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[Q] New devices for T-Mobile

So I wanted to know some people's opinions about what kind of phone I should look at for T-Mobile. I currently have a HTC Glacier, but I'm looking to upgrade. I would obviously want something that will handle ICS and have a healthy dev section on XDA. Everyone seems to be pushing the Samsung S II, but I'm frankly scared of Samsung and their quality.
Am I unfounded in this perception?
What do you think?

Don't be scared of Samsung, be scared of HTC, I read more people complaining about there HTC phone then any other brand.
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No problems with my GS2. But maybe you just need to wait, surely there will be new offerings this summer.

mikew222 said:
No problems with my GS2. But maybe you just need to wait, surely there will be new offerings this summer.
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Yeah I agree, if you're going to upgrade and extend your contract, might as well wait to see what comes out during the summer.

Really HTC huh? I suppose it's one of those things that are hard to gauge and highly anecdotal. I love my HTC Glacier and it's been one hell of a phone, but with CM9 not being released directly for it and the new gen of dual core processors I kind of wanted to upgrade.
I will probably wait it out though like some of your have suggested. In the mean time I think I need to find a better ROM for my current one though.

Alot of people have different opioinns about phone brands, Some HTC models are great! and then some are ok...but none the less I would wait untill late spring or summer and see what new devices are coming out
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Trading my HOXL for Nexus

To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?

kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Android phones are hard to predict.
6 Months is half a product cycle of an iPhone.
The HTC One X(L) is a fantastic device. We don't even have Kernel Source yet and look at the development we've seen so far. Sit tight.
I think ISIS will be a huge fail and Google Wallet will be allowed eventually.

kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...

People have mentioned all kinds of crazy trades, so anything is possible, I guess. But as mentioned in above responses, I wouldn't bet on a straight out one-for-one trade. Trading what is probably going to be a flagship phone, for a phone that is 5-6 months old is probably not going to be considered a fair trade by most people. You may have to sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra, or extra cash to make it a fair trade. Or sell the One X for whatever you can get for it, then buy the Nexus of your choice.

Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)

I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly

bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...

kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Funny, I left my GN to get the HOX because of the terrible radio. Although the software was great, I got really slow data speeds on the GN no matter what radio I flashed. My HOX gets fantastic speeds now.
Whether the radio is good or not is never one of the specs reviewers talk about but without a good radio, the phone is not much use. Do a few searches on Samsung radios and you will see that they have a poor reputation.
And as far as development is concerned, ask SG2 owners how long it took to get CM to work because of the weird blue tooth drivers Samsung used....
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I pre-ordered a Nexus 7 tablet to satisfy my craving for a pure android device.

Ordered my Nexus 7 as well. Probably going to sell my Prime, but we'll see.
As soon as source drops for this phone, it's going to be huge.

kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:

karan1203 said:
I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water

bongd said:
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. (
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Try using HD contact photos (app). Seems to work pretty well as long as you don't use the HD resolution feature in the advanced settings.
BTW that's a Google problem, not HTC problem.
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You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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expertzero1 said:
You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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Lol one x will jelly bean.
Im using jelly bean on my old deactivated nexus, and Im dying to have Google now on the one x. It blows all the voice assistants we currently have out of the water.
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ethantarheels123 said:
wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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I can only dream of this happening. Stock nexus with inferior hardware is smoother than our one x. Sense uses way too much RAM.
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
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Samsung is a bigger company. They have leverage against carriers. HTC is desperate.
Another reason is, samsung is the biggest electronics manufacturing company in the world. This is why the nexus is able to sell at $350. There is no other company that can provide such cost efficiency. Only samsung has the infrastructure.

mikelebz said:
Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
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I don't think we're gonna see anymore developers then what we currently have. They're gonna flock to the sgs3 and the nexus phones. Also, with another better One X supposedly rumored, why would they get this phone? We haven't reached the most roms well get but we've most likely seen which developers will work on them. This phone was doomed one the sgs3 and jelly bean came out. Source or no source.
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bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I'm thinking it's more of that crappy company AT&T. Isn't the source out already for the evo 4g lte?
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expertzero1 said:
At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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You're kidding right?
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Successor just within 6 months ?

Hello everybody
It has not even been 6 months since the HTC One x release.
I have bought a HTC One x last week in the hope that it would be the flagship product for HTC for next 6 months.
Alas all my hopes was shattered few days back by HTC One x+.
I have seen the rumors even before I purchase the one x.
But at that time it was said as a direct competitor for Samsung galaxy note product.
So I assumed it may not supersede HTC One x.
But recent reports are terming the one x+ as more of a successor to one x than competitor Samsung galaxy note.
In that case our mobile phone would soon become a step child for HTC from a flagship product position that too merely within 6 month of a product life cycle.
I.think nowadays mobile phone product got a short span of life cycle.
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That's how it goes. Thank Apple and their yearly release cycle.

I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.

Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. I love the One X and don't image it will be difficult to stick with it for 2 years.
...no matter how tempting the Lumia 920's PureView camera may be...

cupps said:
I could be dead wrong, but a)aren't the specs of the X+ on marginally better (same RAM, same battery, same form essentially... with a slightly better CPU?) and b)isn't the X+ looking like T-Mobile, which would make it like the Evo for Sprint. Not a "successor," just another version.
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That's how I see it too
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Love the one you're with.
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My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.

superchilpil said:
My opinion, quit worrying about newer phones and enjoy the one you have
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Agreed.
Contrary to popular belief, when a newer phone is released, your devices specs DO NOT change. They will remain the same thru its entire life span

I don't care about new phones. I just want this one to get root!

Remember, there is still the Evitaire info from early august. The One X+ is codenamed Endeavor C2, that one should be for T-Mobile. Considering the AT&T One X is codenamed Evita, I'm sure the the Evitaire is for AT&T and is the One X+. We will know for sure on the 19th.
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This happens all the time. When a new device is released, people feel hard done by because a newer model is about to be released. It's just the way technology is nowadays.
And as others have said, the + isn't a massive improvement anyway

Alcoholic said:
New phones are always going to be coming out. Did you think HTC would never release a better version of the one x?
I don't think the one x+ is coming to AT&T so you don't need to worry.
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Thanks everybody for your clarifications on the One X+.
Moreover many of you have not understood my concern correctly.
I am not such an immature person to think that the mobile phone i have, would never get a successor.
Not only Apple offers a one year window before releasing a successor to it's products, But it also offers 3+ year support for it's existing products.
Expecting our investment (valuation) to be secured at least for one year is wrong?
I think, people should not complain about product support for more than one year if they didn't buy an Apple or Google Experience device.
Anyway let us hope the HTC One X+ be a T-Mobile centric mobile phone.

In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so. HTC has no choice. If it didn't refresh its hardware in 6-month time frame, other manufacturers will leave it way behind. There is no such concern from Apple because no one else get to release another iPhone.

foxbat121 said:
In Android phone arena, a phone can barely hold on to its status within 3 months of release. By 6-month time, it is defintely last gen. If you always want the latest and greatest, be prepared to buy a new phone every 6 months or so.
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Still you didn't understand my point correctly.
Using latest and greatest mobile phone is not my point.
I want the mobile phone i purchased should receive first hand treatment from the company at least for one year.
Apple, Google and Samsung does that.

How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.

foxbat121 said:
How many Samsung phones you owned in the past? Samsung NEVER treat its current released phone as 1st class. Typically you only get important updates after new phone releases. That's why I switched over to HTC after so many years dealing with Samsung. And I don't regret it at all.
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Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.

I am not trying to cause issues with this post but to point something out and ponder WTF is different.
This new X, is just a slight upgrade we know, but in this picture at the Verge, it seems to have either new vent holes or a speaker outlet by the redesigned camera bezel.. IF, this is a picture of it and not something else.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/9/7/3300642/htc-one-x-plus-specs-leaked
What am I missing here, I haven't seen this back before, just went through every device at gsmarena and couldn't find a match, it's redesigned a little I guess. If you can't see holes, highlight picture.
WR
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My wife's 2 year old HTC Inspire got an update last month. Will it ever see ICS? I doubt it.
With Google going to a yearly software release schedule like apple I suspect my One X will see Jelly Bean but not Key Lime Pie, or Karmel Korn, or whatever they decide to call it.
You buy a phone for what it can do TODAY. Since you're on a site which is all about developing custom roms and tweaks and such, a company's official software release schedule shouldn't matter all that much anyway.
If by some bizarre chance I still have this phone in two years I'm sure CM11 or CM 12 or whatever will run on it just fine.
The dual core S4 is already capable of running everything except the hardcore games like a hot knife through butter. Android apps are a long way off from maxxing out what our SoC is capable of.
In a nutshell chasing the latest and greatest is expensive, there will always be something better on the horizon. Always buy the flagship and if you can, buy the unsubsidized unlocked version. That will keep the average XDA user happy for at least a year.

raddy said:
Wasn't Samsung Galaxy S2 a successful and well supported mobile phone on it's times than HTC Sensation ?
And would HTC Sensation receive a Jelly Bean update ?
Samsung Galaxy S2 going to receive it.
Moreover Samsung Galaxy S2 had never received a successor on any of the operator within a full one year gap.
Was the same with HTC Sensation ?
HTC Sensation XE and XL been released merely within few months after the release of HTC Sensation.
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My Samsung Galaxy S2 (AT&T version) only received ICS updates after I purchased HTC OneX and dumped my S2.
In US, AT&T received Galaxy S2 in Oct. 2011, then a newer version of Galaxy S2 with LTE radio called Galaxy S2 SkyRocket and Galaxy Note showed up in Nov. 2011. Afterwards, AT&T is also scheduled to release Galaxy S2 SkyRocket HD in March or April 2012 but later cancelled due to incoming Galaxy S3 which released in June 2012. The SkyRocket HD did get released in Korea however. So, in about eight months, Samsung released or intend to release 5 different Android phones on the same carrrier.

October...

... is almost gone and still no JB update on the horizon. I doub't that there will be an JB Update this month
Anyone with me?

It's htc obviously there isn't going to be a jelly bean update they talk out their back side all the time never buying another HTC device.
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They actually never said October, that was just a rumour and supposedly only for the X, not the S.
They only came out the other day officially saying November for the one X and December for the one S.
http://www.techradar.com//news/phon...ean-release-date-when-will-you-get-it-1087344
Update: The latest reports suggest the One X will see Android 4.1 pop up in October, although HTC are yet to officially confirm anything.
Update:HTC has confirmed its One X and One S devices will be getting Android 4.1 in November and December respectively, and the update will land with an enhanced version of Sense – cunningly named Sense 4+ after its debut on the HTC One X+.
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But yeah I agree, it is annoying........
I am not expecting the update to hit my stock sim free one S in the UK till January or February.

That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...

Ivancp said:
That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...
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You got any links to those posts?

It doesn't matter htc even if they give us a date they don't stick to it happens with most of their devices I really don't care if they go bankrupt they are terrible to customers
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Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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A lot of us have sim free devices, which means we don't have to rely on network providers, so in theory if HTC released the JB update for Europe, every sim free one s that was bought from Europe should have the JB update by the end of the week, likewise for USA etc. Network locked/branded phones have to wait.
Sim free device means it comes down to the CID number.
Although with the way things worked out for the last update, it sounds like you're better of with branded phones
Take 5-10 seconds to read this thread, I already posted that quote in this thread already......
Regarding as to if JB will make a difference or not, many people who have the GS 3 have said the difference in smoothness is pretty big coming from ICS and from my experience the GS 3 is smoother than the S, just not as nippy/speedy though.
Besides there is more to it than just project butter:
- notification tray UI update
- improvement in battery slightly
- improvements in sense such as themes for the SMS sense app, camera UI, battery history/graph
No doubt there will be other improvements, possibly improving signal/wifi performance even more.

Spastic909 said:
Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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Mines sim free not branded and should get it straight away also once devs get their hands on the software they can implement it into their roms so technically we are just waiting for HTC and they don't stick to their deadlines
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I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.

xxquicksh0txx said:
I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.
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Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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GeckoD said:
Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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Couldn't agree more. I don't see how much better my phone can get, it does anything and everything I want it to. It lasts me more than all day, except if I play heavy games (Which is a given with any phone...)
If you want fast updates, and a lot of them go to a iphone.
Everyone is nagging on HTC, while not enjoying what they have.

Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but give HTC a break.
I mean, it is them but it is us too.
Several companies haven't even pushed ICS yet.
And are you kidding? Not many things changed, just an addition of Google Now and some other things. I would understand if they like promised like 5.0 Kandy Kane/Key Lime Pie/Krispy Kreme or whatever, but no.
The update is also confirmed to start rolling out in October-November.
HTC no longer announces dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that.
Also, look at other companies. Samsung, Huawei, Sony, Alcatel, etc. All companies are never sure when they are going to release it. I'm sure it's not easy to develop something for ever single device and customize everything to a liking. All phone companies lie.
Hope that helps!

I also think the main reason they could be late is because of rebasing it on 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1, to avoid another update in the future.
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Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/

mikeyinid said:
Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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This.
I am sure JB has been ready for quite a while now, well most certainly for the one X anyway.
Only reason they don't release it for the X is due to the above, another selling point for the X+.
Exact same happened with the GS 3 and the GS 3 LTE model in the UK, only in the last few days have GS 3 UK owners been getting the JB update despite the LTE model being out for a month or a few weeks iirc. Only difference between them is one has an extra GB of RAM and is LTE supported.
I am in no rush at all really, however, I would like to get the update before the end of the year though especially since I can't see us getting 4.2.....
Here is just a glimpse preview of what JB and the new sense will bring, it is for the X though and some stuff isn't right i.e. we do have the notifications new features, which shows more detail.
http://www.neowin.net/news/htc-sense-4-review-how-it-should-have-been-from-the-start

Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
2?
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Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
2?
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The one X will.
I just have a funny feeling the s won't, due to it not being popular at all, HTC have a whole bunch of new android phones out and will be releasing even more in the next 1-2 months meaning less time and money to spend on older devices. Plus we have only had like 2 updates since the phone released, where as the X has had around 4-5.
Of course, I could be completely wrong and really hope I am.
Although if the XL gets the update (and am pretty sure it will), then there is absolutely no reason why they can't provide the update to the S as well.....

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Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/
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*facepalm*
That's for the European version, not the USA version.

HTC: No more updates for One X and One X+ past Android 4.2.2

Bad news guys
HTC has announced that its 2012 flagships, the One X and One X+, won’t be receiving any updates past Android 4.2.2.
htc one x 1024x576 HTC: No more updates for One X and One X+ past Android 4.2.2
The decision has been met with considerable criticism on Twitter, and rightly so, especially in the case of the One X+, which has been left in the lurch only 14 months after launch. What makes matters worse is that neither device will be getting Android 4.3 either, a version of the OS that came well before either phone reached the usual 18-month support cycle extended to flagship devices. It’s a scenario reminiscent of what happened with the HTC Sensation, a flagship smartphone for which support was dropped after just one major update.
HTC issued the following statement:
We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences.
The decision to not update the One X series is also disappointing when one considers how HTC has been pretty great at updating its latest flagship, the HTC One, to newer versions of Android, with the KitKat update hitting unlocked models in the U.S. within a month after Google released the update for Nexus devices. Hopefully, it’s the same level of support HTC will extend to future devices as well, though even it does, One X and One X+ owners likely won’t be putting their faith in the company when they’re due for a smartphone upgrade in a few months.
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Was this entire post all your own original writing? It looks like it came from a news site, if it did you should probably quote the source.
I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised about this news though. It's been a pretty well established fact that 4.2.2 was going to be the last official update this device would receive. And while I don't agree with HTC's update policy and schedule it does make total sense considering this device is now 20 months old. I probably won't buy another HTC device purely because of their inability to update their devices in a timely fashion (the 4.2.2 update came something like ten months after it was released by Android).
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To be honest I ain't that worried about the device being at the end if life.... Cause the sprint evo 4g lte is getting 4.3 sense 5 and we can port from that... But ontop of that in the ElementalX thread Zarboz said he's gonna take care of us with a 4.3, and 4.4 sense kernel.
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I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
They gave some cockamamie reason why the Desire HD will no longer receive updates.
On the other hand, a much newer yet weaker device was receiving further updates.
A year later, that device was no longer receiving updates.
I am seeing a trend.
As much as I like the HTC Sense, their lack of supporting old hardware is becoming a major gripe.
If I wanted lack of support for older devices and being forced to spend money on upgrading to a new device, I would switch to Apple.
This is complete BS!

Asovse1 said:
I'm thinking this is just for the European HOX.
Android Headlines
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/01/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx.html
Do remember that some One S got the JB update, while many others on the unsupported chipset were left in the dark.
I'm still keeping hope that the One XL will at least see another Android update, maybe some fixes for the current stock rom, or at least Android 4.3. And if not, for reasons NOT due to our Snapdragon S4, THAT can be met with criticism to HTC.
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Wow, you guys can really be delusional at times. I mean... seriously.

That was uncalled for.
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TeK9samurai said:
Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.

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Well of course, the real reason is that HTC is very much hurting financially, and aren't going to dedicate resources to supporting older devices. If this also drives some to purchase newer HTC devices, than that's all the more reason. Yes, its a shame for those that want to stay on this device. But HTC is going to do what they have to do to stay in business.
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The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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timmaaa said:
The problem is that HTC is further alienating already disgruntled customers by taking this course of action. I understand their motivation, they are a business after all. But I also understand why people are upset about this move. I probably won't be buying HTC and I upgrade, purely out of principal. I just don't want to give my money to a company whose main priority is to gain new customers rather than maintain existing customers, it's even at the expense of existing customers. It's a real shame because I think their devices are really solid.
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I have to agree. If I wanted a good experience without needing updates I would get a sony phone. My next phone will probably be a samsung since they're so popular and have good dev support.

Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5

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Just Google Nexus buying
Effortlessly update
NEXUS 5
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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.

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Meh. Obviously, everyone here already knows about Nexus phones. Anybody can get the latest OS version by buying a new phone. That's not the point. This is a discussion about the phones we already own.
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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.

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He does have a point though. I bought a One X, even with intuition nagging at me to buy the SG3, because I really loved my Aria (the first HTC I owned) and I wanted to give HTC one more chance. Now, AT&T and their new "Next" program has me stuck with no more early discounted device upgrades, and still on JB. I hope that the last update for my One X breathes a little new life into it, but my next device is going to be a Google Play edition phone, a Nexus, or a Moto X off-contract. I'll spend the extra $$ to get something that isn't going to be a disappointment in three months.
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Yeah, but the post I responded to by musician_it didn't tell you anything you didn't already know, did it (or anybody else here for that matter)?
Just my opinion, the Nexus devices have been pretty underwhelming (hardware-wise) for several iterations now. HTC simply has the best hardware around, and has for years. Its simply a shame they can't provide better long-term support on the software side.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/cffjjiq
"actively exploring" =/= won't do
Might not happen given their track record, but it's nice to think about on this Monday night.
I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.

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I think it's because though our chipset can definitely handle Kitkat, HTC probably wants to handle it in such a way that the international users who don't know the difference between HOX and HOXL won't think HTC is discriminating in our favour.
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Its different hardware, so therefore different software. That is all he is saying. Lots of people get confused that the "international" One X (Tegra3) has so-and-so update, so why don't we (Snapdragon One X/XL), thinking its the same phone, when its not.

Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC

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Well, according to llabtoofer, maybe HTC will update this device to kitkat too!
http://llabtoofer.com/2014/02/20/htc-software-updates-plan-20-02/
Maybe a petition is a nice way to convince HTC
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grt idea.... someone with good skills should do it......