New radio = hot phone - Thunderbolt General

Anyone else experiencing a hot backside of their tb on the new radio. Im even running battery saver mode, undervolted and no overclock.
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no but im not a fan of this new radio.

I agree the radio is great. Just im cooking eggs with my tb.
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i have been experiencing the same thing... big time !
regardless of what rom i use, sense/de-sense or aosp, the phone gets really hot after awhile. i've had a few instances where it got so hot that it froze the phone and i had to yank the battery and let it cool down.
for the hell of it, tried going back to an older radio and the problem went away.
damn.. did have a tad bit better battery on the new radio as well as a very slight improvement in reception... but considering the consequences of the new radio, it's better just to stick to an older one for now.

Was this only happening when using a 3G/4G connection or all the time? I haven't experienced that but I only switched to the new radio a few days ago and haven't done any long term mobile data usage with it yet. I do seem to pick up 4G at my work quicker and in places in the building where I couldn't before.
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I thought I was the only one experiencing this. When I use it too much it gets like this. Or when I play madden 12 it gets that way too
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I know i read if you undervolt it too much it can cause a phone to run hot if done incorrectly. Causes phone to work harder since it needs more power.
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Refering to a couple of the posts above, i am in a 3G only area but i do heavy usage(web, movies) so the phone will be on for a few hours at a time.
As for "undervolting", i use DreamKernal + SetCPU and just overclock to like 1222. I also have a profile set so when the screen is off it is set to max out at 368.
Oh, and for the heck of it tried that VZW thing with pulling the battery to reset location and.it didnt help with the heat either.
On a positive note, at least if your hands are cold(or other body part), then hey!

i think the kernels have alot to do with the heat as well. i doubt the leaked 802 radio will harm anyone's phone. i will admit its a very wonky radio for me. ive just recently combined the cdma 627 radio and the lte 802 radio and all is well. i went 23hrs on a stock battery with lte on all the time. im running cm7+kangbang kernel.

AND YOU ARE RUNNING TWO RADIOS ALL THE TIME WHEN ON 4G.
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AND YOU ARE RUNNING TWO RADIOS ALL THE TIME WHEN ON 4G.
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SOMEBODY SET US UP THE ROM !
as i said above, i get the "hot" phone issue also even though i'm in a 3G only area and have my phone set to CDMA auto (PRL).
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I've been running the latest leak (2.11) rooted, along with the latest radios, for about a week now, and haven't noticed the back getting any hotter than it did before. I'll have to pay more attention and see.

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4G rooted inspire speed is slow to fast

I have an Inspire that is rooted,and after 5 different Roms for1 day each, I have settled into the revolution ROM and it really works great.I have my unlimited plan4G (most of the time I think)and I have my tendering. My question is when running the "sweetest.com" application I get 331 down and 783 up inthe evening and 2592 down and 1447 up in the morning until about noon,is this network congestion? Is there a different radio mod or flash or something that software locks the radio in HSUDA mode or whatever is making it that fast?? If anyone knows of a setting or .apk that addresses this or a setting possibly I would appreciate it,or an explanation if its not a tweakable thing might save hours of obsessing over trying to fix it.Thanks, Vegas
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Yeah, the slow speeds at times are due to all the iphones tying up the network.
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Yeah, the slow speeds at times are due to all the iphones tying up the network.
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Funny, but I notice my speeds do the same. But most of the time it's relatively good.
I definitely think this is network congestion. My best speeds are late at night (usually about 2.5 down/1.5 up). Most of the time my upload stays about the same (between 900k and 1.5mb), but my download goes anywhere from 400k to 2.5mb..or lower
So 2.5 down is the fastest I can expect and the radio with the Revolution ROM is the Best one I could be using? I have heard 4G was capable of 6mbps,No..Anyone?? Is it gonna get better in phases,anyone know the truth?Vegas

Anyone else have 3g problems?

My 3g always goes away and I have to cycle it in the pull down bar. It's not a huge problem but its annoying because it will always log me out of googl3 talk. Does anyone else have that problem. I've had it with every Rom I've tried. My phone also does random reset for no reason. Again I've had this problem with every Rom I have tried. Are these just known issues with the current radio are is there a fix for these? Any help would be great thanks.
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It's a problem with the original and the leaked radio. I have it happen fairly frequently along with my signal dropping for unknown reasons. The radio firmware in the TB leaves a lot to be desired.
My 3G drops out and comes back but no random reboots. I am overclocked to 1.2 GHz running Bamf 1.6.2 remix with Ad's latest kernel and the latest leaked radios. I think it's mostly due to issues here in my area though (I had no LTE problems at work on Friday afternoon when it came back up.)
I have 3g drops as well. It happens randomly.
My 3G has been wacky the last few days. Constant drops (when they didn't happen before), and it has just been awfully slow. Hoping they are performing some maintenece for a nice 4G upgrade in my area
Thanks for your replies. It's nice to know I'm not alone. I did do that ##778 thing o heard about on here and cycles rev a. To enabled and now my 3g seems pretty consistent. I don't know what that changes though.
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[Q] Kernel Help

Right now I'm running H57 with JT's 4/15 voodoo kernel. For the past few weeks my battery life has been miserable. I've tried several different Kernels, wiping, data, cache, dalvick cache, and battery stats. Ever since the bad battery life, I've noticed that the Android OS is consuming much larger battery percents than it used to 30-50%. It used to stay around 5% or less. Also I been using CPU spy for a couple weeks. My CPU seems to spend almost all of its time at 800 Mhz for some reason. It will not power down to 100 Mhz even if I turn it on and leave it in my pocket for a few hours. Today i've burned 80% of my battery in 5 hrs while it sat in my pocket during an exam. Any advice on what I can do or check to see what exactly the problem is?
Im not quite sure what the issue could be but I can suggest a program called osmonitor that might help you narrow down what rogue process is eating away. i recently just upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 as well. I am running JTs 4.15 voodoo kernel. My battery seems about the same so far as 2.1, maybe something with H57 ?
Yeah, I can try another rom. It was happening prior to H57 though. I've been on 2.2 for a while now. 2.2 was running great at first. It happened while on PNP. At first it was amazing on battery. I don't remember changing anything specific to ruin my battery life. To the best of my knowledge it occurred after flashing OTB on PNP. I'll download osmonitor and see what i can find. Thanks.
I'm pretty much stock / rooted w voodoo and about same as eclair check the misc section in osmonitor for cpu scaling
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Here's a screen shot.
Er you're roaming?
Yeah, I'm pretty much always roaming. No USCC in Raleigh where I go to school. The only time i'm not is when I go back home, which is not a whole lot anymore.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much always roaming. No USCC in Raleigh where I go to school. The only time i'm not is when I go back home, which is not a whole lot anymore.
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That is likely why your battery life sucks. The phones is constantly trying to find a better signal. Also, USCC doesn't always enforce this but they do have a clause in the contract that they can shut down your line for using it more than 50% of the time outside of their network. Just something to keep in mind.
Yeah, I've heard that, but I've had uscc up here for 3 years now. It used to be fine up here. I've had it in raleigh for 6 months and it just start acting up about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
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I'm going to be in uscc service for about 3 weeks here. I'll see if it makes a difference.
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And the answer is no. I charged the phone over night. Left to fish at 5:30 this morning. Unplugged the phone and turned it on when I left, turned off tasker just to be sure that wasn't causing the issue, and left the phone on the table at home. Back at 3:30, phone at 35% not even using it. I can't find anything using osmonitor. When I look at it, osmonotor is usually using the largest amount of resources.
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And in 30 minutes it has dropped another 10%.
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Battery life is not something people can fix for you, there are too many factors that affect it, u just need to troubleshoot. I've had various results with different roms but typically it is your usage and the apps on your phone that are culprit
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I completely understand that. That's why I spent a couple weeks troubleshooting to try and find out what the problem was. Like I said I can leave the phone on all day and never use it and the battery still sucks, so It's not usage. I can not find any apps that are consuming much battery. The only thing I changed between good battery and bad is from JT's voodoo kernel to OTB. Android OS and System began to use 60% of the battery and a 5 minute phone call will burn 5-10 %. I said that sucks, switched back to JT's kernel problem still persists trying different roms and kernels. That's why I posted this to see if something could have been messed up when flashing to OTB.

[Q] thunderbolt tethering

Really torn between getting a thunderbolt or a charge. I'm leaning towards thunderbolt because I like to use custom roms and the support seems better for that. I saw a review that said tethering on the thunderbolt can be problematic. have other people seen that? If so does it go away if you change to a custom rom or is it a hardware issue?
I had major problems with dropping 4g with the stock tether but after switching to one of the wireless tether apps for root users I have no more issues at all on my thunderbolt.
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good to know. the only thing that's holding me back right now is the battery life. I could live with a screen that's not as vibrant. I have the incredible right now, and have never made it through a day without plugging it in or swapping batteries. It's more or less broken for me now (you can see my other posts if you're curious), and I suspect all the battery swapping was a large factor in the issues I'm seeing now. I'm worried if I get the thunderbolt I'll end up with similar problems.
Tethering on the tbolt is seamless and easy. I use the stock app, or Barnacle. Both work like a charm.
Beware, using wifi tether with the stock app over 4g will drain your battery so fast that even if you have it plugged into your pc the battery still goes down. you have to plug it into the wall.
ive noticed that the barnacle app uses less power than the stock app uses.
chrisneel said:
I had major problems with dropping 4g with the stock tether but after switching to one of the wireless tether apps for root users I have no more issues at all on my thunderbolt.
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oh dude, i thought i was the only one. it's really pissing me off and i cant find a solution. i did try the wilress tether app. but same thing keeps happening.
which rom are you using/kernel/radio and which version of that wireless app are you using? i'm on synergy senless 3.0 (nightly) with the ziggy kernel and mr2 radio.
fwiw, I went with the thunderbolt. I guess verizon is worried about ppl getting out of their contracts or something, cause they gave me the upgrade price eventhough it's early for me. I bet if I tried I could have even gotten a better deal, but I'm just too lazy and impatient.
When you guys say it's "dropping 4G" do you mean it drops down to 3G or it stays on 4G but loses connectivity?
Had the tbolt first. Reboot issuers and vzw sent me a charge to use till reboot issues fixed. Long story short. The charge was used 48 hire and sent back. Feels cheap. Os is slower. Battery life was about same for charge as with tbolt
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PeterDLai said:
When you guys say it's "dropping 4G" do you mean it drops down to 3G or it stays on 4G but loses connectivity?
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does not get to 3g. 4g icon disappears and reappears three seconds later. but when it appears tether does not want to work. when you try to refresh website on the computer, the 4g disappears. if you take a speedtest on the phone app, it works flawlessly. at the same time as the app runs you use the computer,4g magically disappaears.
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Tethering on the tbolt is seamless and easy. I use the stock app, or Barnacle. Both work like a charm.
Beware, using wifi tether with the stock app over 4g will drain your battery so fast that even if you have it plugged into your pc the battery still goes down. you have to plug it into the wall.
ive noticed that the barnacle app uses less power than the stock app uses.
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That hasn't been the case for me, I"ll often leave the hotspot on all day at work with pandora going and it's always fully charged off of the PC usb port.
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oh dude, i thought i was the only one. it's really pissing me off and i cant find a solution. i did try the wilress tether app. but same thing keeps happening.
which rom are you using/kernel/radio and which version of that wireless app are you using? i'm on synergy senless 3.0 (nightly) with the ziggy kernel and mr2 radio.
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I'm using BAMF 2.1 remix and imos 3.4.0 kernel, wireless tether version 2.0.7 it works great other than it has to be plugged in or the data freezes til I wake the screen up.
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PeterDLai said:
When you guys say it's "dropping 4G" do you mean it drops down to 3G or it stays on 4G but loses connectivity?
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No it would lose all data completely and a soon as turned the tether of it would pop right back up.
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well i solved all of my tethering problems by going back to froyo. am now on bamf 1.8 remix and loving it. tether works like it should and even works with the screen off. something is off inthe gb kernal that forces tether to close when screen is off. slight remedy is to up the processor speed, until you lose the 4g signal lol.
i think i'll just wait for the official gb, need the internet and all.
This used to happen with me where my 4g would disconnect while using the Wireless tether app.
Im on BAMF Sense 3.0 RC3. and I downloaded the wireless tether app, but the only the stable version worked for me, I had bamf remix before the sense and the newest version worked for me, but when i installed it on my bamf sense version, it wouldnt work, so I had to use the regular stable version not the experimental

CM7 MR2.5 bat issues

Hello to all you great people! I am not new to this site but I havent posted much or at all. This site is increadible and has taught me a ton about what a droid can do once you know how to use it. Thanks everyone! Anyway I have a question that I would of posted in the CM7 dev thread but I dont have permission since I havent posted much. Is anyone having bat drain issues with the newest build (RC1.1 MR2) using the GB radio 2.5? I have lost over 10% bat life in 25 mins while in airplane mode, no data including wifi and the screen was only on for maybe 2 or 3 mins. It may be a problem on my end but I just wanted to see if anyone else is having an issue with this. Oh and thanks to all you devs for doing all the hard work and dealing with angry wifes or girlfriends! We all appreciate it!
spider366 said:
Hello to all you great people! I am not new to this site but I havent posted much or at all. This site is increadible and has taught me a ton about what a droid can do once you know how to use it. Thanks everyone! Anyway I have a question that I would of posted in the CM7 dev thread but I dont have permission since I havent posted much. Is anyone having bat drain issues with the newest build (RC1.1 MR2) using the GB radio 2.5? I have lost over 10% bat life in 25 mins while in airplane mode, no data including wifi and the screen was only on for maybe 2 or 3 mins. It may be a problem on my end but I just wanted to see if anyone else is having an issue with this. Oh and thanks to all you devs for doing all the hard work and dealing with angry wifes or girlfriends! We all appreciate it!
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On mr2 it did feel like my battery was draining faster than normal.. with the stock kernel at least. Glad I'm not the only one try switching kernels
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I actually had this problem too with the stock kernel, and once I overclocked with the Dream kernel it actually stopped draining my battery, strange.
I did try using Imoseyon's CM7 leankernel but had the same effect. Ill try the dream kernel and report back. Thank guys!!
I'm on my first day with this build of CM7, with MR2.5 and noticed my battery has drained way faster than it did with gingeritis.
Did you try wiping battery stats?
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Is there an official name for this kernel, or someplace to get it? I tried a quick Google search for "htc thunderbolt dream kernel", and it didn't bring up anything definite.
I noticed the battery drain too. CM7 7.1.0 RC1 with the MR2.5 radio. It seems to be "cell standby" that's using the highest percentage of the battery. I have it set to CDMA / EvDo auto.
What programs do you have running? Are you overclocked? I an running mr2.5 cm7.1 rc1.1 and still have 22% on 18 hours unplugged. 3 hour screen on, lots of texting, xda browsing, market updates, and an hour of plans vs zombies. On stock kernel, no overclocking. Using interactive governor.
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I do have things set to run in the background, but they don't even register a high enough percentage in the battery usage to show there. I was not having battery issues with the 7.0.1 RC 6 on MR1 (the last build).
I've tried two of the utkanos kernels (not the OC one), and the dream kernel. On both of the utkanos kernels, I had no data. I tried rebooting several times, switching data on and off, and changing the network mode. No luck. The dream kernel took several minutes, but data finally came on. I haven't used it long enough to comment on any battery life differences between stock CM7 and this.
Running BAMF getting 1 1/2 on battery easy on 2.5
I am currently running the 2.5 on my BAMF sense 3 2.3.2 dream kernal. My battery is lasting very nicely currently. See the post below I have had better times the best was 1 day and 19 hours.
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Cheers,
Azbobs
Ok so here's the news on my end. With the dream kernel things seem much better! However I was watching my ma usage and it went from 48ma to 240ma something after turning on wifi. Then after turning wifi off it never dropped. I rebooted and things went back to a cool 48ma. I'm guessing my original problem was with the stock kernel. But now that I'm on the new one the phone wont power down the wifi or something and made me burn thru my bat till I rebooted. Any ideas gents? Reboot did fix but that usually kills a good 4 to 10% of my bat everytime. I have next to nothing running in the background too.
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Guess I should add that now after reboot I'm around 100 ma usage and steady with wifi on. Maybe a reboot once a day might do the trick till CM is finalized. Was thinking bout trying the mr2 radio stead of 2.5. Anyone know if there's a difference or advantage to either?
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I was having trouble until i started using the KangBang kernel, that one seems to be the best for me

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