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has anyone tried to id the hardware driver currently being used in the topaz android release? It would be awesome to get that working and have some turn by turn direction action. I am wondering if it's just pointed at the wrong com port or something else not too difficult to fix? Any information would be helpful. I am technical and I love mobile devices, I want to learn more about android so I can help make the existing ports more usable.

superT0M said:
has anyone tried to id the hardware driver currently being used in the topaz android release? It would be awesome to get that working and have some turn by turn direction action. I am wondering if it's just pointed at the wrong com port or something else not too difficult to fix? Any information would be helpful. I am technical and I love mobile devices, I want to learn more about android so I can help make the existing ports more usable.
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I second this ... PLEASE GPS!!!!

bad sentinel79, bad, go back to the topaz forums, you are not allowed to go anywhere else. lol
GPS would be absolutely great, but then so would sound, reliable wake up, better power management, etc.
The kernel developers are doing everything they can to work on each part feature by feature. But if they hit a roadblock they do not just sit around and wait, they move on and come back later (as is the case with the sound)
GPS will be done when they can get to it, but if anyone wants to jump in and lend a hand, there can never be too much help and ideas.

shadowline said:
bad sentinel79, bad, go back to the topaz forums, you are not allowed to go anywhere else. lol
GPS would be absolutely great, but then so would sound, reliable wake up, better power management, etc.
The kernel developers are doing everything they can to work on each part feature by feature. But if they hit a roadblock they do not just sit around and wait, they move on and come back later (as is the case with the sound)
GPS will be done when they can get to it, but if anyone wants to jump in and lend a hand, there can never be too much help and ideas.
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Virtual Laser KeyBoard Support

I was wondering if anyone has experience in Virtual Laser key boards such as i-Techs VKB?
http://www.amazon.com/iTech-Bluetooth-Virtual-Keyboard/dp/B00142C4O8
If so, are they compatible with our phones?
I am slowly moving towards using my phone as a full mobile PC. I would like to be as productive as possible and having a full size key board would be monumental... especially when editing documents. Sure, a laptop would be the best bet but this is the future.
As a side note, I would also like to note that this is why the iPad is a step back. Technology should be getting smaller, not bigger. You can see this with the invention of micro-projectors (google "Sixth Sense Project") or the paper-thin, clear, flexible LCD displays that are emerging. I don't want to load around some cumbersome device like the iPad or even a netbook. Smart phones are the future!
/rant
Anyway, if the laser keyboard is not compatible can someone point me in the right direction for any type of key board... preferably one that rolls up or something.
Thanks!

Found this that should work for you:
https://barbourelectronicstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=6

I see no reason why it would not work. Does our phone support a normal bluetooth keyboard?

Those keyboard are not great. They have a hard time keeping track of everything.
So even if you get it working, it will only kinda sorta work.

...Come to think of it, I'm going to try to sync a bluetooth keyboard we have in the shop right now.
Edit: Dell has neglected to give me the passkey to pair the keyboard. No dice.

Dell won't give you the pass key? Shouldn't it be a set standard for that model? I figured it would be on the website of the manufacturer under the support section.

outcome69 said:
Dell won't give you the pass key? Shouldn't it be a set standard for that model? I figured it would be on the website of the manufacturer under the support section.
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I'm trying to use a Model Number: Y-RAQ-DEL2 keyboard.
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/acc/P109356/en/index.htm
It comes with a reciever which pair it automatically to PC's. It can also be paired with laptops that have built in modules because the computers generates the Passkey and you eneter it on the Keyboard.
Our phones, however, don't generate one but instead ask for the Keyboard Passkey itself.
I chatted with Dell to get it, they told me to call wireless tech support. I called wireless tech support and they said the passkey has to be "0000". This does not work, however. The guy was an idiot. He was obviously reading off of a screen. There must be a shared code between the Dell BT reciever and the Keyboard that I can find use to pair the device.
Ugh.

It won't work. Even if you get it to pair, no current ROM or kernel known to exist as of this moment supports HID, and the commercial BT keyboard driver in Market (which supports SPP) doesn't work on the Hero.
As far as the PIN goes (when/if it ever becomes possible to use a BT keyboard on our phones), try this:
* Make the keyboard discoverable
* Tell the phone to scan
* When the phone finds the keyboard, try setting the PIN on the keyboard by pressing 4 digit keys then enter/return. That seems to be the way most of them work.
Unlike mice and gamepads, most (newer) keyboards WON'T allow you to pair as 0000 due to the risk of password interception.

if you are looking to go completely remote, i would advice waiting for the evo. snapdragon+gi.s.+a sd card and hdmi connectivity and whats sure to be our native sense experience in a fully functioning 2.1 playing ground that will have more than enuff support or what should be simple. things such as bt (...AND THE KICKSTAND) i think it will be your most likely option to suceed. good luck, i like my laptop.

Update: it turns out, there IS a driver to use bluetooth HID keyboards with Android -- BlueInput (teksoftco.com). Unsurprisingly, it doesn't work (yet) on the Hero, either
This has gotten me wondering... Has anyone figured out WHY nothing Bluetooth-related besides audio seems to work on the Hero (compared to other Android phones that don't seem to be similarly-afflicted)?
Is it a case of distros like DamageControl having kernels with BlueZ 3.x compiled in when apps like BlueInput(HID) and KeyPro(SPP) need 4.x, or vice-versa?
Has anyone with the background knowledge necessary to build a 2.6.29 Hero kernel from scratch and troubleshoot bluetooth problems even looked at the way the kernel is getting built for distros like DamageControl? It seems like right now, nobody even knows whether this is something as trivial as a bad option at build time, or a problem that's huge and hopeless.
Sigh. It's times like this that I really hate Sprint for not letting us have R-UIM cards. I seriously think SIM cards are a major part of the reason why we (CDMA users) seem to have so many kernel-level problems that GSM Android users don't. They can just swap SIMs, and experiment all weekend if they like without metaphorically leaving their phones "off the hook" in the meantime.

I am betting those features where compiled out of our kernel. It should be easy to put them back in but then the question is will it work with the hardware... and we all know from the camera that that isn't a given.

fatkitty420 said:
...Come to think of it, I'm going to try to sync a bluetooth keyboard we have in the shop right now.
Edit: Dell has neglected to give me the passkey to pair the keyboard. No dice.
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passkey is 0000 noob

scirio said:
passkey is 0000 noob
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6103433&postcount=7
I chatted with Dell to get it, they told me to call wireless tech support. I called wireless tech support and they said the passkey has to be "0000". This does not work, however. The guy was an idiot. He was obviously reading off of a screen. There must be a shared code between the Dell BT reciever and the Keyboard that I can find use to pair the device.
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Hmmm. Has anyone ever tried taking a distro like DamageControl and using it with a scratch-built kernel known to have been compiled with everything BlueZ-related included and enabled? From the research I've done, it looks like we kind of have a catch-22 situation:
* All of the popular 2.1 distros seem to be using the same signed kernel. If that kernel's bluetooth support is dysfunctional, everything that relies on it for bluetooth will be dysfunctional as well.
* In theory, AOSP should be easy to experiment with bluetooth on... but NONE of the AOSP builds seem to really support bluetooth at all. At least, more than maybe being able to limp along with handsfree+headset mono. It seems to be kind of a vicious cycle -- most of the support apps needed to implement bluetooth and make it work aren't opensource, so the leaders (in a very oldschool Debian-like way) want nothing to do with them, even if it means doing without it entirely in the meantime. But since there are no ripped apps to bootstrap bluetooth support with until replacements can be written, nobody has any real incentive to work on tweaking the kernel to make them work... and since there's no real bluetooth support overall, anyone who really CARES about bluetooth (and would otherwise be the most motivated to work on improving it) shows up, looks around, and runs for the door. Oh, and the fact that even AOSP still has to deal with mystery binary blobs, because most of the HeroC's actual hardware is itself proprietary to Qualcomm and unavailable to peons like us (who merely own a phone that uses their chips).
I really wish I knew enough about both Bluetooth and the Linux kernel in general to try troubleshooting it myself, but realistically I'm still a long way from achieving that goal. I've learned a lot over the past month, but so far the only visible light in the tunnel is coming from the phone's backlight ;-)

Htc has not released source for the .29 kernel, so no one can really modify it. Maybe the .27 in the overclocked roms if you could convince a dev to help out.
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Htc has not released source for the .29 kernel, so no one can really modify it
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Oh god, I completely forgot about that. We don't actually have the actual 2.6.29 source yet. I got so caught up in the 2.1 celebrations a month or so ago that I totally forgot about that important little detail

here is a 1.5 kernel that says it has usb hosting. But requires doing a little extra for the drivers.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/51730-post2.html

Looking for help on using a tablet as a phone

So here is the deal. I have seen the videos of people using the different tablets as phones. Here is what I want to know. Just how useful is this. What I would like to do is this. I would like to buy a wifi hotspot device like the one from sprint.
And then get a tablet that only has wifi support. I would like to use Google voice now that it supports people being able to call the desktop. So my question is can I get a tablet wifi only and setup it to connect to the hotspot and maybe even a bluetooth headset so I don't look to nerdy.
Anyways can you guys point me in the right direction to get this done?

Let me know if I didnt explain it well enough.

Help with unlocked, unbranded tablet (no root)

I have an unbranded tablet running Android 2.3.4 that is unlocked but not rooted (I can't get superuser to work or busy box to install) that I trying to do some hardware/OS related work with and need help. In specific, I am trying to get a USB keypad to work (recognizes keypad but keys do random things and doesn't really work). I believe this requires some ICS libraries (official support added in ICS). I am also having difficulty getting the unit to find a GPS lock using a 3g network (no on board GPS support, but it should be able to find a rough lock using 3g and/or wifi and I don't know why it isn't). In general the hardware is decent but the software is buggy crap, making what could be a decent device crap. I also need some of the default functions for the onboard buttons changed (I think this is build.prop?) We have a kinda random and specific use for these tablets and I have hunted all over for someone to help me and have found a lot of JAVA programmers and not true blue linux/android hardware devs. I understand this is such a specific piece of hardware and unfortunately the work we do won't be able to be shared by a lot of people. If anyone can help me though, I will gladly donate to their cause and/or buy them a few cups of coffee. I would also perhaps be willing to let you keep one of the tablets to play with (they're actually pretty cool). If this is something you can help me with PM me and we can go from there. I am in Dallas, so someone near by wouldn't hurt! Thanks!
PS Please let me know if I have broken any XDA rules here. I have 3 cell phones and a rooted nook color, so needless to say I'd rather not get banned...

USB Tethering

It doesn't natively work on the Infinity, but I'm stubborn. If anyone can give me some direction as to how best to tackle this, it would be helpful. Maybe someone else had already started on something similar, or if not, at least a starting point.
Mind you, I'm trying to tether FROM my Sprint phone TO my tablet.

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It doesn't natively work on the Infinity, but I'm stubborn. If anyone can give me some direction as to how best to tackle this, it would be helpful. Maybe someone else had already started on something similar, or if not, at least a starting point.
Mind you, I'm trying to tether FROM my Sprint phone TO my tablet.
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Have you tried connecting your Sprint phone via bluetooth? I noticed that when I paired mine, it showed up as a possible tether point but I don't have data on my plan so couldn't test it.
I also think this thread needs to be moved to the Q&A forum.

I doubt you'll get it working through USB. I dont think the Infinity has drivers for that.
There's tons of solutions to get it going over wifi, and if you want something a little more power efficient try a combination of PDANet for Tablets on the Infinity and FoxFi on your phone to tether over bluetooth.

Sigh... the entire point to this thread being in the Development forum is to develop the drivers needed to make it work.

BlaqueJacque said:
Sigh... the entire point to this thread being in the Development forum is to develop the drivers needed to make it work.
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Unfortunately, unless you have already developed such app, this post does not belong in the development forums, which are for apps/ROMs that have already been developed, not for posts about apps/ROMs that you would like to have developed.
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Already posted in Q&A. Pretty much the sames answers you received there. Dude, just wifi/BT tether... No one is gonna hack the wireless network on your phone to get free 4G internet.

Obviously I need to go elsewhere, then. I thought this would be good place to go for aid with app development, and instead all I get is 'you're dumb, do it this way' and 'Development is for apps already developed, not for those in development' as seems to be the case. Thanks anyway, I suppose.

Not trying to give you a hard time and certainly didn't mean to insinuate you're dumb. You're just asking for something that doesn't really NEED to be done and really can't be done (at the moment). There are already lots of good solutions for what you're ultimately looking to do, tether your phone to your tablet to access the net. Being stubborn about doing it via USB just doesn't make sense (unless you're not really being honest about wanting simple internet access and you need USB tether for other reasons). Who would want wires when you can do it wirelessly? Wires suck... lol.
Hopefully you'll stick around and enjoy the community. Lots of smart nice people here ready to lend a hand.

Grave digging
I've found a need for this or at least a work around. I work offshore and internet is restricted to 1 device per person. My tablet cannot tether back to my PC but my mobile can. I can usb tether my phone to my PC while on wifi. However you cannot bluetooth tether while on wifi so my tablet becomes useless. Please if you're thinking I should just bluetooth or wifi tether using my data I will ask you to log off life and KYS because as I said earlier I work offshore there is no data. Is there a way to bluetooth tether while on wifi??

Jotokun said:
I doubt you'll get it working through USB. I dont think the Infinity has drivers for that.
There's tons of solutions to get it going over wifi, and if you want something a little more power efficient try a combination of PDANet for Tablets on the Infinity and FoxFi on your phone to tether over bluetooth.
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It does have the drivers for it, but it requires a change in the framework to allow it to use the USB device when you plug it in. I have this enabled in cm.
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