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How NOT to separate the LCD and digitizer!

The very thin outer layer of my digitizer peeled off in one spot and my touchscreen stopped working, so I bought a new digitizer on ebay. Then I took apart my phone and got down to the LCD/digitizer, which are glued together. I tried to pull them apart and the LCD split apart, leaving one half firmly glued to the digitizer. Following are pics showing the broken apart LCD/digitizer below the new one, and a close up of one half of the LCD. The rainbow sheen is the oily liquid crystal of the LCD.
If you have to replace the LCD or the digitizer, I highly recommend buying the combo already glued together. Unless you already know how to separate them, you're gonna fail. After breaking mine I went back to ebay and found a LCD/digitizer combo for very cheap - $20. http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LCD-Display-Screen-Digitizer-Touch_W0QQitemZ270457207798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 I hope it's not a mistake, and only the digitizer, but I figured I'd risk it for $20. Also, the seller has positive feedback for this same auction. I'll find out in a week or two; shipping from Hong Kong was very slow for my first digitizer.
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Ouch,
That must have send some nasty shivers down your spine when that happened.
Hope you get a full combo for that price (which is amazingly cheap).
Good luck with the repairs,
EqX

Yeah, I hope it goes well too. Keep us posted on how it all goes, my digitizer is starting to have some lifting problems too so I would love any feedback on the process.

I had the same problem....but I have bought digitizer and lcd at once, and succsesfuly replaced them, actualy, when disasembling the htc, i have cut the speeker wire...., and after that i have order new speeker...
Anyway, now it is working better than when bought.
P.S., the LCD you have found, seller is the same...I bought from him also, (when you replace the part, you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before....)
bye.

gruya011 said:
I had the same problem....but I have bought digitizer and lcd at once, and succsesfuly replaced them,.....
P.S., the LCD you have found, seller is the same...I bought from him also, (when you replace the part, you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before....)
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What do you mean "you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before..."? Does it mean better contrast or worse?

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And, so how SHOULD WE separate them?? Somebody please explain if you have any tips. I also got a new LCD top panel. I really don't want to get a similar result to this!

I got the LCD kit http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LC...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 and it does, indeed, include the LCD and digitizer. For only $20! Not only that, but it also includes a new front body piece and the LCD/digitizer are already installed. This is quite a relief because I was not looking forward to figuring out how to re-glue the new ones in the old body and have it not come out crappy. I have no idea how they can sell this item and profit.
I've posted a pic of the item's front, back, and finished install. I notice no difference in contrast whatsoever from the original screen. It's possible these really are OEM parts that somehow walked off the factory assembly line. I couldn't discern any differences from the original parts in a close inspection, and usually you can see minor differences in cheap copies.
To install, you just have to move the earpiece, buttons (power, volume rocker, PTT), flex circuit wiring harness, and hard buttons over to the new part, then reassemble reverse from the disassembly.
Overall I'm quite satisfied. The only negative is that there was no protective plastic layer over the screen, only plastic shrink wrap around the entire unit, and because of that there are some tiny scratches on the screen as seen in the last pic (there is no dust/hair on the screen, those are scratches.) It's really not as bad as the pic makes it look. You can't even see the scratches unless you hold the phone so that light reflects off in just the right manner, and when greasy from fingerprints, you can't see them at all. It might be possible to buff them out, but I'm totally satisfied with the results as is.
gruya011 said:
I had the same problem....but I have bought digitizer and lcd at once, and succsesfuly replaced them, actualy, when disasembling the htc, i have cut the speeker wire...., and after that i have order new speeker...
Anyway, now it is working better than when bought.
P.S., the LCD you have found, seller is the same...I bought from him also, (when you replace the part, you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before....)
bye.
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I broke my speaker wires, as well! On the first reassembly I forgot to replug the connector, and when I snapped the phone together one wire somehow broke. While trying to repair, I broke the other speaker wire and ended up running over the connector with my office shair. To fix I bought some 30g magnet wire (very thin stuff) and soldered to pieces of wire from the speaker terminals straight to the two spots just in front of the connector, which I correctly guessed were test points or something on the speaker traces.

Touchscreen not working help!

I dropped my phone in light water and the touchscreen hasn't been working will replacing it fix it
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sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I dropped my phone in light water and the touchscreen hasn't been working will replacing it fix it
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possibly. might even need to dry out. put it in a bag of dried rice and ziplock it in there for about 2 days. make sure all the covers are off that u can take off. if you are sure its dried, it could be the display, could be the digitizer, the controllers. its like diagnosing a car, cant do that over the phone.

Darunion said:
possibly. might even need to dry out. put it in a bag of dried rice and ziplock it in there for about 2 days. make sure all the covers are off that u can take off. if you are sure its dried, it could be the display, could be the digitizer, the controllers. its like diagnosing a car, cant do that over the phone.
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Should I risk fixing it?
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It is impossible to say if it is worth the risk. As Darunion said the phone may dry out on its own. And it may not. It may just be the Digitizer and it could be other items. Problems could arise weeks and even months down the road. That is why it is a big deal not to get your phone wet.
Personally if it was my phone, it would sit in a bag of rice on a warm window sill for at least a week before I would even think of putting that battery back in. Any condensation on the boards and you put the battery back in and electonic components can fry.
And even then it would be trial and error getting it fixed. Hopefully it might be the digitizer then. But what if it isn't?

This happened 2 days ago and it was taken out this afternoon it turns on fine but touch doesn't work
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agreed, you could be causing additional damage to the phone. its likely not dried out. just because you can turn it on doesnt mean you should. i would still use the mentioned drying technique and then try it again later. other than that, we cant troubleshoot this problem over the internet. this isnt meant as an insult, but if you arent sure you can fix it, likely you wont. Not much we can do for you other than what we said to try for drying it out. sorry, that really sucks

I used to repair iPhones is the inspire similar to it?
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Swapping the digitizer on the iPhone 3G/3Gs was incredibly simple: two screws and two cables and the whole digi+LCD was out. On the iPhone 4/4S it's considerably more involved. It seems like the Inspire 4G falls somewhere in between... not as simple as 3G, but probably easier than 4. Check YouTube; I'm sure there are video guides.
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I guess I'm not completely convinced my phone is dead here...might be hanging onto a thread though.. But I thought I'd ask you guys to see if anyone has any input..
As stated previously, after replacing my digitizer I had my phone back to an operable state, but there were some spots that the digitizer wasn't working, so I took it apart one more time to make sure the small ribbon cable connecting the digitizer to the LCD had a tight connection. When I put everything back together, I got no display - only backlight. I've taken it apart 6 or 7 times since then and can't see anything that doesn't look right. When I unplug the cable from the LCD to the board, I don't even get a backlight. When I connect that cable, I get backlight but no display. The phone is booting and the digitizer seems to be responsive after booting, but no display. Is there something else I should be looking at? Obviously the cable from the LCD to the board gives the LCD power, but what controls the picture to the LCD?

The cable coming out the side of the LCD has connections for the picture, the backlight, and for the digitizer too (since the digitizer is connected to the LCD and then the LCD transfers the signal to the motherboard).
I repaired quite a few phones where the digitizer did not function correctly or only partially and it turned out to be the cable on the LCD as the issue. If you are doing the work yourself and you have a few extra dollars to spend then buy the lcd and digitizer already assembled. Something like this. Much easier.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display...923565?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c6202fb2d
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It is a pain in the butt removing all the adhesive between the LCD and Digitizer and then you also have to have the correct double sided tape to reassemble the 2. Also trying to pry the 2 apart can damage the LCD very easily. Installing the LCD and Digitizer as one unit is much easier and much faster. Plus it gives a better fit. I have seen quite a few phones where the digitizer was replaced by itself and it was not properly attached with the correct adhesive tape. The glass was sticking up above the outside frame of the phone.

Yea that's what I should have done in the first place. It was a pain in the butt trying to get the Screen/Dig off of the LCD, and the LCD off of the frame. And now they're not back on anywhere near as well, the screen kind of falls off sometimes. I don't know if I'm gonna spend anymore money trying to fix this thing. I want a Vivid anyway

Darunion said:
possibly. might even need to dry out. put it in a bag of dried rice and ziplock it in there for about 2 days. make sure all the covers are off that u can take off. if you are sure its dried, it could be the display, could be the digitizer, the controllers. its like diagnosing a car, cant do that over the phone.
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Its been forever ago, but I dropped my blackberry bold in the toilet...I totally freaked out but my bf showed me the rice trick...I was amazed it worked the next day.
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Replacing cracked screen

So I just got the S3 like 2 days ago.. i told myself i wouldnt really take it out the house til I got some protection for it but figured hanging around the house with it wouldnt be bad .. I ordered a rubber skin for it 2 days ago and waiting for it in shipping. Cousin comes over today for a quick visit today than leaves. I took the phone outside with me in my pocket, not thinking about the jersey shorts I was wearing (really slick material) I crouch to pet my dog and it slides out my pocket and hits the ground.. just a bit of the bottom right corner screen is cracked, i think it wouldnt be too noticeable with the case (once that arrives) but it is annoying to have this done to a new phone. I see they have replacement screens on ebay, so Im thinking of just ordering one there. Irony was that I was just telling my cousin he should get a case for his iphone for these very incidents.
My S3 is pebble blue, so this gives me the chance to convert it to white if I want huh. Ive done stuff before like taking my zune mp3 player apart to swap a bigger battery in it, and always mess with computers (modded my laptop). Question is how difficult will it be to swap the screen plate?
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More expensive than difficult
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Ouch Idk if you can just remove the front panel but you might need to mess with the lcd panel. I would look up a video on youtube.

If it is functional I would say wait. The more use you get out of it, the more other parts of the screen will get stressed, could break. The later you replace it, the better the value for you. Again, only if it works and you aren't too annoyed at the appearance. If you do go for it, maybe this might help:

Thanks for the replies, I am researching it now.. I could probably live with it, once the rubber case is here It would cover up the edges of it and it doesnt go into the actual screen too much. But it is annoying ,
But i see alot of replacement glass on ebay that dont have the lcd screen with it , I wonder how the heck are they selling those if from what Im reading its all one piece with the lcd and touchpad.

hypertek said:
Thanks for the replies, I am researching it now.. I could probably live with it, once the rubber case is here It would cover up the edges of it and it doesnt go into the actual screen too much. But it is annoying ,
But i see alot of replacement glass on ebay that dont have the lcd screen with it , I wonder how the heck are they selling those if from what Im reading its all one piece with the lcd and touchpad.
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I have yet to see anyone.. ANYONE replace just the screen... I have the same problem... but sammy said it would cost me 178 for them to fix...my phone is now in claims status

hypertek said:
Thanks for the replies, I am researching it now.. I could probably live with it, once the rubber case is here It would cover up the edges of it and it doesnt go into the actual screen too much. But it is annoying ,
But i see alot of replacement glass on ebay that dont have the lcd screen with it , I wonder how the heck are they selling those if from what Im reading its all one piece with the lcd and touchpad.
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They probably mold it themselves. cheap knock off's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5IPaCPaY_0
his vid really makes it look possible since when he got the glass/digitizer off, the screen was separate , but i cant tell if the lcd got damaged when he took the digitizer off since he used a screwdriver and didnt put much care into it since he said was already broken.

hypertek said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5IPaCPaY_0
his vid really makes it look possible since when he got the glass/digitizer off, the screen was separate , but i cant tell if the lcd got damaged when he took the digitizer off .
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That looks so sketchy and unprofessional. It scares me.

i know the phone is fairly new so replacing just the glass/digitizer seems like no one on the net has experience documented replacing just that.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Touch-S...954?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4169ade3c2

Broken Screen, Need help knowing what to replace.

The glass part of my screen broke recently but it kept functioning, I could still use it like nothing was wrong. Then earlier today my screen went black but I can still feel the haptic feedback when pressing the menu and other buttons. I would just like to know, do I have to buy the digitizer along with the screen, just the screen or just the LCD. Thanks in advance.

Search replacing screen i727 xda. It's been discussed before. From what I remember you need to replace the screen and digitizer. It's next to impossible to separate the two.
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jd1639 said:
Search replacing screen i727 xda. It's been discussed before. From what I remember you need to replace the screen and digitizer. It's next to impossible to separate the two.
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Thanks for the help

thefief said:
Thanks for the help
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You're welcome
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thefief said:
The glass part of my screen broke recently but it kept functioning, I could still use it like nothing was wrong. Then earlier today my screen went black but I can still feel the haptic feedback when pressing the menu and other buttons. I would just like to know, do I have to buy the digitizer along with the screen, just the screen or just the LCD. Thanks in advance.
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After changing a bunch of screens for both apple and android....I would always recommend buying the complete LCD & digitizer screen replacement referred to as a screen assembly....if not it involves heat guns lots of glue that is not ment to unstick and so forth..... Most devices including the i727 make changing the screen assembly easy...
There are plenty of sites out there to show you step by step for most devices such as ifixit its my go to...for many devices and they have parts also. YouTube is another treasure trove.
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Fixing screen
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I had just gotten my Skyrocket setup exactly like I wanted it and then it slipped off the seat of the car and I stepped on it. You have to replace the entire screen/digitizer assembly. There are some good you tubes on how to do that. I'll let you in on a "what not to do". I inadvertently severed the cable to the lighted buttons. No prob its an $8.00 fix. I put the new screen back in the phone, which is held by double sided tape so it wouldn't hurt to order some also. When the new cable came I looked at the phone and thought the hole at the top of the screen would be good leverage to remove the screen as I had scraped off most of the old adhesive. That was a mistake and almost a huge mistake. I cracked the new screen when I pulled on that opening on the new screen. I was just about to throw it in the trash and thought that I had the screen cable readily accessible I should plug it in. It worked perfectly- the digitizer doesn't go up that far and my case protector covers 95% of the broken screen area. It has worked perfectly since before Embryo 5. One of these days I'll get around to replacing the screen with a new one but not today. Have a pix attached.
thefief said:
The glass part of my screen broke recently but it kept functioning, I could still use it like nothing was wrong. Then earlier today my screen went black but I can still feel the haptic feedback when pressing the menu and other buttons. I would just like to know, do I have to buy the digitizer along with the screen, just the screen or just the LCD. Thanks in advance.
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thefief said:
The glass part of my screen broke recently but it kept functioning, I could still use it like nothing was wrong. Then earlier today my screen went black but I can still feel the haptic feedback when pressing the menu and other buttons. I would just like to know, do I have to buy the digitizer along with the screen, just the screen or just the LCD. Thanks in advance.
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I broke my screen and replaced it for $150 off ebay. Just buy the LCD, it comes with the digitizer and faceplate, everything you need. You can't just separate the two and do it yourself for cheap, you'll ruin it. Took me no more than 10 minutes from start to finish. I recommend getting something to pry open your phone (the kits are like $2) because if you use anything like a flathead or what not, you'll scratch and chip the edges. Nails work but it's frustrating and you might put too much force trying to pry it and snap a clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf6jqYejWNU (try to ignore his coke nail)
This video is what I used to make sure there weren't any cables I had to worry about when opening it. 7 screws, some patience prying it apart and your phone is open. The rest is just swapping out the internals to your new screen. It's really simple. Not worth sending it off for $200+ and being without your phone for a week just to keep your warranty. It's probably up or almost up anyway and you still have a nice, new-looking phone to sell when you're done with it.
Plus you get the satisfaction of fixing your phone yourself.

Broken outer glass

2 days ago I dropped my phone and outer glass is broken. (from bottom left part) I went to service provider they said we can repair it for 450 Turkish Liras (208 US dollars)
If I buy this (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/for-...-Glass-Lens-Outer-Touch-Glass/1897497974.html) and replace myself will it be okay? and these are the picture from my nexus 5. (sorry for bad quality)
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If you know what you're doing sure why not you will probably save tons of money

Everything is fused together.. Replacing "just the glass" will be next to impossible without the required tools. Besides that, the crack has hardly breached the display area.. if I were you, I would just ignore it and move on.

Yeah I watched the videos about dissambling, you need to disassemble almost everything to replace the glass. I've some friends who capable to do that fortunately. There is a crack on the display area it's really thin and I can see it from a certain angle.
I won't rush to replace it but if the glass in the link is enough, I won't give my money to service provider. This was all I need to know. Thx guys.

koolthing said:
Yeah I watched the videos about dissambling, you need to disassemble almost everything to replace the glass. I've some friends who capable to do that fortunately. There is a crack on the display area it's really thin and I can see it from a certain angle.
I won't rush to replace it but if the glass in the link is enough, I won't give my money to service provider. This was all I need to know. Thx guys.
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The glass is bonded to the digitizer, even if you manage to separate it using heat, you have a huge chance of breaking the digitizer in the process. If done successfully you still have to use loca glue cured with a uv light to attach the new glass to the digitizer. This needs to be done with zero bubbles or defects or the touch won't work. Even if the loca is applied and the touch works and you don't ruin other components with the glue, it still won't be 100 percent perfect. Don't waste your time. Just pay to have it replaced imo. Or buy the digitizer, glass, and bezel assembly and just swap out the internals it'll be much easier. Unfortunately that assembly is 150 dollars, might as well pay the extra 50 and have lg or a repair shop do it for you and warranty their work.

Lokke9191 said:
The glass is bonded to the digitizer, even if you manage to separate it using heat, you have a huge chance of breaking the digitizer in the process. If done successfully you still have to use loca glue cured with a uv light to attach the new glass to the digitizer. This needs to be done with zero bubbles or defects or the touch won't work. Even if the loca is applied and the touch works and you don't ruin other components with the glue, it still won't be 100 percent perfect. Don't waste your time. Just pay to have it replaced imo. Or buy the digitizer, glass, and bezel assembly and just swap out the internals it'll be much easier. Unfortunately that assembly is 150 dollars, might as well pay the extra 50 and have lg or a repair shop do it for you and warranty their work.
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Precisely this. Well said.

Lokke9191 said:
The glass is bonded to the digitizer, even if you manage to separate it using heat, you have a huge chance of breaking the digitizer in the process. If done successfully you still have to use loca glue cured with a uv light to attach the new glass to the digitizer. This needs to be done with zero bubbles or defects or the touch won't work. Even if the loca is applied and the touch works and you don't ruin other components with the glue, it still won't be 100 percent perfect. Don't waste your time. Just pay to have it replaced imo. Or buy the digitizer, glass, and bezel assembly and just swap out the internals it'll be much easier. Unfortunately that assembly is 150 dollars, might as well pay the extra 50 and have lg or a repair shop do it for you and warranty their work.
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Thanks for detailed info. I think I'll save money a bit and then I'll pay for replacement.