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Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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constructive crticism welscome
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
P.S.
if issues are not resolved then it never will be as no one will accept blame and any such thread will eventually result in blame game.
right now see that people are just paying attention to information,now calling them for campaign is also a distraction.
btpd21 said:
Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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rohit3192 said:
i am sure that neo will close this thread as this is not required.
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
plz ask Neo to close this thread.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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Hey, thanks for sharing your opinion with me in a respectful manner. However, I feel that the issue is not yet resolved, and the general forum is definitely the appropriate place to post it. The development is virtually at a standstill and I am not talking about gtg, but the other devs and would be devs who are now discouraged. I find that although your response was polite, it was completely inappropriate, especially considering what my original post stated. If you have an issue with my posts please message in private as opposed to calling me out/ racking up your post count.
Corvette Dave said:
Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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Thank you for your support! I appreciate it.
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I doubt the devs read half the crap, and know that most if the quiet folks really enjoy there work, and in no means are they scared to
release there work, but rather punish and don't release, which its necessary to shut alt of people up, can always find them on irc
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I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Neo just as you posted this I was editing my post in this thread.
I was concerned that this thread doesn't become a place for blaming other members or finding faults of others.as long as this stands for supporting devs my vote is there.
Right now I think forum is going well
NeoS2007 said:
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
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I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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nash2000 said:
I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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I will flag this to our admins, so it can be looked into. Thanks for your feedback.
jayson94538 said:
I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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My app shows the Q&A section. But it didn't until I reinstalled. Had to reinstall it after I put CM7 on.
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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apallohadas said:
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Heh well that worked. Thank you.
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NeoS2007 said:
I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Thanks for your support. Is there a way we could mark our bad posts to be deleted without reporting ourselves?
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I think alot of people like myself are new android users. I knew nothing 3 months ago about Android then I got the infuse my first smartphone which seems like its a lot of peoples first android. So I admit I posted questions then went and found the answer when I got no replies. I think people just need to understand that this is very fresh for a lot of people. It was ridiculous on gtg's post but on the other hand people got so angry at othrs that knew very little.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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You don't even have to unsubscribe just subscribe again (referring to the xda app)
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And I think another reason why we see a lot of similar topics being posted especially regarding support is because new users (like myself) feel we need support about our specific situation, even tho we may have already read a similar thrend. Its happened to me were I posted help and either ill get a smart reply ie "its been posted 10 times already" or they may reply with a link. The link will be exactly what I've already read but, the thrend doesn't 100% pertain to my situation so I'm afraid I may mess up even more if I follow those steps (its actually already happened,my first brick) This is why we may see a lot of repeat thrends. I usually will encourage my support giver to pm me but I hardly receive any.
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Why not have a separate section for rom support? I realize that sounds goofy but in the rom thread could be development related questions and in support section help and tech support?
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Well, xda-developers is for... DEVELOPERS. Although most people on xda are in it for the custom roms and leeching of apps.
I agree there should be some kind of a "noob sandbox" where new users can ask their questions and get answers from more seasoned users/devs. But how do you guys propose we do that?
What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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acc_kareemomar said:
What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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Because whiners never prosper.
acc_kareemomar said:
What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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Firstly, One solution would be for you to post in the correct forum Q&A would be better..........
Secondly, you could always learn to and build and develop a ROM from scratch yourself. I did !!
I feel your post is a "slap in the face" to all contributing in this forum! Complaining is not constructive!
Many of us have other 'lives' outside XDA. It takes an awful lot of reading, research, setup, trial and many errors of testing, patience, TIME, and all of the above many times over and over.
We are not paid to share what we've created/cooked/kanged/modded/themed etc, we give back to the community because we enjoy it, not because we are obliged to do so.
acc_kareemomar said:
What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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Your questions should be addressed in the Q&A section, not in the development section
Questions belong in the Q&A forum. Thread has been moved.
UpInTheAir said:
Firstly, One solution would be for you to post in the correct forum Q&A would be better..........
Secondly, you could always learn to and build and develop a ROM from scratch yourself. I did !!
I feel your post is a "slap in the face" to all contributing in this forum! Complaining is not constructive!
Many of us have other 'lives' outside XDA. It takes an awful lot of reading, research, setup, trial and many errors of testing, patience, TIME, and all of the above many times over and over.
We are not paid to share what we've created/cooked/kanged/modded/themed etc, we give back to the community because we enjoy it, not because we are obliged to do so.
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Also, OP, please read this post. they makes very good points that should be understood by everyone that uses this site. Thanks
Another big reason is the fact that the P6800 is not widely available in the USA, Verizon does carry the 7.7 but that model will always be the last one to get development if any. Another reason is that many tabs are the international model and also the fact that it is a very expensive device to own. If I where you I would just learn to love the current ROM we have which it's pretty good. Also please take a look at this article on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892009
Once you read this hopefully you will realize another reason why there so few roms available
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Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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onebornoflight said:
Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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Maybe XDA has a personal issue with phones with QWERTY keyboards.
We encountered this issue on my previous qwerty device also and believe me we almost got top 2 on the voting thread for new devices yet till now it still don't have any forum of its own. I already asked and the reason why it didn't get its own forum was not because of the lack of the community but instead the lack of real developers to support the device. To quote what the mod I talked to he said that
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
Guys try www.sdx-developers.com its a Samsung hacking site
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That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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onebornoflight said:
The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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At least he replied to you...
Lol I never got a reply
gtmaster303 said:
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Now that XDA isn't accommodating, creating a dev section for the device there might just be what that site needs to bring it back to life
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gtmaster303 said:
That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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strapped365 said:
Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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gtmaster303 said:
1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
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This makes a whole lot of sense.
strapped365 said:
1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Thanks. Although I don't agree with you completely, it's good to know you didn't go rogue on me all of a sudden. If xda wants ad revenue, they would be creating ads for every device out. Although I don't understand why they won't readily create a forum for a device that clearly needs it. I don't agree with their logic. If there's even one dev for a device, a forum should be made. That's like saying "we'll only host the most popular of devices." By that token, popularity should not ensue. And under that jurisdiction, technically the Doubleshot shouldn't exist here either. Our community is quite small, even for a dev community. Most of the daily page hits xda gets from us are the same couple dozen people, some of which login multiple times per day (because they have no life, myself included )
But popularity of the site is still necessary. not that many people know about sdx. When they look for a new phone to buy (devs and modders alike) most will come to xda and poke around to see if the activity is up to their liking. If not, they'll probably search for a new device. Main reason why I haven't switched over to a Captivate Glide or a Droid 4...
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I must be weird then as I bought my device because
1. It was the closest thing to a G3 on the market and
2. I was (and still am) angry with and done with HTC after the lack of ICS on the doubleshot.
Oh and 3. My DS died;(
Nonetheless if we decide to move to that other site I'll have to get an android app for it lol.
I'm growing disgruntled with XDA lately but its kinda like a drug for me... and strapped... this device stock is just about equivalent to my ds when it died with regards to ease of use and overall response. I DO miss a trackpad and the home button lags just a bit... but that could be me having an aftermarket launcher with touchwiz frozen but not uninstalled.
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They weren't only used to discuss availability. Very bad over moderating, tut tut. Please unlock uk thread or direct me to uk specific thread which discusses new colour and 32gb/64gb availability, carrier specific questions, where to find good uk deals, uk firmware, etc......all in one place.
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I agree, found it quite useful for local information,
I understand some of the reasoning behind it but even if they were becoming too big to find information, someone could just post their region specific question in that thread and one of the regular visitors would help out. Saves another new thread being started. Plus they are a great way to track regional changes and progress of the life of the gs4 in a specific country, if you has time to read start to finish.
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Enough said OP, totally agree with you. I hope moderators would change their mind.
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Simple, you just don't argue with moderators.. They possess the power to send you on a nice vacation.
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Totally agreed. They were extremely useful.
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It wasn't completely off topic, the Australian one was in discussion of a few things, one I was following was the best modem for the Optus carrier
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Theshawty said:
Simple, you just don't argue with moderators.. They possess the power to send you on a nice vacation.
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This isn't North Korea, I am sure the moderators can accept constructive, opinions and the requests from users of this forum. This isn't trolling, this is a genuine sentiment which is going to be shared by other users. They were useful threads for those who followed them.
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owgees said:
This isn't North Korea, I am sure the moderators can accept constructive, opinions and the requests from users of this forum. This isn't trolling, this is a genuine sentiment which is going to be shared by other users. They were useful threads for those who followed them.
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Obviously you'll have people thinking otherwise and I think I'm one of them. They were cluttering the general section.
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Theshawty said:
Obviously you'll have people thinking otherwise and I think I'm one of them. They were cluttering the general section.
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Then say that, not rhetoric about being banned. In response to clutter, far better have region specific threads than new ones each time one provider gets updated and another doesn't, or three threads excitedly taking about a new gs4 model released in a certain country. It does the exact opposite of clutter
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The thread opened again, si XDA is not North Korea then LOL
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Theshawty said:
Obviously you'll have people thinking otherwise and I think I'm one of them. They were cluttering the general section.
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if cluttering is the issue then it can be put into a rolling sticky inside a single thread isnt it?
Its advantages overcome the disadvantages to be frank, say for example
*if i were about to ask a question related to free sview covers samsung is providing in india where should i ask for the progress ,status and opinions?
* if a service provider in india has issues with s4 , say its temporarily down where can i ask for the opinion,status etc?
* If there is a new user coming into the thread and if he/she can see their country thread they feel like home and they can ask for questions or atleast move a bit social.
More can be said, but i dont want to make it biggy , I still beleive the moderation commitee will have fair hearing once again. But whatever the final verdict, its upto them to decide
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For bala (and continuing further )...
I used to go directly to Indian Offic.....thread to know the updates, accessories, availability, roms, and other regional info ...but now after closing these ...i am feeling stranded.....
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Please suggest me if i want to know/discuss about the exact price of galaxy s4 in India/Australia/Etc ..then where should i go......if i am planing to visit UK THEN wouldn UK specfic thread be more useful to clear doubts... ...or in such conditions should i open new topic for this???...no way
I think ...after this action...there is more chance of new threads to be opened for small querries..every second..this may cause more cluttering which will need more thread cleaning process...
I Politely request Moderators to consider little bit attention about my opinion...
Thanks XDA & @LL
Please re open the Brazilian Thread.... We change a lot of useful information there!
Thanks!
owgees said:
I understand some of the reasoning behind it but even if they were becoming too big to find information, someone could just post their region specific question in that thread and one of the regular visitors would help out. Saves another new thread being started. Plus they are a great way to track regional changes and progress of the life of the gs4 in a specific country, if you has time to read start to finish.
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This!! This alone made the region specific threads worth it. Please bring them back
You only have to look at the numbers of replies in the Ireland/UK topic to understand it was heavily used where a number of members would come to find out any info on their area phones.
I personally found it of great value and am very surprised it was closed without any other topic of it's kind being brought into use....
The trouble is by closing this one single topic it will in turn now create many, many other topics of greater problematic use.
I've owned all the Samsung models (S1, S2, S3, S3 4g and now S4) and country specific threads have been around for all of them.
I followed the Aussie threads for all those models. It will be a pain now searching for all Aussie related info. One thread will now become a hundred.
Why this decision now?
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Moderator should understand what needed and not.dont just simply closing thread that lot of views and comment.its mean the threat is usefull.check out other threat like s2.note.note2...they also having country specific threat and stil not closing by their moderator.i m not complaining bout moderator decision but this time i think this is not a right decision...with specific country threat..new comer and new bie easily asking for other member from their country coz its more friendly to them.others thing..every country have their own internet network provider,not same so in country specific threat they can discuss about it.hope moderator thinking again bout their decision.ty
Soooooo, any chance of unlocking the UK/IRE thread...
+1 on this this is where we discuss region specific releases. Philippines thread has a healthy topic
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I have been starting to compile a list of ROMs that are not found on XDA for the clark (Pure/Style)... Note that due to some of the authors preference, there are no threads here, so out of respect this is just a pointer, not a discussion or support area for these ROMs, please use their official areas.
Here is a couple, know of anymore???
BrokenOS - Download link removed per BrokenOS FAQ
ZephyrOS - Downloads
NOTE: This thread does not supply links to ROM builds if it is specifically requested by the ROM owner, and we do not provide support for any ROM, or even reviews, it is just a reference to point you in the right direction to take care of things yourself. Do not PM me or any other person here about these ROMs. The owners of these ROMs do not post them here for a reason, this is just a reference so you can find them and it is not my intent to circumvent their reasons for not posting them here, or question their reasons.
BrokenOS may not appreciate you linking their ROM on XDA.
See attached pic.
It's what I run and their Google+ page is pretty particular about this.
I've never tried the Zephyr you linked.
Someone seems to not understand how the internets work.
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BrokenOS may not appreciate you linking their ROM on XDA.
See attached pic.
It's what I run and their Google+ page is pretty particular about this.
I've never tried the Zephyr you linked.
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I removed the download link, but I believe link to their main site is acceptable.
Zephyr I just found browsing AFH's clark area, really know nothing about it.
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This thread is a terrible idea.
Do you think the developers of those ROMs are somehow unaware of XDA's existence?
any review on BrokenOS @CZ Eddie?
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This thread is a terrible idea.
Do you think the developers of those ROMs are somehow unaware of XDA's existence?
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No, of course not... But many users of XDA are unaware of any these ROMs or how to look for them, or even if they should. My point is not to support or discuss these ROMs, that is best left for their official channels, but to make users aware there are options outside of XDA because many users think XDA has everything, and although it is a great resource, it is hardly all encompassing.
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any review on BrokenOS @CZ Eddie?
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This is not a thread to discuss or even review these ROMs, its only purpose is to make users who wouldn't otherwise know, aware of their existence.
It is a topic I tread lightly with... I do not want to step on people's toes but many people would never know some of these existed unless referred to somehow.
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I asked because he/she stated thats what they use. I wanted to know how it was.
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many people would never know some of these existed unless referred to somehow.
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And those are the people the developers went out of their way to exclude.
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And those are the people the developers went out of their way to exclude.
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Actually, I don't think that's the case... Some developers just dislike XDA.
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It's ridiculous in the first place to publicly release a rom online and expect to keep the community limited. Obviously people will find it and share it on other more popular sites.
If these developers really wanted full control over their userbase their roms wouldn't be easily found through google searches.
It's on Google Plus. Available to anyone with a Google account.
They aren't hiding their ROM's from the public.
Not everyone likes XDA's rules and regulations.
I've been upset with XDA myself but never enough to leave.
Developers have even more strict rules to abide by and some dev's leave for various reasons.
XDA isn't the only Android community you know.
ROM development goes on at plenty of other websites.
I'm not sure why some of you don't understand that.
I'm not pointing at the OP btw, I for one appreciate the thread intentions.
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Btw, I trust ROM's from XDA more than other sites, specifically because of XDA's strict rules about open sourcing, etc.
I'm only on Broken ROM because I'm familiar with the team's development for a long time.
Otherwise I would not run any ROM from any other site.
Keeping your development closed source is not automatic grounds for suspicion but it does make a person wonder.
Someone asked for a review of Broken.
To someone who knows nothing about developing (me), it's 99% the same thing as Dirty Unicorn's ROM but uses the newer version of Layers instead of DU's CM theming. And it has more built in themed stuff. But options-wise it's very similar.
I won't talk about performance, battery or stability because it's all subjective and XDA does not like that type of comparison discussion because it's stupid and I agree with that.
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Actually, I don't think that's the case... Some developers just dislike XDA.
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My impression is that the average IQ of XDA has dropped precipitously over the last few years, making threads here a never ending stream of the same, usually stupid, questions.
I wasn't aware that the rules here were particularly restrictive.
This thread is a nice idea, but if I was a dev running away from the general populace here, I'd be pissed at someone redirecting their numbskullery at me.
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My impression is that the average IQ of XDA has dropped precipitously over the last few years, making threads here a never ending stream of the same, usually stupid, questions.
I wasn't aware that the rules here were particularly restrictive.
This thread is a nice idea, but if I was a dev running away from the general populace here, I'd be pissed at someone redirecting their numbskullery at me.
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If a dev wanted to control who knows about, or talks about their ROM it would be easy... A site that requires a login and approval by them. I know of some of these "ghosts", but I won't link them (it wouldn't apply to this device anyway).
The two I linked are easy to find... BrokenOS specifically requests not to have their ROMs linked or distributed on any other site, and I did not do this, that is the only request I found, and their builds are clearly available on AFH. Zephyr OS is all over XDA, just no thread for our device, but someone is building it and I ran across it in AFH we'll browsing the Clark section.
These are good roms that the average user wouldn't know of otherwise, and if a legitimate rep for either asked for it to removed, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Can't disagree with the general quality or apparently low IQ of many new users, when a simple search would answer many of these questions.
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I'd be pissed at someone redirecting their numbskullery at me.
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I laughed
Tesla...i could have swore I saw links to one for Clark once but have since vanished.. Would be really nice to see paranoid android make its way
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Tesla...i could have swore I saw links to one for Clark once but have since vanished.. Would be really nice to see paranoid android make its way
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There is an unofficial Telsa build on Ground Zero ROMs G+ page in the unofficial section from about 6 weeks ago, but it looks like it had some issues and was never cleaned up or finished. Too bad, Tesla/Tipsy/Validus are great ROMs and super stable.
Paranoid Android is weird... years ago there were once builds for everything and it was often used as a base ROM for other builds, but now they have about 25 official devices and other than that I don't know, their website is pretty bad and there are no unofficial build listed at all, definitely no Clark build so far.
I don't think either is worth linking in the first post.
Is this broken rom decent? Not trying to read 5000 pages to find out general info about this ROM
I just downloaded and flashed it tonight. So far so good. Only thing I miss is ad blocking for YouTube. Other that it's very smooth and has advanced lte.
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