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[Q] What is the best radio for the Inspire 4g

I was wondering what is the best radio for our Inspire 4g's? I am not sure myself, and I haven't been able to find much if the inspire 4g is cross compatible with the Desire HD besides, roms and kernels. I am wondering mainly if I can install the radio 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M from the desire HD forum. I am not sure if it compatible or had any side effects / negative reprecussions.

You'll find that some say that a m2 or the m3 radio give you better battery life but I think that might be a placebo effect. I have the m3 which i have no problems with but I am saying that my good battery life goes towards the CM7 build 28! The radio may have something to do with it. If it does, it's very small if any.

moosefist said:
I was wondering what is the best radio for our Inspire 4g's? I am not sure myself, and I haven't been able to find much if the inspire 4g is cross compatible with the Desire HD besides, roms and kernels. I am wondering mainly if I can install the radio 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M from the desire HD forum. I am not sure if it compatible or had any side effects / negative reprecussions.
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That is the leaked gingerbread radio? I am running Coredroid v3.2 with leedroid kernel v2.2.8. I flashed that radio just experimenting. For me I had amazing signal better then the m2 and m3, but my battery life drained away like it was cool. Not doing anything on my phone (full charge no wifi no bluetooth, just data). Cell standby used about 20% of my battery in about 3 hours. With the m2 and m3 my cell stand by is around 11% after 15 hours.
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I use 26.06.04.14_M on Android Revolution 3.2 and I can't complain. Before that, I used the radio from attn1's root kit and had shotty reception. Since the upgrade, I've had full service. Don't let bars lie to you though. Check your signal strength in the "about phone" section of the settings menu. Watch the dB's - the close to 0, the better.

Going to flash 26.06.04.14_M as recommended in the revolution thread. How do you find battery life on it cblock? I'm very happy with the battery life on the stock radio that came loaded from at&t but I've dropped a few calls today which isn't normally a problem for me, hoping for a stronger signal from the new radio.
Side note, anyone know how to check what band the phone is running on, 850 or 1900?

What RADIO did you settle on and what result?

See post 1414 on this page. Hands down best radio I have used so far. I am in Florida if that really makes a difference. See pictures of GPS and Speeds. Not to mention the best rom IMHO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207&page=71

SNadler said:
See post 1414 on this page. Hands down best radio I have used so far. I am in Florida if that really makes a difference. See pictures of GPS and Speeds. Not to mention the best rom IMHO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207&page=71
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Where did you find the radio 12.41.60.19P_26.06.04.14_M?

mj0528 said:
Where did you find the radio 12.41.60.19P_26.06.04.14_M?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295

mj0528 said:
Where did you find the radio 12.41.60.19P_26.06.04.14_M?
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Hey my bad... Forgot to check back
Battery life is fantastic, especially if you're running Gingerbread. (I'm on cm nightly 32)
Here's the radio:
http://xda.ckgaming.co.uk/db_mirror/Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M.zip
All I can say is do the homework on flashing radios!

Yeah that's the Generic Gingerbread Radio. I flashed it about six hours ago. I have two Inspire's, too. One stock Radio and one with that radio. Where the Stock Radio is getting -110dbi 11asu, this new one gets -93dbi 4asu. Same location.
Not sure what asu is, though. But I do understand the db measurement.

arajay said:
first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
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He beat me

cblock214 said:
He beat me
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My bad. I was looking at that thread in another tab. Trying to get the best signal I can in Atlanta.
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help please....
I have an htc inspire 4g unlocked on t-mobile but sometimes the signal just desapears and comes back am wondering what radio would work better any help please...

Jeebus...guys I'm learning all this and having fun flashing new ROMS and trying to find one I can live with for more than a day
Other than my StreakDroid, I've flashed a few custom roms on my wife's captivate and now have the Inspire 4G and love it.
I keep reading ROM's that need Eng S-Off..with tutorials and guides. Then I read how dangerous it can be. I'm considering it and wasn't sure where else to ask this...but is it that risky?
Will the benefits be that much better by doing it? Can I get most custom ROMs to work with stock radio? I really want to do this, but damn, my wife's gonna kill me if I mess up another phone.

I just got my inspire today and rooted it and I'm running CM7 RC4 but flashed the radio listed in the forum but my upload speed still sucks at about 100, am I missing something

This is how I flash radios. works flawlessly. No need for eng-s off this way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
Here's the md5 checksum checker I use.
http://download.cnet.com/MD5-Checker/3000-2092_4-10410639.html?tag=mncol;1

arajay said:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
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Just loaded that radio. Fairly easy process. Thanks for the link to it though made it easier to find lol.

dkotoric said:
I just got my inspire today and rooted it and I'm running CM7 RC4 but flashed the radio listed in the forum but my upload speed still sucks at about 100, am I missing something
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I can't get any high than 150 up, and I am running cm7 and this radio as well. I have tried 2 other radios and had same issue. I never tried a speediest after first rooting, so I have no idea if I ever got better uploads.

I am getting -83dBm in columbia SC running the same radio.

How many people are running 2 2 1 with EP1Q radio

I ask this question because I'm running gummy Fe 2.0 with the EP1Q and I'm wondering if i switch back to ee4 radio if ill notice a difference at all
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I'm running gummy 2.0 with the EP1Q radio. No problems whatsoever.
The rom is independent from the modem from what I understand and I have been getting better service with this radio.

I just downloaded the EPQ1 radios yesterday as i was having some troubles with the 4g dropping and have had great signal so far. I will keep an eye on it and report back in a week. Of the phone calls I've made today, all were crystal clear and good volume so fingers are crossed that my problems are solved.

For me, there wasn't much of a difference
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It was better at holding the 4g signal but nothing else has been too noticeable. Still better then ee4, that **** switches between 3g/4g every 10 minutes.

I've been running gummy 2.0 with the epq1 with no problem at all
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I'm running gummy 1.9.1 with the EP1Q and it works fine but I hardly noticed any difference at all from the switch.
~John

Who says EP1Q is trouble some, Im loving it. I have been running since I was on 1.9, no voice issues either
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I have never hit speeds like this on EE4, ever. Not to mention 4G is more consistent with much less searching

well my issue is that i've been experiencing data drop out like crazy sometimes and ive read of other people experiencing the same issue. i think i'll just reflash the EP1Q radio and see if that helps

For me, EP1Q modem has less data dropouts (4G->3G-1X) for me. Also, if it changes, the transition is fast.

I can also vouch for EP1Q, the data stream is definitely more stable in general, though I haven't really noticed any considerable speed improvements.

I only had the signal totally drop out on me once on EP1Q this past weekend but it quickly came back. Then again, they have said that they sent one of those roving techs to check my area and they have admitted my area needs a tower but they need to get approval from the higher-ups to install one.
Apparently Verizon has been doing a lot of work in my area according to some press release in which they are expanding 4G coverage in my area. They say that by Sept. 15th I should be seeing 4G in more places across my city. All I can say is that I'm happy to see that.
Oh, and I'm glad I have unlimited data since I've noticed that doing any kind of streaming anything, especially NetFlix can eat through data like nothing I've ever seen. That and Slacker Radio can cause you to eat data.

ddemlong said:
Who says EP1Q is trouble some, Im loving it. I have been running since I was on 1.9, no voice issues either
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I have never hit speeds like this on EE4, ever. Not to mention 4G is more consistent with much less searching
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I thought the GB leak modems weren't accurate with speed tests? Or was that just the leak itself. Also....
jmorton10 said:
I'm running gummy 1.9.1 with the EP1Q and it works fine but I hardly noticed any difference at all from the switch.
~John
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WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!

blarrick said:
I thought the GB leak modems weren't accurate with speed tests? Or was that just the leak itself. Also....
WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!
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Yeah the GB modems just didn't play well with the speedtest app itself.
However, going to the speakeasy speedtest site via your browser produces accurate results.

What is the baseband name for ep1q modems? I flahsed the q modems but my baseband version stayed the same. Either the flash didn't take or I already had them. Im on gummy2.0
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blarrick said:
WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!
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I thought about it, but my system runs perfectly and after looking at what 2.0 gives you I don't really see anything I care about.
I could care less about 7 different lock screens, I did the tweak to totally eliminate the lock screen. I tried the imoseon kernel briefly, but I kinda prefer the more saturated colors and ended up swapping back.
I think over clocking is a waste of time after trying it for a while, so unless I am missing something I don't really see what I would gain from the 2.0 swap although I am certainly open to suggestions??
~John

jmorton10 said:
I thought about it, but my system runs perfectly and after looking at what 2.0 gives you I don't really see anything I care about.
I could care less about 7 different lock screens, I did the tweak to totally eliminate the lock screen. I tried the imoseon kernel briefly, but I kinda prefer the more saturated colors and ended up swapping back.
I think over clocking is a waste of time after trying it for a while, so unless I am missing something I don't really see what I would gain from the 2.0 swap although I am certainly open to suggestions??
~John
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its just more polished and stable.

msticlaru said:
its just more polished and stable.
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I'm not sure how it could be any more stable than my system. Mine runs weeks at a time without a single freezeup or reboot if I want.
When you say it is "more polished", are you just talking about visual tweaks??
I must have changed ROMs 50 times when I had a TouchPro 2 and every time it was a noticeable improvement so I'm not opposed to switching for a good reason. My system now runs so well however, I don't really see any compelling reason to update just because a new version is out.
~John

jmorton10 said:
I'm not sure how it could be any more stable than my system. Mine runs weeks at a time without a single freezeup or reboot if I want.
When you say it is "more polished", are you just talking about visual tweaks??
I must have changed ROMs 50 times when I had a TouchPro 2 and every time it was a noticeable improvement so I'm not opposed to switching for a good reason. My system now runs so well however, I don't really see any compelling reason to update just because a new version is out.
~John
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While there is no need to convince you as people can choose to run whatever version of whatever rom they want, I find it curious that you would choose to not update. It seems to me that the type of people that generally visit these forums and mess with their devices are the same type of people that generally want things when they are updated.
That aside...
1.9.1
*Fixed misc theme issues across the overall theme
*Removed AM/PM from the status-bar clock
2.0
*Custom kernel by IMoseyON
*TSMparts for modifications (more information below on usage)
*updated toolbox for simplicity (sorry no GUI 2.0 released at this time)
*updated base Theme (we did switch to a blue to give 2.0 a new look as it feels like a new rom)
*updated dialer completely remade to have the contacts built into the app
The updated kernel provides additional stability fixes and fluidity to the UI.
TSM parts is a very handy tool to have.
the update to the base theme gives the phone a more professional feel to it. (i.e. polish) the dialer is vastly better than the pervious.
Again, if you choose not to update, so be it. I could not care less one way or the other. You seem like an intelligent person, so you would know best what works for you.
To get this thread back on topic....
I am running the ep1q radios but as I mentioned earlier, I cant seem to find how to determine what version you are actually running. My Baseband version did not change when i updated the radios. I would like to say I am getting better performance.. but its hard to know if its the radios, or something else.
Any chance that one of you knows how to determine the radio that is installed?

msticlaru said:
While there is no need to convince you as people can choose to run whatever version of whatever rom they want, I find it curious that you would choose to not update. It seems to me that the type of people that generally visit these forums and mess with their devices are the same type of people that generally want things when they are updated
Again, if you choose not to update, so be it. I could not care less one way or the other. You seem like an intelligent person, so you would know best what works for you.
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Actually, I'm usually as you say the kind of person that immediately updates everything as soon as possible. My system runs so well however, I just wasn't sure it was worth going through the PITA of setting up the whole system again.
Now, after reading your post however I may have to rethink that. If the system really will run better/more efficiently etc. I guess you have me getting the itch to update again.... ;-)
It seems like I have been working a million hours a week lately (I'm an IT Administrator among other things) but if/when I ever get some spare time I guess I will just get to it and update."....
~John

WiFi tether problems? Fixed mine like this.

I am on 3.1 beta 6
Mine did not work until I changed the device profile to Thunderbolt in settings.
Then I changed a few other settings such as
Force WiFi driver reloading (check) *has worked for some*
Routing fix (check) *most important one*
Disable wake-lock (unchecked) -> *this is why you lose connection after your screen turns off*
Hope this helps get a few of you tethering again. I am using jdk new source sense based 1.0 kernel but have tested this on Imo 3.8, 4.1 and 5.0 and worked just fine.
4g was blazing fast to my Droid inc tethered to my Thunderbolt without the 4g power drain.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button

Grnlantern79 said:
Disable wake-lock (unchecked) -> this is why you lose connection after your screen turns off.
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I've never understood that setting and it's default like that. Even Cyanogen copied it.... Why do you have to keep 'using' your phone in order to keep the screen on so that WiFi doesn't shutdown ? Android can multi-task, can it not ?
If there is active usage on WiFi, it should NOT shut off. But it will...

I was told there isn't a way or app to tether w/o getting charged by Verizon anymore.
I'm on stock, but I'm rooted. Is it possible? Best apps? Thank you.
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You were lied to

system6 said:
I was told there isn't a way or app to tether w/o getting charged by Verizon anymore.
I'm on stock, but I'm rooted. Is it possible? Best apps? Thank you.
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http://db.tt/nZTglF9n app I use. Follow my directions to use.
If I helped please use the thank you button and donate a free account to my dropbox http://db.tt/uDc7iw7x

system6 said:
I was told there isn't a way or app to tether w/o getting charged by Verizon anymore.
I'm on stock, but I'm rooted. Is it possible? Best apps?
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I just use default CM7 by ProTekk (Find it under "Unofficial Cyanogen Builds" with Rom Manager). The built in tethering (Both USB & WiFi) works like a charm for me without having to utilize 3rd party apps.

Thanks for the post! Picked up a Thunderbolt recently and spent the last couple days trying to get android-wifi-tether to work. The last piece of the puzzle for me was checking "Routing fix" per your suggestion.

thanks for this thread,I just picked up a thunderbolt also, got tired of my iPhone 4 .. I have been trying to tether for the last day, going to try this out now.

Anyone else having speed issues in AP mode? Ad-hoc works well but in AP it is painfully slow (sub-3g speeds). I've tried every combination of settings in wifi tether and no luck..
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Can't figure out the problem yet, but i can't get 4g tether speeds (or connectivity half the time) from any 605.5 based rom. Yes i checked for tetherguard.apk to make sure that wasn't my issue. Even the newest AOSP roms (which i know aren't based on that) won't let me get a good connection. I have since reverted back to a 605.3 and 605.0 based and are not having problems. I also tried multiple combos of roms/radios too to see if i could narrow it down and haven't found anything significant. Its possible its just my phone being screwy as i haven't had any of the reboot issues to its about time for some problem! Its working for me now, but if anyone finds out anything about it, let me know, i wouldn't mind testing it.

ROM - Bamf forever 1.9
WiFi tether here http://db.tt/nZTglF9n with settings listed above new
imo kernel 5.0 from GB source. Use the settings above for reference to how to get it working. Here is a snap shot of my daughter Droid incredible running off my 4G x 3 test. Along with my thunderbolt getting similar speeds.
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Yea, thats what i used to get with all, but can't seem to with the newest sense or AOSP roms/kernels and newest radios but can fine with older roms/kernels/radios. Same settings. I'm just lost at what else to try. Like i said, quite possible its my bolt hating me.

nbdysreal said:
Yea, thats what i used to get with all, but can't seem to with the newest sense or AOSP roms/kernels and newest radios but can fine with older roms/kernels/radios. Same settings. I'm just lost at what else to try. Like i said, quite possible its my bolt hating me.
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I would just move back I don't like sense 3.5 on this phone. Sense 3.0 work just fine with everything I want working. Sense 3.5 is fun to try but it is not made for this phone. To much stuff needs to be tweaked for it to function with all the extras we have gotten use to. It's kinda like Droid incredible running sense 3.0 it was slow and sense 3.5 is even slower on that phone. I will stick with Bamf forever since its a smooth ROM and everything i need works on this ROM. Battery life is same as stock if not a little better I can get 10 hours of constant use with WiFi or 3g but anything more is pushing it. Bamf makes great roms but i don't see 3.5 as a daily driver for me. Maybe once rezound launches we will get something that works better with our phones well my phone. 3.5 had that worse battery and most laggy of any roms I have tried and did everything i could think of to tweak it. I tried all 3 roms out at this point, Son of a bliss, invigorated, and gingerbliss
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Thanks a lot!

worked for me

Grnlantern79 said:
I would just move back I don't like sense 3.5 on this phone. Sense 3.0 work just fine with everything I want working. Sense 3.5 is fun to try but it is not made for this phone. To much stuff needs to be tweaked for it to function with all the extras we have gotten use to. It's kinda like Droid incredible running sense 3.0 it was slow and sense 3.5 is even slower on that phone. I will stick with Bamf forever since its a smooth ROM and everything i need works on this ROM. Battery life is same as stock if not a little better I can get 10 hours of constant use with WiFi or 3g but anything more is pushing it. Bamf makes great roms but i don't see 3.5 as a daily driver for me. Maybe once rezound launches we will get something that works better with our phones well my phone. 3.5 had that worse battery and most laggy of any roms I have tried and did everything i could think of to tweak it. I tried all 3 roms out at this point, Son of a bliss, invigorated, and gingerbliss
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Yeah, i moved back prior to posting. Weird things i have notices are prior to 605.5 the settings you had worked, as thats what i've been using. I went to a stock 605.5 and to killsense and neither of those worked with those settings. So i started messing around with settings and found that the reload wifi drivers unchecked alleviated my problems. Wifi tethered, laptop was ranging from .4 - .6 down, now is back to the old 17-28 down. So if its not working for someone else, toggle settings till it does work.

thanks, bud! it works great for me.

Worked as stated...thanks!

Grnlantern79 said:
ROM - Bamf forever 1.9
WiFi tether here http://db.tt/nZTglF9n with settings listed above new
imo kernel 5.0 from GB source. Use the settings above for reference to how to get it working. Here is a snap shot of my daughter Droid incredible running off my 4G x 3 test. Along with my thunderbolt getting similar speeds.
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Thanks for all your work on this. Is this app written by you?
Is there any version of this app in the Marketplace?
Do you know the original source of this app?
You may pm if it is a secret. It looks fantastic but I don't like putting something on my phone if I have no idea what its source is. I know too little about code from unknown sources to "trust it". I've never really seen any app or rom discussed in which the developer's ID (or at least internet ID) was a secret.

I answered this for you over at rootzwiki
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Latest Radio and RIL won't work...

So I'm running CM7 (S-OFF) and I upgraded to the latest radio 12.62.60.27P_26.13.04.19 M.zip and I then flashed the correlating RIL (HTC-RIL 2.2.0179HM (Aug 17 2011,15:24:58)) in CMW (and I remember to mount "system"). When I do this however, I get a X over my signal strength and when I go into Wireless & networks I see that "Airplane Mode" is enabled and is unable to be disabled (when I uncheck it it says "loading" or something but never changes). I basically have no signal... and RIL infos displayer shows this... only a RIL, no radio...
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When I flash an older RIL or just don't flash any RIL at all and leave CM7's default I have a signal and RIL displayer shows this...
I'm really at a loss for why that RIL won't work... I have a dual APN setting and a GPS fix I flash but I believe I've tried to get this working with those defaulted...
Any advice?

I have no advice for you other than to say that I have had the same problem. I flashed the 160 ril and have had good results with the radio performance, at least where I live.
If i'm not mistaken the 13.04.19 radio is for the desire hd. The latest radio release for the inspire was the 10.04.03. Don't
know if this has anything to do with it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285645
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253724
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996630&page=40

You guys should not be flashing any new RILs in CM7. The whole "match the radio to the RIL" thing does not really apply to CM7. It has a special AOSP RIL (version 2.2.0018G) that matches the ROM, and it works well with all radios. Besides, there are known issues that can sometimes crop up when using HM RILs in CM7.
BTW the latest official radio for Inspire/AT&T is 26.10.04.03, and I suggest using that one for a while and judge your results before you go off flashing other radios. 26.10.04.03 should work great for you.

henrybravo said:
The whole "match the radio to the RIL" thing does not really apply to CM7. It has a special AOSP RIL (version 2.2.0018G) that matches the ROM, and it works well with all radios. Besides, there are known issues that can sometimes crop up when using HM RILs in CM7.
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Really? Thanks for the info I wasn't aware of that.
I have actually used a lot of the info in your other APN/Radio related posts henrybravo, so thanks for the help! (both past and present)

I have to say thank you as well. I have been doing a lot of reading on this forum since I got my Inspire, and this is the first I have heard about the HM rils not working well with CM7.
I do have to say that the 160 ril I was using did not cause any unusual problems for me other than the normal CM7 issues. I flashed the 18G ril last night after reading your posts.
Thank you for the information and the time to answer and correct me.
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sutehk said:
I have to say thank you as well. I have been doing a lot of reading on this forum since I got my Inspire, and this is the first I have heard about the HM rils
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The "RIL" is a shared library compiled from a specific source tree. It should never be changed from the stock one that came with your ROM as subtle differences in compiling can have negative effects. It should ESPECIALLY not be mixed between HTC Sense and CM7 (or AOSP) builds since the source trees are considerably different.
In short, there's really no reason to mess with radio/ril at all.

Thank you Gene. Question with that all being said, should I reflash the ROM since I was playing with the rils?
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sutehk said:
Thank you Gene. Question with that all being said, should I reflash the ROM since I was playing with the rils?
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You only need the ril files from the ROM zip. If you know you're way around linux and know how to mount your system r/w (or use adb push in recovery) you can just replace the ril files, or even just push the whole lib dir, but otherwise, reflashing the ROM will do it (no need to wipe data).

Alright I'm all straightened out now. Thanks Gene for taking the time to explain and answer questions.
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allstar21369 said:
I have actually used a lot of the info in your other APN/Radio related posts henrybravo, so thanks for the help! (both past and present)
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Glad to help. Hopefully I've never led you astray.

Although I knew about not changing the RIL in cyanogenmod ROMS I had to search hard to find this information to post the links in the second post. If you actually read the radio/ril threads and even the opening post in the CM DEV threads they do not mention or warn about this. Matter of fact some mention that it is ok to flash new RILs. This is some very important info that the DEVs seem to leave out.

I was wondering this myself earlier. Is this potentially the big issue with the CM7 ROMs? I know when I got started, it seemed as though the recommended ril was the best overall. However due to location, each persons mileage may vary. This not being the case, are to many people playing around too much and causing allot of the GPS and radio problems associated with the cyanogen ROMs?
I may be over thinking this.
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In my opinion radios and rils being location dependant is untrue. I believe it is best to keep the RIL that matches the base ROM and use the cooresponding Radio. It makes no sense why the latest ATT radio would work any different with respect to what ATT towers you are connected. If it was true then all phones from all manufacturers would have to have tweaked radios/modems to match their location.
But I have seen many times where people have changed radios and rils on cyanogenmod ROMS and had issues or no data at all. To me that tells me that the RILS and Radios are tied to the drivers in the base ROM.

Gene Poole said:
The "RIL" is a shared library compiled from a specific source tree. It should never be changed from the stock one that came with your ROM as subtle differences in compiling can have negative effects. It should ESPECIALLY not be mixed between HTC Sense and CM7 (or AOSP) builds since the source trees are considerably different.
In short, there's really no reason to mess with radio/ril at all.
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I believe that was what Gene was trying to say here in his post.
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Rooted Sensation & T-Mobile WiFi Calling

I have a rooted Sensation 4G with T-Mobile. I haven't yet installed a custom ROM. I'm still running the stock Android 2.3.4 and HTC Sense 3.0.
One reason is that I use the T-Mobile WiFi calling app extensively. It works seamlessly, popping up and taking over anytime I have access to a WiFi network.
I'd like to upgrade to a custom ICS ROM, but am concerned that I will lose the T-Mobile app in the process, and I read that there is no good replacement yet that works well with ICS.
Is that true? Does anyone use this or have a good alternative? What are other possible solutions?
Also, T-Mobile/HTC are going to push out the ICS update soon to the Sensation. I'm assuming they will have a working solution for this. What happens if I download that official update onto my rooted phone, that also has an unlocked bootloader? Will it unroot, and relock the phone? or will it cause problems?
Any advice would be appreciated!

harru said:
I have a rooted Sensation 4G with T-Mobile. I haven't yet installed a custom ROM. I'm still running the stock Android 2.3.4 and HTC Sense 3.0.
One reason is that I use the T-Mobile WiFi calling app extensively. It works seamlessly, popping up and taking over anytime I have access to a WiFi network.
I'd like to upgrade to a custom ICS ROM, but am concerned that I will lose the T-Mobile app in the process, and I read that there is no good replacement yet that works well with ICS.
Is that true? Does anyone use this or have a good alternative? What are other possible solutions?
Also, T-Mobile/HTC are going to push out the ICS update soon to the Sensation. I'm assuming they will have a working solution for this. What happens if I download that official update onto my rooted phone, that also has an unlocked bootloader? Will it unroot, and relock the phone? or will it cause problems?
Any advice would be appreciated!
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If you really depend on wifi calling the then I would wait for the oficial OTA. Wifi calling is still a hit and miss with custom ICS roms. Otherwise the roms are great.

I had this same issue. I couldn't get WiFi calling to work with any ics rom (when I asked a question on xda about it, I was basically told hwa and dual core support was more important than a lower monthly bill and being able to make reliable phone calls while at home. I'm not on an unlimited plan). If you want a custom Rom that works pretty good, arhd gingerbread is pretty good and I use WiFi calling on it all the time. I can usually use it for 4 or 5 days before I need to restart it. (thats not battery life, by the way) Ics roms at the moment don't seem to be really optimized for USA sensation users. Not really the developers fault because as far as I know, we have no recognized USA sensation Rom developers so it's not really a priority for them. I could be wrong about that though. Not sure about the bootloader relocking (i don't think so but don't quote me on that) but you will lose root. The US ics update will be here "soon" and I am going to wait for a flashable, pre rooted stock rom to come out.
This is just my opinion and experience.

wi fi calling Tmobile
I guess its hit and miss but I am a Tmobile customer and I'm rooted WITH a custom ROM and my Wi-Fi calling WORKS! I guess I got lucky somehow. I'm running Android 4.0.3 and VIRTUOUS Inquisition 4.0.2. .it seems everything is working as it should be. I don't know if this is the case for all Virtuous 4.0.2 users. All I can say is it works FOR ME..I'm very happy about that too. Also hotspots, tethering works too.I don't know about other users, but its all been functioning for me.

I have used two ICS custom ROMs ARHD and RMS DX4. On both my WiFi calling worked just as it always has. RMS DX4 was a beta ROM, yet on both v1.0.0 and v1.0.1 WiFi calling gave me no troubles.
Now at harru, you really should refrain from starting two threads on pretty much the same thing in one day.

It works for me as well but it drops calls. Doesn't matter how good of a reception I have of wifi it'll still drop. I also have horrible service at home, but its fine once I force it on 2G and turn wifi on.
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I believe wifi calling works fairly well on my phone running HyperNonSense. Just gotta install the extra add-on.
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|ChauMein| said:
I believe wifi calling works fairly well on my phone running HyperNonSense. Just gotta install the extra add-on.
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This. It works like a charm for me with HyperNonSense. I've never had a single problem with it.
But other people can't get it to work at all. I'm certainly not doing anything special. So it seems like it's luck of the draw

Yeah at least on ICS I have no luck with WiFi calling, I can make one call & then it just force closes, installed 3.0 and it works flawless, I'm just waiting for the ics update to drop then hopefully we'll get it cooked in a rom
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I'm working with a stock install of ARHD with Faux's kernel. At first, I thought wifi calling worked great. I did a test call for a few seconds right away, and it was fine. But as I found out later on, it would show wifi calling, but calls wouldn't come in. Placing an outgoing call fails to connect, and then it drops to cell for half a minute, before it "reconnects" to wifi calling. And then it'd fail again.
Another thing I noticed with wifi calling was I would lose time at the rate of roughly a minute an hour. I noticed this when texting. Since the stock presentation in ARHD is to use carrier timestamps, I could be engaged in SMS conversation, and see my outgoing texts get put before prior incoming texts, because my clock would be slow. I could toggle wifi off and back on (go back to cell and trigger time syncing) and catch up again. Afterwards, I'd again lose a minute or so an hour until I did it again.

Of some help
I don't know if it helps a whole lot, but I just rooted my T-Mobile G2x and loaded the Hellfire ROM giving me Android 4.0 and the wifi calling works with no snags, it also took my Quadrant score from the usual 1600+ to anywhere between 2400-2800. It showed as being faster than a Galaxy Tab 10.1, I Love it!!!