When they say LTE they actually mean HSDPA.
2) The folks in the store are indoctrinated by the company so they believe the Inspire is LTE as well.
I'd love to be proven wrong but unfortunately the Inspire is H+ only (HSDPA).
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Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
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Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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What part of it not having an lte radio is so hard to understand...it just doeant have one. Look at the specs on htc no where on that page does it say lte, then look at the thunderbolt oh wow under specs it lists lte.... What were you saying about us knowing more then developers? Apparently htc dosent even know their phone is lte capable. Really........
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Pretty sure its impossible. Our snapdragon chips don't have the capability to support true lte. I'm pretty sure the thunderbolts SoC is a little bit different(lte support)
tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Well, seeing that Geek Squad told my buddy that Bittorrent caused the demise of his <6 month old hard drive in his PC, I'm not sure how much I'll trust BestBuy's "official" info. kthxbai
alex4lex said:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
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The Desire HD does not have a front facing camera. The Inspire and DHD are almost exact clones. The only thing different is the logo on the back.
trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Actually, this is the official ATT page for the Inspire 4g.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...re+(TM)+4G*&q_sku=sku5100284#fbid=ZSGfIgw7m3E
If you scroll near the very bottom, Technical Specifications section, lower left corner it says, "4G* - HSPA+/LTE: HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul." No where does it say it is LTE compatible. Also, that little asterisk leads you to this, like someone mentioned earlier, "*4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. Requires 4G device and compatible data plan. Learn more at att.com/network."
Would be nice if that's possible, but it's not with this phone. But I'll have to wait 2 more years anyways to be able to upgrade again, haha.
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I make a habit of changing my phone every 2 years as a rule. By then maybe AT&T may have their LTE in par with Verizon. It really doesn't matter with my paltry 200mb account anyway, whether I use it with 1 to 2 megabit at a time or 9 to10 megabit at a time.
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
jun.seba said:
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Wait...and use the money that's obviously burning a hole in your pocket for more prudent things...such as contributing to your 401k...
Nah, but 4g is ok...I see it as a luxury, if you can afford it and you REALLY want it then sure. But whether or not it's worth is is as simple as thinking about how much you really value a few extra seconds between page loads. With bandwith caps, 4g isn't really all that attractive anymore honestly...
jun.seba said:
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Something else to think about, just because they launch LTE won't guarantee that they will have the backhaul to make it fast. Most, if not all, of Sprints WiMAX, Verizon's LTE is slower than 3G simply because they don't have the backhaul or capacity yet.
It took T-Mobile 2 more years after launching UMTS to get HSPA+ going. Food for thought.
hmm.....well put...thanks guys. will have a new Sensation tomorrow
With these prices... its not worth it.
$45 1.5 GB
$60 3 GB
$75 6 GB
$90 9 GB
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
navillos said:
What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
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I don't think that was called for.
Definitely not better than EDGE.
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jerrylzy said:
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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4g has no real standards. It's simply the 4th generation of wireless data.
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jerrylzy said:
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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What are you talking about? Did ANYONE in this thread say ANYTHING about T-Mobile and 4G?
Read the post before making idiot responses.
sensation is a solid phone, reminds me of my nexus one that I wish I never traded. Would probably still be using that, instead of the phone path I went through. Pricing of 4g isnt worth it, you can just get internet services at a home. My local carrier is rolling out "4g" and I'm priced for life at $14.99 unlimited text & data. I don't plan on leaving the carrier anytime soon, and my download speeds on average are 3-4mbps, high has been up to 8mbps.
Unless your in a big popular city where they will try to put out the LTE signal and support it I wouldnt worry about it. Everyone I know here (Dallas) on Sprint's 4g and Verizons has sporadic problems with signal and speeds. Its fast when its there but they dont get it much.
T-Mo US's may not be real 4G but they have good coverage (for me) with it and I love the phone so I personally wouldnt wait unless you get some good info on the quality of 4G in your area.
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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
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I see just the *slightest* overreaction here.
However, to answer the OP's question: Yes, 4G it's worth it to me. Accessing information no longer takes a brutally long time. I have fewer reasons to take a laptop most of to time. I can have long conversations with my girl or family while browsing these forums or the web in general.
I see download speeds anywhere from 3mbps to 11mbps depending on where I am at the time. This is more that fast enough for me to forget that I am not on Wifi. This is what I have always wanted using a smartphone to be like.
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What are you talking about? Did ANYONE in this thread say ANYTHING about T-Mobile and 4G?
Read the post before making idiot responses.
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T-Mobile's 4G is HSPA+,isn't it? I am not talking about LTE
HSPA+ is not 4g and neither is the current iteration of verizons LTE.
LTE is still faster than HSPA+ but it drains your battery. I have been getting amazing HSPA+speeds but its in very limited locations (downtown seattle only). 4G is worth it, be it real or fake its much faster than 3g but i kind of like HSPA+ cuz at least its not such a battery hog like LTE.
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T-Mobile's 4G is HSPA+,isn't it? I am not talking about LTE
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If your not talking about LTE, then why are you posting in this thread? Yes, T-mobile's network is HSPA+. No one is arguing that. What we do want to know, though, is why you mentioned it? The OP, who lives in Canada, was asking if it was worth getting the Sensation now (which won't be on a 4G network as it's not launched) or waiting for when they launch LTE (in Canada) and buy it on a 4G LTE network.
What does that have to do with T-Mobile NOT being a TRUE 4G network?
Maybe I read it wrong so,,,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Nope, he was talking about LTE 4G in Canada, NOT T-mobile 4G. Still do NOT understand the point of your comment.
EDIT: On a side note of true 4G. NO carrier in the WORLD can claim 4G as 4G is only classed as WiMAX II or LTE Advanced with speeds of 100Mbps. With that said, T-Mobile is not either of those technologies, but they are half way to the speeds which is about 4 times faster than anyone else in the world.
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If your not talking about LTE, then why are you posting in this thread? Yes, T-mobile's network is HSPA+. No one is arguing that. What we do want to know, though, is why you mentioned it? The OP, who lives in Canada, was asking if it was worth getting the Sensation now (which won't be on a 4G network as it's not launched) or waiting for when they launch LTE (in Canada) and buy it on a 4G LTE network.
What does that have to do with T-Mobile NOT being a TRUE 4G network?
Maybe I read it wrong so,,,
Nope, he was talking about LTE 4G in Canada, NOT T-mobile 4G. Still do NOT understand the point of your comment.
EDIT: On a side note of true 4G. NO carrier in the WORLD can claim 4G as 4G is only classed as WiMAX II or LTE Advanced with speeds of 100Mbps. With that said, T-Mobile is not either of those technologies, but they are half way to the speeds which is about 4 times faster than anyone else in the world.
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OK,calm down please. If I post wrong in this thread , please forgive me , i didn't look it carefully.Sorry.
r3awak3n said:
HSPA+ is not 4g and neither is the current iteration of verizons LTE.
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Not relevant to the OP but the ITU actually stated the term 4g may be applied to "LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed."
i DONT reccommend getting rogers 4G, purely for the excessive cost, shakey availability, and the fact that when they do actually launch, its going to be rife with problems...using 3g on my sensation is mroe than fast enough, and really, if you want fast data, just use home internet and access it with logmein from your fone...
i used to be with rogers, but the cost/bandwidth of data just didnt cut it for me...
Sorry for poor English.
I bought my asia phone in Singapore and i take it with me to US.My plan is prepaid $70, it has 5GB 4G data.But actually my phone didn't support 4G,even HSPA+,so i can't enjoy high speed.
I want to exchange my phone to T-Mobile Sensation 4G, and pay more $ 150 is ok, because i don't want to buy a second sensation. Is there a way to exchange it? If no, i won't go to T-Mobile's store because it is far away from my house..
I think some of you may ask me why not call to customer service,because my english is bad and they speak too fast for me to understand..
Thanks for your answer!
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If there is a way to enable HSPA+ on my Asia Sensation,I won't go to T-Mobile to exchange one
probably.. not u will have to open a new 2 year contract with them if u want it and thats $200.
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probably.. not u will have to open a new 2 year contract with them if u want it and thats $200.
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I will leave US in Sep.
So it is impossible to make a 2-year contract with them.I just want to give my Asia phone to T-Mobile and pay less money to get T-Mobile Sensation
I'm almost 99% sure your phone supports it. It has the AWS band. Just pop in the T-Mobile sim card and you're good to go.
Edit: it has the AWS band, so I'm 100% it will work: http://www.htc.com/asia/product/sensation/specification.html
aNYthing24 said:
I'm almost 99% sure your phone supports it. It has the AWS band. Just pop in the T-Mobile sim card and you're good to go.
Edit: it has the AWS band, so I'm 100% it will work: http://www.htc.com/asia/product/sensation/specification.html
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Never goes to HSPA+ just HSPA.And i noticed that 1.28.707.2's RADIO is 10.43.9007.00P_10.11.9007.19_M and in the newest 1.35.707.1 RADIO is 10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3.
U is HSPA+ disabled.So may be htc disable it?And T-Mobile's Sensation has one more antenna. I don't know what's it used for.
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Here is difference(All from htc's official website):
Asia:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
T-Mobile:
jerrylzy said:
Never goes to HSPA+ just HSPA.And i noticed that 1.28.707.2's RADIO is 10.43.9007.00P_10.11.9007.19_M and in the newest 1.35.707.1 RADIO is 10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3.
U is HSPA+ disabled.So may be htc disable it?And T-Mobile's Sensation has one more antenna. I don't know what's it used for.
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How do you know U means HSPA+ is disabled? And those pictures don't mean much because the Asian HTC page says it's capable of up to 14.4 Mbps down, the same as the US Sensation. There's also people in the US who have European/Asian Sensation's and I don't think they have a problem getting those speeds. What speeds are you getting?
You're allowed to breach contract if you go somewhere which won't have connection. So if you move in sept you can terminate plan. Not sure if you have to pay off the phone though
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aNYthing24 said:
How do you know U means HSPA+ is disabled? And those pictures don't mean much because the Asian HTC page says it's capable of up to 14.4 Mbps down, the same as the US Sensation. There's also people in the US who have European/Asian Sensation's and I don't think they have a problem getting those speeds. What speeds are you getting?
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Same location same SIM Card,T:down:11.6 Mbps up:3.3Mbps Asia: down:4.16Mbps up:1.77Mbps.I know they have the same max speed but actually T sensation is faster than mine.
And HSPA+ enabled
U HSPA+ disabled
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Same location same SIM Card,T:down:11.6 Mbps up:3.3Mbps Asia: down:4.16Mbps up:1.77Mbps.I know they have the same max speed but actually T sensation is faster than mine.
And HSPA+ enabled
U HSPA+ disabled
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Weird...is that one test or an average of a couple? That's really perplexing and I don't know why HTC would put that limitation on the Asian Sensation.
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Weird...is that one test or an average of a couple? That's really perplexing and I don't know why HTC would put that limitation on the Asian Sensation.
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All tested three times,these are all the best resualts.And i show you an e-mail from htc:
Thank you for your inquiry regarding HSPA+ support on your HTC Sensation device.
Jerry, my research shows your phone was manufactured for use in Southeast Asia. Unfortunately it does not support HSPA+.
We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.
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All tested three times,these are all the best resualts.And i show you an e-mail from htc:
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That sucks dude. Sorry for misleading you. I guess they capped it because the chip inside of the Sensation is definitely capable of 14.4 Mbps down.
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That sucks dude. Sorry for misleading you. I guess they capped it because the chip inside of the Sensation is definitely capable of 14.4 Mbps down.
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Thanks anyway
Ok that sucks alot is there any way to unlock it? Im using asia sensation and agree on that asia sensation are slow
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If you get 3G you're good to go on the high speed front.. you just aren't getting up as high as the 4G enabled Sensation. You are probably capped at 7.2HSPA which is still quick.
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You're allowed to breach contract if you go somewhere which won't have connection. So if you move in sept you can terminate plan. Not sure if you have to pay off the phone though
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They stopped doing this due to abuse. Nice going..
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If you get 3G you're good to go on the high speed front.. you just aren't getting up as high as the 4G enabled Sensation. You are probably capped at 7.2HSPA which is still quick.
They stopped doing this due to abuse. Nice going..
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Not as fast as Sensation 4G.May be T-Mobile capped their speed to non-T-Mobilr phones
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Ok that sucks alot is there any way to unlock it? Im using asia sensation and agree on that asia sensation are slow
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Yes it is slow.Sometimes even my dhd is faster.
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I think HTC just limited the phone's build.prop to only support 7.2HSPA. It's very easy to do that..
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I think HTC just limited the phone's build.prop to only support 7.2HSPA. It's very easy to do that..
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no,htc hasn't limited speed in Asia rom.
I will show you it is also 14.4Mbps
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=10
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Hardware-wise the phones are basically the same. HTC customer-service doesn't know anything beside the information listed on the web, don't trust them. A year ago I had a Canadian version of HTC Hero with 850/1900 3G bands. The HTC Canada website said that at that time the phone also support 900/2100 3G bands, but that wasn't the case as I have tested it. I emailed HTC Canada and was told that it supported, because the spec on the website said so. After a few email exchanges, the dude finally went to get information from the technical team and confirmed that the phone didn't support those band and modify the spec on the website.
In America, HSPA+ is called "4G", which is not the case in the rest of the world. So only in America the Sensation has "4G" in its name. But as a matter of fact, the hardware of the phone is the same as the Asian version. It wasn't listed as HSPA+ device on Singapore probably because HSPA+ wasn't as wide spread there or it wasn't launched with a carrier with HSPA+ network? I don't know. However, it more likely has to do with the fact that HSPA is sometimes mis-branded as HSPA+ in the US. See this article:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/04/att-t-mobile-dipping-hspa-4g-branding/
But don't waste time trying to get the US version, you won't see any practically difference in speed between HSPA and HSPA+. If in fact you do, it's probably have to do with t-mobile limiting your prepaid account rather than the hardware. I know AT&T does this. If you get a "4G" phone from AT&T, you have to tell them otherwise they won't let your account to get HSPA+ speed.
And btw, practically I haven't seen anyone with a supposedly HSPA+ device can even reach the speed of HSPA theoretical speed limit. Download a speedtest app and run some tests. Worry only if you see your speed is throttled at 14.4Mbps
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Same location same SIM Card,T:down:11.6 Mbps up:3.3Mbps Asia: down:4.16Mbps up:1.77Mbps.I know they have the same max speed but actually T sensation is faster than mine.
And HSPA+ enabled
U HSPA+ disabled
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Ok, I didn't read this post of yours. In any case, it's more likely that it's t-mobile doing something to limit the speed rather than HTC. It doesn't make sense for HTC to cripple the unlocked devices themselves. T-mobile may have restricted HSPA+ access to those phones that they sold (by recognizing their IMEIs).
Btw, where (physically) did you perform those tests? I'm a tmobile user, and my Sensation is having full bar with 4G, yet I'm only getting around 4-5Mbps.
Just on a lark, can you try going into the bootloader to see if it says S-OFF or S-ON? I think you have to disable Fast Boot, shut it down, then hold down the Vol-Down button while pressing power, until you get the white screen with Androids on skateboards.
If by some chance you got an S-OFF model you may be able to flash the T-Mo radio. Otherwise you'll have to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before you can try tinkering with it.
If you feel the need to get a T-Mo Sensation, you may be willing to find someone to swap so they can get the added benefit of a phone that doesn't have an unsightly T-Mo logo on it. Also you could sell your version to a CDN WIND or Mobilicity customer (since the AWS carriers here don't have HSPA+ speeds yet) and use the proceeds to buy someone else's used T-Mo version.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/att_lte_network_going_live_sunday
The cities included in this initial wave are Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. Although users in those metro areas will still have very few LTE devices to choose from. Unlike Verizon, which has multiple LTE handsets, AT&T has no phones compatible with the new network. AT&T launched a data stick and a portable hotspot for the LTE network last month. The carrier has also started selling a massively overpriced Android tablet, the HTC Jetstream.
sweet im in San Antonio for a little while, now for AT&T to get some phones for me to use !!!
Now if they could hurry up and increase the HSPA+ speeds. I'm still only getting 3.5mb download and 1mb upload in downtown Dallas.... iPhone 3gs gets about the same download speed, although only half of the upload speed.
Come to the other side of the Metroplex. Downtown Fort Worth and I am getting 5-7mb down, 1.1-1.3 up. I can't wait for the Holiday with LTE. That will be SO sweet.
id10terrordfw said:
Come to the other side of the Metroplex. Downtown Fort Worth and I am getting 5-7mb down, 1.1-1.3 up. I can't wait for the Holiday with LTE. That will be SO sweet.
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X's dos my brotha from anotha motha.
Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
I know the Inspire is not a LTE phone, but just launching the network upgrade has helped me to see vastly improved data speeds. I also know the Speed test app is not accurate, but I have never seen it pull these kind of speeds, especially consistently.
Well, I would like if it came out in Madison soon... (and when AT&T has more LTE Android phones)
Ok I live an hour away from Houston. Do you think I would still be getting LTE? Also do we need a new sim card or anything or does it automaticly happends?
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Ok I live an hour away from Houston. Do you think I would still be getting LTE? Also do we need a new sim card or anything or does it automaticly happends?
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first of all you would need an LTE capable phone....the inspire is not
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Ok I live an hour away from Houston. Do you think I would still be getting LTE? Also do we need a new sim card or anything or does it automaticly happends?
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As mentioned, you would need a LTE phone first. But, being an hour away from Houston, I wouldn't run out and buy one when they become available. I live in the outskirt of Houston and HSPA+ is non existent at home. In Houston where I work, as posted, I am just now seeing the true benefit of HSPA+. Probably some bottlenecks from ongoing upgrades being freed up, maybe a little congestion as well.
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Knowing how AT&T operates, I'd imagine they opened up more bandwidth to the land-based lines to the area first to make sure their LTE debut went well and you're just seeing some of that extra bandwidth.
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I know the Inspire is not a LTE phone, but just launching the network upgrade has helped me to see vastly improved data speeds. I also know the Speed test app is not accurate, but I have never seen it pull these kind of speeds, especially consistently.
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Turn off your wifi, Comcast customer.
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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Turn off your wifi, Comcast customer.
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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I'm not as stupid as you. I know when I'm on wifi. Here is the proof.
Here are some from earlier today. The first two were indoors, a large metal building with offices above on the second floor. The first run was bad, only 2800kbps, but I did hit 4916kbps on the second. I then went outdoors and tested a lil slower than yesterday, but not by much, 6485-7767kbps. I know we can't put too much stock in the Speed Test app, but there is some consistency and I'm getting much higher runs than I had been. Also, it seems to be reading my wifi at home with some accuracy.
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I'm not as stupid as you. I know when I'm on wifi. Here is the proof.
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lol.
Then why do you make statements like LTE network is improving the throughout of a HSPA+ phone on the 3G stack?
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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lol.
Then why do you make statements like LTE network is improving the throughout of a HSPA+ phone on the 3G stack?
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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Show me where I made that statement. I stated that since the LTE launch, my data speeds have suddenly increased and I'm finally seeing true hspa+, and that is a fact. I provided a couple of possible reasons for this, as someone else cited a possibility as well. I know what you saw. You saw the hosted by Comcast in the screenshot. Lol. Anybody with half a brain would know that there would have been a wifi icon in the status bar if I was on wifi. Next time you open your mouth, try not to put your foot in it. Your little signature says it all. Just because you are in a crummy area, doesn't mean it is like that everywheres.
Check my screenshot of prior tests and tell me if you see any improvement compared to yesterday and today. LOL.
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Peace my friends peace
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Peace my friends peace
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I'm good. I just don't appreciate someone implying I'm either stupid or I'm a liar. It certainly isn't inconceivable that while AT&T was building the LTE network here in Houston, they were improving the backhaul for hspa+. Whatever the source of the improvement, I'm thrilled to see true hspa+ speeds. It is something I never expected to see with my Inspire.
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The cities included in this initial wave are Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. Although users in those metro areas will still have very few LTE devices to choose from. Unlike Verizon, which has multiple LTE handsets, AT&T has no phones compatible with the new network. AT&T launched a data stick and a portable hotspot for the LTE network last month. The carrier has also started selling a massively overpriced Android tablet, the HTC Jetstream.[/QUOTE]
No westcoast cities in the works??
They finally turned on hspa+ in okc ok I'm seeing 7-9 dl constanly ul still around 1 but better signal to at my use to get 10- 30 percent now 70 -95 crazy how just one day they just flipped it on finaly I use to leave my phone on edge as o could surf internet faster that way not anymore
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I currently Have a ATT HTC One X back ordered on Amazon. While waiting it got me thinking maybe I should just grab the international version instead. Im so confused on what to do. Paying full price is not really a problem because it will just save my upgrade. Also I dont have LTE in my area yet, and even when it did come I think I would be fine with 4-6 mbs that HSPA provides. The main reason I want the INT is because of the extra storage space. Ive heard the CPUs are about the same (maybe S4 even being a little quicker). Hows the battery life on both? Is there any other factors or differences I am over looking. Any input from some one with both phones would be great! Thanks.
PeterHTC has done an excellent writeup on this topic, and tons of subsequent discussion by other members on that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609878
Do you already have AT&T service? Your Sprint logo avator is confusing.
Thanks for the link, reading it now. Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X. Was about to call and cancel my service the day before it was going to ship but then it got back ordered. Glad I didn't yet lol. Either way I am switching soon, either going to get INT version or just bite the $50 bullet and go get one from AT&T or Best Buy.
My 2 cents.
I had the Intl One X on release and it was very buggy.
To the point that I sold it in a week and stayed on my iPhone until the ATT version came out.
The ATT version is rock sold over the Intl version, but I'm really missing the extra storage.
If there were new software updates on the Intl version that fixed all the issues I might swap back, yes I do have LTE were I live and yes its super fast, but what I do on my phone doesn't really require a 20 mb download. I'd like to store ripped videos for travel and not rely so much on streaming which you have to do on the ATT One X.
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Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X.
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Reason I ask, do you know for a fact that you will have decent HSPA+ speed on AT&T where you need it? My house is supposed to be in a 4G HSPA+ coverage zone. But I was getting dismal data speeds often around 0.2 to 0.5 Mbps, and maybe 1 Mbps at best. Now on LTE, I get 27 Mbps in the same location.
At my work, I was usually getting from 3 to 5 Mbps on HSPA+. Not bad, and just fine for most things. But the HSPA+ at my house were near useless sometimes.
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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c5satellite2 said:
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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It's sprint... nuff said
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Everybody says they're fine with hspa+ until they actually experience LTE speeds. When I went back home too Houston and was consistently getting over 44Mbps down, I was literally blown away. It's that much of a difference.
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
Ya sprint sucks man. Horrible data speeds. Also IMO Evo 4glte is super ugly.
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Interesting, care to explain the reasons? I had an opportunity to trade 1 for 1 with a international version so I'm curious.
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Just the security of knowing I can get a warranty replacement from att if I need it.
For gaming: International
For everything else: AT&T HOX
c5satellite2 said:
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?
I just switched from sprint to the att one x and its wayyyyyyy better!!! And the speeds are way better! I was happy to get 6 down and today I got an lte signal (live in cleveland not official) and I got 50 down outside and 35 inside my house which is better then the .035 from sprint lol
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I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?
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You said it CDMA drains battery faster thats why they prob put the bigger battery in there. No sd card and only 16 GB of internal (actually even less lol) will suck but ill get used to it. The pros of the phone outways the cons. Pretty sure Im just gonna stick with the Att HOX.
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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LOL, so the grass isn't any greener over there?
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My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Lol...you're all over the place man
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You people act like you never changed your minds about something.
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You people act like you never changed your minds about something.
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No im glad you said that that pretty much made up my mind on getting the ATT version
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