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ROMs that dont need an unlocked bootloader

ive looking and i couldnt find one. does anyone have one that i dont need to have an unlocked bootloader?

Not physically possible. If you need customization, use root with the stock rom and be very careful not to brick.

how would it not be possible? just use a stock kernel and you should be good. thats what we did with the atrix 2 since the bootloaders locked.

Don't think you can put a custom recovery on without unlocking the bootloader. No recovery = no flashing ROMs

vegandroid said:
how would it not be possible? just use a stock kernel and you should be good. thats what we did with the atrix 2 since the bootloaders locked.
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Don't even start on that bootstrap debacle with moto phones. It was absolutely horrid for flashing anything and was not nearly powerful enough for me. The hassle of using a neutered recovery instead of the real thing is just not worth it, even considering the warrantee.
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Keion said:
Don't even start on that bootstrap debacle with moto phones. It was absolutely horrid for flashing anything and was not nearly powerful enough for me. The hassle of using a neutered recovery instead of the real thing is just not worth it, even considering the warrantee.
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.... I fail to see the point of your post. I didn't ask for your opinion on Motorola or what works best for you. Style on topic dude.
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So there is a way to install custom ROM's without unlocking the bootloader? If so, I'd love to know how!!
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The problem is, the methods used on those Motorola phones are very hackish, and not recommended if alternatives are present. And since the TF700 is unlockable, its extremely unlikely those methods will ever be duplicated since those who want to mod can do so without restrictions.
Just look at the OG Atrix community... the instant an unlockable bootloader was leaked, development for those hackish methods immediately halted. Someone ported 2nd init days or weeks before that happened, and nothing was ever written to use it because it simply wasnt needed anymore.

jtrosky said:
So there is a way to install custom ROM's without unlocking the bootloader? If so, I'd love to know how!!
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+1. If there was any way to get around Asus's crappy unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty thing I'd jump right on it. I also didn't know that type of thing was possible...
vegandroid said:
ive looking and i couldnt find one. does anyone have one that i dont need to have an unlocked bootloader?
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Did I read that you were going to try to port paranoidandroid to the TF700 last night or was that one of my weird obsessive Infinity dreams ?? I wish you luck if you are going to try - we need a few more devs around these parts.

I personally wasn't worrying about voiding the warranty considering it rooting voided on all the other devices I've had. I'm more waiting for a reason to unlock the boot loader. It's just a nice bonus that rooting doesn't.
I just say wait till you have a reason, and feel comfortable that the device you got is good.

Did I read that you were going to try to port paranoidandroid to the TF700 last night or was that one of my weird obsessive Infinity dreams ?? I wish you luck if you are going to try - we need a few more devs around these parts.
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When i can get jellybean then ill work on it. Im super busy with school and work, but i need to set some time aside to port it for tf700. i just cant spare the time to completely port JB too right now.
Jotokun said:
The problem is, the methods used on those Motorola phones are very hackish, and not recommended if alternatives are present. And since the TF700 is unlockable, its extremely unlikely those methods will ever be duplicated since those who want to mod can do so without restrictions.
Just look at the OG Atrix community... the instant an unlockable bootloader was leaked, development for those hackish methods immediately halted. Someone ported 2nd init days or weeks before that happened, and nothing was ever written to use it because it simply wasnt needed anymore.
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Makes a lot of sense, thanks!

Personally, I'm still interested in a way to flash custom ROM's without unlocking the bootloader, even if it is "hack'ish".
As a good example, I unlocked the bootloader on my original TF700 after I had it for about 3 weeks. I figured that I was good to go - no major flaws... And then about 2 weeks later, the damn thing died on me, so I was stuck with a less-than-45-day-old device that had no warranty!!
I'm just saying - if there is a way to flash ROM's without voiding my warranty, I'd be *very* interested in doing that, even if it was a little hack'ish!
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its rather hard to install custom roms without an unlocked bootloader.
Consider this: You have a computer that boots directly into windows. Now you have administrator access to the computer however you can't change the boot priority, what disks it boots from, or anything having to do with how the thing starts up. Usually when you want to install an operating system, say windows xp, you would put the disk in, boot from the CD, and install it. Well we have no "boot from CD" option, everything pertaining to that is locked down by Asus.
I know other phones have found ways to sidetrack around that but honestly, with how unreliable they are its often not worth it. Asus has this thing locked down pretty well that its damn near impossible to get enough access to load anything custom at startup (even the unlock they gave us is garbage, if that fails your screwed).
If you want to load something custom you are best to get a third party warrenty and use the unlock.

pileot said:
its rather hard to install custom roms without an unlocked bootloader.
Consider this: You have a computer that boots directly into windows. Now you have administrator access to the computer however you can't change the boot priority, what disks it boots from, or anything having to do with how the thing starts up. Usually when you want to install an operating system, say windows xp, you would put the disk in, boot from the CD, and install it. Well we have no "boot from CD" option, everything pertaining to that is locked down by Asus.
I know other phones have found ways to sidetrack around that but honestly, with how unreliable they are its often not worth it. Asus has this thing locked down pretty well that its damn near impossible to get enough access to load anything custom at startup (even the unlock they gave us is garbage, if that fails your screwed).
If you want to load something custom you are best to get a third party warrenty and use the unlock.
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Even with those methods, you're still restricted. For example, the Motorola phone hacks can run custom roms, but are still stuck with the stock motorola kernels. That means a (somewhat dirty) AOSP rom can be made around the kernel, but a true clean Cyanogenmod or anything requiring kernel level hacks are not possible.

Any timeline for TF300T Jelly bean root on locked TF300T?

Probably like many others out there I don't wish to unlock the bootloader on my tablet just yet. The one and only reason I don't is because the warranty is still in effect. I've used CWM on several Androidl phones and love it.
Been unsuccessful flashing back to ICS (like everyone else on a locked pad), I got caught up in the OTA and have since lost root, I really regret it. No way to flash back at all. I wish there was some way to "fool" the tab to see a zip file as JB update but really flash back an earlier ICS one.
Not being a programmer or developer, the whole reasoning of why I cant flash back confuses me. I mean if I were to think a bit I could reflash the pad with the same zip file version that the OTA gave me (back on ICS)...just like I did when I first rooted it). Right? So something in the zip tells JB not to go to a previous version. Although in the past I could jump up or down in an ICS version (I assume).
So the question remains. All posts point me to the fact that I'd need a custom recovery to do anything to downgrade and restore root, and although Voodoo does run to restore root on JB and it says it did, it really doesn't. But to do it right and go back to ICS, I'd basically have to violate warranty.
Are there plans in the works or is a working JB root being actively attacked for a locked bootloader running Jelly Bean? It would be relieving to know if anyone out there is pursuing such a task or if it's dead in the water.
All positive comments invited. Please hold back anything referring to why don't I just unlock. The reasons are pretty clear and I'm sure I'm not the only one. My extended goes for 2 years. Covers everything. Unless I unlock. Then it's just money wasted. And once I unlock, "the fuse is blown" so to speak, with no way to re lock it.

I completely agree.
I was previously rooted b4 jelly bean. I am also unwilling to unlock due to warranty. Due to my current employment in the military, my tablet always has a chance of breaking due to the environment of the navy and i would prefer to maintain a warranty in case this were to happen. If anyone heres of a timeline of when a possible locked root can be accessed i would love to hear any further information.

Prefect response USS. I got caught up in the hype awhile ago and purchased an ATV. If I had known that the 3rd gen model was having difficulty being jailbroken, I would have waited. It's cool. But now that I realize the months it's taken for the guru's to develop and fail on a jailbreak for it and getting stung with the Jelly Bean update from ASUS, I'm very happy I haven't accepted any software updates for it (AppleTV). For fear that 1) a jailbreak won't work on the latest sw version when and if one is released and 2) a new sw version installed on it will put me in the same boat (no pun intended) ASUS has me in with Jelly Bean (cant root it, cant go back to a previous stable flash at all). For a hundred bucks either way, it is a cool and cheap gadget. But a 2nd gen model can have so many features modded into it. Rooting my 300 on Jelly Bean would make me feel more as if I had control of what I bought and how I could use on it. Seems like ASUS' Android open source code has been closed up for us unlike the many flavors of Linux out there that you can download for free and install as you like on any pc.

So, it's a Google issue? Asus' reply here
Adding to the info list:
After emailing ASUS airing my concerns of not being able to downgrade without voiding my warranty which boils down to an unlock, the reply points me to "It's a Google thing". For developers who read this, it would be cool to get a brief or in depth reasoning as to why the JB update can manipulate the bootloader to update the OS, yet an ICS binary cannot be used to flash to that version. I hope this makes sense.
ASUS' Reply:
Thank you for contacting us in regards to the firmware update and I do apologize for your inconvenience. Unfortunately there will be no option to revert back to the previous firmware after the update. (It's just the way of the design by the software vendor 'Google'). I would suggest backing up your personal data and perform a factory reset if you are experiencing problems after the firmware update. Please do let me know if the problem still persists.
In my profession working around PLC's and EPROM's, System BIOS, etc, I have programming fixtures and cables to do what I need to. PLC's are sometimes passworded and the vendor is reluctant to give it out. So a swap out is sometimes necessary even though I may have a binary or programming software to make the change I need. Erasing memory sometimes requires a UV eraser or interface to erase before loading a new binary. This never hinders programming unless a "fuse" in the chip has been previously blown to prevent reads or writes of the code..
So how does a new firmware circumvent a locked bootloader to flash it? And what would prevent fastboot or ADB from sending a binary fine to the system? Is this a good and clear question? Linux/Android being an open source (for the most part) OS, it seems like what just happened to me in the JB update falls into a gray area of the code.

ASUS is partially correct in that Googles bootloader for Jellybean is very different than Ice Cream Sandwich. Ive had this issue across all devices I own, however, the locked bootloader is the real issue, and this is an ASUS design. If the boot loader was unlocked, it would be possible to downgrade, hence why those with an unlocked bootloader can regress. ASUS gave us the ability to unlock the boot loader at the expense of the warranty, which is more than many of the companies do, however, putting it on google as it being their problem is a bit of an overstatement. You CAN go back, you just have to unlock....bogus, but ASUS does NOT want to warranty devices that have been regressed for obvious reasons...

What is the big reason for rooting/ROM now that we have JB?

Maybe a naive question but what are the big advantages to rooting and installing a ROM on the Infinity now that it has JB?
Thanks for your help!

Overclocking GPU.
Better speed, less lag w/ cleanrom.

Does it really void your warranty? Can't nandroid back?

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Does it really void your warranty? Can't nandroid back?
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Yes, and there is no way back. The unlocker tool sends your device ID to Asus, so they will forever know that you voided your warranty, whatever you do to your device afterwards.
And unlocking without Asus is impossible since the bootloader is encrypted with a device-specific key.

It is a bit scary making the break from any support from Asus.
Dealt with their support on other hardware and for me it's not a big loss.
Evidently new kernels will be up shortly that can push the cpu clock higher and undervolt also.
So it looks like an overclock is on the horizon.
The way this tab is running today I don't believe I'll ever look back.
Sent from a tablet optimized by CleanROM 2.3

Rooting for me to avoid ads, add alarms and tones to root directory, and use lucky patcher. No need to unlock through.:screwy:
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That is ridiculous and, right, a bit scary.
I really want to ROM but I am afraid I value the warranty a little more. I understand that others might feel the opposite though. I'll get my root urges out on my Tab 2.
But.... oh so tempting.

djnikko said:
Rooting for me to avoid ads, add alarms and tones to root directory, and use lucky patcher. No need to unlock through.:screwy:
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Rooted only for Adblock, titanium backup mainly
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Root / 3rd party Roms + better than the Tf201?

Im sorry if this question has been asked before but I've scanned the forums and dont see it..
I understand that the Asus TF700 has a locked bootloader that can be unlocked via an Asus tool that will invalidate the warranty (and for real this time..)
Every android phone I've had I've ended up installing 3rd party roms (*love* Paranoid Android, its made my Note into my best phone ever) but does this mean I cant get root or install a 3rd party rom etc without invaliding the warranty.. or are there work-around for this issue?
Also, Im curious what peoples impression of the Infinty are, I was going to by the Tf201 but all the horror stories about the software and physical build issues really soured me to the idea..
So whats the skinny?

You can root without losing your warranty. That question has been answered several times. You can NOT flash a custom ROM without losing your warranty.
Well, this forum is full of people's opinions about the TF700T, you'd get a better picture by looking around the forum yourself.
I love my TF700T. When I was on stock, it was pretty annoying and kinda slow... then I decided to flash CleanROM, and now it's almost perfect.

Advice before 1st touch

Hi all,
after having read a lot on different accessible Android tablets, I have decided to purchase a T700. Seeing the speed on YouTube and reading about this device have convinced me to make that step.
Now, the order is placed, but receipt is still a few days away, I am reading this site and have the feeling that actually the device is not so smooth when kept original. I do wish to have a smooth working device but keep away from as much flashing as possible.
As my signature might indicate, I have some flashing experience, but I still feel myself noob for each and every new device I get.
My Desire HD has always been stock, not even rooted.
My OneX+ is rooted and unlocked after a short while, I use TitaniumBackup and deleted some Bloatware, but have no wish to flash any custom roms.
I just feel that flashing a device new and new to get it perfect is aking too much time. My rooted and unlocked OneX+ is fast enough, no tweaking needed.
This is the state I would like my T700 to be in. Fast and smooth with allowance to have the device do what I want.
Means I do want root, but if not necessary would not like to unlock / flash or anything else.
Can You advice me on the steps I should or should not do to get such state.
-should I make sure not to use any OTA after receipt
-should I root after receipt and upgrade to JB after that (and eventually root once more)
I will be reading around more before I will get my hands on the device, but I would really like to make the correct steps.
I'd be grateful for your opinions.
Thanks in advance,
Ruud

To be honest, the TF700 does have some performance issues with the stock firmware. I would *highly* recommend that you install a custom ROM - more specifically, I'd recommend the "CleanROM Inheritance" custom ROM specifically for your TF700, which will make it *very* fast and smooth.
Of course, in order to install a custom ROM, such as CleanROM Inheritance, you will need to unlock the bootloader on your device, which *will* void your warranty! If that is a concern (it was for me), I would recommend a third-party warranty service such as SquareTrade. With a coupon, you can get 2 years of coverage (including "accidental coverage") for about $80. This way, if you do brick your device while trying to flash a custom ROM, you will be covered.
Trust me, $80 is a small price to pay for complete peace-of-mind for 2 years, especially considering the performance gain with CleanROM. Hell, even if I run the TF700 over with my car, it will still be covered under warranty...
Just my opinion, of course!
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Hi,
Thanks, although this was not exactly what I wanted to hear.
So even if I would unpack and let all OTA updates run up to JB, give it a complete refresh, I would still be unhappy with the performance, right ?
The insurance is nice, but as I am to use it in Russia, I would not know if I am covered for these things.
It is actually not the fact that I am afraid to loose warranty. All devices I did unlock were done after reading the different threads here and I was always lucky to get the job done without serious issues. My OneX+ is still brandnew and I presume I do not have warranty anymore anyway as I rooted and unlocked it already.
What I was hoping for is to get a smooth device without the need to go through this process, I guess your answer says I am not .
regards,
Ruud

Before doping the OTA updates use NVflash. Eventos though you are no considering flashing ROMs now it will be a good insurance in the case you change tour mind in the future.
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raladoshow said:
Before doping the OTA updates use NVflash.
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To be more exact: version 9.4.5.26 is the last version that can be used to *prepare* NVFlash access. To use NVFlash on the TF700, you need a tool called "wheelie" and a blob file with data extracted from your device (it's encrypted with a device-specific key). Later bootloaders are locked down, even after unlocking the device, so it is no longer possible to obtain this file. So before upgrading anything, be sure to read about the procedure on http://androidroot.mobi/t3_nvflash/ .
There is also a thread in the development section that explains the details.

Hi guys,
these looks like very good advises. Before reading in to them, let me say ; "Thanks" !
regards,
Ruud