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How NOT to separate the LCD and digitizer!

The very thin outer layer of my digitizer peeled off in one spot and my touchscreen stopped working, so I bought a new digitizer on ebay. Then I took apart my phone and got down to the LCD/digitizer, which are glued together. I tried to pull them apart and the LCD split apart, leaving one half firmly glued to the digitizer. Following are pics showing the broken apart LCD/digitizer below the new one, and a close up of one half of the LCD. The rainbow sheen is the oily liquid crystal of the LCD.
If you have to replace the LCD or the digitizer, I highly recommend buying the combo already glued together. Unless you already know how to separate them, you're gonna fail. After breaking mine I went back to ebay and found a LCD/digitizer combo for very cheap - $20. http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LCD-Display-Screen-Digitizer-Touch_W0QQitemZ270457207798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 I hope it's not a mistake, and only the digitizer, but I figured I'd risk it for $20. Also, the seller has positive feedback for this same auction. I'll find out in a week or two; shipping from Hong Kong was very slow for my first digitizer.
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Ouch,
That must have send some nasty shivers down your spine when that happened.
Hope you get a full combo for that price (which is amazingly cheap).
Good luck with the repairs,
EqX

Yeah, I hope it goes well too. Keep us posted on how it all goes, my digitizer is starting to have some lifting problems too so I would love any feedback on the process.

I had the same problem....but I have bought digitizer and lcd at once, and succsesfuly replaced them, actualy, when disasembling the htc, i have cut the speeker wire...., and after that i have order new speeker...
Anyway, now it is working better than when bought.
P.S., the LCD you have found, seller is the same...I bought from him also, (when you replace the part, you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before....)
bye.

gruya011 said:
I had the same problem....but I have bought digitizer and lcd at once, and succsesfuly replaced them,.....
P.S., the LCD you have found, seller is the same...I bought from him also, (when you replace the part, you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before....)
bye.
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What do you mean "you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before..."? Does it mean better contrast or worse?

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And, so how SHOULD WE separate them?? Somebody please explain if you have any tips. I also got a new LCD top panel. I really don't want to get a similar result to this!

I got the LCD kit http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LC...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 and it does, indeed, include the LCD and digitizer. For only $20! Not only that, but it also includes a new front body piece and the LCD/digitizer are already installed. This is quite a relief because I was not looking forward to figuring out how to re-glue the new ones in the old body and have it not come out crappy. I have no idea how they can sell this item and profit.
I've posted a pic of the item's front, back, and finished install. I notice no difference in contrast whatsoever from the original screen. It's possible these really are OEM parts that somehow walked off the factory assembly line. I couldn't discern any differences from the original parts in a close inspection, and usually you can see minor differences in cheap copies.
To install, you just have to move the earpiece, buttons (power, volume rocker, PTT), flex circuit wiring harness, and hard buttons over to the new part, then reassemble reverse from the disassembly.
Overall I'm quite satisfied. The only negative is that there was no protective plastic layer over the screen, only plastic shrink wrap around the entire unit, and because of that there are some tiny scratches on the screen as seen in the last pic (there is no dust/hair on the screen, those are scratches.) It's really not as bad as the pic makes it look. You can't even see the scratches unless you hold the phone so that light reflects off in just the right manner, and when greasy from fingerprints, you can't see them at all. It might be possible to buff them out, but I'm totally satisfied with the results as is.
gruya011 said:
I had the same problem....but I have bought digitizer and lcd at once, and succsesfuly replaced them, actualy, when disasembling the htc, i have cut the speeker wire...., and after that i have order new speeker...
Anyway, now it is working better than when bought.
P.S., the LCD you have found, seller is the same...I bought from him also, (when you replace the part, you will notice that lcd contrast is not like before....)
bye.
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I broke my speaker wires, as well! On the first reassembly I forgot to replug the connector, and when I snapped the phone together one wire somehow broke. While trying to repair, I broke the other speaker wire and ended up running over the connector with my office shair. To fix I bought some 30g magnet wire (very thin stuff) and soldered to pieces of wire from the speaker terminals straight to the two spots just in front of the connector, which I correctly guessed were test points or something on the speaker traces.

[Q] replacement screen?

anyone know where i can get a new one? how easy are these to fix?
it works fine. just cracked. im not sure how touch screens work, but it just looks like the outer glass..if thats what it is.
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I heard its extremely difficult. Supposedly the touch sensor is extremely fragile. Again just what I heard.
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If you are good with small parts and very patient, it is not going to be a terrible job, but I wouldnt recommend it if you havent done a digitizer before. They are very fragile, and the front bezel will require careful removal of old adhesive. Here is a video, ignore the final part which is just the LCD disassembly.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiauhj_htc-thunderbolt-take-apart-screen-repair-guide_school
...and here is the digitizer on Amazon....
http://www.amazon.com/Verizon-HTC-Thunderbolt-Digitizer-Engraving/dp/B004ULQH34

gospeed.racer said:
If you are good with small parts and very patient, it is not going to be a terrible job, but I wouldnt recommend it if you havent done a digitizer before. They are very fragile, and the front bezel will require careful removal of old adhesive. Here is a video, ignore the final part which is just the LCD disassembly.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiauhj_htc-thunderbolt-take-apart-screen-repair-guide_school
...and here is the digitizer on Amazon....
http://www.amazon.com/Verizon-HTC-Thunderbolt-Digitizer-Engraving/dp/B004ULQH34
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thanks! i will definitely look into this.

ok so in that video the adhesive is heated up so they can be separated, but what about putting it back together? is that same adhesive still good? what about where the ribbon cable is glued down?

I have used thin double side tape on a few, but usually I like the black rubberized superglue from the hobby store (called tire glue for RC cars). Use very sparingly. It is shock resistant and not brittle like regular superglue. Keep in mind, I have done a lot of digitizers in the past, but not on a Thunderbolt, your mileage may vary!

Very fragile is an understatement.

I had to replace mine about a week ago. I though it would be easy since I have replaced MANY iPhone digitizers. Ohhh I was wrong. I really wish I would have looked on Amazon since I had to pay 88 for one on eBay (I only buy from US sellers). The hardest part to me was seperating the LCD from the frame. I kinda man handled the old digitizer since it was broke. You will need to use a good combo of heat and force but don't pry to hard or you will crack your LCD. I recommend a blow dryer it does not get super hot and everyone has one. Use the adhesive well since that is the only thing holding your LCD and digitizer to the phone. I made the mistake of not using enough and now when my.phone is not in its case the screen likes to move around.
PS: Keep everything dust free!!! You do not want pressure points between the digitizer and LCD from dust.
No, thats not a storm. Its just my Thunderbolt layin down this post.

thanks again guys. i went ahead and ordered the digitizer. i really hope i dont screw this up. ive never done this before

if you have a warranty, it's cheaper just to pay the deductable and get a new phone

Jesus, you people are brave; I'd not be caught dead trying to pull this kinda thing off!

its mostly because im too cheap to pay someone else to do it lol i better not screw it up though

ok so i replaced the digitizer, no problem. i turned on my phone and my LCD is now all f'd up. half the screen is discolored and lines, bla bla. i took it back apart and what it appears to be is that i must have pulled on the ribbon cable too hard when separating the lcd from the motherboard. its sort of stretched on one side.
So now i have to buy a new LCD i think :/ i might have a cellphone repair place put it in for me.
does anyone know if using a screen from a different phone such as the inspire will work?

Fehnix22 said:
ok so i replaced the digitizer, no problem. i turned on my phone and my LCD is now all f'd up. half the screen is discolored and lines, bla bla. i took it back apart and what it appears to be is that i must have pulled on the ribbon cable too hard when separating the lcd from the motherboard. its sort of stretched on one side.
So now i have to buy a new LCD i think :/ i might have a cellphone repair place put it in for me.
does anyone know if using a screen from a different phone such as the inspire will work?
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There are many services that will repair these things for you, I've seen several ads on eBay to repair digitizers. I would stick with Thunderbolt parts though, unless you want a frankenbolt.

haha yea i guess you're right. its just so expensive :/ i thought maybe i could cop a super LCD. i might bid on a broken thunderbolt on ebay that still has a good screen. think i should or just buy a new one for 70/80 bucks?

Do I need to replace entire LCD or just glass for cracked screen?

So I dropped my phone pretty hard and even with a trident case on the glass cracked. Do I need a whole LCD replacement like this http://www.directfix.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GHT&Product_Code=XX2547 or can I get the glass only http://www.directfix.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GHT&Product_Code=XX2543

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So I dropped my phone pretty hard and even with a trident case on the glass cracked. Do I need a whole LCD replacement like this http://www.directfix.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GHT&Product_Code=XX2547 or can I get the glass only http://www.directfix.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GHT&Product_Code=XX2543
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Can you post a pic of it?
Sent from HTC one s

which trident case kranken pr aegis

randomnoob83 said:
which trident case kranken pr aegis
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Aegis. It was on my bike and flew off and I was gong pretty fast.. I think the kraken would of saved it
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Can you post a pic of it?
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yea, everything still works perfect
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You can just replace the glass instead of the whole amoled screen, However ive seen reports on here saying that it is extremely difficult to just replace the glass as the screen and digitizer are fused together.
If you can find a good how to guide and maybe a video it would be worth trying as it would save you a lot of money, That being said get it wrong and you will need to replace the whole screen and glass, which would cost a lot more.
Either way, I hope you get it fixed !!

azzledazzle said:
You can just replace the glass instead of the whole amoled screen, However ive seen reports on here saying that it is extremely difficult to just replace the glass as the screen and digitizer are fused together.
If you can find a good how to guide and maybe a video it would be worth trying as it would save you a lot of money, That being said get it wrong and you will need to replace the whole screen and glass, which would cost a lot more.
Either way, I hope you get it fixed !!
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Yea I agree with him but if the digitizer still works on your phone then just get the glass when its available and hope that that works bcuz if its the screen and the digitizer then man that's gonna be a lot of money gone on just the screen
But yea which ever way you choose I hope you get it fixed...
MrMinh said:
Aegis. It was on my bike and flew off and I was gong pretty fast.. I think the kraken would of saved it
Wow...thankfully it didn't break into a couple pieces just flying and going fast
yea, everything still works perfect
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If your digitizer isn't affected then its just the screen but I wouldn't be too sure tho, I mean from the picture it looks like you can use it pretty good
Sent from HTC one s

I think the digitizer is integrated into the display in SAMOLED screens to reduce thickness and air gap between display and glass, and not in the glass cover as in old AMOLEDs like the Desire or Nexus One.
Check this One S teardown/display swap video, seems like the display+digitizer+gorilla glass is one part. Easier to replace but not cheap, directfix wants 169 USD for it. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=/watch?v=b0jGY2N2h1U&v=b0jGY2N2h1U&gl=SE
On a side note the battery is also replaceable and not soldered on so hopefully batteries will pop up on eBay soon enough.

OOUCH! I'm sorry this happened. I only have a slim case. Good thing I don't do anything extreme.

Replacing cracked screen

So I just got the S3 like 2 days ago.. i told myself i wouldnt really take it out the house til I got some protection for it but figured hanging around the house with it wouldnt be bad .. I ordered a rubber skin for it 2 days ago and waiting for it in shipping. Cousin comes over today for a quick visit today than leaves. I took the phone outside with me in my pocket, not thinking about the jersey shorts I was wearing (really slick material) I crouch to pet my dog and it slides out my pocket and hits the ground.. just a bit of the bottom right corner screen is cracked, i think it wouldnt be too noticeable with the case (once that arrives) but it is annoying to have this done to a new phone. I see they have replacement screens on ebay, so Im thinking of just ordering one there. Irony was that I was just telling my cousin he should get a case for his iphone for these very incidents.
My S3 is pebble blue, so this gives me the chance to convert it to white if I want huh. Ive done stuff before like taking my zune mp3 player apart to swap a bigger battery in it, and always mess with computers (modded my laptop). Question is how difficult will it be to swap the screen plate?
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More expensive than difficult
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Ouch Idk if you can just remove the front panel but you might need to mess with the lcd panel. I would look up a video on youtube.

If it is functional I would say wait. The more use you get out of it, the more other parts of the screen will get stressed, could break. The later you replace it, the better the value for you. Again, only if it works and you aren't too annoyed at the appearance. If you do go for it, maybe this might help:

Thanks for the replies, I am researching it now.. I could probably live with it, once the rubber case is here It would cover up the edges of it and it doesnt go into the actual screen too much. But it is annoying ,
But i see alot of replacement glass on ebay that dont have the lcd screen with it , I wonder how the heck are they selling those if from what Im reading its all one piece with the lcd and touchpad.

hypertek said:
Thanks for the replies, I am researching it now.. I could probably live with it, once the rubber case is here It would cover up the edges of it and it doesnt go into the actual screen too much. But it is annoying ,
But i see alot of replacement glass on ebay that dont have the lcd screen with it , I wonder how the heck are they selling those if from what Im reading its all one piece with the lcd and touchpad.
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I have yet to see anyone.. ANYONE replace just the screen... I have the same problem... but sammy said it would cost me 178 for them to fix...my phone is now in claims status

hypertek said:
Thanks for the replies, I am researching it now.. I could probably live with it, once the rubber case is here It would cover up the edges of it and it doesnt go into the actual screen too much. But it is annoying ,
But i see alot of replacement glass on ebay that dont have the lcd screen with it , I wonder how the heck are they selling those if from what Im reading its all one piece with the lcd and touchpad.
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They probably mold it themselves. cheap knock off's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5IPaCPaY_0
his vid really makes it look possible since when he got the glass/digitizer off, the screen was separate , but i cant tell if the lcd got damaged when he took the digitizer off since he used a screwdriver and didnt put much care into it since he said was already broken.

hypertek said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5IPaCPaY_0
his vid really makes it look possible since when he got the glass/digitizer off, the screen was separate , but i cant tell if the lcd got damaged when he took the digitizer off .
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That looks so sketchy and unprofessional. It scares me.

i know the phone is fairly new so replacing just the glass/digitizer seems like no one on the net has experience documented replacing just that.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Touch-S...954?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4169ade3c2

Question Display Issues?

Hi,
I have been using the 7 pro since the day it launched. Out of nowhere, last week, I saw a blackish patch on the left side of my display. One week later, it is spreading like a virus and taking more area of the screen. Posting pictures here. Any idea what may have caused this.
I reached out to Google, and they are sending in a replacement. I was just wondering if someone else came across such a problem
Thank you
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Could that be caused by dirt or debris getting up in there? That seems a little more significant than maybe a group of dead pixels. Regardless to me it seems pretty serious and not something that a soft reset would fix.

Looks like Purity, the black oil/cancer alien virus from the X-Files
Pretty sure I've seen this on someone else's device but don't recall if the cause was discovered.

That is caused by a break in the internal LCD structure. It can happen from a drop - especially with a device having curved glass! The curve might put the internal LCD at bigger risk of breaking depending on the overall display construction (both internal and external).
I'm more surprised by this happening without the exterior glass breaking or cracking at all. I guess the new Gorilla Glass Victus is stronger than I had anticipated. Perhaps the Pixel 7 series phones really got the Gorilla Glass Victus 2 glass (although it says that it just got "Gorilla Glass Victus" on the Google Store page). I say this because the Pixel 6 series of phones had the same glass, however, could very easily gather visible scratches (for example, my jeans could leave a visible scuff LOL). But my P7P hasn't gotten any visible scuffs or scratches at all yet - which has left me wondering what was changed in its supposedly identical glass sides.

chetly968 said:
Could that be caused by dirt or debris getting up in there? That seems a little more significant than maybe a group of dead pixels. Regardless to me it seems pretty serious and not something that a soft reset would fix.
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I do not think that could be the cause of that

NippleSauce said:
That is caused by a break in the internal LCD structure. It can happen from a drop - especially with a device having curved glass! The curve might put the internal LCD at bigger risk of breaking depending on the overall display construction (both internal and external).
I'm more surprised by this happening without the exterior glass breaking or cracking at all. I guess the new Gorilla Glass Victus is stronger than I had anticipated. Perhaps the Pixel 7 series phones really got the Gorilla Glass Victus 2 glass (although it says that it just got "Gorilla Glass Victus" on the Google Store page). I say this because the Pixel 6 series of phones had the same glass, however, could very easily gather visible scratches (for example, my jeans could leave a visible scuff LOL). But my P7P hasn't gotten any visible scuffs or scratches at all yet - which has left me wondering what was changed in its supposedly identical glass sides.
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Sounds like it. Cannot wait for the replacement to come in. and this post tells me I should make sure I always have a case on with a good screen protector I guess

Beware they're going to charge you for a broken screen so prepare for that.

roddem said:
Sounds like it. Cannot wait for the replacement to come in. and this post tells me I should make sure I always have a case on with a good screen protector I guess
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Best of luck with the replacement device! But overall, it just seems like you need to be extra careful with modern technology nowadays. Companies out there seems to be building stuff that is easier to break or degrades faster in order for them to stay more profitable over time =/.
I miss the days where the companies used to compete to see who could build the device that lasted the longest...especially considering the fact that I never use screen protectors or cases on my phones and so one drop would cost me an arm, a leg and a kidney...haha

Yeah I see it

I got the replacement device. And they said if there is no physical damage outside, there will be no charge. There is not any damage, and honestly it did not fell as well in the last one month. Just once when I got the device. and nothing happened that time.