I come from an HTC Aria and I remember back in the Aria forums that people said that overclocking your device could fry your processor. The Aria comes packed with a 600mhz processor and it could overclock up to 800 mhz. Now on the Inspire forum I read posts from people who overclocks their phones up to 1.6ghz and apparently nothing happens. That's 60% more than what it is meant to run. I can't help to wonder:
1- Is it really that risky?
2- What's a safe speed to run my Inspire at?
I came from an Aria too. I have yet to find an app that needs more tha about 900MHz. I run mine at 883.200 just to save on battery. It's fun to jack it up to 1.804800GHz and get a quadrant screen capture(1), but I don't see any practical use for that much OC on a phone. As far as damage, I think you'll see erratic operation before you do any permanent damage.
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Mine is usually set with setcpu at 1305 using the smartass2 governor.
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I kept mine at 1.2 most of the time. I even took it up to 2ghz just to see what it was like
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OC is all dependent on the device. Some devices can handle it and some cant, best bet is to try it on yours and find where it can be OC to. Not all phones are made equale.
Gene Poole said:
I came from an Aria too. I have yet to find an app that needs more tha about 900MHz. I run mine at 883.200 just to save on battery. It's fun to jack it up to 1.804800GHz and get a quadrant screen capture(1), but I don't see any practical use for that much OC on a phone. As far as damage, I think you'll see erratic operation before you do any permanent damage.
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Hey Gene! Good to see you. Im afraid my phone would overheat. Whats a safe temperature for the phone? It is between 26 and 33 degress (celsius) isnt it? By the way Im using VU so my phone is running at 1.2ghz by default
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Any time you operate anything beyond its designed specifications/limits you are risking damage. This is whether it's a phone, computer, car, boat, or aircraft.
Most things are over-engineered to a certain extent, but there is not really much of a way to know whether their artificial limits are 10% below or 50% below their actual limit. It's the difference between an operating limit and a design or structural limit.
Now the good news for most computer type things is that they usually have some kind of safety built in. I remember seeing a video many years ago of a computer running without the CPU fan and heat sink. It ran for a little while, got too hot, and shut itself down. The guy put the heat sink and fan back on and it fired right up.
Short term you probably won't notice too much "damage," just a little instability if you get it up too high, but the servicable life of the components will be drastically reduced. This is probably not too big a deal on something people usually replace every 12 to 18 months.
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I came from the Aria as well; this phone doesn't react to overclocking as poorly as the Aria did, so you're pretty much good to go.
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Brad, tribestos and the rest of you. Thank you very much for the answers. You really cleared it up for me
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I'm running RCMix Bliss v1.3 w/Sense 3.5 on my Inspire. I'd like to overclock it and O/C Daemon has gotten good reviews. Where can I download it?
Tanx
I'm a dummy I found Daemon Controler!! I've installed it on my Inspire but it won't let me apply the settings. The "APPLY" button is GRAY. What is the problem??
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1) SetCPU profile to 1000Mhz = temp > 43C
2) Tegrak overclock
a) load module
b) load 1100Mhz
c) Save profile in SetCPU
(REPEAT PROCESS With 1200Mhz, 1300Mhz)
Please use Set CPU and make sure to add profiles.
800 Mhz = temp > 45C (audible alarm)
1000 Mhz = temp > 43C
1100 Mhz = temp > 40C
1200 Mhz = temp > 35C
1300 Mhz = temp > 30C
My FLOPS in the stress test went from 12 to 16
Now I am able to watch Jimmy Fallon Live and probably Jersey Shore
Those Adobe Flash videos were too heavy for my 1000 Mhz processor
with 1200 Mhz, I'm happy to say the video runs nice.
a few FPS drops here and there, but hey, it's 100 watchable now
rafarataneneces said:
I've read that a program called tegrak overclock can allow you to overclock, but from what I know unless you have an overclocked kernel, you can't overclock
I would like to know if there is a future with this phone.
Currently there are only 2 ROMs working (one of them, the author closed the thread)
I've spent at least one month fixing all the issues of this phone, and by the looks of it it's not quite popular here in USA
I will appreciate responses, since I know that overclocking can give a HUGE boost of speed.
I am thinking in returning my phone and hopefully getting the LG 2GX (Optimus 2X)
Has anybody overclocked their Samsung Galaxy S 4G?
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In the defence of the person who built the ROM your talking about, he did not close the thread... a moderator did.
overclocking is currently not an option for this device and only time will tell if it will be.
as for ROMs, Krylon360 of Team Whiskey will be developing more ROMs soon as he is waiting on getting a device to work with.
the LG looks to be a good device... has many features that are better than the sgs4g so i would think its a decent switch. but for me im waiting for july... the HTC and sgsII will be be out by that time and I can choose the cream of the crop.
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In the defence of the person who built the ROM your talking about, he did not close the thread... a moderator did.
overclocking is currently not an option for this device and only time will tell if it will be.
as for ROMs, Krylon360 of Team Whiskey will be developing more ROMs soon as he is waiting on getting a device to work with.
the LG looks to be a good device... has many features that are better than the sgs4g so i would think its a decent switch. but for me im waiting for july... the HTC and sgsII will be be out by that time and I can choose the cream of the crop.
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Any idea when it will be released?
And what price it will have?
If the phone costs around $600, I would buy it
Anything over it I'd guess it's overpriced.
the one thing that I DO NOT LIKE about the Galaxy S 4G is the lack of Flash for the camera
I'd say for a $500 device adding a $10 flash somewhere in the phone would be a good idea
worked great..quadrant score went up also..seems alot faster..thanks alot! this shouldnt do no harm to the phone right? im new to this kind of stuff so kinda nervous.
zmaroman said:
worked great..quadrant score went up also..seems alot faster..thanks alot! this shouldnt do no harm to the phone right? im new to this kind of stuff so kinda nervous.
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What kind of scores?
Let us know how this works for you.
If your phone starts getting hot pull the battery.
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phone went from 966 to 1212 on the quadrant score with a stock rom.
Works great getting scores around 12300 on quadrent using shadowman's v2.2
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i just flashed mine to v2.2 and did the quardrant score and it went down .. did i do something wrong? did u delete the bloatware? running anything else?
As long as u watch out for the temperatures you should be fine
Even if I break the unit I still have warranty on this
Plus I'll be returning this phone anyway
I'll test Quadrant right now
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Works great getting scores around 12300 on quadrent using shadowman's v2.2
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I get 1224 on Quadrant
I assume u got 1230
Sorry, I get around 1230.. To many 0's
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rafarataneneces said:
1) SetCPU profile to 1000Mhz = temp > 43C
2) Tegrak overclock
a) load module
b) load 1100Mhz
c) Save profile in SetCPU
(REPEAT PROCESS With 1200Mhz, 1300Mhz)
Please use Set CPU and make sure to add profiles.
800 Mhz = temp > 45C (audible alarm)
1000 Mhz = temp > 43C
1100 Mhz = temp > 40C
1200 Mhz = temp > 35C
1300 Mhz = temp > 30C
My FLOPS in the stress test went from 12 to 16
Now I am able to watch Jimmy Fallon Live and probably Jersey Shore
Those Adobe Flash videos were too heavy for my 1000 Mhz processor
with 1200 Mhz, I'm happy to say the video runs nice.
a few FPS drops here and there, but hey, it's 100 watchable now
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When setting Profiles,
Do you have all of them default to "Charging"?
For scaling do you have them default to "Conservative"?
Do you leave all the Min at default 100000?
Do you leave all the priorities set at default 50?
This wont work due to there is no kernel that allows OC yet for the SGS4G. Ill work on building one after i get CWM and Black Ice going for the device.
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krylon360 said:
This wont work due to there is no kernel that allows OC yet for the SGS4G. Ill work on building one after i get CWM and Black Ice going for the device
Will black ice be running on ext4?
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This wont work due to there is no kernel that allows OC yet for the SGS4G. Ill work on building one after i get CWM and Black Ice going for the device.
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It seems to work and it's also listed as supported on the list of devices in the market. I've only used Quadrant standard so far and was getting higher benchmarks.
On another note. Can't wait to get my TW fix when you get Black Ice working on our phones.
Can you upload the presets so I can just load it please ans thanks
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A few comments.
1) Some SG4G's don't like 1.3 gig. I'm finding that at 1.2 gig at a high and 200 meg at the low, it's the most stable...at least for my particular unit. Your mileage may vary.
2) I'm using the "Temp >" profiles for all the settings.
3) I suspect that the reason for why it's wonky for some and works great for others is due to the fact that there isn't a true overclock kernel for it. We're taking potluck as to whether it works or not.
-Steve
I would take a word of advice from Krylon. The Kernel that is on our phones is not set up for this to work correctly. The app may support our phone but, our kernel doesn't yet.
I wouldn't recommend doing this. Wait for a compatible Kernel. It will happen but when your phone gets hotter than it was meant to, things on the mother board get loose and you have a very expensive paper weight.
Secondly, quad scores aren't that accurate. Meaning a single piece of code can tell the quadrant app to read higher than its actually running. The phone may run a little faster but its not what it will be with VooDoo lagfix.
This phone should get a true quad score in the mid 900's stock. With the right kernel, and voodoo lag fix (ext4) this phone should get around 1750-1850. That is without overclocking at all. it will have better battery and you won't overheat your phone .
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Secondly, quad scores aren't that accurate. Meaning a single piece of code can tell the quadrant app to read higher than its actually running. The phone may run a little faster but its not what it will be with VooDoo lagfix.
This phone should get a true quad score in the mid 900's stock. With the right kernel, and voodoo lag fix (ext4) this phone should get around 1750-1850. That is without overclocking at all. it will have better battery and you won't overheat your phone .
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I thought that Voodoo lagfix wasn't applicable in the SG4G because of the fact that the SG4G doesn't use an abnormal file structure. Or am I wrong?
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I thought that Voodoo lagfix wasn't applicable in the SG4G because of the fact that the SG4G doesn't use an abnormal file structure. Or am I wrong?
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I think the only real speed difference is with the browser. My vibrant / and sgs 4g get similar quad scores when the vibrant has voodoo disabled.
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Why does overclocking freeze my phone?
I don't get it...
Post like a newb. Mod like a dev.
How high are you oc'd? Some phones just don't like oc period. Might of got screwed on luck of the draw. My mytouch 3g slide was like that. Most people could run at 800Mhz stable, if I tried it froze instantly.
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Make sure you're slowly raising the amount your processor is running at. e.g go from 1 to 1.1 to 1.2 to 1.3 and so on. Don't go to 1.5 immediately.
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How high are you oc'd? Some phones just don't like oc period. Might of got screwed on luck of the draw. My mytouch 3g slide was like that. Most people could run at 800Mhz stable, if I tried it froze instantly.
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Went to 1.3. didnt freeze immediately but it did on camera and phone dialer and such.
Ill try a slight overclock and work my way up.
Im using tegrak and setcpu in concert. Could that be the issue?
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Absolutely!! Never use two oc programs. They just conflict with eachother. Why use two??? They do the same thing??
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i use both.i use setcpu for profile options. never had a problem using both.
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What I am wondering and before you attack me I did research this and couldn't find anything specific to the Inspire. I want to know generally what is a good speed to underclock the inspire to achieve maximum batter and before you say every device is different I'm asking for a general idea not a specific one. Also do you think that overclocking has a big impact on batter I am overclocking right now at 1.3 ghz do you think that I'll notice a difference. And I know I have to test it myself but I just want others opinion on it.
I have the same question.
FWIW, I run the OnDemand Governor and underclock at 883200 (245000 min) and don't notice a slowdown in any apps I run except angry birds (I ramp it up to 1.2 to play that). I haven't run any benchmarks or anything to see how it might improve the battery, since I really don't need to worry about it. It goes on the charger every night and I've never seen it below 50% when I plug it in.
I've been running a relatively stock DesireHD Gingerbread ROM based on the Asian WWE GB (2.37.707.3) but as of yesterday, I've been running one based on the telus GB released a few days ago (2.43.661.1). My kernel is custom based on stock HTC source for the 2.6.35.10 with OC/UV support added as hacked from the LeeDroid kernel tree. My source is here:
https://github.com/hoxsiew/ace-2.6.35-gb-mr
King Askaba said:
I want to know generally what is a good speed to underclock the inspire to achieve maximum batter and before you say every device is different I'm asking for a general idea not a specific one. Also do you think that overclocking has a big impact on batter I am overclocking right now at 1.3 ghz do you think that I'll notice a difference. And I know I have to test it myself but I just want others opinion on it.
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I'm running at my rom's default (1017mhz). Instead of underclocking, I use the conservative governor. Battery life is good, but I also haven't noticed a battery drain when overclocking (I've been up to 1228mhz). I didn't test/run it for an extended period of time (1 day), but I only noticed a slight bump in performance.
I've heard of people on my rom (GingerBeast), clocking down to 768mhz without noticeable slowdown. As you stated, it just depends on the rom.
I have my phone set at:
Max: 768000
Min: 230000
This works for me in literally all the situations.
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I have my phone set at:
Max: 768000
Min: 230000
This works for me in literally all the situations.
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just about default GingerBeast.
But what cpu scaling is best for balance of battery life and performance
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King Askaba said:
But what cpu scaling is best for balance of battery life and performance
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No one but you can figure that out.
Yea I know but id like to know what works best fire others
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Pretty sad uve gotta worry bout people jumping down ur throat when u ask a question. I see it on here alot, thats why i dont ask.
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Thank you its like they either yell at you to search or they give you all devices are different you have to try it. I'm not looking for a definitive answer I just wanted an idea of what has worked for them. Seriously this forum has some rude people exspecially that Scott guy hasn't helped me once just tells me to search I said I searched and he says its on google but when I bring up the page nothing. This forum would be 1000x better if people didn't have a stick up their asses everytime someone asked a question.
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This forum would be 1000x better if people didn't have a stick up their asses everytime someone asked a question.
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+1
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I hope my response wasn't considered rude, but the question really is too vague to answer. If there were some magic combination of OC/UV that worked for everyone, everyone would be using it.
They say that if you ask five New Yorkers their stance on an issue, you'll get six different opinions. Similarly, five smart phone users probably have six different opinions about the best setup for their device and none will be applicable to your situation.
Yea but I wasn't asking for the perfect combination out just wanted to know what others use to get an idea of what I should set it at but clearly you don't get that
even though I've said it three times
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Does anyone know the dangers of running the inspire OC'd on a regular basis up in the 1500000 range?
I've personally never have run into any issues, besides maybe shorter battery life.
I keep a profile in SetCPU for the temp if it gets over a certain temp. Don't have my phone with me so I couldn't tell you. But it seems fine overall.
That is one of my concerns. With the DAEMON setup on TB Fusion and some other newer roms there is no provision for a temp profile. Simply 6 files to change the settings in as far as I know.
Not sure and I have not read about possible cpu damage running it at say 1.5 or 1.7 for long perios of time. Even though it will still throttle back so to say by means of the chosen governor.
A question for someone with more experience than I!
SNadler said:
That is one of my concerns. With the DAEMON setup on TB Fusion and some other newer roms there is no provision for a temp profile. Simply 6 files to change the settings in as far as I know.
Not sure and I have not read about possible cpu damage running it at say 1.5 or 1.7 for long perios of time. Even though it will still throttle back so to say by means of the chosen governor.
A question for someone with more experience than I!
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If you are worried about that, the DAEMON setup gets disabled if you run setcpu or something else like that.
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If you are worried about that, the DAEMON setup gets disabled if you run setcpu or something else like that.
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Understood, I do want the increased performance tough.
I mostly want to know if there is any data showing that OC will do permanant damage to the device if used in that manner for extended period of time.
i dont know about overclocking phones but i assume the answer would be similiar to overclocking computers...
the answer is it does shorten the lifespan of the chip, but we are talking about minor differences over time - for example: instead of your chip lasting for 25 years it may last for 20. HOWEVER are you really going to be using your phone for that long?
So the short answer is no. This is assuming you are overclocked to a stable setting. If it is unstable then the setting is way too high/hot - you wouldnt be able to use it long enough to damage it (assuming you dont keep trying)
I ran my Inspire at 1.5x ghz for a couple of days, but I got random complete lock ups (had to pull the battery) and fc's. Slowed it back to 1.26 ghz and the issues went away.
Also, the temp never got very high, so it was not an overheating issue IMO.
Hi,
I'm quite new to Android and forum, but within 15minutes I S-offed and rooted my phone. I still don't know how to overclock the desire s. I used "search" but I found nothing. Could anyone help me and either write me an intruction what to do step-by-step or provide me with appropriate topic? I'll be greatful!
TheLittleNick said:
Hi,
I'm quite new to Android and forum, but within 15minutes I S-offed and rooted my phone. I still don't know how to overclock the desire s. I used "search" but I found nothing. Could anyone help me and either write me an intruction what to do step-by-step or provide me with appropriate topic? I'll be greatful!
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You'll need a combination of a custom KERNEL (that supports O/C) and a custom ROM (some come with an O/C daemon built in)
time for some reading.
Ok, so one more question just in case. May I use any ROM with any kernel or I have to match ROM to kernel (or opposite)?
Generally I would say custom roms come with the most suitable kernel.
The easiest way to overclock is to simply download an app from the market that will o/c your cpu.
Peace
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If your new to all this are you really sure you want to start overclocking?
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ben_pyett said:
You'll need a combination of a custom KERNEL (that supports O/C) and a custom ROM (some come with an O/C daemon built in)
time for some reading.
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Although I'd also as that unless you'r e intending on playing games then the desire s should be fast enough without over clocking as ultimately that will reduce battery life.even the sense 3 rooms when configured and optimised correctly don't lag at normal operating speeds
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You're still on stock ROM right?
If so, install this kernel from recovery and SetCPU once done. OC away.
If i want to overclock my desire s, does it effect my phone?
nartz said:
If i want to overclock my desire s, does it effect my phone?
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Yes, it would go a little faster
Seriously tho, it might run a little hotter, for a shorter length of time, and be slightly less stable - all depending on how much you overclock it, what settings you use, etc.
Try downloading an app from the market that will overclock your cpu and see what happens.
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And NEVER max the oc setting. Some kernels allow up to 1.7ghz but your phone would be fried in a week and be incredibly unstable. Can't recommend going past 1.2ghz if you want your phone to last til your next upgrade date. For the most part though, oc is unnecessary on this phone.
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wnp_79 said:
For the most part though, oc is unnecessary on this phone.
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Gotta agree there. Stock CPU settings are more than adequate for any use.
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chris5s said:
Yes, it would go a little faster
Seriously tho, it might run a little hotter, for a shorter length of time, and be slightly less stable - all depending on how much you overclock it, what settings you use, etc.
Try downloading an app from the market that will overclock your cpu and see what happens.
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I just read somewhere in other forum, if I overclock my phone, I will have problem on my phone.
Maybe because of the cpu overheat or what?
Basically, yes.
Why not use the phone as it is, and see how you like it? If you do decide to overclock, do it in small increments. Honestly, I find it fast enough at normal speeds, playing games, browsing, etc.
Peace
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chris5s said:
Basically, yes.
Why not use the phone as it is, and see how you like it? If you do decide to overclock, do it in small increments. Honestly, I find it fast enough at normal speeds, playing games, browsing, etc.
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+1 to you. 1Ghz already fast enough. No lagging at all like some other phone.
v(^_^)
I was quite interested in this overclocking buisness. I overcloked my phne to 1.7ghz, used it for a while and it froze twice, requiring a reboot.
There was definitely a speed incresas, but 1ghz on lbc mod is already plenty smooth!
Now I've set up setcpu profiles to have myphone only overclocked at 1.2ghz when its chargingand I'm using it. But also a profile to limit the temp at 41degrees to 825-245mhz.
But when its unplugged, u have left it on default at 1024-245mhz on demand. Great battery life compromised with great speed.
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Maybe you'll need a voltage bump at 1.7GHz. But even if it's stable, it will definitely be hotter. Not good for long term.
1.1-1.2GHz should be stable for daily use.