How many people are running 2 2 1 with EP1Q radio

How many people are running 2 2 1 with EP1Q radio - Verizon Droid Charge

I ask this question because I'm running gummy Fe 2.0 with the EP1Q and I'm wondering if i switch back to ee4 radio if ill notice a difference at all
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I'm running gummy 2.0 with the EP1Q radio. No problems whatsoever.
The rom is independent from the modem from what I understand and I have been getting better service with this radio.

I just downloaded the EPQ1 radios yesterday as i was having some troubles with the 4g dropping and have had great signal so far. I will keep an eye on it and report back in a week. Of the phone calls I've made today, all were crystal clear and good volume so fingers are crossed that my problems are solved.

For me, there wasn't much of a difference
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It was better at holding the 4g signal but nothing else has been too noticeable. Still better then ee4, that **** switches between 3g/4g every 10 minutes.

I've been running gummy 2.0 with the epq1 with no problem at all
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I'm running gummy 1.9.1 with the EP1Q and it works fine but I hardly noticed any difference at all from the switch.
~John

Who says EP1Q is trouble some, Im loving it. I have been running since I was on 1.9, no voice issues either
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I have never hit speeds like this on EE4, ever. Not to mention 4G is more consistent with much less searching

well my issue is that i've been experiencing data drop out like crazy sometimes and ive read of other people experiencing the same issue. i think i'll just reflash the EP1Q radio and see if that helps

For me, EP1Q modem has less data dropouts (4G->3G-1X) for me. Also, if it changes, the transition is fast.

I can also vouch for EP1Q, the data stream is definitely more stable in general, though I haven't really noticed any considerable speed improvements.

I only had the signal totally drop out on me once on EP1Q this past weekend but it quickly came back. Then again, they have said that they sent one of those roving techs to check my area and they have admitted my area needs a tower but they need to get approval from the higher-ups to install one.
Apparently Verizon has been doing a lot of work in my area according to some press release in which they are expanding 4G coverage in my area. They say that by Sept. 15th I should be seeing 4G in more places across my city. All I can say is that I'm happy to see that.
Oh, and I'm glad I have unlimited data since I've noticed that doing any kind of streaming anything, especially NetFlix can eat through data like nothing I've ever seen. That and Slacker Radio can cause you to eat data.

ddemlong said:
Who says EP1Q is trouble some, Im loving it. I have been running since I was on 1.9, no voice issues either
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I have never hit speeds like this on EE4, ever. Not to mention 4G is more consistent with much less searching
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I thought the GB leak modems weren't accurate with speed tests? Or was that just the leak itself. Also....
jmorton10 said:
I'm running gummy 1.9.1 with the EP1Q and it works fine but I hardly noticed any difference at all from the switch.
~John
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WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!

blarrick said:
I thought the GB leak modems weren't accurate with speed tests? Or was that just the leak itself. Also....
WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!
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Yeah the GB modems just didn't play well with the speedtest app itself.
However, going to the speakeasy speedtest site via your browser produces accurate results.

What is the baseband name for ep1q modems? I flahsed the q modems but my baseband version stayed the same. Either the flash didn't take or I already had them. Im on gummy2.0
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blarrick said:
WHY AREN'T YOU ON 2.0?! Madness!
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I thought about it, but my system runs perfectly and after looking at what 2.0 gives you I don't really see anything I care about.
I could care less about 7 different lock screens, I did the tweak to totally eliminate the lock screen. I tried the imoseon kernel briefly, but I kinda prefer the more saturated colors and ended up swapping back.
I think over clocking is a waste of time after trying it for a while, so unless I am missing something I don't really see what I would gain from the 2.0 swap although I am certainly open to suggestions??
~John

jmorton10 said:
I thought about it, but my system runs perfectly and after looking at what 2.0 gives you I don't really see anything I care about.
I could care less about 7 different lock screens, I did the tweak to totally eliminate the lock screen. I tried the imoseon kernel briefly, but I kinda prefer the more saturated colors and ended up swapping back.
I think over clocking is a waste of time after trying it for a while, so unless I am missing something I don't really see what I would gain from the 2.0 swap although I am certainly open to suggestions??
~John
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its just more polished and stable.

msticlaru said:
its just more polished and stable.
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I'm not sure how it could be any more stable than my system. Mine runs weeks at a time without a single freezeup or reboot if I want.
When you say it is "more polished", are you just talking about visual tweaks??
I must have changed ROMs 50 times when I had a TouchPro 2 and every time it was a noticeable improvement so I'm not opposed to switching for a good reason. My system now runs so well however, I don't really see any compelling reason to update just because a new version is out.
~John

jmorton10 said:
I'm not sure how it could be any more stable than my system. Mine runs weeks at a time without a single freezeup or reboot if I want.
When you say it is "more polished", are you just talking about visual tweaks??
I must have changed ROMs 50 times when I had a TouchPro 2 and every time it was a noticeable improvement so I'm not opposed to switching for a good reason. My system now runs so well however, I don't really see any compelling reason to update just because a new version is out.
~John
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While there is no need to convince you as people can choose to run whatever version of whatever rom they want, I find it curious that you would choose to not update. It seems to me that the type of people that generally visit these forums and mess with their devices are the same type of people that generally want things when they are updated.
That aside...
1.9.1
*Fixed misc theme issues across the overall theme
*Removed AM/PM from the status-bar clock
2.0
*Custom kernel by IMoseyON
*TSMparts for modifications (more information below on usage)
*updated toolbox for simplicity (sorry no GUI 2.0 released at this time)
*updated base Theme (we did switch to a blue to give 2.0 a new look as it feels like a new rom)
*updated dialer completely remade to have the contacts built into the app
The updated kernel provides additional stability fixes and fluidity to the UI.
TSM parts is a very handy tool to have.
the update to the base theme gives the phone a more professional feel to it. (i.e. polish) the dialer is vastly better than the pervious.
Again, if you choose not to update, so be it. I could not care less one way or the other. You seem like an intelligent person, so you would know best what works for you.
To get this thread back on topic....
I am running the ep1q radios but as I mentioned earlier, I cant seem to find how to determine what version you are actually running. My Baseband version did not change when i updated the radios. I would like to say I am getting better performance.. but its hard to know if its the radios, or something else.
Any chance that one of you knows how to determine the radio that is installed?

msticlaru said:
While there is no need to convince you as people can choose to run whatever version of whatever rom they want, I find it curious that you would choose to not update. It seems to me that the type of people that generally visit these forums and mess with their devices are the same type of people that generally want things when they are updated
Again, if you choose not to update, so be it. I could not care less one way or the other. You seem like an intelligent person, so you would know best what works for you.
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Actually, I'm usually as you say the kind of person that immediately updates everything as soon as possible. My system runs so well however, I just wasn't sure it was worth going through the PITA of setting up the whole system again.
Now, after reading your post however I may have to rethink that. If the system really will run better/more efficiently etc. I guess you have me getting the itch to update again.... ;-)
It seems like I have been working a million hours a week lately (I'm an IT Administrator among other things) but if/when I ever get some spare time I guess I will just get to it and update."....
~John

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What a great phone.

Coming from Captivate, the inspire Is like the best phone I have ever used. So smooth and snappy. Everything just works, especially GPS. Even stock rom with all the att bloatware was great.
Can't explain the performance. the specs are pretty similar btw the two phones. my captivate could slow down even with the best roms.
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gordec said:
Coming from Captivate, the inspire Is like the best phone I have ever used. So smooth and snappy. Everything just works, especially GPS. Even stock rom with all the att bloatware was great.
Can't explain the performance. the specs are pretty similar btw the two phones. my captivate could slow down even with the best roms.
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+1 I love my Inspire so much. I'm staying strictly full original with mine. This machine is just a pure gorgeous pleasure to use. There's something to say about grabbing ahold of cold metal. It just feels significant. The same goes for the lowly HTC Freestyle, which I looked at in the store. It also is made from metal.

I too am a big fan of the phone. This was the big winner in my Atrix vs Inspire shootout. There's a thread about it.
One of my main issues was the battery life. That was a real sticking point for me on the Inspire. However, after switching to Leedroid's rom with SetCPU on the default (smartass) setting, I'm currently at 45 hours with 4 hours of awake time, and 30% of my battery left... It's ridiculous.

I'm on revolution 3.3. I wonder if set cpu works also. I'm getting full day of average use without an issue right now with stock.
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I think that depends on if they used an OC kernel. LeeDroid explains explicitly that he developed several presets for SetCPU for different situations.

gordec said:
Coming from Captivate, the inspire Is like the best phone I have ever used. So smooth and snappy. Everything just works, especially GPS. Even stock rom with all the att bloatware was great.
Can't explain the performance. the specs are pretty similar btw the two phones. my captivate could slow down even with the best roms.
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While they are similar spec wise, the performance of this phone is faaaar better. Here's my Quadrant on one of the CM7 Nightlies.
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I love this phone!! Seriously, the best phone I've owned to date and exactly what I was looking for. Super fast and very responsive.. not one single complaint here(other then speaker volume, but I'll live )

jmichael15 said:
I love this phone!! Seriously, the best phone I've owned to date and exactly what I was looking for. Super fast and very responsive.. not one single complaint here(other then speaker volume, but I'll live )
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I had some concerns about the speaker volume also. But they've alleviated because all stock Inspires do it. It's something to do with an automatic control where the volume is initially low and then progressively gets louder as any sound remains going. I can live with it also, since I know it's a common thing and not a fault in my specific unit.
Beyond this, I would say this is the utmost flagship model for Android. There's something to be said about the cold feel of metal which these are made of. It just seems significant. I wish the other companies would get in on the metal uni-body design.

Odd, I love my Inspire, but the one problem I do have is the GPS. I can rarely get locks, regardless of radio or ROM. Have found no fix for this unfortunately

Billabong81 said:
Odd, I love my Inspire, but the one problem I do have is the GPS. I can rarely get locks, regardless of radio or ROM. Have found no fix for this unfortunately
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I would get it replaced. Mine is perfect on stock and with Revolution 3.3.
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Yeah... I've used 3 different roms, aside from stock, and my GPS has worked perfectly with each.

Billabong81 said:
Odd, I love my Inspire, but the one problem I do have is the GPS. I can rarely get locks, regardless of radio or ROM. Have found no fix for this unfortunately
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Sorry to hear! I've messed around with the GPS since I've had it and I haven't had any big issues with it. What impresses me even more is that even with GPS disabled and network location on, it shows a spot within 5-15ft from me!! Almost dead on exact without GPS on lol, I love this phone!!!!

GPS has been hit or miss on depending on rom. MIUI, shoshkai (sp?), dillagif 0.1 only (sp?), and now cognition 1.0.1. All of the others haven't worked so well in terms of GPS.

So I've had approximate 5 Captivates since last July and thinking about getting AT&T to let me switch phones since I've had so many problems.. Tech support said, and I quote "Yeah we've had a lot of problems with these phones, and I'm hoping the S2 can save face for Samsung" - NICE!
Fellow Captivate owners - Is the Inspire the one to go with over the Atrix?
From what it looks like, the pros over the Captivate are:
1. GPS works
2. LED Flash (thought I wasn't going to need this until the phone became my main camera)
The "cons"
1. Not AMOLED, but still a nice display
Anything else? Looks like you can still use custom ROM's on the Inspire..
How is stock battery life on the Inspire (without all the fancy shmancy things running (live wallpaper/facebook widgets, etc) ) ?

WiFi tether problems? Fixed mine like this.

I am on 3.1 beta 6
Mine did not work until I changed the device profile to Thunderbolt in settings.
Then I changed a few other settings such as
Force WiFi driver reloading (check) *has worked for some*
Routing fix (check) *most important one*
Disable wake-lock (unchecked) -> *this is why you lose connection after your screen turns off*
Hope this helps get a few of you tethering again. I am using jdk new source sense based 1.0 kernel but have tested this on Imo 3.8, 4.1 and 5.0 and worked just fine.
4g was blazing fast to my Droid inc tethered to my Thunderbolt without the 4g power drain.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button

Grnlantern79 said:
Disable wake-lock (unchecked) -> this is why you lose connection after your screen turns off.
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I've never understood that setting and it's default like that. Even Cyanogen copied it.... Why do you have to keep 'using' your phone in order to keep the screen on so that WiFi doesn't shutdown ? Android can multi-task, can it not ?
If there is active usage on WiFi, it should NOT shut off. But it will...

I was told there isn't a way or app to tether w/o getting charged by Verizon anymore.
I'm on stock, but I'm rooted. Is it possible? Best apps? Thank you.
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You were lied to

system6 said:
I was told there isn't a way or app to tether w/o getting charged by Verizon anymore.
I'm on stock, but I'm rooted. Is it possible? Best apps? Thank you.
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http://db.tt/nZTglF9n app I use. Follow my directions to use.
If I helped please use the thank you button and donate a free account to my dropbox http://db.tt/uDc7iw7x

system6 said:
I was told there isn't a way or app to tether w/o getting charged by Verizon anymore.
I'm on stock, but I'm rooted. Is it possible? Best apps?
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I just use default CM7 by ProTekk (Find it under "Unofficial Cyanogen Builds" with Rom Manager). The built in tethering (Both USB & WiFi) works like a charm for me without having to utilize 3rd party apps.

Thanks for the post! Picked up a Thunderbolt recently and spent the last couple days trying to get android-wifi-tether to work. The last piece of the puzzle for me was checking "Routing fix" per your suggestion.

thanks for this thread,I just picked up a thunderbolt also, got tired of my iPhone 4 .. I have been trying to tether for the last day, going to try this out now.

Anyone else having speed issues in AP mode? Ad-hoc works well but in AP it is painfully slow (sub-3g speeds). I've tried every combination of settings in wifi tether and no luck..
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Can't figure out the problem yet, but i can't get 4g tether speeds (or connectivity half the time) from any 605.5 based rom. Yes i checked for tetherguard.apk to make sure that wasn't my issue. Even the newest AOSP roms (which i know aren't based on that) won't let me get a good connection. I have since reverted back to a 605.3 and 605.0 based and are not having problems. I also tried multiple combos of roms/radios too to see if i could narrow it down and haven't found anything significant. Its possible its just my phone being screwy as i haven't had any of the reboot issues to its about time for some problem! Its working for me now, but if anyone finds out anything about it, let me know, i wouldn't mind testing it.

ROM - Bamf forever 1.9
WiFi tether here http://db.tt/nZTglF9n with settings listed above new
imo kernel 5.0 from GB source. Use the settings above for reference to how to get it working. Here is a snap shot of my daughter Droid incredible running off my 4G x 3 test. Along with my thunderbolt getting similar speeds.
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Yea, thats what i used to get with all, but can't seem to with the newest sense or AOSP roms/kernels and newest radios but can fine with older roms/kernels/radios. Same settings. I'm just lost at what else to try. Like i said, quite possible its my bolt hating me.

nbdysreal said:
Yea, thats what i used to get with all, but can't seem to with the newest sense or AOSP roms/kernels and newest radios but can fine with older roms/kernels/radios. Same settings. I'm just lost at what else to try. Like i said, quite possible its my bolt hating me.
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I would just move back I don't like sense 3.5 on this phone. Sense 3.0 work just fine with everything I want working. Sense 3.5 is fun to try but it is not made for this phone. To much stuff needs to be tweaked for it to function with all the extras we have gotten use to. It's kinda like Droid incredible running sense 3.0 it was slow and sense 3.5 is even slower on that phone. I will stick with Bamf forever since its a smooth ROM and everything i need works on this ROM. Battery life is same as stock if not a little better I can get 10 hours of constant use with WiFi or 3g but anything more is pushing it. Bamf makes great roms but i don't see 3.5 as a daily driver for me. Maybe once rezound launches we will get something that works better with our phones well my phone. 3.5 had that worse battery and most laggy of any roms I have tried and did everything i could think of to tweak it. I tried all 3 roms out at this point, Son of a bliss, invigorated, and gingerbliss
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Thanks a lot!

worked for me

Grnlantern79 said:
I would just move back I don't like sense 3.5 on this phone. Sense 3.0 work just fine with everything I want working. Sense 3.5 is fun to try but it is not made for this phone. To much stuff needs to be tweaked for it to function with all the extras we have gotten use to. It's kinda like Droid incredible running sense 3.0 it was slow and sense 3.5 is even slower on that phone. I will stick with Bamf forever since its a smooth ROM and everything i need works on this ROM. Battery life is same as stock if not a little better I can get 10 hours of constant use with WiFi or 3g but anything more is pushing it. Bamf makes great roms but i don't see 3.5 as a daily driver for me. Maybe once rezound launches we will get something that works better with our phones well my phone. 3.5 had that worse battery and most laggy of any roms I have tried and did everything i could think of to tweak it. I tried all 3 roms out at this point, Son of a bliss, invigorated, and gingerbliss
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Yeah, i moved back prior to posting. Weird things i have notices are prior to 605.5 the settings you had worked, as thats what i've been using. I went to a stock 605.5 and to killsense and neither of those worked with those settings. So i started messing around with settings and found that the reload wifi drivers unchecked alleviated my problems. Wifi tethered, laptop was ranging from .4 - .6 down, now is back to the old 17-28 down. So if its not working for someone else, toggle settings till it does work.

thanks, bud! it works great for me.

Worked as stated...thanks!

Grnlantern79 said:
ROM - Bamf forever 1.9
WiFi tether here http://db.tt/nZTglF9n with settings listed above new
imo kernel 5.0 from GB source. Use the settings above for reference to how to get it working. Here is a snap shot of my daughter Droid incredible running off my 4G x 3 test. Along with my thunderbolt getting similar speeds.
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Thanks for all your work on this. Is this app written by you?
Is there any version of this app in the Marketplace?
Do you know the original source of this app?
You may pm if it is a secret. It looks fantastic but I don't like putting something on my phone if I have no idea what its source is. I know too little about code from unknown sources to "trust it". I've never really seen any app or rom discussed in which the developer's ID (or at least internet ID) was a secret.

I answered this for you over at rootzwiki
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NS4G: Who has reverted from an ICS ROM back to GB?

Just curious: who here has tried several different ICS ROM/Kernel combos and gone back to GB?
I've tried just about every ICS ROM out there, with a substantial amount of the Kernels, but it's the little things that are starting to bug me, such as my phone freezing up overnight and making me miss my alarm in the morning.

I will never revert to gb. I've been using ics roms since the sdk builds came out and I think the OS has come a long way since then.
Lately, my phone has been running flawlessly with AOKP Milestone 2 4.0.3 with Steve Garon's kernel. Performance has actually exceeded that of any gb aosp rom I've used. Super-smooth, quick, and efficient, zero lag and my OEM battery lasts more than 30hrs.

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SENT FROM MY SPRINT (not a metro) PURE GOOGLE NEXUS S NOT UNPURE LIKE YOUR ORANGE JUICE
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I too have been on ICS since the SDK dropped, and I really love it. However, I do understand your frustration. I run into bugs and stutters here and there on pretty much every ROM I've tried.
I did revert back to GB (Oxygen 2.3) for a couple days when I was getting annoyed with a few persistent bugs, but swiftly changed back in favor of ICS beauty.
GB seems far more responsive in a lot of places, which i envy. But these ROMs are all still in their early stages and are only going to get better. The official NS4G update hasn't even been released yet.

madeincanon said:
I too have been on ICS since the SDK dropped, and I really love it. However, I do understand your frustration. I run into bugs and stutters here and there on pretty much every ROM I've tried.
I did revert back to GB (Oxygen 2.3) for a couple days when I was getting annoyed with a few persistent bugs, but swiftly changed back in favor of ICS beauty.
GB seems far more responsive in a lot of places, which i envy. But these ROMs are all still in their early stages and are only going to get better. The official NS4G update hasn't even been released yet.
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This. I too revert back to cm7 when I run into a bug or I get fed up with the mini stutters here and there. But once I'm back on cm7, I find myself downloading and flashing new builds of ics. Its beautiful and for the first time it feels like I'm using a new, awesome and complete OS. Gingerbread looks so plain and tacky to me now. Even with themes lol.
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I'm never going back to gingerbread, ICS is just so stunning, it contains all these high quality animations and graphics. I think you just haven't tried the right rom. Try AOSP+ by android user and flash Eugenes ICUP kernel and tell me what you think. it will sure drop you jaw cuz its so fast.

Why would anyone revert back to an older version of a software is beyond me. ICS is young compared to GB so of course bugs exist, bit there aren't any bugs that make the phone or any feature unusable
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DirtyShroomz said:
Why would anyone revert back to an older version of a software is beyond me. ICS is young compared to GB so of course bugs exist, bit there aren't any bugs that make the phone or any feature unusable
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I can completely understand if someone needs rock solid functionality or compatibility with older apps. Luckily, my phone is not critical to my life or job, so I can afford to experiment and run bleeding edge software.
Someone who relies on their phone for work or safety is justified for running a proven, stable os. ICS is improving rapidly, but it is good enough for me and many others as-is.

Me. ICS is just too slow.

Braneless said:
I can completely understand if someone needs rock solid functionality or compatibility with older apps. Luckily, my phone is not critical to my life or job, so I can afford to experiment and run bleeding edge software.
Someone who relies on their phone for work or safety is justified for running a proven, stable os. ICS is improving rapidly, but it is good enough for me and many others as-is.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
I can deal with it in any circumstance except for when I miss my alarm.

jonnythan said:
Me. ICS is just too slow.
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Have you tried AOKP or vhgomez's 2.5.1 with a Eugene icup or Steve Garon kernel? My phone is smooth and quick with either combination. In fact, scrolling, browsing, and switching apps using the Recent Apps feature feels much better than with aosp or NSCollab 2.3.7

I haven't tried those two in particular, no. But unless they're a massive leap forward from AOSP there's no chance at all. ICS seems to occupy more RAM as well.

jonnythan said:
I haven't tried those two in particular, no. But unless they're a massive leap forward from AOSP there's no chance at all. ICS seems to occupy more RAM as well.
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That's a good point. I have yet to find out how these people post such ridiculous battery times with ICS. I don't recall "Android OS" ever eating up so much of my battery on GB.

I went back to GB but came back to ICS, I love ICS but went back because of random reboots and mainly battery life. Now I am on AOSP+ 2.3 with speedy 5 kernal and i found out that after i turned Skype off,that battery life is great, so i think some of the problems are related to software compatibility issues that shouldn't take that much of time to be solved. In general, i think ICS is smoother specially when it comes to the built in browser, plus the native support for my native language ( I liked this sentence ) . Hope Google will solve all the issues with the next update.
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Where can I find Steve Garon's kernel? Is it available for the NS4G? I don't which one it is.

SComp23 said:
That's a good point. I have yet to find out how these people post such ridiculous battery times with ICS. I don't recall "Android OS" ever eating up so much of my battery on GB.
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Android OS battery consumption is just a bug and does not accurately reflect actual power usage, per Google engineer Dianne Hackborn. Ram usage is just fine as well as ics manages memory very well. I typically have only 50mb of free ram, but experience zero lag or slowdowns.
As far as battery life, I NEVER reached 30hrs with a gb rom, but I exceed that with 4+ hrs of screen on time with Steve Garon's kernel:
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MrDrumngun said:
Where can I find Steve Garon's kernel? Is it available for the NS4G? I don't which one it is.
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It's in the NS4G development forum, listed as 'SG buncha numbers etc'.

Braneless said:
I will never revert to gb. I've been using ics roms since the sdk builds came out and I think the OS has come a long way since then.
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Agreed with the above. ICS is Android in its best flavour so far. The UI elements are so much more polished and I just love the little touches. Its also faster than gingerbread and honeycomb ever were. And they weren't exactly slow to begin with.
I've had no stability issues so far after just over a month I'm happy to report.
Running stock rom rooted with stock voodoo kernel.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

I had problems too, I went with CM9 patch 1 or whatever and didn't uses a kernel and this is working great for me. When things get stable I'll use adifferent kernel
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voyager_s said:
Agreed with the above. ICS is Android in its best flavour so far. The UI elements are so much more polished and I just love the little touches. Its also faster than gingerbread and honeycomb ever were. And they weren't exactly slow to begin with.
I've had no stability issues so far after just over a month I'm happy to report.
Running stock rom rooted with stock voodoo kernel.
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I don't have the option to run the stock ROM, because there is not yet one for the NS4G. However, this is what I am most eager to try, so I hope it comes available soon.

stock UCLB3 > any other ROM

With stock ROM I get:
• 2-3 day battery life
• All apps work
• Strongest signal
• 100% working wifi
• fastest overall, zero load time for almost everything
• and finally I don't need to install gapps or anything
With any other ROM I get:
• Possibly 1 day battery life
• Orgasm if I get any signal at all
• Wifi works completely on one in a billion roms, flaky on most
• Bluetooth rarely works
• No fix for any issues on ROMs that don't have major devs working on them
• Some apps don't work, and on a few ROMs some apps even kill the system and make it hot reboot
• Lag like it's a 3-year-old donut phone with the processor speed of a retarded potato with AIDS
• some need gapps, which is annoying to re-install every time you update, which also, you have to do every few days instead of once a year
So my conclusion is that screw custom ROMs. It might just be my device but that's how it plays out. I'll be much more careful to buy a phone that will have real support in the future, like the SGS II, Captivate, and SGS III do/will have.
Oh yeah and about my sig, that is the only ROM that I've gotten close to working 100%. And he's not a gtg, but he's got more support than big devs like that ever did, so if you're a sheep and need to use custom ROMs go with MoM.
/rant

I apologize, but I strongly detest the statement. I do respect every bit of what you have said, but I really do think that it is just a matter of personal use.
I have ran Aeon and other amazing custom ROMs and so far the best I have tried was Zeus 6. There are a few kinks, but hey-- it works!
Consequently, though, it's all a matter of personal preference. Some people prefer the debloated stock and customize it their own (i.e., build.prop tweaks, etc).
What I am getting at here is that there is no need to bash other custom ROMs. Although you did not point your finger on any specific one, but it really means a lot for people to like the developers' work. It's an Android Device... This is the main reason we got this: open source.

Wayzate...your really looking to get flamed...lol
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bigjoe2675 said:
Wayzate...your really looking to get flamed...lol
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As if I didn't know that already. :silly:
Crinkypops said:
I apologize, but I strongly detest the statement. I do respect every bit of what you have said, but I really do think that it is just a matter of personal use.
I have ran Aeon and other amazing custom ROMs and so far the best I have tried was Zeus 6. There are a few kinks, but hey-- it works!
Consequently, though, it's all a matter of personal preference. Some people prefer the debloated stock and customize it their own (i.e., build.prop tweaks, etc).
What I am getting at here is that there is no need to bash other custom ROMs. Although you did not point your finger on any specific one, but it really means a lot for people to like the developers' work. It's an Android Device... This is the main reason we got this: open source.
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I didn't really say anything bad about any specific ROM. Only specific ROM I mentioned is MoM and it was only to say something good.

wayzata said:
As if I didn't know that already. :silly:
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Seriously...if you need attention go else where.

Well I can put g appz in the /data/app partition
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wayzata said:
With stock ROM I get:
• 2-3 day battery life
• All apps work
• Strongest signal
• 100% working wifi
• fastest overall, zero load time for almost everything
• and finally I don't need to install gapps or anything
With any other ROM I get:
• Possibly 1 day battery life
• Orgasm if I get any signal at all
• Wifi works completely on one in a billion roms, flaky on most
• Bluetooth rarely works
• No fix for any issues on ROMs that don't have major devs working on them
• Some apps don't work, and on a few ROMs some apps even kill the system and make it hot reboot
• Lag like it's a 3-year-old donut phone with the processor speed of a retarded potato with AIDS
• some need gapps, which is annoying to re-install every time you update, which also, you have to do every few days instead of once a year
So my conclusion is that screw custom ROMs. It might just be my device but that's how it plays out. I'll be much more careful to buy a phone that will have real support in the future, like the SGS II, Captivate, and SGS III do/will have.
Oh yeah and about my sig, that is the only ROM that I've gotten close to working 100%. And he's not a gtg, but he's got more support than big devs like that ever did, so if you're a sheep and need to use custom ROMs go with MoM.
/rant
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I get the opposite results of u bro... my lag on stock is sooo bad that I was about to throw my phone on the ground as hard as I could. Ics with some tweaks was awesome, jellybean should be really good if it ever comes. Now on my tablet stock on that is pretty good, with aosp it would fly though.

Trolling like this is unproductive and is intended only to offend those who contribute to this device. My vote is that someone close this thread, and that wayzata start keeping his opinions of devs to himself.

Make sure you zip it up, this is going to be one of those threads, chief haha
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Plus, I agree with ryanscool, any time I have to use stock B3, everything is laggy. Personally, I think that Sammy just did such a crappy job on official GB and used halfass or dirty fixes to make it work. So when ppl try to mod, the crappiness comes out...
There are tons of work being done on the Infuse and I was here when ppl said development was dead; you gotta appreciate what's here man.
My advice Way, stay with stock and stop these random threads broskie
-Mac
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jscott30 said:
Trolling like this is unproductive and is intended only to offend those who contribute to this device. My vote is that someone close this thread, and that wayzata start keeping his opinions of devs to himself.
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Well Jscott, I don't think we are going to change anyone's stance on the matter, I mean, after all we are just "unpopular devs." What do we know. lol

He must be needing a galaxy note
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Cute how it's all butthurt devs taking offense to something I didn't even imply, let alone say directly.

wayzata said:
Cute how it's all butthurt devs taking offense to something I didn't even imply, let alone say directly.
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I honestly don't see any xda recognized developers replying to your posts. They most likely have better things to do. I'm no dev, and haven't claimed to be. I'm not mad or even remotely upset, but I do think that you're being a troll. It irritates me enough that you're one of the few people that I'll ever choose to ignore on this site - and I must say, for me, that takes a lot, so congratulations on that.
By the way, here's what you've said directly, and it implies plenty to justify people being irritated with your trolling.:
wayzata said:
Anyone still using this? I'm using it as a last option because no custom ROMs seem to be working as fully as this. ICS has a ton of bugs, and modified GB ROMs are made by unpopular devs with little bug support.
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jscott30 said:
I honestly don't see any xda recognized developers replying to your posts. They most likely have better things to do. I'm no dev, and haven't claimed to be. I'm not mad or even remotely upset, but I do think that you're being a troll. It irritates me enough that you're one of the few people that I'll ever choose to ignore on this site - and I must say, for me, that takes a lot, so congratulations on that.
By the way, here's what you've said directly, and it implies plenty to justify people being irritated with your trolling.:
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Nuff said
-Mac

Custom Roms are not for everyone so if you prefer a stock rom then go for it.
Thread closed
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Advice after personal experience

I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
And that is your personal expierence about cm10 8/8...I got a GPS lock in less then a minute...and I have 0 lag
Imho opinion this thread is pointless...it clearly states in ops what doesnt work-just go back to froyo...its obvious that's what you want
Btw...wasn't trying to be rude...just stating my opinion
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mg2195 said:
Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
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I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !

My one and a half cent:
IMHO For most people rooting and flashing is probably something they should not do. All they want is a functional phone that does phone things: text, make calls, check Facebook, etc. That is exactly what they get when their phone comes out of the box. That's great and awesome: don't worry, be happy.
There are others "hackers" or not, who like to tinker, figure out how things work, "try" and get them to work more efficiently, or "better". This includes those who are not as technical as the devs but are willing to help, test and report.
These people who are ready and willing to live with the fact that their expensive functional phone may end up as an expensive piece of plastic and metal...well root and flash away.
But to complain that your phone is worse after using someones hardwork and effort is pointless. Report problems yes...complain...not cool.
These boards are filled with complaints and cries for help from people who probably should have stuck with the phone they got from the store and just been happy. Rooting is not for everyone.
Peace
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Forget, Froy, GB, ICS, JB...
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qkster said:
Blasphemer! Heinous! Stone him!!
You don't like ways to break your phone?
You don't like to learn how to add a new APN?
You don't want to downgrade your 720p video to 480p?
- joking.
In several aspects, I agree with you re: FROYO. The Froyo phone does what it is suppose to do. Great cam/vid; GPS, mms and call. If you're not dying the the latest, it runs just fine. Froyo doesn't support Gtalk Video
I'm not sure about your experience with GB though. I've not seen the lags, freezes and reboots on the official firmware.
The main thing I recall from official GB is make sure you install it without a microSD in place and after it is installed, copy off all your stuff from the internal SDcard and do a factory reset under /setting/privacy.
Here a froyo treat for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25526638&postcount=1
In December 2011, I wrote this thread. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. If you reflect on it, you may like the practical points I was making.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397287
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qkster that thread was Awesome! I had never read that before...hilarious
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Okay so maybe ICS and JB are not for you.. but what about GB ROMs like Emancipation and Aeon? Have you given them a try?
Stock is okay but it has too much room for improvement and that's where our brilliant devs come in. Believe in them and in their work. They are not here to turn phones into robots that will lead us to our doom
Sent from my sweet and buttery Infuse

bigjoe2675 said:
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Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:

PoXFreak said:
Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:
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Wat?!?
Bigjoe slowly walking away....now running....gone....

bilihor said:
I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !
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Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
All these people want, in essence, is a phone with the newest available software... that works. Thats why there is always someone working on some problem or "bug", trying and (99.9% of the time) succeeding. Sometimes we fail, but there is always someone else willing to pick up where we left off.
One reason I enjoy playing with firmware...; the challenge. I've always been one to take it apart and somehow make it better, regardless of what it is. A car, a radio, a computer... whatever.
On a side note, maybe reflashing your firmware will fix the issues your having with your Infuse now?

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.... thought I read somewhere that pornographic images are not allowed on xda... :silly:

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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IDK, maybe you got the initial, buggy, official GB update? I jumped ship and flashed Zeus long before that. And it ran smoother and I got better battery life with it than stock Froyo.
And it's pretty clearly written in each thread what is being seen by folks using the ROMs. For the CM10 build, It's pretty well known that GPS had issues until 8/8. It's posted clearly that several folks had issues with trebuchet lagging, so they loaded an alternate launcher and got better results. It's posted that wifi hotspot doesn't work with WPA or WPA2 with the bcrmhd driver (think that's the specific driver) and disabling security will allow it to work.
I know there are 200+ pages on some of these ROM threads, and many of the posts are 'me too' 'OMG this is so cool' or 'WTF? Read the OP'. But there are useful nuggets of information in there, especially the OP, and you really need to read them all to know what you might see with that ROM, or at least to know 'oh, I'm not the only one with that problem, and here's how they fixed it.'
In short, don't be ready to jump to a ROM that's only been out a short time until you know that either the bugs are fixed or you can live with the bugs that have been reported. Believe it or not, there IS a reason it takes time for official updates to roll out too, and it's not just to piss everyone off.

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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.... my current rig
may consider an upgrade if the holiday deals are just right....
...only 11 more payments to bigjoe and she'll be all mine.

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)

bilihor said:
fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)
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Yes...turbo pascal...I remember turbo pascal...or actually forgot turbo pascal. I couldn't code in that anymore to save my life
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
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PoXFreak said:
Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
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Bunch of old farts in here...soon someone is gonna bust out old punchcards or even an abacus
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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I saw this in my great grandfather's office.
I'm not sure what it is.
I first PC was an Intel i7 quadcore 8gb RAM and 2tb drive.

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