Something I've noticed about Quadrant. - T-Mobile LG G2x

I'm not sure if this has been addressed, but I noticed that quadrant scores are different depending on if you are connected to wifi or 3g/4g data. On wifi, I get a score of around 2400-2500. On 4g, I get 2700-2800. This is just more evidence piling up on the already known facts about how unreliable quadrant is as a benchmark program. This proved to be the same on my mt4g.
I've noticed that review sites that run Quadrant(no idea why they still do as there is no support for dual core configurations) tend to run some phones on wifi, and some on their data connection. The scores are always noticeably higher when connected to data compared to wifi.
On other benchmark softwares like smartbench 2011, antutu, etc. the scores are not noticeably effected by the type of data connection the phone is using. This is how it should be, since these are system benchmarks.

Quadrant is so out of date. I only use Smartbench.

WOW no kidding! I just turned off wi-fi, gps, and auto sync and got over 2700! Most times I would get somewhere around a 2400. Never thought that stuff would make a difference.

On 4g I got 2649 and on Wi-Fi I got 2938... not saying you are wrong, but it is different all around no matter what... its all hoobla whoopty doo doos
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Good find. Its time quadrant gets updated with seperate benchmark mechanisms for dual core phones!

mt3g said:
On 4g I got 2649 and on Wi-Fi I got 2938... not saying you are wrong, but it is different all around no matter what... its all hoobla whoopty doo doos
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You can't make that assumption through just one test. You have to take the average of multiple tests in order to get an accurate number. Especially since quadrant is so inconsistent.
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okay this time around I got 2836, 2961 on Wi-Fi...went back to Wi-Fi after the 4g test and got a 2483
and on 4G 2831,2871 going back after Wi-Fi 2655
Like I said its all over the place and all whoopdy doos...
my phone is faster then my friends iPhone 4, I'm happy and he is pissed.

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4G rooted inspire speed is slow to fast

I have an Inspire that is rooted,and after 5 different Roms for1 day each, I have settled into the revolution ROM and it really works great.I have my unlimited plan4G (most of the time I think)and I have my tendering. My question is when running the "sweetest.com" application I get 331 down and 783 up inthe evening and 2592 down and 1447 up in the morning until about noon,is this network congestion? Is there a different radio mod or flash or something that software locks the radio in HSUDA mode or whatever is making it that fast?? If anyone knows of a setting or .apk that addresses this or a setting possibly I would appreciate it,or an explanation if its not a tweakable thing might save hours of obsessing over trying to fix it.Thanks, Vegas
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Yeah, the slow speeds at times are due to all the iphones tying up the network.
newter55 said:
Yeah, the slow speeds at times are due to all the iphones tying up the network.
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Funny, but I notice my speeds do the same. But most of the time it's relatively good.
I definitely think this is network congestion. My best speeds are late at night (usually about 2.5 down/1.5 up). Most of the time my upload stays about the same (between 900k and 1.5mb), but my download goes anywhere from 400k to 2.5mb..or lower
So 2.5 down is the fastest I can expect and the radio with the Revolution ROM is the Best one I could be using? I have heard 4G was capable of 6mbps,No..Anyone?? Is it gonna get better in phases,anyone know the truth?Vegas

Quadrant score going down

I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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MisterDonut said:
I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!
this is my first android, so i'm seeing how every rom and every kernel can effect the the speed.. but now i'm running sub scores, and i feel like maybe this kernel isn't as good.. i tried flashing back to 4.3b.. but no luck, i feel like there is something wrong with the phone
When you are flashing are you doing a factory wipe, cache wipe and dalvik wipe. That may help. As for the 1700 that is what I am getting on a cleaned stock rooted rom. My phone is fast. Once you get into overclocking I feel it effects the life on the phone, but that is just my opinion.
Chalup said:
Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!
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Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.
RogerPodacter said:
Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.
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very true but some kernels have various tweaks that can inflate quadrant scores...also on the droid x you could blow up quadrant by disabling stage fright. these phones are so fast it's hard to tell the difference. i've tested just about every kernel and overclocked all the way to 2.06 and the phone goes from really fast... to really really fast... to overheating and unstable lol
i use linpack and cpu benchmark to compare kernels and overclock/governor settings...pretty much gave up on quadrant
Quadrant means nothing... If you can run this piss out of your phone and not make it stall... Its fast enough.
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I wipe cache and devlic
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MisterDonut said:
I wipe cache and devlic
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That should be good. I agree that something about that kernel might be suspect.
If you're bored, try the kernel that I'm running. Option to overclock to 1.4 or 1.9 depending on which you select, Good battery life, and stable. 1.4 gets 23XX on quad and the 1.9 gets people 2700-3000. No cheating too.

4G really is slower than other phones...

I have this in my review post but wanted to call it out separately to see what others are experiencing. My G2’s best speedtest.net score is 10289 down and 1582 up. The average is in the mid-8’s down and about 1.2mb up. The best score on the G2X is 7013 down and 1263 up. Average is in mid-6’s down and 1mb up. I took the tests at the same time and after the G2X was loaded with the identical apps and configuration that was on my G2. I know both sets of numbers are good compared to some areas of the country, but if the percentage of degradation is the same everywhere the slower the connection the worse the G2X will perform compared to other T-Mobile 4G phones. I'm guessing it's either LG's implementation of the radio hardware and/or software. I'm hoping it's the latter which can be fixed via an update.
I got 8 at tmobile where the myt4g only got 6... Id say its good..
different days have different uses and network clog, one days worth of testing wont prove enough.
try at night, and again tomorrow
xguntherc said:
different days have different uses and network clog, one days worth of testing wont prove enough.
try at night, and again tomorrow
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They were done side by side. So any network congestion would have effected both equally. They're also configured identically, unlike units tested in a store which are stock.
Wow you guys are lucky, I was getting 3 down on the G2 and am getting about 4.5-5 down on the G2x
7 down seems fine enough to me on a mobile phone.
Anyways point being i'm seeing higher speeds locally on my 2x compared to my G2, so who knows.
I get anywhere from 4-7 MB/s down and a solid 2.5-3 Up on my MT4G in vegas..
I'd check my G2x speeds but I boxed it up and it's going back because backlight bleed issue is worse than most I've seen here. Hopefully the next will be a little better.. I can live with a little, not a lot.
Maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't really care if my phone is pulling 2mbps or 10mbps. When I'm surfing the web, everything loaded quickly. When I installed Dungeon Defenders, the update was done downloading in around 5 minutes. Considering it was over 100mb, that's more than acceptable to me.
Does tmo charge extra for 4g like sprint or veriz?
That would upset me if i paid for it. If not then........
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mr.orange303 said:
Does tmo charge extra for 4g like sprint or veriz?
That would upset me if i paid for it. If not then........
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No they don't...
My Lg G2X is getting on average 7mb DL and 1.5mb UL. My MyTouch 4G is getting 6mb DL and 1.3mb UL. Same apps, time and location. The LG G2X is faster.
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No they don't...
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But Its also capped at 5GB and then goes to dial up speed after the 5GB, where as on Sprint %100 unlimited.
Oh c'mon.......
I'm starting to agree with the "I turn my phone on vibrate and won't cut my chicken" guys.
This thread is just ridiculous. Seriously are you TRYING to find things to complain about. These silly data rate comparison threads come up every time a new official rom is released for any phone as well. One guy says it's far worse than before, the next guys says it's the best ever!!! The point is, unless you want to continue your little test in 100 different locations at 100 different times of the day, you're not doing a reasonably analytical test. This is why no two people will ever agree on the results of one persons "scientific" test.
I'm sure the results are "real" to you, but they don't really matter to anyone else.
MWBehr said:
This thread is just ridiculous. Seriously are you TRYING to find things to complain about...
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First, here a quote from the TechCrunch review:
A quick note on the network speed. The G2x is, like the G2, kitted out for T-Mobile’s “4g” HSPA+ network. The G2 got around 9Mb/s down in my neighborhood, with around 3Mb/s up. The G2x reliably goes at half that rate – between 3 and 5 megabits down and around 1.5 up. Not exactly the lightning-fast advertised speeds, but they were fairly consistent and for all the usual uses it was quite fast – loading pages and games in the browser or downloading apps, that is to say.​
So, I'm not crazy. And to expect T-Mobile's self-proclaimed flagship to outperform an older slower phone (the G2) isn't an invalid expectation. Having a super fast processor and a slower connection nets you about the same performance as a slower processor and faster connection when streaming video. My G2 actually plays Hulu faster than my G2X over 4G. On top of that, the G2X is silly fast over Wi-Fi so it's not the phone, it's the implementation of the radio. I like the phone but I'd really like to see it reach its full potential. If you (or anyone else) are fine with it the way it is then you should really have no interest in this thread anyway.
It's Tmobile... not the phone.
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BarryH_GEG said:
First, here a quote from the TechCrunch review:
A quick note on the network speed. The G2x is, like the G2, kitted out for T-Mobile’s “4g” HSPA+ network. The G2 got around 9Mb/s down in my neighborhood, with around 3Mb/s up. The G2x reliably goes at half that rate – between 3 and 5 megabits down and around 1.5 up. Not exactly the lightning-fast advertised speeds, but they were fairly consistent and for all the usual uses it was quite fast – loading pages and games in the browser or downloading apps, that is to say.​
So, I'm not crazy. And to expect T-Mobile's self-proclaimed flagship to outperform an older slower phone (the G2) isn't an invalid expectation. Having a super fast processor and a slower connection nets you about the same performance as a slower processor and faster connection when streaming video. My G2 actually plays Hulu faster than my G2X over 4G. On top of that, the G2X is silly fast over Wi-Fi so it's not the phone, it's the implementation of the radio. I like the phone but I'd really like to see it reach its full potential. If you (or anyone else) are fine with it the way it is then you should really have no interest in this thread anyway.
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Well i think any potential buyer wikl check out this thread. My vibrant was horrible with reception.
My old g1 got double the signal.
So ill report my findings tomorrow and hope its better than my vibrant.
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I have the G2x for the 14 day trial period to test it out and see if the network suits my needs (possibly switching from Verizon). I never really speed tests this often, but I feel it is necessary so I can get an idea of the speeds based on my frequent locations. Verizon is too slow in some key areas for me.
I was surprised to see people talk about 7mb down on T-Mobile, because on the G2x for the few days I've had it, I have yet to see more than 1.5mb down. This is in all different areas and with a full 4G signal. One time a full signal on 4G was much slower than 1 bar of 4G - that never made sense to me? The phone stays on 4G pretty much all the time and even with a full 4G signal, I average about 500kbs down.
I'm hoping it's the phone/software... because if the network performs better than what it does now, I would be much more impressed with the network and would be more inclined to switch. It seems to work okay with basic browsing, but at times it does show that it's slow (like when downloading apps from Market).
Well coming from evolution on sprint I am 100% happy. No BS I was getting .12mbps on sprint 3g and on the rare occasion I got 4g I would avg around 6. But 4g was really limited in the dfw area and battery life was garbage. I'm running cm7 with stock kernal.
With the g2x for the first few days I'm getting 5-7mbps with peaks of 11. And the battery life is immensely better. I haven't transferred my acct from sprint because I wanted to test and so far I'm blown away.
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[Q] Overclocking

I come from an HTC Aria and I remember back in the Aria forums that people said that overclocking your device could fry your processor. The Aria comes packed with a 600mhz processor and it could overclock up to 800 mhz. Now on the Inspire forum I read posts from people who overclocks their phones up to 1.6ghz and apparently nothing happens. That's 60% more than what it is meant to run. I can't help to wonder:
1- Is it really that risky?
2- What's a safe speed to run my Inspire at?
I came from an Aria too. I have yet to find an app that needs more tha about 900MHz. I run mine at 883.200 just to save on battery. It's fun to jack it up to 1.804800GHz and get a quadrant screen capture(1), but I don't see any practical use for that much OC on a phone. As far as damage, I think you'll see erratic operation before you do any permanent damage.
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Mine is usually set with setcpu at 1305 using the smartass2 governor.
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I kept mine at 1.2 most of the time. I even took it up to 2ghz just to see what it was like
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OC is all dependent on the device. Some devices can handle it and some cant, best bet is to try it on yours and find where it can be OC to. Not all phones are made equale.
Gene Poole said:
I came from an Aria too. I have yet to find an app that needs more tha about 900MHz. I run mine at 883.200 just to save on battery. It's fun to jack it up to 1.804800GHz and get a quadrant screen capture(1), but I don't see any practical use for that much OC on a phone. As far as damage, I think you'll see erratic operation before you do any permanent damage.
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Hey Gene! Good to see you. Im afraid my phone would overheat. Whats a safe temperature for the phone? It is between 26 and 33 degress (celsius) isnt it? By the way Im using VU so my phone is running at 1.2ghz by default
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Any time you operate anything beyond its designed specifications/limits you are risking damage. This is whether it's a phone, computer, car, boat, or aircraft.
Most things are over-engineered to a certain extent, but there is not really much of a way to know whether their artificial limits are 10% below or 50% below their actual limit. It's the difference between an operating limit and a design or structural limit.
Now the good news for most computer type things is that they usually have some kind of safety built in. I remember seeing a video many years ago of a computer running without the CPU fan and heat sink. It ran for a little while, got too hot, and shut itself down. The guy put the heat sink and fan back on and it fired right up.
Short term you probably won't notice too much "damage," just a little instability if you get it up too high, but the servicable life of the components will be drastically reduced. This is probably not too big a deal on something people usually replace every 12 to 18 months.
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I came from the Aria as well; this phone doesn't react to overclocking as poorly as the Aria did, so you're pretty much good to go.
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Brad, tribestos and the rest of you. Thank you very much for the answers. You really cleared it up for me
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I'm running RCMix Bliss v1.3 w/Sense 3.5 on my Inspire. I'd like to overclock it and O/C Daemon has gotten good reviews. Where can I download it?
Tanx
I'm a dummy I found Daemon Controler!! I've installed it on my Inspire but it won't let me apply the settings. The "APPLY" button is GRAY. What is the problem??

slow internet on windgray

I noticed that by wifi is a snail on this thing. Even with a full bars, tethering to my phone. I set tether on my inc2 up for one user max. Wiped data, dalvik several times on the xoom and installed EOS 56.
shiny new rom on the xoom, did speed test, got 800 mps roughly, several tries.
then tethered to my inc1, got 2,300 mps. tethered to computer, 2,300 mps. back to xoom, (with zero apps installed) 850.
installed xoom zone. 800 mps. old HC rom, 800. back to EOS, 800.
dbl check computer, 2,400.
any ideas?
Benchmarks and actual performance are two totally different things. Have you tried downloading something on your xoom?
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Yeah I almost turned it in when I first got it because it couldn't stream, when my phone could. Ics fixed that to a degree.
Yeah I would never trust a CPU benchmark but I'm more inclined to give the network download then upload style some consideration. Especially since it was service concerns that led me there. I had considered that maybe the Xoom doesn't process the CNET speed test website well.....but that's why I'm here.
I also tried the speed test program on the market with my dinc1, dinc2, and Xoom. 2400, 2400, 850
Sounds like bad hardware. I would RMA it if you still have warranty.
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Thanks, yeah I never usually go there but I'm starting to lean that way. The only thing is that bothers me with that is that I feel like some little quirks seem to travel from ROM to ROM no matter how many wipes.
I put the Swype apk from my inc2 on it some time ago and still, I can't get Swype to work with fresh installs and repetitive wipes. I picked through the internal but never actually formatted it so I'm thinking maybe I'll go to a fat32 wipe. Then lay a fresh ROM down on that....I assume it will re apply all the folders it needs. Is that the case?
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