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4G really is slower than other phones...

I have this in my review post but wanted to call it out separately to see what others are experiencing. My G2’s best speedtest.net score is 10289 down and 1582 up. The average is in the mid-8’s down and about 1.2mb up. The best score on the G2X is 7013 down and 1263 up. Average is in mid-6’s down and 1mb up. I took the tests at the same time and after the G2X was loaded with the identical apps and configuration that was on my G2. I know both sets of numbers are good compared to some areas of the country, but if the percentage of degradation is the same everywhere the slower the connection the worse the G2X will perform compared to other T-Mobile 4G phones. I'm guessing it's either LG's implementation of the radio hardware and/or software. I'm hoping it's the latter which can be fixed via an update.

I got 8 at tmobile where the myt4g only got 6... Id say its good..

different days have different uses and network clog, one days worth of testing wont prove enough.
try at night, and again tomorrow

xguntherc said:
different days have different uses and network clog, one days worth of testing wont prove enough.
try at night, and again tomorrow
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They were done side by side. So any network congestion would have effected both equally. They're also configured identically, unlike units tested in a store which are stock.

Wow you guys are lucky, I was getting 3 down on the G2 and am getting about 4.5-5 down on the G2x
7 down seems fine enough to me on a mobile phone.
Anyways point being i'm seeing higher speeds locally on my 2x compared to my G2, so who knows.

I get anywhere from 4-7 MB/s down and a solid 2.5-3 Up on my MT4G in vegas..
I'd check my G2x speeds but I boxed it up and it's going back because backlight bleed issue is worse than most I've seen here. Hopefully the next will be a little better.. I can live with a little, not a lot.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't really care if my phone is pulling 2mbps or 10mbps. When I'm surfing the web, everything loaded quickly. When I installed Dungeon Defenders, the update was done downloading in around 5 minutes. Considering it was over 100mb, that's more than acceptable to me.

Does tmo charge extra for 4g like sprint or veriz?
That would upset me if i paid for it. If not then........
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mr.orange303 said:
Does tmo charge extra for 4g like sprint or veriz?
That would upset me if i paid for it. If not then........
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No they don't...

My Lg G2X is getting on average 7mb DL and 1.5mb UL. My MyTouch 4G is getting 6mb DL and 1.3mb UL. Same apps, time and location. The LG G2X is faster.

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No they don't...
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But Its also capped at 5GB and then goes to dial up speed after the 5GB, where as on Sprint %100 unlimited.

Oh c'mon.......
I'm starting to agree with the "I turn my phone on vibrate and won't cut my chicken" guys.
This thread is just ridiculous. Seriously are you TRYING to find things to complain about. These silly data rate comparison threads come up every time a new official rom is released for any phone as well. One guy says it's far worse than before, the next guys says it's the best ever!!! The point is, unless you want to continue your little test in 100 different locations at 100 different times of the day, you're not doing a reasonably analytical test. This is why no two people will ever agree on the results of one persons "scientific" test.
I'm sure the results are "real" to you, but they don't really matter to anyone else.

MWBehr said:
This thread is just ridiculous. Seriously are you TRYING to find things to complain about...
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First, here a quote from the TechCrunch review:
A quick note on the network speed. The G2x is, like the G2, kitted out for T-Mobile’s “4g” HSPA+ network. The G2 got around 9Mb/s down in my neighborhood, with around 3Mb/s up. The G2x reliably goes at half that rate – between 3 and 5 megabits down and around 1.5 up. Not exactly the lightning-fast advertised speeds, but they were fairly consistent and for all the usual uses it was quite fast – loading pages and games in the browser or downloading apps, that is to say.​
So, I'm not crazy. And to expect T-Mobile's self-proclaimed flagship to outperform an older slower phone (the G2) isn't an invalid expectation. Having a super fast processor and a slower connection nets you about the same performance as a slower processor and faster connection when streaming video. My G2 actually plays Hulu faster than my G2X over 4G. On top of that, the G2X is silly fast over Wi-Fi so it's not the phone, it's the implementation of the radio. I like the phone but I'd really like to see it reach its full potential. If you (or anyone else) are fine with it the way it is then you should really have no interest in this thread anyway.

It's Tmobile... not the phone.
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BarryH_GEG said:
First, here a quote from the TechCrunch review:
A quick note on the network speed. The G2x is, like the G2, kitted out for T-Mobile’s “4g” HSPA+ network. The G2 got around 9Mb/s down in my neighborhood, with around 3Mb/s up. The G2x reliably goes at half that rate – between 3 and 5 megabits down and around 1.5 up. Not exactly the lightning-fast advertised speeds, but they were fairly consistent and for all the usual uses it was quite fast – loading pages and games in the browser or downloading apps, that is to say.​
So, I'm not crazy. And to expect T-Mobile's self-proclaimed flagship to outperform an older slower phone (the G2) isn't an invalid expectation. Having a super fast processor and a slower connection nets you about the same performance as a slower processor and faster connection when streaming video. My G2 actually plays Hulu faster than my G2X over 4G. On top of that, the G2X is silly fast over Wi-Fi so it's not the phone, it's the implementation of the radio. I like the phone but I'd really like to see it reach its full potential. If you (or anyone else) are fine with it the way it is then you should really have no interest in this thread anyway.
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Well i think any potential buyer wikl check out this thread. My vibrant was horrible with reception.
My old g1 got double the signal.
So ill report my findings tomorrow and hope its better than my vibrant.
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I have the G2x for the 14 day trial period to test it out and see if the network suits my needs (possibly switching from Verizon). I never really speed tests this often, but I feel it is necessary so I can get an idea of the speeds based on my frequent locations. Verizon is too slow in some key areas for me.
I was surprised to see people talk about 7mb down on T-Mobile, because on the G2x for the few days I've had it, I have yet to see more than 1.5mb down. This is in all different areas and with a full 4G signal. One time a full signal on 4G was much slower than 1 bar of 4G - that never made sense to me? The phone stays on 4G pretty much all the time and even with a full 4G signal, I average about 500kbs down.
I'm hoping it's the phone/software... because if the network performs better than what it does now, I would be much more impressed with the network and would be more inclined to switch. It seems to work okay with basic browsing, but at times it does show that it's slow (like when downloading apps from Market).

Well coming from evolution on sprint I am 100% happy. No BS I was getting .12mbps on sprint 3g and on the rare occasion I got 4g I would avg around 6. But 4g was really limited in the dfw area and battery life was garbage. I'm running cm7 with stock kernal.
With the g2x for the first few days I'm getting 5-7mbps with peaks of 11. And the battery life is immensely better. I haven't transferred my acct from sprint because I wanted to test and so far I'm blown away.
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Gingerbread Speed Issues / Results

I have been back on GingerREMIX for about the last week and have noticed an issue with speeds over 3G / 4G / WIFI. I listen to Tune-In just about 24/7 and with BAMF 1.6.3 (Froyo), it never buffered. It seems with the Gingerbread leak that we have, it buffers over 3G, 4G and WIFI every 20 minutes or so.
So I have put together a little test sample of data speeds over 3G and 4G (I am working on WIFI results as well). The tests were performed on two different days at roughly the same time as well as in the same location to try to capture a fair sample. I will also note that absolutely no apps except for the speed test app were installed over the base ROM when testing.
I uploaded all of my results to google docs to make it easy for everyone to see.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...QjR5ODNNWkluaXJOenc&hl=en_US&authkey=CNHdsMQE
Just something to think about before making the leap to alpha GB.
Disclaimer: In no way does this reflect on the quality of the BAMF ROM(s) as I have experienced the same type of issues on other GB based ROMs. It more or less comes down to the alpha build of GB that we have.

Interesting. Thanks for the "side-by-side" comparison.

Please don't tell me you used speedtest.net mobile app to get these results.
If you did, you should read the other 100 topics about Speedtest app not working on GB, you will in fact get normal speeds with GB just need to use a different speed test.

I really think that the leaked radio has more issues than just the possible bricking. When on CM7 GB, I get normal download speeds in the 12-20 mbps range, same with any froyo rom, however, when on any of the roms that need the leaked GB radio to work, I get horrible speeds. Netbook tethered to phone, Pandora/slacker streaming, YouTube streaming both normal and HQ videos. There is a definite and significant drop in download speeds.
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I really think that the leaked radio has more issues than just the possible bricking. When on CM7 GB, I get normal download speeds in the 12-20 mbps range, same with any froyo rom, however, when on any of the roms that need the leaked GB rom to work, I get horrible speeds. Netbook tethered to phone, Pandora/slacker streaming, YouTube streaming both normal and HQ videos. There is a definite and significant drop in download speeds.
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Interesting, just when I used the leaked GB radio on Das BAMF everything ran fine with plenty of speed. Speedtest (Not the app) showed normal speeds and I never had a problem with downloading/streaming anything even the MR1 PG05IMG.zip to send me back to froyo downloaded in a minute or two (400mb file).
Also, Pandora didn't work on GB so I don't know where you got that from.

The 1.5.6 version of Pandora ran well, I couldn't get 1.5.7 to work though.
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New radio = hot phone

Anyone else experiencing a hot backside of their tb on the new radio. Im even running battery saver mode, undervolted and no overclock.
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no but im not a fan of this new radio.

I agree the radio is great. Just im cooking eggs with my tb.
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i have been experiencing the same thing... big time !
regardless of what rom i use, sense/de-sense or aosp, the phone gets really hot after awhile. i've had a few instances where it got so hot that it froze the phone and i had to yank the battery and let it cool down.
for the hell of it, tried going back to an older radio and the problem went away.
damn.. did have a tad bit better battery on the new radio as well as a very slight improvement in reception... but considering the consequences of the new radio, it's better just to stick to an older one for now.

Was this only happening when using a 3G/4G connection or all the time? I haven't experienced that but I only switched to the new radio a few days ago and haven't done any long term mobile data usage with it yet. I do seem to pick up 4G at my work quicker and in places in the building where I couldn't before.
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I thought I was the only one experiencing this. When I use it too much it gets like this. Or when I play madden 12 it gets that way too
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I know i read if you undervolt it too much it can cause a phone to run hot if done incorrectly. Causes phone to work harder since it needs more power.
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Refering to a couple of the posts above, i am in a 3G only area but i do heavy usage(web, movies) so the phone will be on for a few hours at a time.
As for "undervolting", i use DreamKernal + SetCPU and just overclock to like 1222. I also have a profile set so when the screen is off it is set to max out at 368.
Oh, and for the heck of it tried that VZW thing with pulling the battery to reset location and.it didnt help with the heat either.
On a positive note, at least if your hands are cold(or other body part), then hey!

i think the kernels have alot to do with the heat as well. i doubt the leaked 802 radio will harm anyone's phone. i will admit its a very wonky radio for me. ive just recently combined the cdma 627 radio and the lte 802 radio and all is well. i went 23hrs on a stock battery with lte on all the time. im running cm7+kangbang kernel.

AND YOU ARE RUNNING TWO RADIOS ALL THE TIME WHEN ON 4G.
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jbh00jh said:
AND YOU ARE RUNNING TWO RADIOS ALL THE TIME WHEN ON 4G.
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SOMEBODY SET US UP THE ROM !
as i said above, i get the "hot" phone issue also even though i'm in a 3G only area and have my phone set to CDMA auto (PRL).
õ_Ô

I've been running the latest leak (2.11) rooted, along with the latest radios, for about a week now, and haven't noticed the back getting any hotter than it did before. I'll have to pay more attention and see.

[Q] NexusMod ICS Zero Beta 7 UCLD2 Radio slowness

Yes a noob to Android and yes, first post
Before my quick question I have to say thank you to M0D1441 for this ROM (and his contributors - it is absolutely amazing, and by far - the best ROM out there for Galaxy Skyrocket I727 users.
Flashed this Rom from stock I727R Rom last week and have had huge success with it and cannot wait for the update to this Beta 7.
However, since flashing the UCLD2 radio I notice significant slower speeds compared to whatever the stock was using. I have followed all procedures correctly, am able to auto switchover from LTE and HSPA+ and have had no issues with this ROM that anyone else has reported other than significantly slower speeds.
Max down on HSPA+ has been between 5 - 7 Mbs with upload at 0.2-0.56 Mbs and LTE down: 16-22Mbs (which is not bad) but have full bars and 2.78 up.
Even my home WiFi (802.11n) connection suffers from this new radio with dowload @ 18Mbs and up @ 0.56 compared to stock ROM speeds at least 38.6Mbs down and 3.7Mbs up.
My speeds with all connections with stock radio were, at bare minimum, double to what I am getting now.
I have flashed the UCLD2 radio a few times following procedures and still no change in speeds. I have read nightmare stories about switching back to older radios on the I727R and am nervous to do so.
Wondering if other Rogers users have experienced the same issue and if need be, what radio change to?
What was stock radio on Rogers I727R and is it compatible with the NexusMod ICS Zero Beta 7?
Is/can this UCLD2 radio be not fully compatible for Rogers customers in Canada?
Thanks a million in advance!

I'm on att and I haven't noticed a drop in speed I know its not Rodgers but I can't imagine its all that different
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I noticed huge drop in speed wifi to think modem just not good with all iPhones
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xxsicknessxx said:
I noticed huge drop in speed wifi to think modem just not good with all iPhones
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Huh? iPhones?
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sKiNz-PouNdeR said:
Yes a noob to Android and yes, first post
Before my quick question I have to say thank you to M0D1441 for this ROM (and his contributors - it is absolutely amazing, and by far - the best ROM out there for Galaxy Skyrocket I727 users.
Flashed this Rom from stock I727R Rom last week and have had huge success with it and cannot wait for the update to this Beta 7.
However, since flashing the UCLD2 radio I notice significant slower speeds compared to whatever the stock was using. I have followed all procedures correctly, am able to auto switchover from LTE and HSPA+ and have had no issues with this ROM that anyone else has reported other than significantly slower speeds.
Max down on HSPA+ has been between 5 - 7 Mbs with upload at 0.2-0.56 Mbs and LTE down: 16-22Mbs (which is not bad) but have full bars and 2.78 up.
Even my home WiFi (802.11n) connection suffers from this new radio with dowload @ 18Mbs and up @ 0.56 compared to stock ROM speeds at least 38.6Mbs down and 3.7Mbs up.
My speeds with all connections with stock radio were, at bare minimum, double to what I am getting now.
I have flashed the UCLD2 radio a few times following procedures and still no change in speeds. I have read nightmare stories about switching back to older radios on the I727R and am nervous to do so.
Wondering if other Rogers users have experienced the same issue and if need be, what radio change to?
What was stock radio on Rogers I727R and is it compatible with the NexusMod ICS Zero Beta 7?
Is/can this UCLD2 radio be not fully compatible for Rogers customers in Canada?
Thanks a million in advance!
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Keep in mind the modem is for AT&T, so not surprised you're seeing slower speeds on Rogers. Also, the modem, a.k.a. Radio has no affect on Wifi as Wifi is part of the kernel.
Bottom line, your experience is more than likely going to be a "best effort" at best; think of it like trying to install a Ford part on your Chevy car.

RiPpeR_dUdE said:
Huh? iPhones?
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Keep in mind the modem is for AT&T, so not surprised you're seeing slower speeds on Rogers. Also, the modem, a.k.a. Radio has no affect on Wifi as Wifi is part of the kernel.
Bottom line, your experience is more than likely going to be a "best effort" at best; think of it like trying to install a Ford part on your Chevy car.
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Thanks for your input. Yes, I figured this radio may only indeed be for AT&T but it is such a great modem/radio. My battery life is far superior with the UCDL2 as opposed to the stock KJ7 radio. Guess it's a toss between speed or bat life
As for WiFi, I realize this radio should have no effect on it but it is definitely slower with the UCLD2 modem. Strange - I will have to try and get this under the microscope and see how/if/what is effecting it.
This may be a dumb question (sorry) but can you use the stock radio with any ICS ROM or is that just going to cause nightmare issues?

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Ummmm....what? iPhones? What are those?

I am not on LTE but with this ROM and modem I've been getting the best speeds I've ever gotten.
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I am not on LTE but with this ROM and modem I've been getting the best speeds I've ever gotten.
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Wow. Really? That's what I figured would happen for me but... not happening. The only thing I did not do was install busybox but I can't imagine that would make any difference to the radio.
I just want to make sure i am not damaging my phone by using this modem. maybe it just needs some settling time but it has been almost a week.
What kind of speeds are you getting?

I've had trouble with both leaked radios. Went back to GB/GB radio until a new leak shows up(hopefully rogers leak)

xda1zero said:
I've had trouble with both leaked radios. Went back to GB/GB radio until a new leak shows up(hopefully rogers leak)
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Ha, when pigs fly... but I'm secretly.hoping right along with ya bud

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I've had trouble with both leaked radios. Went back to GB/GB radio until a new leak shows up(hopefully rogers leak)
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I totally hear ya. However, I have noticed something interesting which completely makes sense. After having the modem settle for a week now I have noticed that my daytime speeds on HSPA+ are slower compared to daytime. Now, Daytime on average is 9.51Mbs down and 1.27Mbs up (which is actually not bad) compared to night (after 9pm) getting an average 13.72Mbs down and 2.73Mbs up. I can't really complain as this seems the norm for GTA on Rogers.
LTE daytime speeds have now been an average of 23.7Mbs down and 3.78Mbs up compared to night time speeds of 31.2Mps down and 5.71up. And, this is on the outskirts of LTE in the East end!
However, my Wi-Fi speeds still suffer. My LTE speeds are far exceeding anything I get through my 802.11n router which maybe something in the Kernel which I will check out.
So really, I can no longer complain Guess it just took some time to settle in the device.
As for the Rogers ICS, according to this article: http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-reveals-us-ice-cream-sandwich-update-list , " The big picture is that if you've got a Galaxy Tab or Galaxy S II-class phone, chances are you're in line for an ICS update later in the year."
Ouch! Yet no announcement has been officially been made for North America. And, don't forget Rogers will need to test and ram it full of their bloatware before we see it!

sKiNz-PouNdeR said:
I totally hear ya. However, I have noticed something interesting which completely makes sense. After having the modem settle for a week now I have noticed that my daytime speeds on HSPA+ are slower compared to daytime. Now, Daytime on average is 9.51Mbs down and 1.27Mbs up (which is actually not bad) compared to night (after 9pm) getting an average 13.72Mbs down and 2.73Mbs up. I can't really complain as this seems the norm for GTA on Rogers.
LTE daytime speeds have now been an average of 23.7Mbs down and 3.78Mbs up compared to night time speeds of 31.2Mps down and 5.71up. And, this is on the outskirts of LTE in the East end!
However, my Wi-Fi speeds still suffer. My LTE speeds are far exceeding anything I get through my 802.11n router which maybe something in the Kernel which I will check out.
So really, I can no longer complain Guess it just took some time to settle in the device.
As for the Rogers ICS, according to this article: http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-reveals-us-ice-cream-sandwich-update-list , " The big picture is that if you've got a Galaxy Tab or Galaxy S II-class phone, chances are you're in line for an ICS update later in the year."
Ouch! Yet no announcement has been officially been made for North America. And, don't forget Rogers will need to test and ram it full of their bloatware before we see it!
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Try LeeC's UCLA3 modem ported for ICS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567213
It says UCAL4, but it is 3. I found UCLD to be unreliable, and LeeC's fix is wonderful.
Good luck !

Thanks. I am going to give that one a try and see how it performs this weekend. Thanks for the link!

[Q] Bell HTC 1s Speeds

Hey what are some of the speeds people are getting with the Bell network (canadian) for their 1s....
I can only seem to get around 5 - 7mbps down max... anybody getting double digits?
also can you post your rom and radio specifications as well...

I'm with Bell as well in Toronto and my max download speed ever was 12MB/s and that was a peak realistically I only see about 4-8ish. I have a feeling though I'm being throttled. I found my data increassed slightly by removing the bell proxy in my APN. Would you be able to send me a screenshot of your APN so I can make sure mine is rightish.
I am running radio 1.06s with team venom Rom. I recently did an experiment with all the radios to see which one have me the best data and 1.06s was the most consistent. On a side note I couldn't believe how much data speed test can use. I used 450mB just on speed test
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hmm ya im getting an average of between 4 - 8 as well... :S which makes no sense cuz this phone is able to handle so much more ...
the APN im using is the stock APN for bell which comes with Viper 1.2 rom... im currently using the 1.06 es radio... seems to be giving good signals but still bad download rate... ill try to upgrade to the new one and see what happens....
hmm also... using 450MB on a speed test is definitely not possible :S... u might have something else running in the background thats sucking it up...

I meant 450mb cumulative after testing multiple radios
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