WERE FREEEE! =) htc has quit its locked bootloader ways. We win
Proof?
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The CEO of HTC announced it.
Awesome! They probably come to realize how much of a bad idea it would be and what it would do to its sales and market share.
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http://htcsource.com/
It's true, I just read the press release. Nice to know HTC cares about the dev community.
I'll be a customer for life now.
To freakin cool!
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To freakin cool!
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HTC standing their ground. Love it.
Now the only thing holding them back is making devices for ATT...
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How does "making" devices for AT&T hold back HTC?
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Now the only thing holding them back is making devices for ATT...
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They make devices for other providers...switch. problem solved
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How does "making" devices for AT&T hold back HTC?
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Because AT&T Doesnt really like for people to make their device their "own" they want you to use the phone as is..
Now we know the htc holiday will come open and easy for roms!
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Because AT&T Doesnt really like for people to make their device their "own" they want you to use the phone as is..
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Not sure why people blame the carriers for this. Sure they would like you to pay for tethering but they obviously don't have a set policy. Devices range from Samsung which can be flashed without even rooting in some cases to Motorola with locked, signed, encrypted, blah blah. If the carriers were the ones making the decision on bootloaders then there would seem to be more consistency across manufacturers. Sprint even said publicly that they have no say in the matter and were deferring to HTC on the fate of the EVO 3d.
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Not sure why people blame the carriers for this. Sure they would like you to pay for tethering but they obviously don't have a set policy. Devices range from Samsung which can be flashed without even rooting in some cases to Motorola with locked, signed, encrypted, blah blah. If the carriers were the ones making the decision on bootloaders then there would seem to be more consistency across manufacturers. Sprint even said publicly that they have no say in the matter and were deferring to HTC on the fate of the EVO 3d.
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That may be true publicly but privately, I believe carriers heavily "encourage" manufacturers to lock the bl (perhaps even with incentives.)
Carriers defer to the manufacturers questions like this to avoid looking like the bad guy. Kinda like the hot-potato when it comes to OS upgrades.
Sprint: "We're waiting for HTC to get Froyo ready."
HTC: "We're waiting for Sprint to QA their custom apps and functionality."
HTC, you've made me and millions of other HTC users customers for life.
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I don't know about you guys...but I'm getting pretty sick of ATT and they are about to jack up their prices again...I'm just a pessimist, don't worry bout me
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Agreed att is nothing but money hungry eating sharks. I hate them personally but not their phones.
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Agreed att is nothing but money hungry eating sharks. I hate them personally but not their phones.
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All the cell providers in America meet this definition...companies exist for the soul purpose of maoijf money and it just happens that at&t seems to not lose business no matter what they do so they don't have to appease customers. Simple as that.
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HTC, you've made me and millions of other HTC users customers for life.
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+100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
(That's a lot, ain't it?)
That's ****ing *****in' news.
HTC, prepare to dominate.
w00t
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Please take a minute or two and sign this petition and try to help T-Mobile remain the good company it is.....
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/
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Im all for this merger, I mean we can only win here.
Way better coverage and a larger selection of phones.
The only problem I see is price agreement.
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Price and data and customer service! I pay enough already and at&t is tight with their data. At least tmo gives us 5gb before throttling
I do agree with your opinion on coverage but is it worth all the bs...hmmmm
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Im all for this merger, I mean we can only win here.
Way better coverage and a larger selection of phones.
The only problem I see is price agreement.
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The only problems i see...
1) the company who care least about Androids just bought the company who cares the most
2) pricing, data plans, and overages
3) them forcing us to a) buy new phone b) living on EDGE.
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The only problems i see...
1) the company who care least about Androids just bought the company who cares the most
2) pricing, data plans, and overages
3) them forcing us to a) buy new phone b) living on EDGE.
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Saying that sound like an apple will be happy with the merge AT&T-Mobile
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Saying that sound like an apple will be happy with the merge AT&T-Mobile
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you've got me lost.
The only up thing we will have in this merger is coverage. they say that they will honor our current contract, which may be true. But as soon as we go to upgrade we'll be forced into a ATT branded contract with higher fees, lower data caps. The only way i see around this is totally going to suck. Once our contract runs up we will be on a month to month basis with ATT. So we'll have to buy our phone @ full price to avoid the renewal of a contract. That is going to be a worse case situation, but it's still early.
I referred to the first problem off the three than you mentioned the company who care least will buy the one who care most and we all know than att his first top phone is the iPhone and now with the rumors of the iPhone 5 that just gonna blowup the att market
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Alright guys look. In (I believe) the xda general forum there is a thread with this exact same site. I don't think I'm the only one not wanting to see like 5-6 different threads about the same thing.
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you're right, why should people with a t-mobile mytouch 4g talk about t-mobile in the mytouch 4g section of xda forums. makes no sense. much better that it's discussed in the general where the majority of people don't even have contracts with t-mobile.
sent from my t-mobile mytouch 4g using my t-mobile data plan to discuss t-mobile being sold in the t-mobile mytouch 4g section of the xda forums.
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you're right, why should people with a t-mobile mytouch 4g talk about t-mobile in the mytouch 4g section of xda forums. makes no sense. much better that it's discussed in the general where the majority of people don't even have contracts with t-mobile.
sent from my t-mobile mytouch 4g using my t-mobile data plan to discuss t-mobile being sold in the t-mobile mytouch 4g section of the xda forums.
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Because the mytouch 4g is the only T-Mobile phone, I'm sorry I must've forgotten that. And I also forgot that this would basically monopolize the us gsm network market. Not that that would affect anyone.
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does it effect mytouch users?
stop troll moderating.
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does it effect mytouch users?
stop troll moderating.
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In the long run it will affect us.
They are wanting the AWS band that we use for their LTE network. Since our radio are programed for HSPA/HSPA+ they will not work with the LTE network. So yes it does affect us.
But they do have a valid point their are SEVERAL threads on this already. it is getting kind of old. And Facebook petitions add up to nothing. Heck real petitions do not mean anything any more.
there are question threads in the general section, general threads in the questions section, ROM questions in the themes and apps section. I just find it absolutely ridiculous that someone tries to do something positive (no matter how futile anyone deems it to be) and catches heat for it. Of all the misplaced, misdirected threads in the MT4G section, THIS one gets targeted? Come on.
and i know it affects us. it was a rhetorical question.
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Of all the misplaced, misdirected threads in the MT4G section, THIS one gets targeted? Come on.
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you punch a dog in the leg, smack it in the face kick it in the ass and sooner or later the dog will get up and bite you. ya fallow?
Just a little searching and adding to a previous post will help a lot. Regardless of any post type.
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you punch a dog in the leg, smack it in the face kick it in the ass and sooner or later the dog will get up and bite you. ya fallow?
Just a little searching and adding to a previous post will help a lot. Regardless of any post type.
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Thanks for understanding man
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Thanks for understanding man
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I was a member of Crackberry for YEARS and have over 5k post over there. I am fully accustom to people repeating stuff. It's all to common
Its just one of my pet peeves lol
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Ahhhh haaaa
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/.......
What's with the 2 links...?
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Just dont change your plan. I dont care about the merger. I switch phones monthly anyway.
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As most of you know that the Sammy Infuse will be out on the 15th. Who is giving up their Inspire for the Infuse????
I dont "pay" for Samsung products. Junk.
My opinion is sense>touchwiz by a long shot. I don't think the Infuse does enough for me as far as specs go to warrant a change.
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I dont "pay" for Samsung products. Junk.
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My feelings E X A C T L Y!
how would one go about switching phones, i've read in other threads that people have switch phones from one to another. what are at&ts rules on this? are they paying full price?
The captivate was my first and last Samsung phone.... ever
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The captivate was my first and last Samsung phone.... ever
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+1
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I'm sorry, I really want to like Samsung phones again but I can't. My blood pressure can only take but so much. The HTC stays.
Why would you do that to yourself?
HTC is light years ahead of Samsung when it comes to cell phones.. I've kept my inspire STOCK as its ten times better than a hacked Samsung.
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how would one go about switching phones, i've read in other threads that people have switch phones from one to another. what are at&ts rules on this? are they paying full price?
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If within the 30days of original purchase, then you can do a swap out (buyers remorse period). After 30 days you need to go through the Warranty department - It is very difficult to get a swap for a different Make/model phone - especially when a phone first comes out - They usually don't have the "full kit" available for make/model swap outs..
Your other choices are to pay off contract values, or early upgrade (if they let you).
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The captivate was my first and last Samsung phone.... ever
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Same here. I don't think that the Captivate was a bad phone really but no way I am ever going to deal with Samsung again.
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+1
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+1 more
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And yet another +1
Just say no to Samsung. They ****ed up with the captivate fiasco.
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Hell no.
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HTC Inspire FTMFW
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sonluan said:
HTC Inspire FTMFW
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Hell yea!!!
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not since the epic
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The captivate was my first and last Samsung phone.... ever
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X3. Never again with Samsung phones. Advertised features were never implemented (gps), I had multiple hardware issues with multiple handsets, glacial pace of official updates that leave much to be desired upon arrival...no thanks. The only thing it has going for it is Dev support.
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TouchWiz looks like it was designed by kids.
Maybe they should call it TouchKids...
Wait, something about that sounds wrong...
Lol great post.^^^^^^^
The captivate was enough to make me wince at the infuse, but a gs2 would be mighty nice. The sensation looks sensational, but don't know if it will include ATT's 3g bands.
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http://www.phonedog.com/2011/05/13/does-custom-rom-support-affect-the-buying-process/
....just to keep a eye out
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This has been known for a while .
I don't see this being a problem for very long especially on htc, considering that phones like the holiday will more then likely have international "brothers/sisters", that means there will be dev support worldwide working to break open a phones boot loader. I would assume the only reason it hasn't been done to the atrix, is because honestly the phone is a flop. Blur put a bad taste in everyones mouth and not alot of people want to mess with moto.
If you hit up other htc phone boards here on xda there are literally hundreds of developers working on htc phones. I have said it before where there is a will there is a way.
Atrix is no flop
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Locked bootloaders do much harm to the phones' sales. I like the sense rom but the default stock one comes with a lot of bloat and poor battery performance. I flashed the dilligaf's V2 rom and my phone now flies. When the manufacturers cannot unleash the full potential of the phone, why the hell do they have to lock their bootloaders for?
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Atrix is no flop
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That's not what the saturated dev section for the atrix tells me.
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Atrix is no flop
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Lol
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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HAHAHA! That's funny sh*t.
Anyways... If the manufacturers and Phone companies would actually leave the phones open, we wouldn't have this issue.
It wouldn't be too hard for them to do...build a recovery image right into the phone. If something screws up, they is a keypress sequence that would force install factory firmware. Bam...No more brick, and start over. I know I have reference the PSP in several other posts, but they did it right. Maybe the phone manufacturers should take a hint.
There is a PSP dev that goes by Dark_Alex... He created the "Despertar del Cementerio." This translates to "Wake the Dead." This was a service battery and memory stick combo that would literally UNBRICK your PSP. I actually have one, and have purposely killed the power during a firmware update to test it. And it works! Anyways, the point is...this is VERY possible with these phones, no one has done it yet tho.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Haha, I LOLed at work when I read this.
ATT seems to have something to do with this. If I hadn't been able to root my inspire I'd probably have returned it. Too much bloat. Bloated on a phone like that males it even worse (also I never liked MOTO)
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Well if its not rootable and cannot access recovery,then I don't bother. I was walking thru fryys when I saw the inspire and knew I had to get it. Trading my sgs vibrant+$150 for a new inspire sounded great to me. But I didn't think if the bootloader was unlocked or not. Luckily,it was. I got Lucky on this one
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Apple is lame.
First Google post
www.google.com/m?q=apple+htc+cnet&client=ms-opera-mobile-android&channel=new
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www.m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20079905&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-94
Your link is not working
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Try taking out the space before http://m.
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First Google post
www.google.com/m?q=apple+htc+cnet&client=ms-opera-mobile-android&channel=new
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If it's about the patents that apple is saying htc broke, that's late news
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If it's about the patents that apple is saying htc broke, that's late news
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Regardless Steve jobs and apple in general are money hungry Whitney little female dogs. Is it really smart of them to file complaints against the companies that make it possible for them to make money.
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Yeah apple is just for people who don't know better and think the more expensive something is the better. All in all, apple sucks and we android users are superior
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Apple is good for a marriage though...I got so sick of my wife asking me to fix her Win7 system so I bought her a Mac Book and iPhone & told her I know nothing about them. Now she never asks me to fixem. However, I have to keep resetting the router cause the IOS keeps wackin it out.
Yeah the number one thing people say are the sales is what makes ios the best?!?! It's the software not price and what those brainwashed idiots think lmao.
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Yeah the number one thing people say are the sales is what makes ios the best?!?! It's the software not price and what those brainwashed idiots think lmao.
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IPhone = outsourced parts funny that they are filling a complaint with Samsung, open an iPhone 4 sometime see what Chip set its using, cuz it sure ain't apple.....
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why dont htc sue apple for copying htc on the touch screen htc was the first and apple copied screw apple and their locked down pile of crap phones
Yeah I learned such facts several years ago. Screen, chipset, well everything is not apple besides the logo of course!! Steve jobs=over paid jackass
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IPhone = outsourced parts funny that they are filling a complaint with Samsung, open an iPhone 4 sometime see what Chip set its using, cuz it sure ain't apple.....
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why dont htc sue apple for copying htc on the touch screen htc was the first and apple copied screw apple and their locked down pile of crap phones
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Actually that would be LG not HTC, which by the way apple is still using a LG touch screen.. So how exactly do they have a patent on it....
Patent... Maybe? Hm imo, apple went to Steve and asked for a billion to ask Samsung, lg, sony, and sharp to use their products yet label them under the Apple name. Quite sad and pathetic waste of lives
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Actually that would be LG not HTC, which by the way apple is still using a LG touch screen.. So how exactly do they have a patent on it....
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Here's a good idea, wonder if it would work. Why don't we all get together and get a patent to prevent innovation. Then we could sue apple, as all they are doing is stifling innovation cuz they are pissed that they are losing market share to the android nation. I could care less about anyone having to pay Microsoft, I've been more partial to them over crapple my whole life. Crapple seems to think that since they are losing market share they can extinguish the Android flame by going after the manufacturers. Ironic that the main ones they are going after are their very parts suppliers. They must not have heard the old phrase, you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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This is not really relevant to this particular forum and we've all seen out fair share of "Apple Sucks" threads.
Closed.
. hey guys please sign that petition. Htc's ceo lied and said no more locked bootloaders back in may well the vivid has a locked bootloader. Lets please support our android brothers . http://www.groubal.com/htc-vivid-has-locked-bootloader-contrary-to-statements-by-the-company/#sign
I signed it.
That was one of the main reasons why I went with Galaxy Skyrocket vs Vivid.
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Done......
Thanks to everyone who's signing it, you guys are awesome.
HTC has it's positives, and so does Samsung, but this is a total NEGATIVE on HTC's part...
My dream phone:
Build Quality from HTC
Internal Hardware from Samsung
Connectivity (Data, Signal, WiFi) from Motorola
AOSP from Google
^- Amazing phone...... <3
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Thanks to everyone who's signing it, you guys are awesome.
HTC has it's positives, and so does Samsung, but this is a total NEGATIVE on HTC's part...
My dream phone:
Build Quality from HTC
Internal Hardware from Samsung
Connectivity (Data, Signal, WiFi) from Motorola
AOSP from Google
^- Amazing phone...... <3
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I gota say i do not disagree with this^^^^^^^^
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I gota say i do not disagree with this^^^^^^^^
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That's because it's PERFECT!
True ,and if ever this new google powerd motosamtc phone hits the market id buy it
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new google powerd motosamtc phone
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Say what? Sounds like the age ol myth about the perfect woman!
DOne
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Done
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I believe Moto also said no more locked bootloaders. And they've kept their word. Apparently operators can still lock the bootloaders if they choose, though - maybe that's what happened with HTC?
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I believe Moto also said no more locked bootloaders. And they've kept their word. Apparently operators can still lock the bootloaders if they choose, though - maybe that's what happened with HTC?
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That's what it says.. HTC raider is the same phone but another carrier... And its unlockable.
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I believe Moto also said no more locked bootloaders. And they've kept their word. Apparently operators can still lock the bootloaders if they choose, though - maybe that's what happened with HTC?
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atrix2=locked bootloader
Done
And I too would in a heartbeat buy the perfect phone, lol
Off topic, can we have a petition like this to have the carriers release truly unlimited data?
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Thanks to everyone who's signing it, you guys are awesome.
HTC has it's positives, and so does Samsung, but this is a total NEGATIVE on HTC's part...
My dream phone:
Build Quality from HTC
Internal Hardware from Samsung
Connectivity (Data, Signal, WiFi) from Motorola
AOSP from Google
^- Amazing phone...... <3
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^^^^^^^^^^
Heck ya
Wish it was possible.
Wont HTC unlock the bootloader with their online service? I'm sure it'll take forever for them to post it up but they should eventually. Maybe I'm confused. Either way I hate locked bootloaders.
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Done. 10 char
Wife (who just got a Vivid) and I (who just got a Skyrocket) signed it.
Signing now!
Swyped from mah 3vo!
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Wont HTC unlock the bootloader with their online service? I'm sure it'll take forever for them to post it up but they should eventually. Maybe I'm confused. Either way I hate locked bootloaders.
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Yeah but it's terrible.
Swyped from mah 3vo!