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AT&T 3G VS T-Mobile 3G (Funny/True story)!

I was at the mall earlier with my buddy and he wanted to go to the T-Mobile store and ask a few questions.... I ended up talking to the store owner about random Android/Cell phone bs.
He pulled out a Nexus S (Unrooted/No ROM) and was explaining how T-Mobile 3G was so amazing. So he showed me his SpeedTest app results and they were around 1.44 down and he had one test that hit 2.15 I think.
So I downloaded the Speedtest app on my AT&T Samsung Captivate (Rooted/Serendipity 2.0) and tested. I got 2.23 and my upload annihilated his (don't remember number but it was high.)
He was speechless. Lol!

Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.

newter55 said:
Yeah.....as long as you live in one of the locations deemed worthy of 3g by at&t. Sadly their promise of 3g here by the end of the year was yet another empty one.
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At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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I also destryoed a few peoples download speeds around here.
Most I got was a 4.4mbps and 2up

my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup

fatttire said:
At least you get EDGE... live in a suburb and get no signal unless I walk outside...
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You try hitting them up for a microcell? I have heard if some getting them to give them one due to poor service.

I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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maxjivi05 said:
I'm actually sick of people complaining about att speeds since everyone is talking about 4G this 4G that. I know topic says 3G but still lol...
ATT gets 4.2-5Mbps down in my area and 1.7Mbps up. No other carrier I've seen here has been close sprint vzw etc get 100KBps... tops no higher.
Look at sprint's 4G its as fast as ATT's 3G. Vzw laptops only atm. TMo who has even heard of them in my area... they r big in Texas I know but nation wide??? I give props to tmo for using gsm like att so I know their speeds got to be up to par but I look at coverage maps and say really??
But anyway that's just my 2cents I pay for 10Mbps cable and my phone beats my computers speed tests... its sad that att wireless speeds are faster then our cable provider in my area...
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Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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dirtbagg said:
Yea its funny like the evo 4g 4mbs to 6mbs typicly and max 10mbs.....when i ran perception v4 i was gettin 5Mbs to 7mbs everytime in topeka ks where i live....i work for sprint call center...and laugh when they call in and are like omfg my phones so fassst.....hahah
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I have a sprint tab and att phone I'm going to return my tab because I only use it when tether to my att phone for internet... my friend was getting kicks with his evo going what's this 4G what's that mean... even though 4G is not in this area I go loadup speedtest.net and let it speak for itsself.. lol oh well maybe by end of this year everyone will have decent speeds
Oh yeah I work for att call center and when ppl go Verizon is getting the iPhone. Since I can't say the iPhone is crap I go well if you want to surf the internet 4-5x slower then everyone else go for it. Lol its funny crap
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sublimaze said:
my best ever was 5.1 down but i didn't have a screen capture program installed at the time, so you know... pics or it didn't happen
anyhoo, here's the best on my current setup
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what app do u use for screen capture?

jhogal1 said:
what app do u use for screen capture?
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Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!

alex4lex said:
Look for shootme in the market. It's free and pretty good. Think it requires root. Yeah around my parts, AT&T 3g reigns king in speed. In fact, the only people who don't have 3g are the tmob customers...which is funny because the tmobile employees all around here wear "america's largest 4g" shirts. HA!
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What a fail! LOL

1.4 - 2.8 is my norm for AT&T in NJ, that wouldn't impress me at all either

Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
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Charlie

In Saint Louis area, 3G indicated on phone, I' getting 1100K to 2300 K and 300-500K. On ATT. No whete near numbers you are reporting
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dmnall said:
Well my speeds are not as fast as Sublimaze's but here is mine: This is with Perception 10.1
Cheers,
Charlie
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Nice!!! Must be happy, haha

Is there a specific AT&T group where I can request a femtocell? I tried at the local store and with the marketing dept, and they both said no. I have 6 AT&T phones -- 4 on a family plan and 2 more on corporate contracts. There is no signal at my house -- in a low area with only 1 tower in town. I can get 3G if I drive about 1.5 miles, but cannot keep a call connected at home. Seems like I would be a perfect customer for a femtocell, but I must not be talking to the right people. Without a signal solution, I am definitely going to try another carrier.

Has AT&T Crippled Upload speed?

It sure looks like it. Why? Who knows? Help avoid network congestion? Not once have I seen above 0.5Mbs up. Forget about down. That's terrible too. I feel deceived. Nowhere in the settings will u find HSPA+. Only HSDPA. Go to settings,scroll all the way down. I think its phone info or something. System should day HSPA+ (4G) not HSDPA.
Whatever....I give up.

well first of all, 4G isn't running yet for anyone, and it is crippled, it has been already talked about thou, root ur phone and you'll be fine.

epicKA8 said:
well first of all, 4G isn't running yet for anyone, and it is crippled, it has been already talked about thou, root ur phone and you'll be fine.
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WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.

Fuze-A-Rama said:
WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.
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And I see you're in Brooklyn, so you just answered your own question as to why you're not getting 4G. As suggested earlier, Rooting your phone and flashing a new ROM should give you HSUPA (look through the forum, people are reporting between 1-3mbps up)

It is easy to fix so while it would be nice out of the box the user can fix it.

Fuze-A-Rama said:
It sure looks like it. Why? Who knows? Help avoid network congestion? Not once have I seen above 0.5Mbs up. Forget about down. That's terrible too. I feel deceived. Nowhere in the settings will u find HSPA+. Only HSDPA. Go to settings,scroll all the way down. I think its phone info or something. System should day HSPA+ (4G) not HSDPA.
Whatever....I give up.
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A quick reading on telephony protocol is in order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access

Fuze-A-Rama said:
WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.
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I am in Baltimore and if I go closer to the city I get the better speeds. I live about 10 miles out so I do not see it at home. I plan on heading there this weekend to run a few speed tests, only problem is there is allot more network congestion there.
I posted this in the Speed thread, the 2nd shot was with my Hero in downtown Baltimore about a month ago.
Here is what I am getting after root in the Inspire, was taken halfway between Baltimore and DC. Not sure why it picked a WV server.
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Here is the best I ever got on my old Hero

homeslice976 said:
And I see you're in Brooklyn, so you just answered your own question as to why you're not getting 4G. As suggested earlier, Rooting your phone and flashing a new ROM should give you HSUPA (look through the forum, people are reporting between 1-3mbps up)
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Holdon justaminute,it says if the arrows under the 4G symbol are illuminated,u got 4G. Well..... they're litup. Most of the time. Something underhanded is goinon with At&t.
Whatzup with that?

mine is illuminated as well, that just means the network is tehre, but if they're only porting 3g speeds over the network, its all yours gonna get.

This is upsetting. Upload speeds are definitely crippled.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

AT&T hasn't launched HSPA+ yet. Upload and download speeds are going to be Shorty 'til it launches. AT&T says that HSPA+ willbe completely rolled out by March 31st.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

Crippled unless they remove the limitation with a firmware update. No prob getting 1700 up on a captivate on my home tower; never break 500 with inspire. Has NOTHING to do with any switch getting flipped with regard to upload speeds.
If you want higher upload speeds, root and flash.

Twenty4 said:
I am in Baltimore and if I go closer to the city I get the better speeds. I live about 10 miles out so I do not see it at home. I plan on heading there this weekend to run a few speed tests, only problem is there is allot more network congestion there.
I posted this in the Speed thread, the 2nd shot was with my Hero in downtown Baltimore about a month ago.
Here is what I am getting after root in the Inspire, was taken halfway between Baltimore and DC. Not sure why it picked a WV server.
Here is the best I ever got on my old Hero
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are u suggesting this is 4g speeds??? i'm getting about that here in chicago on my iphone4 up and down, and up on the inspire.
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So even though the 2 arrows are lit we're not on 4G? Thisis lame. Best I see is 3dn/.5up. WTF? Nobody mentionedtheres no 4G for your new 4G phone yet! .....U think this is something we oughtta know? Before we buy a phone?
Ya think?

im getting on average 4.5download

This is definitely false advertisement on AT&T's part. Miami does not have 4g turned on, it's not even on the AT&T map for current 4g areas, but yesterday a rep. in my friendly neighborhood AT&T store, told me that if I had the "+" next to the "H" I'm getting 4g. So, I did a speed test in front of him and I got 1.8 down and 0.3 up. He seemed baffled and walked away. I just don't want to be stuck for another 2 years for a service that it is not true 4g. Maybe T-mobile 4g or Verizon LTE are better.

Fuze-A-Rama said:
So even though the 2 arrows are lit we're not on 4G? Thisis lame. Best I see is 3dn/.5up. WTF? Nobody mentionedtheres no 4G for your new 4G phone yet! .....U think this is something we oughtta know? Before we buy a phone?
Ya think?
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If the down arrow is lit it means there is downloading going on, if the up arrow is lit it means there is uploading going on, regardless of what network it's connecting to.
When you see the H+, this could mean you're connected to 3G, HSDPA, or, if available, HSPA+ (there's not multiple icons for these networks). HSPA+ (which isn't really "4G" - this is a marketing ploy developed by T-Mobile which AT&T decided to latch on to, I think they should be sued for this) is currently being rolled out, but it's not available in most areas.
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This is definitely false advertisement on AT&T's part. Miami does not have 4g turned on, it's not even on the AT&T map for current 4g areas, but yesterday a rep. in my friendly neighborhood AT&T store, told me that if I had the "+" next to the "H" I'm getting 4g. So, I did a speed test in front of him and I got 1.8 down and 0.3 up. He seemed baffled and walked away. I just don't want to be stuck for another 2 years for a service that it is not true 4g. Maybe T-mobile 4g or Verizon LTE are better.
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T-Mobile 4G is HSPA+ as well, but I think they've rolled it out in more areas. The LTE network is a true 4G network, but I don't know how available it is either

As per owners manual,or quickstart manual that's in the box, it says,when u see the 2 arrows litup that means u got 4G. I know 1 means up & other is down.......
Only VZ & MetroPCS have LTE. This is all just marketspeak for the gullible. Thousands of people think they're on 4G because of marginally better speeds than they were getting!........EXCEPT ON THE UPLOAD!...

homeslice976 said:
If the down arrow is lit it means there is downloading going on, if the up arrow is lit it means there is uploading going on, regardless of what network it's connecting to.
When you see the H+, this could mean you're connected to 3G, HSDPA, or, if available, HSPA+ (there's not multiple icons for these networks). HSPA+ (which isn't really "4G" - this is a marketing ploy developed by T-Mobile which AT&T decided to latch on to, I think they should be sued for this) is currently being rolled out, but it's not available in most areas.
T-Mobile 4G is HSPA+ as well, but I think they've rolled it out in more areas. The LTE network is a true 4G network, but I don't know how available it is either
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Uh, no. LTE is not 4G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

Well... I'm glad we cleared thatup. Back to the question. Why? Engadget said what I was thinking,that its to avoid congestion. So we're suffering because the system can't handle all the customers? Somebody should do something about this......

Does 4g hspa+ work on custom roms and radios from other regions/carriers?

Title says it all. I searched but didn't find my answer. I am running core droid and the m3 radio. I don't want to go back to stock radio bc I got crappy signal everywhere with it. In network info it only ever says I am connected to hdspa. I am still trying to figure out all these terms but my main concern is, if I flash a radio like the m3 from another carrier and country and also have a custom rom installed will the phone still be able to connect to and receive the 4g hspa+ speeds if I am on a back-hauled tower? I just wonder because it seems to me since the roms are based on the Desire and the radios are from another country it would not work right? Can someone clarify?

Nobody has any comments?

It will only work on carriers that use 850/1900 for 3g, which is only rogers in Canada and ATT. It won't work anywhere in Europe 3g or anywhere else.

Thanks for replying but I actually was asking if the fact we are using roms and radios based of the desire HD hardware would prevent us from connecting to hSPA+ service on ATT. I mainly ask because I was in Los Angeles today and I am pretty sure they should have hspa+ backhauled already and the best speeds I could get with full bars and using a server 2.6 miles away was a ping of about 194 and speeds of 3.03 Mbps down and 1.27 up

Okay I am beginning to think we can't access 4g with our rooted inspire. I am on att and running core droid rom with m2 radio. I just looked on the ATT site and it says LA,Ca is one of the cities that has had the complete backhual. Yet I only saw the above speeds and the only think my phone said was hsdpa never hspa+ in the network information section of the settings.

I definitely can access so called ATT 4g with the M2 radio which is NOT the stock ATT radio.

simulatordos said:
I definitely can access so called ATT 4g with the M2 radio which is NOT the stock ATT radio.
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Are you in one of the listed areas that has the 100% live 4g? What speeds do you get in a 4g area on a speed test? Does it show hspa+ in network info in phone settings menu? Also what rom are you on? Just trying to narrow down some stuff.Just because it shows H in the status bar doesn't mean you are actually on 4g.

9646gt said:
Are you in one of the listed areas that has the 100% live 4g? What speeds do you get in a 4g area on a speed test? Does it show hspa+ in network info in phone settings menu? Also what rom are you on? Just trying to narrow down some stuff.Just because it shows H in the status bar doesn't mean you are actually on 4g.
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I'm getting anywhere from 500 to 2500 down and usually around 1000-1500 up.
The menu is meaningless from what I understand. The only thing that matters is speed and I clearly am getting so called "4g" speeds. Using the stock rooted rom.

simulatordos said:
I'm getting anywhere from 500 to 2500 down and usually around 1000-1500 up.
The menu is meaningless from what I understand. The only thing that matters is speed and I clearly am getting so called "4g" speeds. Using the stock rooted rom.
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First off MODS I think it would be best if you can move this to the DEV section as it's better suited there I would think?
Yeah those speeds are for sure not 4g. The reason I am bringing up all of this is the fastest speed that the Desire HD specs say it supports is 3g 14.4 megabits/s and hspa+ is rated at a maximum of up to 42megabits/s and even faster down the road. Now if the radios (maybe even roms) for the desire were not meant to ever support hspa+ (it doesn't say in the specs it even supports hspa+) will this mean that if we are using those radios and roms we are not going to see the speeds we should?
I know this does not seem like a big deal right now with 4g access being limited, but ATT is fastly expanding the coverage area with it's backhaul. So figureing this out before hand would be a good idea. The Iphone for example is capped at like 7.2 download because it does not support hspa+. If the radios and roms form the DHD are the same way we will be greatly reducing our data speeds.

9646gt said:
First off MODS I think it would be best if you can move this to the DEV section as it's better suited there I would think?
Yeah those speeds are for sure not 4g. The reason I am bringing up all of this is the fastest speed that the Desire HD specs say it supports is 3g 14.4 megabits/s and hspa+ is rated at a maximum of up to 42megabits/s and even faster down the road. Now if the radios (maybe even roms) for the desire were not meant to ever support hspa+ (it doesn't say in the specs it even supports hspa+) will this mean that if we are using those radios and roms we are not going to see the speeds we should?
I know this does not seem like a big deal right now with 4g access being limited, but ATT is fastly expanding the coverage area with it's backhaul. So figureing this out before hand would be a good idea. The Iphone for example is capped at like 7.2 download because it does not support hspa+. If the radios and roms form the DHD are the same way we will be greatly reducing our data speeds.
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Typically we should be able to in theory edit the build.prop to enable compatible speeds.
In theory.

This is actually a great thread and point to be brought up.
Most of us aren't on an unlimited data plan so having the fastest speed is the only perk we have vs. Using edge and dumb phones.
Um coming from an unlocked Android phone which was only compatible with at&ts edge connection and that experience was less than stellar.
Hoping the Devs here in the Inspire 4G section have this in mind, and if not we can be sure to remind them.
Talking about speed, my phone is jumping from 3g to 3.5g which is a bad thing.
Will test it more thoroughly as maybe the phone is in need to be exchanged before the 30 days.
Sent from my most memorable Inspire 4G

9646gt said:
Thanks for replying but I actually was asking if the fact we are using roms and radios based of the desire HD hardware would prevent us from connecting to hSPA+ service on ATT. I mainly ask because I was in Los Angeles today and I am pretty sure they should have hspa+ backhauled already and the best speeds I could get with full bars and using a server 2.6 miles away was a ping of about 194 and speeds of 3.03 Mbps down and 1.27 up
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your numbers seem dead on with what i get in los angeles. i havent seen higher than 3Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up all throughout the LA arrea. so i dont thin kthe ROM has any ill effect.

RogerPodacter said:
your numbers seem dead on with what i get in los angeles. i havent seen higher than 3Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up all throughout the LA arrea. so i dont thin kthe ROM has any ill effect.
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So basically just another classic case of ATT over promising and under delivering huh. I can't wait for my contract to be up.

9646gt said:
So basically just another classic case of ATT over promising and under delivering huh. I can't wait for my contract to be up.
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Yeah basically. My contract has been up for years but I'm happy enough with them. But ATT is just horrible in terms of being a leader in the industry. All they do is react and follow. They had the golden chance to roll out hspa first and blow the competition away. Instead they sit back and let t-mobile do that, then copy them and play catch up "me too." For years they've done this, copy every single thing Verizon does, never once thinking of doing it first.
Especially when hspa is a rather easy software upgrade to the tower base station. Such good bang for buck and easy to implement and boost speeds to 21Mbps. No instead they let t-mobile, the network that yesterday didn't even have 3g come in and make them look silly. Sigh.

I couldn't agree more with you lol. I guess my biggest concern is the simple fact that the desire HD says nothing about supporting hspa+. Yet all our roms and radios we are using are from that phone. I just have a hard time understanding how hspa+ will actually still work I guess.

I couldn't agree more with you lol. I guess my biggest concern is the simple fact that the desire HD says nothing about supporting hspa+. Yet all our roms and radios we are using are from that phone. I just have a hard time understanding how hspa+ will actually still work I guess.
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build.prop.
HSPA+ is enabled in there.

Updated my Inspire's ROM to Android Revolution 4.0(stock radio) with 2.3.2 Gingerbread and am getting better speeds:
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I didn;t see anything at all actually for hspa+ in build.prop. Are you thinking about hsudpa?

From what I understand about how all this works, as long as you are on the right frequency, and have the correct setting in build prop, the radio version won't matter, unlike the Captivate, which supports more frequencies and only using a radio from the European SGS will give you "correct" HSUPA.

9646gt said:
I didn;t see anything at all actually for hspa+ in build.prop. Are you thinking about hsudpa?
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No. Setting ro.ril.hsdpa to 10 or 14 and up enables it. That is all it takes.

U Need To Sign Zizo79s Petition...

If u bought an Inspire,u need to sign his petition. Forget what all these AT&T apologizers/employees/stockholders/morons say. What AT&T is doing WRONG. How anyone with a whit of common sense could look at ATTs adverts about 4G and upgrades to the system like the completion of "backhaul" & other nonsence,and not see the false advertising,is an ignorant loser. I know I'm furious over ATT crippling the DesireHD,now that its finally on ATT!
Like I said,all u Inspire owners need to go sign.
NOBODY wants to hear from ANY of u ATT sympathizers. U probably have iphones w/pink Otterboxes!

That is messed up how at&t mutilates their phones. However, I find it ironic all the fuss about at&t's "fake 4g" when the other carriers made the same claims and labelled their stuff 3g when at&t was the one that actually had the closest thing. The tables are turned now is all. I would however sign a petition about mutilation of their phone's in general, not that it would matter. Switching carriers and stating that reason would come closer to getting their attention.
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BelacNongaw said:
I find it ironic all the fuss about at&t's "fake 4g" when the other carriers made the same claims
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are you talking about Tmobile? Atleast on tmobile, when they say 4G, you do get 4G speed! on att map, it shows i have 4G coverage in Bayarea CA, but my inspire 4G speedtest is the SAME as any other 3G phones!
and to those that said i getting 4.5MB or higher on htc inspire! but it' so funny no-one able to prove it with youtube! haha
i hope someone complain to FCC about this ATT 4G BS!!

Way to take a post out of context. Read the whole post. You cut that quote off right before it showed I was clearly comparing 3g between carriers. If you're that unhappy, switch. All 4 of the main carriers finally all have decent android phones.
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it is 4g, its just a certain type of 4g.
read this.

BelacNongaw said:
Way to take a post out of context. Read the whole post. You cut that quote off right before it showed I was clearly comparing 3g between carriers. If you're that unhappy, switch. All 4 of the main carriers finally all have decent android phones.
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comparing 3G between carriers??
are we ALL talking about 3G here?
i thought the OP is talking about ATT 4G BS!

Fuze-A-Rama said:
If u bought an Inspire,u need to sign his petition. Forget what all these AT&T apologizers/employees/stockholders/morons say. What AT&T is doing WRONG. How anyone with a whit of common sense could look at ATTs adverts about 4G and upgrades to the system like the completion of "backhaul" & other nonsence,and not see the false advertising,is an ignorant loser. I know I'm furious over ATT crippling the DesireHD,now that its finally on ATT!
Like I said,all u Inspire owners need to go sign.
NOBODY wants to hear from ANY of u ATT sympathizers. U probably have iphones w/pink Otterboxes!
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Why not just ask "please sign this petition?"
Instead you lace your post with insults.
People aren't going to sign the petition just to be sure YOU don't think they're an ignorant loser or an ATT sympathizer.
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netnerd said:
are you talking about Tmobile? Atleast on tmobile, when they say 4G, you do get 4G speed! on att map, it shows i have 4G coverage in Bayarea CA, but my inspire 4G speedtest is the SAME as any other 3G phones!
and to those that said i getting 4.5MB or higher on htc inspire! but it' so funny no-one able to prove it with youtube! haha
i hope someone complain to FCC about this ATT 4G BS!!
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so screen shots aren't good enough to prove it? gotta have video too??
and really, there isn't any were yet that i've heard of confirmed "4G" actually working.

And just what do you expect this petition to do? Will AT&T all the sudden move up their 4g roll out? lol
Or do you want them to put out an apology add? lol
Or do you think you've been had by purchasing the phone? You have 30 days to return it.

Meh... AT&T has certainly taken liberties with their 4G advertising (as have others), but anyone who does any research knows this. As for the handicapping of speed, they are within their rights. It's all in the contract. Personally, I have been pretty happy with the speed. If you're not, there are other companies that will happily take your money.

Im not worried about it. I knew. Buying the phone that i wasn getting 4G anytime soon. Especially living where i do.
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so screen shots aren't good enough to prove it? gotta have video too??
and really, there isn't any were yet that i've heard of confirmed "4G" actually working.
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This guys lying! It's probably a Thunderbolt on LTE!
Cmon guys,I hope you've been to Groubal.

Fuze-A-Rama said:
This guys lying! It's probably a Thunderbolt on LTE!
Cmon guys,I hope you've been to Groubal.
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really? you're calling me a lier???? RIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTT
edit: and if you're talking about my sig, its a cable line, AND this is also my first droid phone ever, and if u notice my sig, i came form the iphone world (so ATT, no LTE), and my iphone gets the same speeds as inspire.

Inspire users... Unite!!! At&t is Hitler!!
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Here is the link: http://www.groubal.com/att-misleading-their-customers-and-capping-upload-speeds/
I agree with the OP said, we all know that their "4G" isnt delpoyed but why asell phones with the 4G sign on them. That isnt the main issue here, the big issue is the fact that if you don't have an iPhone, your chances are that AT&T crippled your upload speeds. This petition is getting a lot of attention (Just google it),

There's a thread on the ATT site that was started a long time ago. "Why is AT&T capping uploads on all non-iphones?" I didn't pay it no mind. Until I bought an Inspire! This is corporate favoritism in the worst way. This is WRONG. It may not be worth squat. But we should ALL sign it. Now.

I have been getting some extreme speeds on and off. Any where from 3 to 20 mbs.
Here are some extreme speed shots.
Note - I do not achieve these speeds consistently at all.
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Le7
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Ldq
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Lfb
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Maliberti said:
I have been getting some extreme speeds on and off. Any where from 3 to 20 mbs.
Here are some extreme speed shots.
Note - I do not achieve these speeds consistently at all.
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Le7
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Ldq
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Lfb
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Holy mac... !! So I guess Seattle has HSPA+!

Sorry bout that epicKA8....
epicKA8 said:
really? you're calling me a lier???? RIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTT
edit: and if you're talking about my sig, its a cable line, AND this is also my first droid phone ever, and if u notice my sig, i came form the iphone world (so ATT, no LTE), and my iphone gets the same speeds as inspire.
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I thought u were implying those were your Inspires speeds. Nevermind.

Maliberti said:
I have been getting some extreme speeds on and off. Any where from 3 to 20 mbs.
Here are some extreme speed shots.
Note - I do not achieve these speeds consistently at all.
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Le7
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Ldq
http://flic.kr/p/9o7Lfb
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Holy jesus!
Are you rooted or good ol stock?
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[Q] Straight Talk and 3g for Sensation Help!

Hi all, I did a search and didn't get very far. Here's the deal I learned after buying my girlfriend and Tmobile Sensation 4G and putting it on a ST SIM(uses att service) that it doesn't have the 850mhz band that att uses for 3g. Is there any way possible to change the frequency to pick up atts 3g wether it be a radio/RILEY or a ROM that changes this. I don't think it is a hardware issue seeing as the galaxy s is able to change this setting easily. What I need to know is has anyone addressed this issue or found a work around? I am even willing to replace hardware if necessary. Maybe a Bell Canada radio/ril?? Currently we have Insert Coin ICS installed. Any help is appreciated! Thanks

Nope,
Maybe someone else will prove me wrong, but I don't believe there is any way to make a T-Mobile branded Sensation work on AT&T's 3G network. There were some rumors early on that this might be possible, but I don't think anyone has been able to make it happen.

There must be some way to access these network options to edit the frequency. If they can do it on some other phones maybe a Dev can get his hands on an RUU from the Canada Bell files and possibly find where this is hidden? There must be some way haha!

Plus 1 I want to know too just dropped tmob for changing contract and btw there changing everyone's April 5 th
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There is no setting to enable it. The hardware is simply not there. To get 3/4G on the Sensation, just buy a T-Mobile SIM card from StraightTalk and then activate it on her plan. http://www.straighttalk.com/ShopSims

dallashigh said:
There is no setting to enable it. The hardware is simply not there. To get 3/4G on the Sensation, just buy a T-Mobile SIM card from StraightTalk and then activate it on her plan. http://www.straighttalk.com/ShopSims
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I'm running StraightTalk's tmo sim on my phone. Works perfectly, including MMS (which Simple Mobile failed at).

What hardware I don't see any difference
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Data speeds
overthinkingme said:
I'm running StraightTalk's tmo sim on my phone. Works perfectly, including MMS (which Simple Mobile failed at).
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How fast are your speeds? I'm very interested in switch over to there from metro. I just purchased a sensation But I'm at a stump for which service to go to

chaosblack1991 said:
How fast are your speeds? I'm very interested in switch over to there from metro. I just purchased a sensation But I'm at a stump for which service to go to
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Not great, not bad at all actually. Especially for the price.
People over on howardforums swear there are 100/mb/day or 2gb/month limits on data though. At which point they claim they either turn off your data or close your account altogether.
I use wifi most of the day so I don't care but your situation might be different. Tmobile prepaid is what I had before though. $60/month for 2gb @ 4G speed isn't bad.
craven667 said:
What hardware I don't see any difference
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The internal hardware. The radio just isn't capable. It isn't a case where it is capable but disabled, it's a case where it isn't capable.
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LOL noob here
Looks ok I guess. I'm still a noob at reading those speed charts but I'll just take your word for it. The only problem I might have with them is , I'm scared they might just cancel my number completely or that i loose data completely. So would you recommend this or the t-mobile monthly $50? I'm paying 50 for my metro atm so I really don't want to pay more, I'll be glad with the same or a little bit less.

chaosblack1991 said:
Looks ok I guess. I'm still a noob at reading those speed charts but I'll just take your word for it. The only problem I might have with them is , I'm scared they might just cancel my number completely or that i loose data completely. So would you recommend this or the t-mobile monthly $50? I'm paying 50 for my metro atm so I really don't want to pay more, I'll be glad with the same or a little bit less.
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The thing is that on the $50 TMO plan you'll get 100mb of 4G and the rest will be 2G speed. Meaning that you'll struggle to play video like YouTube. That's why I recommended the $60 plan.
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So what made you switch over to Straight talk

chaosblack1991 said:
So what made you switch over to Straight talk
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I didn't use nearly 2GB a month. More like 500MB.
Saved $15, service is the same..might as well.

No need for 50$ you get the same thing I just ordered simplemob simcards for 99 each and will have a bill of 80 vs 120 plus tax
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chaosblack1991 said:
So what made you switch over to Straight talk
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That's not gsm there with version and sprint and metro
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craven667 said:
That's not gsm there with version and sprint and metro
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http://www.straighttalksim.com/
They have sims for TMO or ATT network.

Thanks guys! I ordered her a SIM from straight Talk for TMO. Should be here Tuesday. Anybody know how their voice/data service is in Michigan? I am spoiled by having excellent data with VZW but definitely pay for it.... Will she have worse service than with her current ST ATT SIM? Hope it goes well and they let me swap SIMS and keep her number!

natehale88 said:
Thanks guys! I ordered her a SIM from straight Talk for TMO. Should be here Tuesday. Anybody know how their voice/data service is in Michigan? I am spoiled by having excellent data with VZW but definitely pay for it.... Will she have worse service than with her current ST ATT SIM? Hope it goes well and they let me swap SIMS and keep her number!
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Let us know if they do, I would like to know just in case ATT gets a phone I can't resist haha
About Michigan coverage, no idea, I'm in L.A., sorry.

craven667 said:
Plus 1 I want to know too just dropped tmob for changing contract and btw there changing everyone's April 5 th
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What exactly are they changing and do you have a link for me to read too?
Cause I really regret renewing with tmob
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natehale88 said:
Thanks guys! I ordered her a SIM from straight Talk for TMO. Should be here Tuesday. Anybody know how their voice/data service is in Michigan? I am spoiled by having excellent data with VZW but definitely pay for it.... Will she have worse service than with her current ST ATT SIM? Hope it goes well and they let me swap SIMS and keep her number![/QUOT
Hmmm didn't know that had Sims but all att or tmol so will be the same service
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