Quadrant score going down - Thunderbolt General

I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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MisterDonut said:
I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!

this is my first android, so i'm seeing how every rom and every kernel can effect the the speed.. but now i'm running sub scores, and i feel like maybe this kernel isn't as good.. i tried flashing back to 4.3b.. but no luck, i feel like there is something wrong with the phone

When you are flashing are you doing a factory wipe, cache wipe and dalvik wipe. That may help. As for the 1700 that is what I am getting on a cleaned stock rooted rom. My phone is fast. Once you get into overclocking I feel it effects the life on the phone, but that is just my opinion.

Chalup said:
Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!
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Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.

RogerPodacter said:
Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.
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very true but some kernels have various tweaks that can inflate quadrant scores...also on the droid x you could blow up quadrant by disabling stage fright. these phones are so fast it's hard to tell the difference. i've tested just about every kernel and overclocked all the way to 2.06 and the phone goes from really fast... to really really fast... to overheating and unstable lol
i use linpack and cpu benchmark to compare kernels and overclock/governor settings...pretty much gave up on quadrant

Quadrant means nothing... If you can run this piss out of your phone and not make it stall... Its fast enough.
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I wipe cache and devlic
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MisterDonut said:
I wipe cache and devlic
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That should be good. I agree that something about that kernel might be suspect.
If you're bored, try the kernel that I'm running. Option to overclock to 1.4 or 1.9 depending on which you select, Good battery life, and stable. 1.4 gets 23XX on quad and the 1.9 gets people 2700-3000. No cheating too.

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How to get a better quadrant score?

Ok I've just performed the Super Rooter Extreme guide and I'm currently getting around 1780 for a quadrant score.... while it's much better than the 900's I was wondering how I can make this thing even faster? Some folks are reporting a 2500+ quadrant on this phone and I'm wondering how to get closer to that score?
itpromike said:
Ok I've just performed the Super Rooter Extreme guide and I'm currently getting around 1780 for a quadrant score.... while it's much better than the 900's I was wondering how I can make this thing even faster? Some folks are reporting a 2500+ quadrant on this phone and I'm wondering how to get closer to that score?
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The higher scores are coming from people running an EXT2 version of the lagfix. The differences in real world speed between the two really aren't noticeable- just looks pretty in quadrant =P
I think you are hung up on numbers rather then looking at real world performance...
And ext2 lacks any features to guarantee the safety of your data in the event of crash or power loss. And the loopback hacks probably cause both filesystems to cache data, and I don't think anybody has analyzed what this arrangement does for data safety.
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I'm getting 2001 with SRE with the 1.2ghz patch and baked in lagfix.
Well what prompted me to inquire is the fact that live wallpapers are laggy for me... well I mean they play smooth and then chug for a second then play smooth again then chugs for a second... It's not completely smooth and fluid 100% of the time.
That may be a configuration issues on your end. Or perhaps a bad flash.
Live wallpapers worked perfectly for me on my stock ROM.
There's also the possibility that it's the particular live wallpaper you're using... maybe it's poorly coded or otherwise busted.
Now if the problem persists with all wallpapers uhhh maybe you've got something else installed that doesn't agree with the system

Benchmarks - Quadrant, Linpack, & Neocore

Here are my results for all three benchmarks right after I killed my Tasks
Im running KC1 and using tegrak Overclock to 1.3
Post what yah got.
btw, I noticed alot of other folks posting up multi-colored quandrant results. Is there another app that I should be using?
fknfocused said:
Here are my results for all three benchmarks right after I killed my Tasks
Im running KC1 and using tegrak Overclock to 1.3
Post what yah got.
btw, I noticed alot of other folks posting up multi-colored quandrant results. Is there another app that I should be using?
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Quadrant Advanced provides the breakdown for each individual area (multi-colored).
http://slideme.org/application/quadrant-advanced
The thing about quadrant however, is it's not optimized or suited for the processor in our phones (Hummingbird). It was designed for snapdragon processors.
Additionally, Quadrant is sub par in my opinion on benchmark test apps (even though it's well known) because it does operations that aren't typical. If you get advanced you'll see that it does like 60% all IO operations, however thats a really strange test because it would be like you running a full on database on your phone.
So the scenarios and tests it runs are not representative of the scenarios you are going to use your phone to perform.
I like SmartBench better because it gives you an index for Gaming and Productivity.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G's will slightly outperform the snapdragon/adreno combo that you see in the MT4G etc. Very slight advantage. In regard to productivity it does well too.
Thanks for the info Joe, Im new to all of this and ran accross benchmarks so I tried it. It was something else to do while I await the almighty CWM. haha
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Thanks for the info Joe, Im new to all of this and ran accross benchmarks so I tried it. It was something else to do while I await the almighty CWM. haha
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No worries it was one of those things where I was bummed that my wife's MT4G was triple the score on my SGS4G so I investigated haha.
Yep same here . It's real close from what I can tell.

i9003 antutu scores show higher than i9000!

I tested 3 times just to check if there could be an error but it isn't , my antutu scores show i9003 (XXKB3 fw) to be higher than i9000.
Feels good but wondering how is it possible since all I have been reading that i9000 has better hardware than i9003.
In the bar chart it shows as My device:2083, what does that mean?
It will be higher, because you have applied lag fix which increases the database score dramatically. Hence . You would get a normal database i/o score of around 100.
Hmm great I wil also try
Antutu score without lag fix will be 2000 and above in sgs sl. We have already published our scores in rex.s thread. Lag fix improves only quadrant score by twice. Yes, our scores are higher than sgs.
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But it has been already said that lagfix can only improve the antutu benchmark score and nothing else? Is that so?
@sgsl
Did u tried uninstalling lagfix? I think many are having trouble in uninstalling it.
Hmm for undo the lagfix the hard reset or factory reset will be the option and I have also tried to undo it but it says playlogos.bin is not found so to undo ther lagfix I have to hard reset my phone
Did u tried uninstalling lagfix? I think many are having trouble in uninstalling it.
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No i didn't try removing it, but read here on xda forum about the playlogos.bin, in one of those thread someone discussed a root application which could restore the playlogos.bin & then you can remove the lagfix.
I cant find that thread as of now but do remember that the app was some kind of root tool or root file manager.
Otherwise the only method left is hard reset or factory reset.
No dude, it does not improve antutu score. My personal experience is lagfix only improves quadrant scores. Further These scores have no relationship with improvement of user interface and fluid experience. So no point in using lag fix.
@sgs not sure if factory reset can remove lag fix. The only way may be to reflash.
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Just to reverify, I ran antutu, now, my score is 1955. slightly low compared to yours. The difference is in I/O SCORE, which is slightly higher sure to lagfix. But for quadrant score doubles after applyong lag fix.
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This means nothing, as does quadrant scores..
Can you also post the screenshots of benchmark figures (2nd screenshot) as it will tell why the difference exist.
Tried from xda app. But failed, I do not have access to pc now will upload in the evening.
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My Score
my score on antutu is 2092
You have applied lag fix, my I/O is 85 without lag fix.
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what does I/O mean?
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what does I/O mean?
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Input and output operations per second. It means how much data can be fetched from a database and stored to it in one second of operation
is it normal?
my antutu score is 2531 without applying any lagfix or any graphics improvement patch!
its just a new phone with not much tweaks!
3D graphics score was 794!
build: froyo DDKF1
Antutu or Quadrant dont really mean anything? And, 2531 is totally normal..Don't worry
okk
well i thought the same..did the test just for fun..
as far as gaming(gpu) of sl is concerned..i think its pretty decent! not that bad as much people say about it
max_rockzz said:
okk
well i thought the same..did the test just for fun..
as far as gaming(gpu) of sl is concerned..i think its pretty decent! not that bad as much people say about it
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I think, you would switch to a GB ROM. It gives you better scores and is pretty fast!

low quadrant score

Hi all, first time posting and sorry if this has been asked before. I am running cm7 nightly and have recently tried the quadrant benchmark and am getting some pretty low scores. I know these builds are not stable but even so the scores are low. getting mid 1600s and I have seen other around 2200. is this just because of the cm7 build? thanks.
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Install this kernel, overclock to 12-1300mhz and try again.
wow sweet! bumped to 1200 and ran a 2000 on quadrant. what's the most the captivate CPU can handle?
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Can't really say much for Quadrant, as I haven't run it in forever, but I run 1.5ghz stable 24/7 on cm7 w/ glitch. Runs buttery smooth through pretty much any app.
I've kinda been out of the loop in regards to the Captivate, but afaik max clock is 1.6.
I heard something about shao doing a 1.8 kernel, but again, idk how true it is or anything, and I'm lax in time, so I can't really research lol.
yea i see the option to run at 1.6 just didnt know if it was safe to do so. I bet 1.5 runs smooth. Thanks.
Quadrant is nothing of a benchmark, the hummingbird kernel isn't even read correctly. On the CM7 forum I've mentioned this before. Basing everything off a quadrant score is complete in the redundant theory, try using a real benchmark, suggestion.
Smartbench> quadrant
Sent from I'm sure glad Danger went under, else I'd still be on a Mr.Cartoon SK2.
As stated above. Don't put to much into scores. Judge by real world feel. I can show you a Rom that scores almost 3000 on quadrant but runs like crap. Trust your judgement. As for overclocking, it is device dependent. My cap couldn't handle anything over 1.3.
And yes all this has been stated before. A search would have saved you some time.
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[Q] Infuse 4g Performance Issue?

I've recently tried the Quadrant Standard Benchmark and noticed that my phone's score is severely lower than that of other reviewer's benchmarks? I usually score between 960-1060. Any Idea why I'm not getting into the 1100s? Even my brother's Infuse reached 1300.
Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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To be honest, if you're not noticing any lag then all should be fine. I recommend running a custom ROM. pretty much all the infuse roms convert your system to ext4 which is much faster than stock. If you need help with anything don't hesitate to ask, but in the right forum
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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.
diablo009 said:
Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.
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apps running in the background can consume resources and affect the score. also rogers roms tend to score lower. it was that way on the captivate too. btw what's a build.xml? do you mean build.prop?
and to the op your score is in line with what you can expect. if you dont have any specific issues i wouldnt worry about it. quadrant is soo sensitive to atleast 2 areas (encoding/decoding media and file system reads) but not others that you can take an infuse to 4200 but it isnt gonna do too much that it didnt do before.
theROMinator said:
Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
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They really don't!! Neither does Antutu or Linpack.. Gives you a different number every time LOL!! But Definitely look at some of the other roms out there! The few dev's we have left need all the support we can give them!! THANKS INFUSE DEV's!!!!

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