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Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
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Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
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I think you'll find, that it is the other way around. All Winmo devices, going ack to 2002, have had locked bootloaders that will only accept a Signed ROM. Someone will develop a Hard SPL type system and all will be happy
Oh, and moved to General as not Rom Dev
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Every other manufacturer already does this, htc was the best. Now they think they are selling enough phones to screw over the dev community, and it seems Sony Ericsson is taking up the mantle for the dev community.
I for one an very disappointed in htc for this. Was holding off for this phone, but may now go the atrix, both are locked so why not get better spec'd phone and hope its cracked. Or go the Xperia arc, at least I know the bootloader will be open
Very disappointed htc, just wanted you to know that
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I thought HTC has been locking their bootloaders for over a year now?
Incredible S is locked, as is the Desire S (I believe) - the Sensation isn't the first
They have been locking their bootloaders, but not encrypting or signing them in any way, it seems now they are
Which makes me ask, Why? They have been doing so well with android devices why act like douches now
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HTC has always locked bootloaders. If the phone is popular enough they will break it. The question is is it encrypted. Which is most likely not. All we need most likely is an engineering build then wala the gates will be open. Every one thought the g2 was unrootable then one day permanent root.
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HTC has always locked bootloaders. If the phone is popular enough they will break it. The question is is it encrypted. Which is most likely not. All we need most likely is an engineering build then wala the gates will be open. Every one thought the g2 was unrootable then one day permanent root.
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I thought it was supposed to be the case that it is highly likely to be encrypted or so it appears to be at this stage. They seem to be making increasing efforts to make sure people are not able to tamper with the OS on it.
I beloved the reason they lock bootloaders is to stop the steady flow of people bricking their devices then calling in to get them replaced... seperating people who can read and follow simple directions from those who can't
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Most htc android phones have locked bootloader
Signed code is required since htc desire(i believe nexus one was the last phone that can write unsign code to recovery even with s-on).From desire to desire hd, it was through different exploits to enable s-off. All older exploits are gone since incredible s.
is the optimus 2x locked?
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is the optimus 2x locked?
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Yes, locked but I believe not signed or encrypted. And I also believe it has already been hacked
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Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
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Whats the deal with Motorola phones? Aren't they totally locked?
Part of the problem is irresponsible idiots bricking their phones then sending them in for replacements. Furthermore, and probably the most significant reason: that irresponsible people at tethering too much.
I for one love XDA. However, as it becomes more popular and easier for the layman to hack his phone, the development community becomes a greater threat to manufacturers and wireless providers
LG G2X or Sony for me!
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Whats the deal with Motorola phones? Aren't they totally locked?
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My Atrix is signed. Eff moto.
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Stop locking bootloader's and you will probably have less people bricking devices.
Or Sony Ericsson's new way of unlocking bootloader, send IMEI to them to unlock. At least that way they know who unlocked and can enforce warranty voiding fairly
We buy the device, we pay, its OUR device, if we want to hack it, then screw you (insert manufacturer) we can, stop telling us what we can and can't do with OUR property
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Get a Desire HD, simple
g2x
i was thinking of getting the sensation but i hate the thought of them dicking with the boot loader and all the sense bloat so i got a g2x and i could not be happier rooted the day it came out this phone is blazing fast patiently waiting for some cm7 love
I hate how everyone is thinking a bootloader is the end of the road for the sensation. It will be hacked. No ifs ands or buts about it. The sensation is going to be an amazing phone with or without a boot loader. If you want to get a diff phone, that's your loss. But don't tell us your getting a different phone on the sensation's forum. No one cares about your lack of trust in the devs here. I'm getting one and you should too.
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@sbryan12144, I wanna believe you dude but if you look at the Incredible S bootloader situation, it doesn't look too good for the Sensation. Unless HTC uses a different method and it's easier to crack.
Not being able to root is a deal breaker for me (I sold the IS because of that) and it's what makes Android better in my opinion! (custom ROMs, themes, etc...)
The Sensation is not what you want.This device may fall under the category with the Droid X and the Atrix. There is barely any support for either device. I suggest you ride it out with the G2X because support and roms will come in a bundle sooner or later. The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I am too. Ill have to see what happens.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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The atrix is motorola's flagship phone as well.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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Yep and look at it now.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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No because the only reason the THunderbolt was unlocked was because of a leaked old ROM that wasn't locked down. Total luck.
I just came from an atrix and there is one dev cooking roms. (He has two). While they were both awesome its not a whole lot...we have more development here in two weeks then they had in 3 months. The atrix has more ram which is its only advantage....I always had like 700 mb ram available.....so for me the extra ram didn't benefit me. I was tempted to get the nexus s due to it being pure google but the fact that its a samsung phone (had alot of problems with galaxy s) and with dual core phones coming out I figured I would skip it. The g2x is what the nexus s should have shipped with. Dual core tegra.
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Motorola was a big name in Android because of the $100MM in marketing they and Verizon spent to put Android on the map with the "Droid does" campaign. Once HTC and Samsung got with the program Motorola's market share has been steadily declining. They're also primarily a North American player where Samsung and HTC are global. Both the SGS2 and Sensation will each individually sell more units than the entire Motorola Android product line. Spec wise the Atrix is a good comparison but sales and acceptance wise not so much. I at least give them credit for going back to the drawing board on the Bionic rather than launching what would have been an already dated phone.
Assuming all future Samsung and HTC phones are based off the internals of the SGS2 and Sensation, the impact of what you're saying is devs are going to stop working on Samsung and HTC phones. I find that hard to accept. Especially when the SGS2 and Sensation (and their derivatives) are expected to sell in the millions of units. Only time will tell.
I've had my G2 since the day it came out and its the best smartphone, and Android phone I've ever had. Despite the little quirks the G2 has that somewhat bother me,I love the look and the fact that the keyboard is amazing. BUT, I'm going to be making the switch to the Sensation when it comes out.
1) I've always wanted a large screen phone. I envy people with a Evo despite my phone will out perform it anyday. I feel like with a 4.3 inch ill be happy no matter what. Playing games will be better especially with the large screen, and the dual core of course will be great too. Eventhough the G2's keyboard is amazingly awesome, I know the larger screen will make up for not having one and ill finally be able to get really handy with Swype.
2) the hardware on the phone is amazing. The dual core is going to be amazingly fast and I feel the phone will gather a large dev community and the roms, kernels etc will be be vast. Not to mention Sense 3.0 is beautiful and will be great to use evenwhen other roms are available.
3) I work for best buy, so the discount will be enough for me to buy outright (or else I wouldn't buy haha).
What about you?
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I'm not sure.. I just came from the G2x and was really in love with it minus the F'ed up screen. I'm thinking about holding out for a similar G2 with Dual Core or even Quad Core capability. This G2 is so nice after fixing the hinge. I'm very satisfied.
Coming from an N900 I've always thought I had to had a keyboard and but after using Swype, HTC IME and every other onscreen keyboard featured I end up using the onscreen 90% of the time anyway.
Now on to the reason I'm getting the Sensation.. my best bud and gadget rival got a Thunderbolt and the G2 looks puny compared to it! Haha.
I'm a big fan of 4.3" form factor after having my HD2. In fact at 10 months was the longest I ever owned a phone. I still consider it ergonomically the best phone I've ever used (for me). I've been waiting for something similar in Android form to come out to Tmo for quite a while. G2 was really a stop gap for me waiting for a 4.3" Tmo phone.
I'm tempted by the Sensation...
I find myself only using the desire Z keyboard for long emails, otherwise the onscreen keyboard does the job nice.
I already have a Bluetooth keyboard and as the Sensation supports the Bluetooth HID profile, i'm hoping that I would be able to use that with the Sensation.
The big screen is definitely appealing!
you have tot think its not only a 4.3 incher, but it has a qhd screen. for seem this seems like this could be as big as when the evo launcher. just because its the first phone with sense 3.0 and all of these yummy specs. and someone referring to having a phone with dual core, and a slide out keyboard i think youll probably be in luck. though its not the next g2, it is the mytouch 4g slide and it has alot of the goodies the sensation has plus a slide out. i can imagine a g3 will be in the works considering how fast phones are developing these days.
Wonder when we can expect the g3 if possible...i would probably pass on the sensation atm.
I am interested in it, but I will wait for a few weeks to get it because there are bound to be glitches and problems with it.
Locked bootloader = no dice
HTC was once a great but SE is looking the best for Android now. HW isn't much currently but hell, they give you the option to unlock the bootloader and even instructions to make your own kernel.
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Locked bootloader = no dice
HTC was once a great but SE is looking the best for Android now. HW isn't much currently but hell, they give you the option to unlock the bootloader and even instructions to make your own kernel.
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exactly. as soon as I see that they locked the bootloader, I just have nothing else to say... I wish they would continue doing what they did way back when and not worry about what rom we put on our phone. it's not like we're reverse engineering the phone to create a clone of the actual device and software to sell for profits.
This forum is only now starting to hit it's stride. It will be ages before the sensation forum can even come close to what our devs have done here. And for someone like me, that is just as important as the actual phone hardware itself.
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This forum is only now starting to hit it's stride. It will be ages before the sensation forum can even come close to what our devs have done here. And for someone like me, that is just as important as the actual phone hardware itself.
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Have to agree, but even though the Sensation will come all locked up, it's still the first dual core HTC phone. There will be a lot of people with it.
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Have to agree, but even though the Sensation will come all locked up, it's still the first dual core HTC phone. There will be a lot of people with it.
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Did anyone ever crack any of the motorola locked bootloaders? Last I heard no one ever did and genius's have been working on that for years with bounties worth 1000s. If this is anything like that its gonna be a dead end. Nothing but roms based on the stock with slight tweaks. Not interested.
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Did anyone ever crack any of the motorola locked bootloaders? Last I heard no one ever did and genius's have been working on that for years with bounties worth 1000s. If this is anything like that its gonna be a dead end. Nothing but roms based on the stock with slight tweaks. Not interested.
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We should wait and see what happens with the Incredible S.
i def know what youre saying with the sign bootloader. from what ive read, its not nearly as bad the moto bootloaders. i know there was an issue with the thunderbolt being locked..but whadda know! its unlocked, and roms are being flashed, etc. the g2 took quite some time before it was officially rooted. i have high hopes for the sensation being unlocked and from what ive read throughout websites that others do too. regardless of the bootloader ever being cracked, the phone is amazing with everything it offers and ill be getting it anyway. the new sense is going to be AMAZING, and itll hold me over until the phone is rooted.
So I have an upgrade coming in the second week of june, I have the my touch 4g but my my touch slide is eligible for the 2 year upgrade. Do I get the g2x, wait and see if the sensation comes out when its supposed to, or sick with my touch 4g? Or even possible see if the galaxy s2 comes to tmobile? Just want done opinions! Thanks!
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Not another one of these threads...
I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
Say no to sense
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I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
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Engadget had a post today saying that HTC was considering unlocking the bootloader.
In a market where the (good) phones are currently even so far as specs are concerned, a company would be shooting themselves in the foot by restricting a system that the others are leaving open.
My 2 cents.
My other 2 cents is if you can wait, then wait. Play with the Sensation when it comes out. You like it, buy it. You don't, buy the G2x.
My last bit of change, if you are content for the time being with the phone you have, don't jump for either until at least a month after the Sensation has come out. Right now, the G2x user experience for the majority of us is frustrating and I can only imagine the Sensation will be the same. Just wait and see what comes of both of them.
Get all of them!!!!! :d:d:d:d:d
I posted a TON of information why I didn't like the Sensation. The encrypted locked bootloader was high on the list but here are others:
-The Tegra 2 is like 33% more powerful then the dual-core snapdragon
-HDMI/microUSB = No HDMI Out + Charging (since no TV's support the MDLP yet)
-Locked encrypted Bootloader + New Sense = Mercy of HTC for bug fixes
-NVidia pushing devs for enhanced Tegra Apps = No go on non-Tegra devices
-Lower Res Front Camera
It does look like a sexy phone though. We'll see what problems it has out of the box compared to the G2x.
The G2x does have its problems but Tegra chips are new. Most work pretty well out of the box. Most of the issues we have is from the phone shipping with a 2.2 Kernel and everyone is flashing the leaked 2.3.3 rom. The drivers and stuff get funky but we're expected to get an updated kernel soon (the OS was already leaked).
I would agree though that I would wait a few weeks. While the G2x is great, it would be best to know your options to what best suites you. The Sensation is due out soon and you can compare the two side-by-side.
If the bootloader was unlocked, I could "possibly" live with the other stuff.
Wait and see what our big gingerbread update looks like on the g2x because like someone said before, this has been a frustrating experience so far... once we get that bad boy out and assuming it is a stable, quality build with much better driver support then the sky is the limit with this device! it will be the tegra2 flagship phone for the next 18 months
few things about the sensation that bothered me from my n1, and this is an HTC issue, their external speakers are a joke to say the least, poorly positioned, horrible sound, never loud enough... the g2x's external speaker is pretty solid in my opinion. And the HTC cameras are nothing to brag about either. I saw a video of both phones doing 1080p recording and the Sensation had a horrible red-shift problem...
number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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Honestly, I love this phone but the lack of custom ROMs is starting to annoy me. I want a damn MIUI ROM or at least something other than CM7 and EaglesBlood (I love AOSP though but MIUI on top of AOSP would be perfect). HTC phones always seem to end up with the most development behind them and their touch panels are some of the most sensitive in the industry (quite unlike the G2x which annoys the hell out of me sometimes with how hard I have to press on it). I think the tides will start to turn on HTC development though with the locked bootloaders.
That said, between HTC, LG, and Samsung - I'd pick the Samsung. For one, HTC uses Snapdragon chips - Qualcomm has a long (very long) history of promising that their chips will do this, that, the third, and even the fourth - but they never come through. Tegra 3 is coming out this year though and that's going to be a beast to contend with - the Exynos from Samsung absolutely decimates the Tegra 2.
Build quality on my Captivate was phenomenal - I've never had an HTC phone with great build quality - and that's going all the way back to the PPC-6800. There have always been issues. This is my first LG phone and while I enjoy it a lot, the touch panel sensitivity is a huge issue when I'm gaming and really needs to be fixed.
Also, HTC tends to say that the phone has "x" amount of storage space but what really happens (like what happened with the Inspire) is they partition and format it in a way that means you get slightly less than half what they advertise. HTC also has a history of shoddy driver support.
The only pro I see with the HTC is how fast HTC does device updates - that said, they're always sloppy releases and devs have to take them apart anyway - add in the locked bootloader and I don't really see a lot of devs going that way. Also the TegraZone is quickly growing - developers are really taking to the Tegra platform and producing some astounding applications as a result. There is no Qualcomm or Samsung zone and Tegra-optimized applications will not run on another chipset.
+1 etherealremnant
Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Nothing for sure yet, I think only ATT has been confirmed
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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There has been some rumors that T-Mo is skipping this one for the Hercules, which will be a 4.5" screen beast, but like jlevy said, nothing confirmed yet.
HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates. Rip the one s. Personally I think its shocking that a one year old phone is left out in the cold. And I certainly won't be buying a HFC phone again.
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Htc are ****ing stupid!!! The galaxy s2 is still getting updates!! I predict they will go bankrupt within the next year. If they do no one will miss them they need to get their **** together.
Given the lack of support since day 1 I am not really surprised. Failing MAO coating, helicoptering, battery drain.... And now only 6 months of software support. And still they wonder why customers are leaving?
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HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates.
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Source? A few weeks ago they said something different.
Anyway. After the helicoptering disaster I already knew that my next smartphone would not be made by HTC.
There is a feature story on Engadget "We can confirm that the HTC One S will not receive further Android OS updates and will remain on the current version of Android and HTC Sense. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed the HTC One S to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences." This was a press statement released by HTC.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/htc-confirms-one-s-will-no-longer-receive-android-updates/
Here u go guys
Rip one s
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I doesn't stop to function.
I just got this phone a little over a week ago and it's already killed off like it didn't exist. I was really rooting for HTC but this is just downright f***ed up. Here, I thought HTC learned a lesson and was actually going to change their ways but i guess not
Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
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Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
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I agree. I mean when a two year old Samsung Galaxy S II has a newer version of a one year old HTC One S, it really shows you how much they care about their customers and also, they clearly said earlier in the year that they would update the One S, One X, X+, and Butterfly to 4.2.
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but the Jelly Bean update sucks as hell
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They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
Well we all saw this coming, my next phone won't be a HTC for sure, even tho I've been a HTC fanboy since the nexus one.
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They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
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Why didn't you take a Sony then?
I will think twice when I buy my next phone.. dammit, HTC what are you doing!
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My nexus one was the reason I loved HTC's build quality: that phone is still alive after being run over by a car!
It sure is crappy to hear HTC lie about bringing updates, but it still is only one source, while the news of sense 5 coming to the HOS was reiterated quite a few times...
I just hope it's a lie 'cause it's real bad marketing for HTC!!
We started with 4.0 and are now left with 4.1, will the HTC One ever get 4.3?
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1 year support yeah! die htc die!
I can imagine this is happening because the HTC One Mini is being released soon and will be replacing the One S as a mid range phone.
I've had a few HTC phones and been quite happy with them, but this is unacceptable, I will not be supporting HTC anymore. I feel bad I recommended the HTC One to so many people, going to have to tell anyone else who asks to go for the GS4 or Nexus 4 I guess.
I only use custom roms so this isn't really as big of a deal for me as I will probably always be able to get something decent ported, but the principal of them doing this really posses me off. If I didn't want to root my phone I would be kissed off at the lack of support.
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Same thoughts here guys. The One S was superior or equal to the One X and isn't supported anymore after one year. And its updates where delayed from the beginning...
The only reason to introduce plain Android for the One is to cut its sense lifecycle short to at least one year. They think that any fanboy out there will reinvestigate into the latest HTC phone every year and then sell it for the latest model and if you want to keep it longer, you could switch to it's Google play edition. No need to update sense anymore. Let's go for the next model. Imho this thinking made some leading people leave HTC the last months.
As I never was a real lover of sense I started using it with this phone and I have to admit, at least I even started liking it. It turned out to be pretty practical in one way or another.
So I'll keep it for a few more months, just to see what Moto or Sony will come up with in the near future. Samsung never was and is an alternative due to it's el cheapo design. Also that S4 outdoor variant looks pretty good in my eyes.
R.I.P. my beloved One S and f**k you HTC.