So I've had my transformer for approximately a week now, usually when I get an android phone within hours I root it. So far it seems that the transformer root isn't fully functional and trouble free as other devices, this has held me back from rooting. What are the causes for this and will we ever see a good root without problems (eg broken camera if rooted on latest ota update). On the other hand those who have rooted how are the roms?
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Hey so I have read a lot of the threads on rooting but I think (hope) mine is a bit original for you. I am one of those skittish goody-two-shoes type people who have a bad record of breaking their electronics. My family is updating their tmobile plan in August and I am planning on getting a lg g2x. It seems like a great phone that'll be able to keep up with the advancements of Android for a while. However I have heard the battery life is really bad (as it is for most androids) and that there are all of these great methods I could use (setCPU, Battery Calibration, etc.) and I can get rid of ads on my apps (adfree) and even use ROMs and Themes!! This sounds great EXCEPT all of the above requires rooting. So my question is, if I install Battery Calibration, setCPU, adfree, etc, while rooted and then just unroot, will they all still work??? Also, in the case that this is possible, if I have any problems with my phone and have to send it in for service, as long as it's unrooted I don't have to delete any of the apps to put it back under warranty do I? And (yes there's more) can I continuously root/unroot as I please in order to change themes and ROMs and even updating the android system once my phone is out of date (though I hope I'm not obsolete within 2 yrs) and no longer gets updates from my phone company? I know superoneclick is supposed to be really easy but as I don't have the phone yet I was wondering how fast it actually is as well.
Thanks for all of your help!!
Hmm....lots of questions young one, well 1st of all by rooting it technically voids the warranty, and yes for the programs to work properly you will need to keep it rooted because some off them actually need root access to tweak the device.
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Hey so I have read a lot of the threads on rooting but I think (hope) mine is a bit original for you. I am one of those skittish goody-two-shoes type people who have a bad record of breaking their electronics. My family is updating their tmobile plan in August and I am planning on getting a lg g2x. It seems like a great phone that'll be able to keep up with the advancements of Android for a while. However I have heard the battery life is really bad (as it is for most androids) and that there are all of these great methods I could use (setCPU, Battery Calibration, etc.) and I can get rid of ads on my apps (adfree) and even use ROMs and Themes!! This sounds great EXCEPT all of the above requires rooting. So my question is, if I install Battery Calibration, setCPU, adfree, etc, while rooted and then just unroot, will they all still work??? Also, in the case that this is possible, if I have any problems with my phone and have to send it in for service, as long as it's unrooted I don't have to delete any of the apps to put it back under warranty do I? And (yes there's more) can I continuously root/unroot as I please in order to change themes and ROMs and even updating the android system once my phone is out of date (though I hope I'm not obsolete within 2 yrs) and no longer gets updates from my phone company? I know superoneclick is supposed to be really easy but as I don't have the phone yet I was wondering how fast it actually is as well.
Thanks for all of your help!!
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1. If you install the root required apps, root, then unroot, they will stop working. Once an app requires root and your phone is not rooted, even if it was before but it's not now, they will not work.
2. There are many one click root apps. e.g. z4root and universal androot.
3. You will have to unroot and remove the root required apps to put it back under warranty. I say this because if you leave them, then your provider will know that you must have rooted your phone to put them on it in the first place. (It would be like sending an Iphone for servicing to AT&T with Cydia installed. They will know that you jailbroke it.
4 Superoneclick does work fast. It may take up to five minutes (depends on your phone model), but remember what I said in #2. Good luck.
today I purchased a transformer from micro center, serial b70kas203, build us_epad-8.4.4.11-20110711. I haven't been home yet to try rooting, but sounds like it most likely has sbk_v2. I would like to be able to root when available, but what I am wondering is if its ok to do any ota updates? Or will doing ota updates further prevent me from rooting?
It really depends on what Asus decides they want to do security-wise. I know with the Evo a lot of people took certain OTAs and ended up making their phone un-rootable. In my experience, it's best to let the OTA ride for a couple of days and check back here or other dev hotspots to see if anybody is having trouble with them. You can always wait a little while for an update, and it's safer to have somebody else who isn't as wise do the testing.
well how about asking this way, can I safely update mine which has 3.1 to most recent ota? I too have an evo and know about those crippling updates, and i'm wondering if its safe for me to hook my transformer up to wifi and accept updates to 3.2.
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well how about asking this way, can I safely update mine which has 3.1 to most recent ota? I too have an evo and know about those crippling updates, and i'm wondering if its safe for me to hook my transformer up to wifi and accept updates to 3.2.
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I think the latest updates to tf101 has no impact on whether you can root or not later on. If your tf has sbk1 then you can root, but if it has sbk2, then no go at the moment. So fire away, let the fota do its thing, then try to root afterwards when the updates are finished.
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After almost a year of just accepting the "battery drain when docked" issue of my B50 model, I decided today to RMA the device. However, it is currently running the Revolver custom rom. I'm positive it's a dock hardware issue, but I'm wondering: will ASUS mind the custom rom or do they really want to see a stock rom on the device? Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks!
Just to be safe put the stock rom on it i used to work at a RMA repair Shop and the order from up top was if ANYTHING has been Changed in ANY way Send it back DENIED do to Tampering! and Voids your warranty.
ASUS has been 50/50 with me in the past but the safe thing to do is load the stock ROM but I'm sure you can get away with it Rooted
always a chance they might just exchange it to a newer one as well.
Thanks for the reply. I'll unroot and return to stock just to be safe. And I really hope they don't exchange it :/ (although newer root methods seem to work on those just fine)
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Thanks for the reply. I'll unroot and return to stock just to be safe. And I really hope they don't exchange it :/ (although newer root methods seem to work on those just fine)
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root methods have nothing to do with it the use of NVflash is what counts here newer models can be Bricked But a Bricked unit can be sent to asus to be fixed so is a catch 22
i can fully Charge my dock and after about 6 day unpluged and NOT used it will be Dead ;-p
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i can fully Charge my dock and after about 6 day unpluged and NOT used it will be Dead ;-p
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6 days? If I fully charge my tablet and dock and keep the tablet docked, both of them will drained within a couple of days. Even if I don't use it. I have restored my tablet to stock ICS and have arranged RMA, so it should be picked up soon. It would be so nice to have a combo that does not die within a couple of days without using it.
I know the majority of speeding up this tablet is with custom kernels/ROMS. I just got my TF300T and I am at stock unrooted 4.2.1, and I know the new bootloader has something on it keeping people from being able to do too much with it right now. I know if I unlock the bootloader then I lose my warranty (which is stupid and not the case with my GS3), but I would love to be able to speed up this tablet.
It seems really slow in responsiveness and I wonder if 4.2.1 did this to it, because all the other reviews for this tablet previously said it was pretty decently quick. I am quite disappointed if the only way I can get it to speed up is to void my warranty and install a custom ROM/Kernel when you all figure out how to get around the current bootloader issues.
Any suggestions on giving this tablet a little more zip without the ability of unlocking it? Does anyone think there will be a way to Root it without unlocking it? How feasible is it to downgrade to another firmware (without bricking it) to achieve Root if that ever becomes a possibility?.
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I know the majority of speeding up this tablet is with custom kernels/ROMS. I just got my TF300T and I am at stock unrooted 4.2.1, and I know the new bootloader has something on it keeping people from being able to do too much with it right now. I know if I unlock the bootloader then I lose my warranty (which is stupid and not the case with my GS3), but I would love to be able to speed up this tablet.
It seems really slow in responsiveness and I wonder if 4.2.1 did this to it, because all the other reviews for this tablet previously said it was pretty decently quick. I am quite disappointed if the only way I can get it to speed up is to void my warranty and install a custom ROM/Kernel when you all figure out how to get around the current bootloader issues.
Any suggestions on giving this tablet a little more zip without the ability of unlocking it? Does anyone think there will be a way to Root it without unlocking it? How feasible is it to downgrade to another firmware (without bricking it) to achieve Root if that ever becomes a possibility?.
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don't wander about the new bootloader, i did it, and now have a BRICK instead of tablet!!!
a HARD brick of course!!!
if you need a faster tablet, go for something like iPad or Note 10 or even Tablet Z, this damn tablet is exactly what you see in 4.2, even when it was on 4.1, believe me...
just be cautious enough about new bootlaoder in 4.2, it's a crap, it screwed my tab...
Wish you best of bests
Hi Everyone,
I bought a TF700T back in September of 2012 with the Keyboard and mouse setup. I am not too happy with the TF700 as I am with my TF300. My TF300 is 3 times faster at browsing and every day app use. I bought a 3 year (1 x 3 Yr Day 1 NB Replacement ADH Plan For Item#N82E16834230394) for my TF300 and a 2 year (1 x 2 Yr Day 1 NB Replacement ADH Plan For Item#N82E16834230481) for the TF700T from Newegg.
Major issues are lockups (Need to be closed and re-opened), app freezes that last a second or two, horrible web surfing, Chrome, built in browser and a few times with Firefox. It acts like it is a solo core with the way it can't multitask simple processes.
My questions are, will this void my paid for warranty?
If no then I would like to know what is the best firmware out there for my tablet cause I am sick of dealing with the sloppy Asus code that is currently on there. It is horrible and my TF300 got 4.2 a few weeks ago and I have doubt Asus will fix it. For a 4 core tablet it is kind of a joke when it does anything I/O related.
If yes on the warranty what do you recommend or what would you do?
I would like to know gains and losses on the other firmwares if possible.
Thanks everyone,
Ross
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My bad.
I personally would wait until after a year is gone. That way they cannot say you have a 1 year factory warranty. I highly doubt you will have a software problem if you review information carefully and ask questions when you need something answered. But, if you have a hardware problem within the year time period, the extended warranty would rely upon ASUS' warranty to fix the product. And since you voided it ASUS will not cover it and it seems any aftermarket warranty is voided if it is software related. When the aftermarket sends it to ASUS, ASUS will tell them the warranty is voided but I am not 100% sure how it works. It is in the end your choice. the factory 1 year warranty personally isnt worth the speed boost. But you purchased an extended.
In the end it comes down to your choice.
Tylor
Have you tried a factory reset and cold boot? Did wonders for mine after I upgraded to JB.
I'm completely stock except for rooting, disabling a lot of the Asus bloat, installed AdAway (ad blocker app) and the latest Chrome Beta, it's blazing fast.
Tylor:
I agree on the Asus warranty. For the warranty I bought I have had to use it in the past for my wife's TF300, some how it fell in between the door and the seat and the door was slammed on it shattering the glass and display. They paid me back on the tablet so I could buy another one, all I was out was the cost of the warranty, around 60 bucks I think as it was totaled from what they said. I would believe it, the frame was bent and I had to hook it to HDMI just so I could back it up as there was no working screen at all on it. I just wonder if I hack the OS and all if they will say that wasn't accidental.
I may try what GitAlongLilDoggies said and see if that works. Did you do the root using the Debugfs automated root tool from [09/18/2012] and after did you update it to 4.1.1?
Thanks for all the input.
Ross
GitAlongLilDoggies
Did you do the root using the Debugfs automated root tool from [09/18/2012] and after did you update it to 4.1.1?
Thanks for all the input.
Ross
rosswaters said:
Did you do the root using the Debugfs automated root tool from [09/18/2012] and after did you update it to 4.1.1?
Thanks for all the input.
Ross
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Yes that is what I did. But after rooting in ICS and before OTA back to JB, install either Voodoo OTA rootkeeper or OTA Rootkeeper, and I would suggest superSU to replace Superuser. In Voodoo enable "protect su copy" and in superSU (Pro) you can also enable "OTA protection" or something like that. There is no setting in superSU free for OTA protection. Then "update su binaries". I haven't used OTA rootkeeper, but I'm sure there's similar settings as in Voodoo. Then OTA, and after use either Voodoo or OTA Rootkeeper to "restore root" from "protected su copy". I would also suggest to install superSU as "system app" as the grand finalle. This automagically removed superuser.apk and its binaries from my /system partion.
Oh, very important, if you are still on 9.4.4.30? (.30) or lower (ICS) and have never been to JB before, make damn sure to install nvflash!!! This is very important and will make the device nearly brick-proof so you can get ROM and kernel flash-happy without needing a flack jacket.
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Did you do the root using the Debugfs automated root tool from [09/18/2012] and after did you update it to 4.1.1?
Thanks for all the input.
Ross
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Yes, I used the Debugfs tool. I rooted before the JB update and used OTA RootKeeper to restore root afterwards. Unfortunately I didn't know about nvflash until it was to late.