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Community issues: Campaign for a fresh start

Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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constructive crticism welscome
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
P.S.
if issues are not resolved then it never will be as no one will accept blame and any such thread will eventually result in blame game.
right now see that people are just paying attention to information,now calling them for campaign is also a distraction.

btpd21 said:
Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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rohit3192 said:
i am sure that neo will close this thread as this is not required.
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
plz ask Neo to close this thread.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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Hey, thanks for sharing your opinion with me in a respectful manner. However, I feel that the issue is not yet resolved, and the general forum is definitely the appropriate place to post it. The development is virtually at a standstill and I am not talking about gtg, but the other devs and would be devs who are now discouraged. I find that although your response was polite, it was completely inappropriate, especially considering what my original post stated. If you have an issue with my posts please message in private as opposed to calling me out/ racking up your post count.
Corvette Dave said:
Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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Thank you for your support! I appreciate it.
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I doubt the devs read half the crap, and know that most if the quiet folks really enjoy there work, and in no means are they scared to
release there work, but rather punish and don't release, which its necessary to shut alt of people up, can always find them on irc
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I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?

NeoS2007 said:
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Neo just as you posted this I was editing my post in this thread.
I was concerned that this thread doesn't become a place for blaming other members or finding faults of others.as long as this stands for supporting devs my vote is there.
Right now I think forum is going well

NeoS2007 said:
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
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I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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nash2000 said:
I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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I will flag this to our admins, so it can be looked into. Thanks for your feedback.

jayson94538 said:
I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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My app shows the Q&A section. But it didn't until I reinstalled. Had to reinstall it after I put CM7 on.

To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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apallohadas said:
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Heh well that worked. Thank you.
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NeoS2007 said:
I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Thanks for your support. Is there a way we could mark our bad posts to be deleted without reporting ourselves?
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I think alot of people like myself are new android users. I knew nothing 3 months ago about Android then I got the infuse my first smartphone which seems like its a lot of peoples first android. So I admit I posted questions then went and found the answer when I got no replies. I think people just need to understand that this is very fresh for a lot of people. It was ridiculous on gtg's post but on the other hand people got so angry at othrs that knew very little.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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You don't even have to unsubscribe just subscribe again (referring to the xda app)
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And I think another reason why we see a lot of similar topics being posted especially regarding support is because new users (like myself) feel we need support about our specific situation, even tho we may have already read a similar thrend. Its happened to me were I posted help and either ill get a smart reply ie "its been posted 10 times already" or they may reply with a link. The link will be exactly what I've already read but, the thrend doesn't 100% pertain to my situation so I'm afraid I may mess up even more if I follow those steps (its actually already happened,my first brick) This is why we may see a lot of repeat thrends. I usually will encourage my support giver to pm me but I hardly receive any.
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Why not have a separate section for rom support? I realize that sounds goofy but in the rom thread could be development related questions and in support section help and tech support?
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Well, xda-developers is for... DEVELOPERS. Although most people on xda are in it for the custom roms and leeching of apps.
I agree there should be some kind of a "noob sandbox" where new users can ask their questions and get answers from more seasoned users/devs. But how do you guys propose we do that?

Comparing phones and what YOU think is best and why

So my other thread got closed for no reason at all. I am simply wanting opinions on phones and why PEOPLE think is best...this is for helping ME out into getting my next phone. It helps getting info from people here since people here are pretty smart in knowing software specs n all...as of right now I'm open to ANY phone, ANY UI. I'm open to ALL opinions and would like to know why you think and feel it is a great phone...not necessarily the best phone. Hopefully this thread can stay open since I'm not doing anything wrong. Thanks
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Many posts have been closed because there are many, many more just like this. I understand you want some help and opinions, but use the search feature and you'll find answers
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Your other thread was closed due to it´s placed in the wrong section and redundant, same as this one.
Please read the rules and post in proper sections

Few roms

What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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acc_kareemomar said:
What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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Because whiners never prosper.

acc_kareemomar said:
What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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Firstly, One solution would be for you to post in the correct forum Q&A would be better..........
Secondly, you could always learn to and build and develop a ROM from scratch yourself. I did !!
I feel your post is a "slap in the face" to all contributing in this forum! Complaining is not constructive!
Many of us have other 'lives' outside XDA. It takes an awful lot of reading, research, setup, trial and many errors of testing, patience, TIME, and all of the above many times over and over.
We are not paid to share what we've created/cooked/kanged/modded/themed etc, we give back to the community because we enjoy it, not because we are obliged to do so.

acc_kareemomar said:
What is the reason for this lack of roms and most of the roms are similar
Why we can't get miui and other roms?
can any developer answer me on this?
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Your questions should be addressed in the Q&A section, not in the development section

Questions belong in the Q&A forum. Thread has been moved.
UpInTheAir said:
Firstly, One solution would be for you to post in the correct forum Q&A would be better..........
Secondly, you could always learn to and build and develop a ROM from scratch yourself. I did !!
I feel your post is a "slap in the face" to all contributing in this forum! Complaining is not constructive!
Many of us have other 'lives' outside XDA. It takes an awful lot of reading, research, setup, trial and many errors of testing, patience, TIME, and all of the above many times over and over.
We are not paid to share what we've created/cooked/kanged/modded/themed etc, we give back to the community because we enjoy it, not because we are obliged to do so.
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Also, OP, please read this post. they makes very good points that should be understood by everyone that uses this site. Thanks

Another big reason is the fact that the P6800 is not widely available in the USA, Verizon does carry the 7.7 but that model will always be the last one to get development if any. Another reason is that many tabs are the international model and also the fact that it is a very expensive device to own. If I where you I would just learn to love the current ROM we have which it's pretty good. Also please take a look at this article on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892009
Once you read this hopefully you will realize another reason why there so few roms available
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Getting a forum for a new device.

Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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onebornoflight said:
Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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Maybe XDA has a personal issue with phones with QWERTY keyboards.

We encountered this issue on my previous qwerty device also and believe me we almost got top 2 on the voting thread for new devices yet till now it still don't have any forum of its own. I already asked and the reason why it didn't get its own forum was not because of the lack of the community but instead the lack of real developers to support the device. To quote what the mod I talked to he said that
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.

Guys try www.sdx-developers.com its a Samsung hacking site
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That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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onebornoflight said:
The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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At least he replied to you...
Lol I never got a reply

gtmaster303 said:
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Now that XDA isn't accommodating, creating a dev section for the device there might just be what that site needs to bring it back to life
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gtmaster303 said:
That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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strapped365 said:
Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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gtmaster303 said:
1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Riyal said:
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
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This makes a whole lot of sense.

strapped365 said:
1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Thanks. Although I don't agree with you completely, it's good to know you didn't go rogue on me all of a sudden. If xda wants ad revenue, they would be creating ads for every device out. Although I don't understand why they won't readily create a forum for a device that clearly needs it. I don't agree with their logic. If there's even one dev for a device, a forum should be made. That's like saying "we'll only host the most popular of devices." By that token, popularity should not ensue. And under that jurisdiction, technically the Doubleshot shouldn't exist here either. Our community is quite small, even for a dev community. Most of the daily page hits xda gets from us are the same couple dozen people, some of which login multiple times per day (because they have no life, myself included )
But popularity of the site is still necessary. not that many people know about sdx. When they look for a new phone to buy (devs and modders alike) most will come to xda and poke around to see if the activity is up to their liking. If not, they'll probably search for a new device. Main reason why I haven't switched over to a Captivate Glide or a Droid 4...
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I must be weird then as I bought my device because
1. It was the closest thing to a G3 on the market and
2. I was (and still am) angry with and done with HTC after the lack of ICS on the doubleshot.
Oh and 3. My DS died;(
Nonetheless if we decide to move to that other site I'll have to get an android app for it lol.
I'm growing disgruntled with XDA lately but its kinda like a drug for me... and strapped... this device stock is just about equivalent to my ds when it died with regards to ease of use and overall response. I DO miss a trackpad and the home button lags just a bit... but that could be me having an aftermarket launcher with touchwiz frozen but not uninstalled.
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We are not support site..threat will closed by moderator

As forum moderator johny said at this post why closing region specific threat....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2379194
(Check his last comment before closing threat)
We are not support site...developer site.so for me simple..for new bie..dont ask for support from xdadeveloper s4 threat...moderator dont like to support....Remember that.
If no support..you must be a developer to join s4 threat because s4 threat no more for new bie.its a developer site only..Remember that.
I know i ll be banned because my statement but android itself open source..so for me moderator must thinking how xdadeveloper become popular...because all of us.
Can i ask s4 moderator...why other model moderator keep region specific threat and only s4 moderator do this...Many voice vs 1.think about it.if all moderator from all model keep the threat and making xdadeveloper more popular why some of you try to ruined it with the power given.....
Remember...you also new bie when 1st joined xdadeveloper.
Thank you moderator.Sorry for my rude comment and threat.

Sorry for his threat mods. I wonder what Hitler would've said about this. I agree with this guy though. Regional threads also minimize silly thread creations like availability and pricing regional information, variants available etc.
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I agree with you 100%.
I don't really like Jonny's methods.. This guy is closing threads whenever he feels like it.
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Well xda traffic have been certainly decreasing. So if this is mods' intention, they are doing good at it.
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though i agree with you guys., what's done is done.. let's respect the mods' decision.. i'm sure they are doing this with fair intentions..
and there are tons of alternative for this... create an official FB page which almost all countries have now anyways.. (though not all uses FB like me)
even a better idea is to create a google group discussion for each country and we can do the talking there... (im sure all of us has google accounts)
then create a sticky thread here with the links to all google groups discussion thread for each country... and we can communicate better since we can talk using our native language..
i just made a test group HERE and see if it works for me and my fellow Filipinos and use this as a Philippine S4 thread aternative...
maybe other people can follow suit and see if this works for them too..
P.S. - easiest way to access your gg is to bookmark the group's page using your browser...

NadMaj said:
though i agree with you guys., what's done is done.. let's respect the mods' decision.. i'm sure they are doing this with fair intentions..
and there are tons of alternative for this... create an official FB page which almost all countries have now anyways.. (though not all uses FB like me)
even a better idea is to create a google group discussion for each country and we can do the talking there... (im sure all of us has google accounts)
then create a sticky thread here with the links to all google groups discussion thread for each country... and we can communicate better since we can talk using our native language..
i just made a test group HERE and see if it works for me and my fellow Filipinos and use this as a Philippine S4 thread aternative...
maybe other people can follow suit and see if this works for them too..
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Great idea mate. Now, all our problem is how we can inform our fellow countrymen about this one.
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EtienneBordeaux said:
Great idea mate. Now, all our problem is how we can inform our fellow countrymen about this one.
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yeah and another one is to find an easier way to use google groups using your device.. i'm testing now and so far i can only access it using gmail app or browser..
EDIT: easiest way to access your gg is to bookmark the group's page using your browser...

Here join this https://facebook.com/groups/1402750229937488
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Not everyone accesses fb!!! :|

As far as I can see the threads aren't closed...
A few people are kicking up a stink about having to bypass a couple extra lines.... Don't understand why considering not every thread grabs my attention either but I'm sure as heck not gonna ask for it to be removed... The fact these threads keep popping back up means there is a need and want for these threads.
How hard is it to bypass a thread you don't want to look at, honestly....

It mustn't be easy being a mod. If you don't do anything, anarchy arises and people start to complain. If you do something and it's not appreciated, anarchy arises and people start to complain..
You really think the mods do what they do absent intention?
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Advertiser will look for daily traffic volume if wanna advertise their advertisement.More traffic means higher price.So for me xdadeveloper also want their webpage to get higher traffic so what is the problem now..
The problems is mods...If all mods from all forum sit back and discuss about this..i m sure majority will not like our s4 mods decision.
Most important thing We keep threat clean and clean up by mods.
S4 also as we know got many variant...i9500,i9505,i9505G,i9506 and etc so specific regional threat is important to discuss many thing.
Opssss:We are not support site..so no need all those threat.Please close all QA threat because they come for support and mods dont like to support.

Theshawty said:
It mustn't be easy being a mod. If you don't do anything, anarchy arises and people start to complain. If you do something and it's not appreciated, anarchy arises and people start to complain..
You really think the mods do what they do absent intention?
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yeah agree with you mate... it was clearly explained in this post..
and this isn't the correct way of stating one's opinion if they don't agree with the mods' decision..
they can just pm someone from the mod committee for re-consideration..
they're just buying themselves a ticket to bansville..
orgpening said:
Advertiser will look for daily traffic volume if wanna advertise their advertisement.More traffic means higher price.So for me xdadeveloper also want their webpage to get higher traffic so what is the problem now..
The problems is mods...If all mods from all forum sit back and discuss about this..i m sure majority will not like our s4 mods decision.
Most important thing We keep threat clean and clean up by mods.
S4 also as we know got many variant...i9500,i9505,i9505G,i9506 and etc so specific regional threat is important to discuss many thing.
Opssss:We are not support site..so no need all those threat.Please close all QA threat because they come for support and mods dont like to support.
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again., read this post..
it says there that it's been discussed a million times and it's been planned out... so let's be open-minded and not blame the moderators.. they're just doing their jobs...

beston94 said:
I agree with you 100%.
I don't really like Jonny's methods.. This guy is closing threads whenever he feels like it.
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I didn't even close a single country specific thread ya troll... I close threads that have either run their course (as in the one this is about) or that break the forum rules.
If you don't agree with my actions, feel free to take it up with the moderator committee.
Oh and p.s
Thread closed :victory: