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Has AT&T Crippled Upload speed?

It sure looks like it. Why? Who knows? Help avoid network congestion? Not once have I seen above 0.5Mbs up. Forget about down. That's terrible too. I feel deceived. Nowhere in the settings will u find HSPA+. Only HSDPA. Go to settings,scroll all the way down. I think its phone info or something. System should day HSPA+ (4G) not HSDPA.
Whatever....I give up.

well first of all, 4G isn't running yet for anyone, and it is crippled, it has been already talked about thou, root ur phone and you'll be fine.

epicKA8 said:
well first of all, 4G isn't running yet for anyone, and it is crippled, it has been already talked about thou, root ur phone and you'll be fine.
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WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.

Fuze-A-Rama said:
WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.
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And I see you're in Brooklyn, so you just answered your own question as to why you're not getting 4G. As suggested earlier, Rooting your phone and flashing a new ROM should give you HSUPA (look through the forum, people are reporting between 1-3mbps up)

It is easy to fix so while it would be nice out of the box the user can fix it.

Fuze-A-Rama said:
It sure looks like it. Why? Who knows? Help avoid network congestion? Not once have I seen above 0.5Mbs up. Forget about down. That's terrible too. I feel deceived. Nowhere in the settings will u find HSPA+. Only HSDPA. Go to settings,scroll all the way down. I think its phone info or something. System should day HSPA+ (4G) not HSDPA.
Whatever....I give up.
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A quick reading on telephony protocol is in order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access

Fuze-A-Rama said:
WRONG! Officially,ATT hasit out in Buffalo,Providence,Baltimore.
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I am in Baltimore and if I go closer to the city I get the better speeds. I live about 10 miles out so I do not see it at home. I plan on heading there this weekend to run a few speed tests, only problem is there is allot more network congestion there.
I posted this in the Speed thread, the 2nd shot was with my Hero in downtown Baltimore about a month ago.
Here is what I am getting after root in the Inspire, was taken halfway between Baltimore and DC. Not sure why it picked a WV server.
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Here is the best I ever got on my old Hero

homeslice976 said:
And I see you're in Brooklyn, so you just answered your own question as to why you're not getting 4G. As suggested earlier, Rooting your phone and flashing a new ROM should give you HSUPA (look through the forum, people are reporting between 1-3mbps up)
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Holdon justaminute,it says if the arrows under the 4G symbol are illuminated,u got 4G. Well..... they're litup. Most of the time. Something underhanded is goinon with At&t.
Whatzup with that?

mine is illuminated as well, that just means the network is tehre, but if they're only porting 3g speeds over the network, its all yours gonna get.

This is upsetting. Upload speeds are definitely crippled.
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AT&T hasn't launched HSPA+ yet. Upload and download speeds are going to be Shorty 'til it launches. AT&T says that HSPA+ willbe completely rolled out by March 31st.
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Crippled unless they remove the limitation with a firmware update. No prob getting 1700 up on a captivate on my home tower; never break 500 with inspire. Has NOTHING to do with any switch getting flipped with regard to upload speeds.
If you want higher upload speeds, root and flash.

Twenty4 said:
I am in Baltimore and if I go closer to the city I get the better speeds. I live about 10 miles out so I do not see it at home. I plan on heading there this weekend to run a few speed tests, only problem is there is allot more network congestion there.
I posted this in the Speed thread, the 2nd shot was with my Hero in downtown Baltimore about a month ago.
Here is what I am getting after root in the Inspire, was taken halfway between Baltimore and DC. Not sure why it picked a WV server.
Here is the best I ever got on my old Hero
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are u suggesting this is 4g speeds??? i'm getting about that here in chicago on my iphone4 up and down, and up on the inspire.
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So even though the 2 arrows are lit we're not on 4G? Thisis lame. Best I see is 3dn/.5up. WTF? Nobody mentionedtheres no 4G for your new 4G phone yet! .....U think this is something we oughtta know? Before we buy a phone?
Ya think?

im getting on average 4.5download

This is definitely false advertisement on AT&T's part. Miami does not have 4g turned on, it's not even on the AT&T map for current 4g areas, but yesterday a rep. in my friendly neighborhood AT&T store, told me that if I had the "+" next to the "H" I'm getting 4g. So, I did a speed test in front of him and I got 1.8 down and 0.3 up. He seemed baffled and walked away. I just don't want to be stuck for another 2 years for a service that it is not true 4g. Maybe T-mobile 4g or Verizon LTE are better.

Fuze-A-Rama said:
So even though the 2 arrows are lit we're not on 4G? Thisis lame. Best I see is 3dn/.5up. WTF? Nobody mentionedtheres no 4G for your new 4G phone yet! .....U think this is something we oughtta know? Before we buy a phone?
Ya think?
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If the down arrow is lit it means there is downloading going on, if the up arrow is lit it means there is uploading going on, regardless of what network it's connecting to.
When you see the H+, this could mean you're connected to 3G, HSDPA, or, if available, HSPA+ (there's not multiple icons for these networks). HSPA+ (which isn't really "4G" - this is a marketing ploy developed by T-Mobile which AT&T decided to latch on to, I think they should be sued for this) is currently being rolled out, but it's not available in most areas.
calin75 said:
This is definitely false advertisement on AT&T's part. Miami does not have 4g turned on, it's not even on the AT&T map for current 4g areas, but yesterday a rep. in my friendly neighborhood AT&T store, told me that if I had the "+" next to the "H" I'm getting 4g. So, I did a speed test in front of him and I got 1.8 down and 0.3 up. He seemed baffled and walked away. I just don't want to be stuck for another 2 years for a service that it is not true 4g. Maybe T-mobile 4g or Verizon LTE are better.
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T-Mobile 4G is HSPA+ as well, but I think they've rolled it out in more areas. The LTE network is a true 4G network, but I don't know how available it is either

As per owners manual,or quickstart manual that's in the box, it says,when u see the 2 arrows litup that means u got 4G. I know 1 means up & other is down.......
Only VZ & MetroPCS have LTE. This is all just marketspeak for the gullible. Thousands of people think they're on 4G because of marginally better speeds than they were getting!........EXCEPT ON THE UPLOAD!...

homeslice976 said:
If the down arrow is lit it means there is downloading going on, if the up arrow is lit it means there is uploading going on, regardless of what network it's connecting to.
When you see the H+, this could mean you're connected to 3G, HSDPA, or, if available, HSPA+ (there's not multiple icons for these networks). HSPA+ (which isn't really "4G" - this is a marketing ploy developed by T-Mobile which AT&T decided to latch on to, I think they should be sued for this) is currently being rolled out, but it's not available in most areas.
T-Mobile 4G is HSPA+ as well, but I think they've rolled it out in more areas. The LTE network is a true 4G network, but I don't know how available it is either
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Uh, no. LTE is not 4G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

Well... I'm glad we cleared thatup. Back to the question. Why? Engadget said what I was thinking,that its to avoid congestion. So we're suffering because the system can't handle all the customers? Somebody should do something about this......

[Q] 4g? Really? Really Tmobile? Really?

Soooooo.... Tmobile does not seem to have a 4g network in my area even if they say they do. I spent the better part of 2hrs talk to tech support managers who tried to convince me that my g2x is pulling down 4g data despite speedtest showing max of only 2mbs and a constant connection to their 3g "umts" network and not their 4g "hspa" network. Really.tmobile? Really? Im starting to think that the hspa network is only a myth.... I mean, I have never seen a device connect to it nor has anyone I know. Have you guys ever been connected to tmo's hspa network?

Damn, thats not good. I'm having the same issue. I can put my SIM in my MyTouch 4G and my G2 and get 4g speeds. They even had me swap SIMs
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In my area of Raleigh NC tmobiles 4g is by far the fastest in my area I get min 5mbs up to 11 MBA usually right around 7 or 8.
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Their 3g is HSPA. Their "4g" is HSPA+. It's not a myth. And your download speed is dependent on many factors. Dont think that just because youre connected to the network youll get maximum HSPA+ speeds.

I get exceptional speeds, ranging anywhere from 6-12.5kbps on their '4G' network, pretty consistently.

Apparently (according to numerous XDA posts I've read) the G2x displays the 4G icon if you're in a 4G OR 3G coverage area. In other words, even if you're only in a 3G area, the 4G icon will be displayed.
As for the speeds, I've pulled down a max of 7mbps since I've had the phone. At my house which is supposedly a 4G area (according to the tmo coverage map) the max I've ever pulled down is 1.8mbps. My theory is that the back-haul is somewhat limited on the tower close to my house. Due to the geography I'm fairly sure they're using the same ISP I'm using (Charter). The tower is located in the middle of a huge suburban area with only Charter and AT&T providing service. AT&T DSL maxes out at 1.5mpbs in the area and Charter maxes out at 18mbps. Now, I've seen the tower and there's no equipment on it for a wireless back-haul. So basically the odds are they're using a few CBN (Charter Business) lines for connectivity and have the max speed per device set to 2mbps.
You can toss as much of the fancy 4G equipment on a tower as you want but if the back-haul capacity isn't there then it's still gonna be slow. Just my two cents.

Go into about phone and look for network. Mine is usually connected to hspa and I'm betting that's what yours is also.

Well 4G = 3G.
4G is the same technology just faster. Thats like my cable modem. It was 1.5mpbs when I first got it. Then 5mpbs. Then 10. Then 20. 30. Now 50mpbs. Nothing changed on my end.
My Nexus One would display 3G until I would pull data, then flip to H. But it wouldn't show 4G all the time (nor would it support faster speeds). I think they are trying to get rid of the 3G because 3G and 4G are basically the same.
People don't want to buy into the 4G service only to have the phone say 3G all the time.
And from my understanding the phone would display 3G. I never seen it but i'm in a 4G area.

regP said:
Their 3g is HSPA. Their "4g" is HSPA+. It's not a myth. And your download speed is dependent on many factors. Dont think that just because youre connected to the network youll get maximum HSPA+ speeds.
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sooo then whats HSDPA considered?

HSDPA is an evolved version of HSPA. It allows speeds of 3.6, 7.2, and 14.4Mbis/s. Sometimes called 3.5g
HSPA+ offers speeds up to 42Mbits/s. This is what T-Mobile is claiming as 4g
BOTH are based on the same 3g technology.

player911 said:
Well 4G = 3G.
4G is the same technology just faster. Thats like my cable modem. It was 1.5mpbs when I first got it. Then 5mpbs. Then 10. Then 20. 30. Now 50mpbs. Nothing changed on my end.
My Nexus One would display 3G until I would pull data, then flip to H. But it wouldn't show 4G all the time (nor would it support faster speeds). I think they are trying to get rid of the 3G because 3G and 4G are basically the same.
People don't want to buy into the 4G service only to have the phone say 3G all the time.
And from my understanding the phone would display 3G. I never seen it but i'm in a 4G area.
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HSPA+ isn't exactly the same technology and if you're getting 50mbps service through Comcast, either you just got the service or you did change your modem out recently. DOCSIS 2 wouldn't support that speed, you'd need a DOCSIS 3 modem.

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HSDPA is an evolved version of HSPA. It allows speeds of 3.6, 7.2, and 14.4Mbis/s. Sometimes called 3.5g
HSPA+ offers speeds up to 42Mbits/s. This is what T-Mobile is claiming as 4g
BOTH are based on the same 3g technology.
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ahh i get ya...that always confused me

I live 150 miles from the closest hspa+ signal. my g2x has said 4g since i first turned it on. I even showed it to the tmobile salesmen and they scratched their heads. never seen higher than 1.5 mbps on this thing.

I don't care what TMO wants to call it, their network is a far cry from 4G. Not Even Verizon's LTE is considered true 4G by international standards (which require +100mb down) and I get 30-35mb down and 12-15mb up. On TMO network, I have yet to top 7mb.

jlevy73 said:
I don't care what TMO wants to call it, their network is a far cry from 4G. Not Even Verizon's LTE is considered true 4G by international standards (which require +100mb down) and I get 30-35mb down and 12-15mb up. On TMO network, I have yet to top 7mb.
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Well that's a whole other topic right? Gizmodo, Engadget, etc have all discussed that no network is truly "4G". Recently tho I thought something changed where they lowered the requirement for what is considered 4G.
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Seanathan said:
Well that's a whole other topic right? Gizmodo, Engadget, etc have all discussed that no network is truly "4G". Recently tho I thought something changed where they lowered the requirement for what is considered 4G.
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I've heard that as well, they lowered the spec to 10Mbps or so. Here's the first link I could find talking about it, but there are plenty more Link

jlevy73 said:
I don't care what TMO wants to call it, their network is a far cry from 4G. Not Even Verizon's LTE is considered true 4G by international standards (which require +100mb down) and I get 30-35mb down and 12-15mb up. On TMO network, I have yet to top 7mb.
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at least wimax and lte will have the ability to reach those theoretical speeds in future revisions. HSPA is maxed out at 84Mb/s.

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Go into about phone and look for network. Mine is usually connected to hspa and I'm betting that's what yours is also.
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Post a screen shot of your settings showing "Mobile Network Type" being connected to "HSPA" and Not UMTS. My device has NEVER see seen "HSPA" only "UMTS".
In fact, someone/anyone please post a picture of this device being connected to HSPA and NOT UMTS! i am in a certified 4g network and my device has never seen more than 2.5mbs....
really t-mobile? really?

4G just means 4th Generation. There is no official definition of what technically constitutes 4G.
This is what I get at home with a 4G icon and a reported UMTS connection.
T-Mo's 4G may not be as theoretically fast as LTE or whatever else, but the 6 ~12 Mbps down is as good as I can do with anything right now.
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I'm finally getting real speeds after trying MetroPcsand Sprint. For me here in the Dallas area right on top of the airport, I'm now seeing up to 8.5 up. I'm pretty happy with that. I just plain never saw anything faster than 1.5in my town.....ever. And that was the first time I had my Indulge on metros system. I left for Sprint, who could never get past 1.0 Mbps, not once in three weeks of use. Went back to Metro and never saw anything past .5....apparently they are having systemwide issues right now.
I am esctatic over my speeds now. And I really am liking the other aspects I've seen of T mobile as well. Live people on the phone, the soon to be free wifi calling, and the in phone account info are all nice things. Their fees are right ion the middle.
And this phone......I have not had one issue (minor bleed)that others are reporting (yet?). I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop LOL.
As far as speeds, I have to inject my usual caveat here....
I'm not convinced on Speedtests accuracy. With all those low speeds reported, my device was usually functioning faster than Speedtest seemed to indicate. I mean on MetroPcs, the speedtest was saying .5, yet the page would load in 6 seconds or so. That's not modem speeds IMO. Not broadband speeds for sure, but not modem speeds.
Now this phone is fast! It loads a screen faster than my cheep laptop on fios broadband!
So I have to ask the op this....You say the speeds suck, but how is it actually functioning? Are your real world experiences really in line with your numbers? Do the pages load really slow? What experiences do you have with other carriers in your area?
For me, jumping around like I've been doing, its been a lot about the big picture. I was over all really happy with the Samsung Indulge. It's battery issues IMO are one of the worst in the industry. But they are being figured out. The issue for me was that I had to really battle with Samsung's customer service and the policy (?) of totally ignoring peoples questions. And then Metro started having the speed issues and won't acknowledge them as well.
I had a huge issue with Sprint regarding some outright lies they told me concerning joining them w/ my own phones and signing a contract. They refused to even throw me a bone even tho' IMO I was totally in the right. Then every person I spoke to was rude and uncaring. And my reception was awful. Bye bye.
My point is, there are going to be issues no matter where you go. Things should be looked at in their totality. People are upset about this phone, but I hear LG saying they know about them and are working to fix them. There are always gonna be people having connectivity issues....it's radio waves people. But three times I've called T mobile and three times I spoke with an american live person....win! And three times I left satisfied w/ my results. I've said several times, people are talking about being on their third and forth phones...how is that not great service? I'm sure LG and and T mobile are beside themselves over these issues, esp LG. This their flagship phone. You know they want it right.
I should have stopped typing after I asked the OP the question....sorry I can't help it. Imagine being my wife? After about two minutes of listening she gets this glassy look in her eyes ha ha!
I just think this phone and T mobile deserve a little defense. At this point, they're going to have to piss me off pretty bad, 'cause I'm very happy so far.

How do I enable HSUPA on Infuse 4G?

How do I enable HSUPA on the Infuse 4G? I had the Inspire 4G and to enable it I just had to edit the one line of the build.prop, but I'm not seeing a HSUPA in the build property file.
Anyone have any ideas?

bella92108 said:
How do I enable HSUPA on the Infuse 4G? I had the Inspire 4G and to enable it I just had to edit the one line of the build.prop, but I'm not seeing a HSUPA in the build property file.
Anyone have any ideas?
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already enabled

Dani897 said:
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Not on mine. Getting 384kbps upload capped like when I first got my Inspire 4G
Right next to it my Inspire 4G is getting 1.5mbps upload... so clearly the 384kbps just happens to be the cap for non HSUPA, lol

i get 2.2mbps down and 7ish up. though on speed test app i rarely get any better than you are getting. try using the web browser on speakeasy.com. the speed test apps dont really work that well on this phone for some reason

on settings the about phone then mobile network type, shouldnt it say HSPA+?
why do we have HSDPA? is it because we have a diffrent class form the atrix?

Transformer27 said:
on settings the about phone then mobile network type, shouldnt it say HSPA+?
why do we have HSDPA? is it because we have a diffrent class form the atrix?
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atrix has hsdpa+ they promised an update to enable full hspa+ to the atrix and the inspire. the infuse is supposed to be the first full hspa+ phone. just att changing there tune on things as verizon steals iphone customers. also it takes time to update the network to support that the traffic. as the backend get stronger they will budge more on regulations.

Hmm i still think it should say HSPA+. but either way i still get pretty decent down and up speeds.
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Hmm i still think it should say HSPA+. but either way i still get pretty decent down and up speeds.
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try speakeasy.com in the web browser. my phone agrees eith that much better. i was getting similar download to you or less on speedtest bt on speakeasy i get up to 7mbps down

i got about the same

it might be something odd about my area and att's servers. my area was all Cell1 towers and were only updated about christmas time. i only had edge up till then and the area has always been weird.

i think ever since i had cingular>att i have had 3G down here.

same here
I am getting around 6MBPS up and around 300KBPS down. I also tried the speakeasy.net with same results. I have checked the speed in many locations and I found only one area that was giving me 2.5MBPS up. The download speed is high in all locations. ATT store told me that is the way it is (faster than 3G).

Its already enable. If you are getting slow uploads is your tower, try it at different times and dates. I will get anywhere from 100 to 1.5mbps on different days and times.
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I have noticed that my speeds are the same as they were on the atrix. After the speed cap unlock.

Also keep in mind that ATT has just really started making the upgrades on their network from hspa to hspa+ just late last year and mostly in the centralized areas of major cities, starting with the standard backhaul of 14mb/s. Which is what the Inspire and Atrix are designed to run on. They are just barely starting to upgrade their network backhaul to the 21mb/s that T-Mo has already had in place on just about their entire since last year.
Now even though ATT has decided to go LTE, and while they are still slowing upgrading to 21mb/s hspa+, T-Mo has just started rolling out the next step up which is 42mb/s. It is with this that ATT plans to use as their regular next gen network when they purchase tmobile with real world speed of about 10mb/s down and 6mb/s up vs their 100mb/s LTE which has already been shown off to offer a real time download of about 25mb/s.

SSJ_Gomike said:
Also keep in mind that ATT has just really started making the upgrades on their network from hspa to hspa+ just late last year and mostly in the centralized areas of major cities, starting with the standard backhaul of 14mb/s. Which is what the Inspire and Atrix are designed to run on. They are just barely starting to upgrade their network backhaul to the 21mb/s that T-Mo has already had in place on just about their entire since last year.
Now even though ATT has decided to go LTE, and while they are still slowing upgrading to 21mb/s hspa+, T-Mo has just started rolling out the next step up which is 42mb/s. It is with this that ATT plans to use as their regular next gen network when they purchase tmobile with real world speed of about 10mb/s down and 6mb/s up vs their 100mb/s LTE which has already been shown off to offer a real time download of about 25mb/s.
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Yeah the issue is too coincidental that I'm capped at 384kbps... which is the cap of disabling HSUPA. My iPhone gets 1.1mbps upload, my Inspire 4G gets 1.2mbps upload, yet my Infuse gets 384kbps EVERY TIME? I call shenanigans.

bella92108 said:
Yeah the issue is too coincidental that I'm capped at 384kbps... which is the cap of disabling HSUPA. My iPhone gets 1.1mbps upload, my Inspire 4G gets 1.2mbps upload, yet my Infuse gets 384kbps EVERY TIME? I call shenanigans.
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it may be an issue with the radio firmware. there were articles about some protocall they use and blah blah. it might not work on the infuse in your particular area, but as you can see there are a few of us getting hsupa speeds and we did not do any special mods to our phones. i wish i could have a specific reason for you but that's just how att and technology in general work sometimes

Dani897 said:
it may be an issue with the radio firmware. there were articles about some protocall they use and blah blah. it might not work on the infuse in your particular area, but as you can see there are a few of us getting hsupa speeds and we did not do any special mods to our phones. i wish i could have a specific reason for you but that's just how att and technology in general work sometimes
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Boo, shady, hehe

Data speed sucks

So my data speed sucks horribly. I have good 4g coverage in my town. I just got a new sim card. I'm not stuck on 2g networks. I have the 4g data plan. Nothing is fixing it. The Rep at the T-Mobile store couldn't help me. Tried to warranty my phone and they're out of stock so he offered me a galagy s... no thanks. I dunno what to do. Any suggestions?
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Are you inside of a building?
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Ive tried it in various places around town. While in a car, in houses, outside of houses. Out of town. I get the same VERY low data speed everywhere I try no matter where I am.

It's not your phone, it's t- mobile's crappy network. I had the same issue, connected to 4g but with Edge download speeds. They're upgrading some of their backbone connections, but at a slow pace. My speeds are getting better, but it took months to get somewhat acceptable speeds. Go to a t-mobile some and do some speed tests side by side with another mt4g and a galaxy s, you'll see the same speeds on all the phones.
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It's not your phone, it's t- mobile's crappy network. I had the same issue, connected to 4g but with Edge download speeds. They're upgrading some of their backbone connections, but at a slow pace. My speeds are getting better, but it took months to get somewhat acceptable speeds. Go to a t-mobile some and do some speed tests side by side with another mt4g and a galaxy s, you'll see the same speeds on all the phones.
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Well thats good news, sorta haha. I will have to check out what other phones at the store are getting next time im there. The rep with the Galaxy S didnt mention his was slow too, I would think that he would have if it was. Mine has been slow like this for 1-2 months now. Its getting ridiculous. I paid for 4G data speeds and im not getting them.

T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.

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T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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Well that 14.4 isnt the speed you will hit. Its like a 56k modem never hitting 56k. They are two different measurements of speed or some stupid technical babble.

Jon C said:
T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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I have yet to understand why in Vancouver, Washington I have managed to get >10mbps down yet even Portland (Where there's supposed to be 42mb theoretical) I hardly get above 2mbps.
And before someone asks, no I was not on wifi.
on a side note, I beat a thunderbolt that was on 4G LTE in a speed test in Portland. I was pretty happy when that happened.

I have two bars of HSDPA and just got a screaming 256k download. Just about average for around here, so you guys should be feeling pretty happy.

This is why I am unhappy... my speeds are never higher than this.
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So my data speed sucks horribly. I have good 4g coverage in my town. I just got a new sim card. I'm not stuck on 2g networks. I have the 4g data plan. Nothing is fixing it. The Rep at the T-Mobile store couldn't help me. Tried to warranty my phone and they're out of stock so he offered me a galagy s... no thanks. I dunno what to do. Any suggestions?
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I guess it would depend on what you mean by data sucks. Is it slow because of high network traffic like during the busy day or slower than normal?
Second, are you stock or running custom roms/kernel?
Third, if your not stock did you flash a different radio?

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I guess it would depend on what you mean by data sucks. Is it slow because of high network traffic like during the busy day or slower than normal?
Second, are you stock or running custom roms/kernel?
Third, if your not stock did you flash a different radio?
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I posted a screenshot of my speeds in the last post of page 1. Its always that slow no matter when or where in town I do it. I even tired it out of town and still have that same speed. It wasnt that slow until about 2-3 months ago. Im usually somewhere that has wifi so im not 100% sure when it happened so thats just a guess. I am not stock. I have tried different roms, kernels, and all the radio versions and they all produce the same speeds.

The people at the T-Mobile store won't say anything about slow speeds, either because they have no clue or it's simply not good marketing to openly admit your network sucks. As long as they see that "H" or "4G" icon by the notification area they're like "Look, 4G speed!". Be a bit patient if you can, if not, seek a different provider. They are continuously upgrading their network. I had a direct face to face conversation with one of T-mo's network engineers, he gave me a rough idea of when the speeds would increase, so far he was right. I'm still not getting proper "4G" speeds, but it's better than what I used to get. I went through a two month ordeal before someone finally came clean about what was happening. The phone support people were useless and didn't have a clue of what was happening, always giving me the run around and asking me to call back in 3 days. Finally, after pestering them for weeks, one of their engineers came to do some field testing right where I was. That's when I finally got the straight story of what the deal was.

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The people at the T-Mobile store won't say anything about slow speeds, either because they have no clue or it's simply not good marketing to openly admit your network sucks. As long as they see that "H" or "4G" icon by the notification area they're like "Look, 4G speed!". Be a bit patient if you can, if not, seek a different provider. They are continuously upgrading their network. I had a direct face to face conversation with one of T-mo's network engineers, he gave me a rough idea of when the speeds would increase, so far he was right. I'm still not getting proper "4G" speeds, but it's better than what I used to get. I went through a two month ordeal before someone finally came clean about what was happening. The phone support people were useless and didn't have a clue of what was happening, always giving me the run around and asking me to call back in 3 days. Finally, after pestering them for weeks, one of their engineers came to do some field testing right where I was. That's when I finally got the straight story of what the deal was.
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Its already been months. This is getting unacceptable. I am paying $30 a month for my 4G data plan and its nowhere near the speeds it should be. Its so slow that I cant even use the GPS without it popping up with a blank map because it can not load it fast enough. I am a big T-Mobile fan and I prefer the GSM networks but if this does not change I will have no choice but to go with a different carrier. Most likely ATT because I do not want to give up my SIM card ability.

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You sure your not throttled
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100% positive im not throttled. Went to the T-Mobile store yesterday and confirmed it. They checked my account and my phone settings and couldn't find any reason for the slow speeds.

Try looking into changing your radio. It helped me a ton. Now I get 4G almost everywhere. Check android development for more info.
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I have hit 10MBit down and ~3.5Mbit down in some areas while some areas I get EDGE speeds though it clearly says 4G. I might have to give a shot with the radio... reception on this phone is not as good as my MT3G.

Ive tried all radios and ive tried checking my speeds out of town and I get no difference. I ended up buying a MT4G off ebay that for some reason the owner couldnt load a rom to but it will boot to clockwork recovery and the bootloader. Im going to see if I can revive it and im going to test my speeds on it and see if its the hardware inside of my phone that is the problem.

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I ended up buying a MT4G off ebay that for some reason the owner couldnt load a rom to but it will boot to clockwork recovery and the bootloader. Im going to see if I can revive it and im going to test my speeds on it and see if its the hardware inside of my phone that is the problem.
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Make sure it's not one of those with the "e: can't mount cache" errors, or that it at least has the engineering bootloader on it, otherwise that phone is toast.

AT&T One X Signal

So I'm returning my HTC One X anyway to AT&T this weekend because of the multitasking issues, but also because I really don't feel my signal is any better than T-Mobile's, so I'm going back to T-Mo...
My question is, what's the deal with the signal? Everyone says that (at least here in Las Vegas, NV) AT&T signal kills T-Mobile... Now don't get me wrong, when I had full bars of "4G LTE" it was insanely fast... but once it dropped down to 1 or 2 bars, the speed dropped way below what I normally get with T-Mo's HSPA+. On top of that, a lot of the time I'd be stuck with "4G" (no LTE) which seems to be the equivalent of T-Mo's Edge network... I did a speed test once with 3 or 4 bars (I forget) of "4G" and it was less than ONE MB/S. Sure I could make phone calls with that much signal but forget about data. Maybe a webpage or syncing my Gmail if I was lucky but certainly not Facebook.
So is that AT&T or HTC that's calling that slow speed "4G"? And am I right that "4G" (without LTE) is the equivalent of Edge? I was kinda thinking that "4G" was going to be somewhat equivalent to T-Mo's HSPA+, since everyone bags on it as not being nearly as good as LTE, but it's still pretty damn fast...
The reason I'm asking all this now, even though I'm returning the phone and jumping back to T-Mo within my 30 day grace period, is that when my contract is actually up, I may look to switch again still (unless T-Mo coverage really does get better as people are saying, and/or they get some really awesome phone choices). Sprint's out of the question, but maybe I'd give Verizon a try, but I'm wondering if maybe part of these signal quality questions I'm asking above have to do with the phone more and less AT&T and maybe I should give AT&T another try in the future...
Anyway, any feedback/suggestions are appreciated.

LTE is actually a 3g standard. It is blazing fast when you are close to an antenna, but falls off quick with distance. LTE is not 4g. Hspa+ is 4g.
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LTE is actually a 3g standard. It is blazing fast when you are close to an antenna, but falls off quick with distance. LTE is not 4g. Hspa+ is 4g.
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Actually you have that backwards, LTE is actually fourth gen, while hspa+ is more like 3.5, or commonly referred to as FAUX G. Just trying to help :thumbup:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
I have done somemore readingat the request of . I see that HSPA+ has received 4g status, so hat part I stand corrected.
LTE is still, by far, the faster future of handsets.
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Actually you have that backwards, LTE is actually fourth gen, while hspa+ is more like 3.5, or commonly referred to as FAUX G. Just trying to help :thumbup:
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I second this. ATT LTE is pretty Damn fast and I have it everywhere I go. 18 mb download speed is amazing. HSPA+ is just 3.5g in a sense.
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the kid is trolling obviously

I checked out the AT&T HTC One X in the store yesterday. They had 2 up on display, different colors. I have to say, absolute great build with the most gorgeous screen I have ever seen on a smartphone. But, the HSPA+ (3.5/4G not LTE) speeds were indeed atrocious - anywhere from 0.3 to 1.1 MB/s. Phones had almost full bars. Wonder what is up with that.

I'm in an hspa+ area and I'm happy with my speeds
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I'm in an hspa+ area and I'm happy with my speeds
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Those speeds look indeed good and they are what they are supposed to be on HSPA+. So how does the signal strength of this phone compare to the Samsung or Motorola phones? I had the captivate on AT&T and now the Nexus on Verizon and the signal strength on both was subpar. The signal strength on the Motorola bionic was outstanding.

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Those speeds look indeed good and they are what they are supposed to be on HSPA+. So how does the signal strength of this phone compare to the Samsung or Motorola phones? I had the captivate on AT&T and now the Nexus on Verizon and the signal strength on both was subpar. The signal strength on the Motorola bionic was outstanding.
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I had 2 out of 5 bars when I took that test I was shocked it was so good.
Also I've never had good tests inside an AT&T store. Lots of phones, all on, all competing for bandwidth

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I'm in an hspa+ area and I'm happy with my speeds
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Agreed, though this is a little faster than I have got on "4G", I have hit mid 5 Mb/s down and 1.2-3 Mp/s up. It obviously isn't LTE because I've got about 39 Mb/s down and 23 Mb/s on that, but it'll easily search web pages.

To be fair mine is on average 2-3 mbit down most of the time.

My hspa+ averages in the 5mb to 8mb , with speeds reaching up to 15 every now and then. LTE could be just around the corner for us, I can hardly wait. Of course tour reception is based on location, but compared to my many many phones I have had, I don't see this being any bettered worse than a majority of them.
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The phone seems to say 4G regardless of connection, using the Asian Rom that uses the H+ logo instead of AT&Ts 4G branding, even with 3-4 bars it constant would switch between 3G and H+ in areas without lte

So how is the phone reception overall compared to Samsung and Motorola?

so from what i just read it sounds like you're all saying that when the phone says "4G" and not "4G LTE" that it's really supposedly getting HSPA+ speeds? Cause no way is that the case in Las Vegas... Like I said, it's more like T-Mobile Edge. Definitely part of the reason I'm just returning the phone and going back... Because I get "4G" far more than I get "4G LTE" and when I do the speed is horrible...
This is also very strange because part of the reason I considered AT&T (aside from the HTC One X) is because all my friends with iPhones get great coverage and great speed, even without LTE, pretty much anywhere they go in Las Vegas. So I figured AT&T must just be awesome here in Las Vegas... Is it possible they somehow give iPhones priority signal or something?

polarbearmc said:
so from what i just read it sounds like you're all saying that when the phone says "4G" and not "4G LTE" that it's really supposedly getting HSPA+ speeds? Cause no way is that the case in Las Vegas... Like I said, it's more like T-Mobile Edge. Definitely part of the reason I'm just returning the phone and going back... Because I get "4G" far more than I get "4G LTE" and when I do the speed is horrible...
This is also very strange because part of the reason I considered AT&T (aside from the HTC One X) is because all my friends with iPhones get great coverage and great speed, even without LTE, pretty much anywhere they go in Las Vegas. So I figured AT&T must just be awesome here in Las Vegas... Is it possible they somehow give iPhones priority signal or something?
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personally I think its a couple bad HOX's out there. Mine sux in regards to signal and I cant run a speedtest to save my life. I've ran the 1.82 RUU, rooted and debloated and there is no difference for me. My buddy has one and has zero issues that im having so i have direct comparison and totally different results. I'm going to swap mine out this weekend and if I get another lemon i'll be getting a Note. I came from a Syrocket and from a signal perspective it blows MY HOX away.

bhyde said:
personally I think its a couple bad HOX's out there. Mine sux in regards to signal and I cant run a speedtest to save my life. I've ran the 1.82 RUU, rooted and debloated and there is no difference for me. My buddy has one and has zero issues that im having so i have direct comparison and totally different results. I'm going to swap mine out this weekend and if I get another lemon i'll be getting a Note. I came from a Syrocket and from a signal perspective it blows MY HOX away.
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i was thinking that too so i just went into the store to play with one, and while i can't test signal issues or the delayed notifications (a real pain in the ass), i could test the multitasking a bunch, and with absolutely no apps/games installed, it was a liiiiiiiittle better. i could get maps to stay up which i couldn't before, and sometimes when i went back to the browser it wouldn't need to reload, but only sometimes, but then i downloaded a couple games and neither one resumed. so i'm just gonna go leave it be. maybe the htc two x will work like android is supposed to.

I live in Vegas and the network rocks. No less than 20 meg in LTE and at least 3 in HSPA depending on signal.

Trolling for real. In no way is att 4g like edge .
I get 3-8 mb down on none lte In the twin cities
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seriously not trolling. i was asking an honest question because i jumped from t-mobile to at&t and i'm about to jump back because its so bad. see my original post for a more detailed description but yea, when its "4G" sometimes things just don't load at all (just like T-Mo's Edge), sometimes they take FOREVER (just like T-Mo's Edge) and the Facebook app is as good as dead (just like T-Mo's Edge)... And of course when I'm on "4G LTE" everything is blazing fast. It's like there's no middle ground. There's no just average good connection.