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No more bootloaders

WERE FREEEE! =) htc has quit its locked bootloader ways. We win

Proof?
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The CEO of HTC announced it.

Awesome! They probably come to realize how much of a bad idea it would be and what it would do to its sales and market share.
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http://htcsource.com/

It's true, I just read the press release. Nice to know HTC cares about the dev community.
I'll be a customer for life now.

To freakin cool!

Tx Redneck said:
To freakin cool!
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HTC standing their ground. Love it.

Now the only thing holding them back is making devices for ATT...
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How does "making" devices for AT&T hold back HTC?

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Now the only thing holding them back is making devices for ATT...
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They make devices for other providers...switch. problem solved

Androidude said:
How does "making" devices for AT&T hold back HTC?
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Because AT&T Doesnt really like for people to make their device their "own" they want you to use the phone as is..

Now we know the htc holiday will come open and easy for roms!

moonmanxo said:
Because AT&T Doesnt really like for people to make their device their "own" they want you to use the phone as is..
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Not sure why people blame the carriers for this. Sure they would like you to pay for tethering but they obviously don't have a set policy. Devices range from Samsung which can be flashed without even rooting in some cases to Motorola with locked, signed, encrypted, blah blah. If the carriers were the ones making the decision on bootloaders then there would seem to be more consistency across manufacturers. Sprint even said publicly that they have no say in the matter and were deferring to HTC on the fate of the EVO 3d.

newter55 said:
Not sure why people blame the carriers for this. Sure they would like you to pay for tethering but they obviously don't have a set policy. Devices range from Samsung which can be flashed without even rooting in some cases to Motorola with locked, signed, encrypted, blah blah. If the carriers were the ones making the decision on bootloaders then there would seem to be more consistency across manufacturers. Sprint even said publicly that they have no say in the matter and were deferring to HTC on the fate of the EVO 3d.
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That may be true publicly but privately, I believe carriers heavily "encourage" manufacturers to lock the bl (perhaps even with incentives.)
Carriers defer to the manufacturers questions like this to avoid looking like the bad guy. Kinda like the hot-potato when it comes to OS upgrades.
Sprint: "We're waiting for HTC to get Froyo ready."
HTC: "We're waiting for Sprint to QA their custom apps and functionality."

HTC, you've made me and millions of other HTC users customers for life.
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I don't know about you guys...but I'm getting pretty sick of ATT and they are about to jack up their prices again...I'm just a pessimist, don't worry bout me
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Agreed att is nothing but money hungry eating sharks. I hate them personally but not their phones.
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codyperez86 said:
Agreed att is nothing but money hungry eating sharks. I hate them personally but not their phones.
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All the cell providers in America meet this definition...companies exist for the soul purpose of maoijf money and it just happens that at&t seems to not lose business no matter what they do so they don't have to appease customers. Simple as that.
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trell959 said:
HTC, you've made me and millions of other HTC users customers for life.
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+100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
(That's a lot, ain't it?)
That's ****ing *****in' news.
HTC, prepare to dominate.
w00t
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Any chance Verizon going get a Pure Google phone?

Just wondering if anybody knows if Verizon gonig get a nexus phone? if so that will be next phone..sick of waiting for updates man

mbrown3460 said:
Just wondering if anybody knows if Verizon gonig get a nexus phone? if so that will be next phone..sick of waiting for updates man
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Don't think anyone knows but i hope they get it.

Don't know either but my fingers are crossed. My guess is that aosp is a little too "open" for Verizon's likes.
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lrs421 said:
Don't know either but my fingers are crossed. My guess is that aosp is a little too "open" for Verizon's likes.
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what do you mean? sorry if its a dumb question.

Yeah its hard to say. I Verizon doesn't really like openness... But who knows. We can always hope right?
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mbrown3460 said:
what do you mean? sorry if its a dumb question.
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Verizon likes to junk up their phones with all kinds of bloatware.

verizon LTE + nexus would be a smash hit...

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Verizon likes to junk up their phones with all kinds of bloatware.
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Agreed. Verizon won't pass up a chance for extra revenue that Blockbuster & similar crapware can generate.
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sublimaze said:
Agreed. Verizon won't pass up a chance for extra revenue that Blockbuster & similar crapware can generate.
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they bent over backwards for apple...

Currently I don't care for an pure google phone becuase i'd probably root it and installed CM7. But it would be nice to get one.
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PhillyCheez said:
they bent over backwards for apple...
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They bent over backwards for Apple because they have been kicking themselves since they passed on the iPhone the first time. They saw the chance to steal a big amount of AT&T iPhone users and jumped. Now if they actually stole a lot of AT&T iPhone users is a different matter. I don't think they stole that many so far. I think when the next iPhone comes out, they will see a big influx.

ddgarcia05 said:
Currently I don't care for an pure google phone becuase i'd probably root it and installed CM7. But it would be nice to get one.
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What do you mean? Google phones are MADE for rooting and flashing custom ROMs.... and in fact the Nexus 1 and Nexus S both have CM7.

ddgarcia05 said:
Currently I don't care for an pure google phone becuase i'd probably root it and installed CM7. But it would be nice to get one.
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LOL. Sorry couldn't help it.
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Hopefully the rumors of the nexus prime are true and it comes to Verizon. LTE equipped.

PhillyCheez said:
verizon LTE + nexus would be a smash hit...
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*drools* holy crap that would be freakin' amazing!!!!

orkillakilla said:
They bent over backwards for Apple because they have been kicking themselves since they passed on the iPhone the first time. They saw the chance to steal a big amount of AT&T iPhone users and jumped. Now if they actually stole a lot of AT&T iPhone users is a different matter. I don't think they stole that many so far. I think when the next iPhone comes out, they will see a big influx.
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I said what I said because Verizon changed their closed ways for a iphone... Not sure why they wouldn't do it for an Android phone. The nexus phones are sellers as well and if they really want to take away users from all carriers (not just at&t) they need to have one in their line up.
They will be able to take advantage of having the fastest network (while they still can) with a 4G nexus phone.
Talk about killing it! They would rape the competition having an iPhone and a 4G nexus phone.
The time is now if they are smart.

No one remembers the droid 1 with STOCK 2.0? The Xoom with STOCK 3.0 even?

The Droid one is not pure Google
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joshnichols189 said:
No one remembers the droid 1 with STOCK 2.0? The Xoom with STOCK 3.0 even?
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xoom was only stock because they didnt have time to mess it up, not because moto was trying to be ambivalent. They wanted to rush it out before the ipad2.

dadsterflip said:
LOL. Sorry couldn't help it.
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Why. I had a nexus one running cm7 and now I have a Tbolt running cm7. Yes there's a lot of development support for the device but im happy with the tbolt.
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Can everyone please sign this petition

. hey guys please sign that petition. Htc's ceo lied and said no more locked bootloaders back in may well the vivid has a locked bootloader. Lets please support our android brothers . http://www.groubal.com/htc-vivid-has-locked-bootloader-contrary-to-statements-by-the-company/#sign

I signed it.
That was one of the main reasons why I went with Galaxy Skyrocket vs Vivid.
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Done......

Thanks to everyone who's signing it, you guys are awesome.
HTC has it's positives, and so does Samsung, but this is a total NEGATIVE on HTC's part...
My dream phone:
Build Quality from HTC
Internal Hardware from Samsung
Connectivity (Data, Signal, WiFi) from Motorola
AOSP from Google
^- Amazing phone...... <3

Longcat14 said:
Thanks to everyone who's signing it, you guys are awesome.
HTC has it's positives, and so does Samsung, but this is a total NEGATIVE on HTC's part...
My dream phone:
Build Quality from HTC
Internal Hardware from Samsung
Connectivity (Data, Signal, WiFi) from Motorola
AOSP from Google
^- Amazing phone...... <3
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I gota say i do not disagree with this^^^^^^^^

silver03wrx said:
I gota say i do not disagree with this^^^^^^^^
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That's because it's PERFECT!

True ,and if ever this new google powerd motosamtc phone hits the market id buy it

silver03wrx said:
new google powerd motosamtc phone
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Say what? Sounds like the age ol myth about the perfect woman!

DOne
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Done
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I believe Moto also said no more locked bootloaders. And they've kept their word. Apparently operators can still lock the bootloaders if they choose, though - maybe that's what happened with HTC?
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vbhines said:
I believe Moto also said no more locked bootloaders. And they've kept their word. Apparently operators can still lock the bootloaders if they choose, though - maybe that's what happened with HTC?
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That's what it says.. HTC raider is the same phone but another carrier... And its unlockable.
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vbhines said:
I believe Moto also said no more locked bootloaders. And they've kept their word. Apparently operators can still lock the bootloaders if they choose, though - maybe that's what happened with HTC?
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atrix2=locked bootloader

Done
And I too would in a heartbeat buy the perfect phone, lol
Off topic, can we have a petition like this to have the carriers release truly unlimited data?

Longcat14 said:
Thanks to everyone who's signing it, you guys are awesome.
HTC has it's positives, and so does Samsung, but this is a total NEGATIVE on HTC's part...
My dream phone:
Build Quality from HTC
Internal Hardware from Samsung
Connectivity (Data, Signal, WiFi) from Motorola
AOSP from Google
^- Amazing phone...... <3
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^^^^^^^^^^
Heck ya
Wish it was possible.

Wont HTC unlock the bootloader with their online service? I'm sure it'll take forever for them to post it up but they should eventually. Maybe I'm confused. Either way I hate locked bootloaders.
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Done. 10 char

Wife (who just got a Vivid) and I (who just got a Skyrocket) signed it.

Signing now!
Swyped from mah 3vo!

cdshepherd said:
Wont HTC unlock the bootloader with their online service? I'm sure it'll take forever for them to post it up but they should eventually. Maybe I'm confused. Either way I hate locked bootloaders.
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Yeah but it's terrible.
Swyped from mah 3vo!

Selling my mytouch

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260966915456?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
I'm selling my mytouch 4g slide if anyone wants it just bid. I'm happy with my newest phone.

In case anyone here wants to bid - what version of hboot and software version is it on?

You should try selling it to an active member of the CyanogenMod team.
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I personaly would never purchase an electronic used that I can't test hands on before purchase.
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I take extremely good care of my phones so I understand the logic but I'm slightly offended.
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Blue6IX said:
In case anyone here wants to bid - what version of hboot and software version is it on?
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Ill check later but its the original revolution version. The very first root. Also your bulletproof os.
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bmw2105 said:
I personaly would never purchase an electronic used that I can't test hands on before purchase.
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I bought my second slide sight unseen, it's in great shape and I am at least the third owner.
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Ill check later but its the original revolution version. The very first root. Also your bulletproof os.
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If you need to return to stock we have full ability to do so all the way back to S-ON. I would wait on that to see what the new owner would want to do, since S-OFF is currently not possible if S-ON from the most recent software update.
It being S-OFF capable is an asset to anyone who wants to mod it that you could lose by updating the software and going S-ON, but you have options depending on what the buyer wants.

bmw2105 said:
I personaly would never purchase an electronic used that I can't test hands on before purchase.
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Neither would I, no need to be offended, some of us are a little paranoid. Plus what if I buy something this expensive and doesn't work as expected?
Also I actually trust people on XDA more than anywhere else.

Fyi I think posting eBay links is against rules.
On the other hand I have different fingers.. but seriously I think it wouldn't hurt to ask Blahbl4h if he's interested in purchasing it as he has shown much interest in our device of late.
Just my spare change.

Is a sensation for 180 a good deal ?

bmw2105 said:
Is a sensation for 180 a good deal ?
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It is in my opinion.

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Fyi I think posting eBay links is against rules.
On the other hand I have different fingers.. but seriously I think it wouldn't hurt to ask Blahbl4h if he's interested in purchasing it as he has shown much interest in our device of late.
Just my spare change.
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Really? I hope I don't get banned.
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Madblaster6 said:
Really? I hope I don't get banned.
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oops. thanked on accident. But you can always pull the ebay link down if it's in violation.
Have you gone to the general forums of other devicecs (and the marketplace in xda?)

Madblaster6 said:
Really? I hope I don't get banned.
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You probably won't, it may get taken down/ or locked if someone flags it tho.
Just my spare change.

Idk think it will get flagged only a ass would flag its.
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daniel60104 said:
oops. thanked on accident. But you can always pull the ebay link down if it's in violation.
Have you gone to the general forums of other devicecs (and the marketplace in xda?)
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I'm a really busy guy. I work 60 hours a week. I haven't been in general chat in ages.
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bmw2105 said:
Idk think it will get flagged only a ass would flag its.
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I agree
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HTC going too far help this dev.

http://www.pocketables.com/2013/01/...e-for-hosting-roms-ruus-trademark-issues.html
Basically this guy is being told to remove his custom ROMs and tell the lawyer where others can be found. If HTC is going on a witch hunt we need to help out devs over there. Those of you with twitters there are links at the end please let's put some pressure on these guys for answers.
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Note to self: don't buy HTC anytime soon.
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This news just put nail on the coffin.
Along with Apple products, HTC has just put them on my DO NOT BUY LIST.

Have you guys ever read about what HTC users have to go through to flash custom roms? Geez... HTC really does hate their customers!
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stoopendis said:
Have you guys ever read about what HTC users have to go through to flash custom roms? Geez... HTC really does hate their customers!
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Yeah I have read a lot about them. Huge pita
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stoopendis said:
Have you guys ever read about what HTC users have to go through to flash custom roms? Geez... HTC really does hate their customers!
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i dont get it, they get it for free from google then they try to lock it down with their own crap, gotta love sammy for the sr, the easiest phone to do what ever the f**k you want

I had to root and flash a HTC evo once and it took me a few hours to do because they go out of their way to make it complicated. Lovin' sammy...
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I had a Captivate Glide before the Skyrocket, both phones were easy to flash. Count me as another who will boycott HTC.

Rooting my old Inspire was insane. Gold card and all. The skyrocket was a walk in the park in comparison.
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Guys the point of this was to get people to put some pressure on HTC by contacting them for answers both over the twitter links at the bottom or by email if this is going how it sounds its not just on HTC users but everybody to let them know we won't stand for it.
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mtdew said:
Guys the point of this was to get people to put some pressure on HTC by contacting them for answers both over the twitter links at the bottom or by email if this is going how it sounds its not just on HTC users but everybody to let them know we won't stand for it.
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Still dont see the point of this. If HTC has built and developed the Sense UI, which they own. How are they not in their own to protect their own product? I am not saying I agree with HTC. But they will just blow off any remarks or such left for them in their twitter feed.

occupational_hazard said:
Still dont see the point of this. If HTC has built and developed the Sense UI, which they own. How are they not in their own to protect their own product? I am not saying I agree with HTC. But they will just blow off any remarks or such left for them in their twitter feed.
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If there is a larger volume of people on them about this it may at least get then to give us a response as to why and possibly cause them to back off. They are playing a strange hand that I think its in everyone's best interest all over who care about development to watch this and fight it as it won't only affect HTC it could go further.
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mtdew said:
If there is a larger volume of people on them about this it may at least get then to give us a response as to why and possibly cause them to back off. They are playing a strange hand that I think its in everyone's best interest all over who care about development to watch this and fight it as it won't only affect HTC it could go further.
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I agree, most people play follow the leader and if they see how easily a dev and community can be pushed around it won't be the last time.
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AW: HTC going too far help this dev.
Buy SONY...
They release guides in their own forum for rooting & flashing, and support cm devs.

occupational_hazard said:
Still dont see the point of this. If HTC has built and developed the Sense UI, which they own. How are they not in their own to protect their own product? I am not saying I agree with HTC. But they will just blow off any remarks or such left for them in their twitter feed.
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if i put cm on a htc phone, how am i infringing on their sense ui, can i not put linux on a pc that came with windows, the contract we have is with our carriers not with htc, the contract is to pay them monthly for x amount of time

vincom said:
if i put cm on a htc phone, how am i infringing on their sense ui, can i not put linux on a pc that came with windows, the contract we have is with our carriers not with htc, the contract is to pay them monthly for x amount of time
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This isn't about aosp that's clear because the OEMS are obligated to release their kernel source and Google has no issues with their ROMs.
But this could affect Sony, Samsung, lg, and anyone else after they see we can be pushed over so easily their generosity may come to a screeching halt. People like mohan and seanz could end up on the receiving end of lawsuits if this slides. Our options for roms other than aosp could become stock only. I know you guys aren't so short sighted to think this couldn't affect us in detrimental ways.
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mrro82 said:
Rooting my old Inspire was insane. Gold card and all. The skyrocket was a walk in the park in comparison.
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I forgot about that! Rooting my htc made rooting my kindle look easy.
Anyway- if someone wants to start a petition... I will sign it.
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jader13254 said:
Buy SONY...
They release guides in their own forum for rooting & flashing, and support cm devs.
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This right here
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BaconStep said:
This right here
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That's support for cm devs what about people who build stock based ROMs again you guys aren't seeing the picture here
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