So, who's getting a Sensation, and why? - General Topics

I've had my G2 since the day it came out and its the best smartphone, and Android phone I've ever had. Despite the little quirks the G2 has that somewhat bother me,I love the look and the fact that the keyboard is amazing. BUT, I'm going to be making the switch to the Sensation when it comes out.
1) I've always wanted a large screen phone. I envy people with a Evo despite my phone will out perform it anyday. I feel like with a 4.3 inch ill be happy no matter what. Playing games will be better especially with the large screen, and the dual core of course will be great too. Eventhough the G2's keyboard is amazingly awesome, I know the larger screen will make up for not having one and ill finally be able to get really handy with Swype.
2) the hardware on the phone is amazing. The dual core is going to be amazingly fast and I feel the phone will gather a large dev community and the roms, kernels etc will be be vast. Not to mention Sense 3.0 is beautiful and will be great to use evenwhen other roms are available.
3) I work for best buy, so the discount will be enough for me to buy outright (or else I wouldn't buy haha).
What about you?
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I'm not sure.. I just came from the G2x and was really in love with it minus the F'ed up screen. I'm thinking about holding out for a similar G2 with Dual Core or even Quad Core capability. This G2 is so nice after fixing the hinge. I'm very satisfied.

Coming from an N900 I've always thought I had to had a keyboard and but after using Swype, HTC IME and every other onscreen keyboard featured I end up using the onscreen 90% of the time anyway.
Now on to the reason I'm getting the Sensation.. my best bud and gadget rival got a Thunderbolt and the G2 looks puny compared to it! Haha.

I'm a big fan of 4.3" form factor after having my HD2. In fact at 10 months was the longest I ever owned a phone. I still consider it ergonomically the best phone I've ever used (for me). I've been waiting for something similar in Android form to come out to Tmo for quite a while. G2 was really a stop gap for me waiting for a 4.3" Tmo phone.

I'm tempted by the Sensation...
I find myself only using the desire Z keyboard for long emails, otherwise the onscreen keyboard does the job nice.
I already have a Bluetooth keyboard and as the Sensation supports the Bluetooth HID profile, i'm hoping that I would be able to use that with the Sensation.
The big screen is definitely appealing!

you have tot think its not only a 4.3 incher, but it has a qhd screen. for seem this seems like this could be as big as when the evo launcher. just because its the first phone with sense 3.0 and all of these yummy specs. and someone referring to having a phone with dual core, and a slide out keyboard i think youll probably be in luck. though its not the next g2, it is the mytouch 4g slide and it has alot of the goodies the sensation has plus a slide out. i can imagine a g3 will be in the works considering how fast phones are developing these days.

Wonder when we can expect the g3 if possible...i would probably pass on the sensation atm.

I am interested in it, but I will wait for a few weeks to get it because there are bound to be glitches and problems with it.

Locked bootloader = no dice
HTC was once a great but SE is looking the best for Android now. HW isn't much currently but hell, they give you the option to unlock the bootloader and even instructions to make your own kernel.

KCRic said:
Locked bootloader = no dice
HTC was once a great but SE is looking the best for Android now. HW isn't much currently but hell, they give you the option to unlock the bootloader and even instructions to make your own kernel.
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exactly. as soon as I see that they locked the bootloader, I just have nothing else to say... I wish they would continue doing what they did way back when and not worry about what rom we put on our phone. it's not like we're reverse engineering the phone to create a clone of the actual device and software to sell for profits.

This forum is only now starting to hit it's stride. It will be ages before the sensation forum can even come close to what our devs have done here. And for someone like me, that is just as important as the actual phone hardware itself.

xsteven77x said:
This forum is only now starting to hit it's stride. It will be ages before the sensation forum can even come close to what our devs have done here. And for someone like me, that is just as important as the actual phone hardware itself.
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Have to agree, but even though the Sensation will come all locked up, it's still the first dual core HTC phone. There will be a lot of people with it.

ericc191 said:
Have to agree, but even though the Sensation will come all locked up, it's still the first dual core HTC phone. There will be a lot of people with it.
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Did anyone ever crack any of the motorola locked bootloaders? Last I heard no one ever did and genius's have been working on that for years with bounties worth 1000s. If this is anything like that its gonna be a dead end. Nothing but roms based on the stock with slight tweaks. Not interested.
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xsteven77x said:
Did anyone ever crack any of the motorola locked bootloaders? Last I heard no one ever did and genius's have been working on that for years with bounties worth 1000s. If this is anything like that its gonna be a dead end. Nothing but roms based on the stock with slight tweaks. Not interested.
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We should wait and see what happens with the Incredible S.

i def know what youre saying with the sign bootloader. from what ive read, its not nearly as bad the moto bootloaders. i know there was an issue with the thunderbolt being locked..but whadda know! its unlocked, and roms are being flashed, etc. the g2 took quite some time before it was officially rooted. i have high hopes for the sensation being unlocked and from what ive read throughout websites that others do too. regardless of the bootloader ever being cracked, the phone is amazing with everything it offers and ill be getting it anyway. the new sense is going to be AMAZING, and itll hold me over until the phone is rooted.

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Inspire 4G vs Atrix

Hey guys. I know I'm posting this in here so I assume bias answers will come aboutt but I'm switching to att and I cannot decide between the two. What do you think? I know the atrix isn't very rootable or romable but has amazing specs. But the inspire is, and is a beautiful device. What are your opinions? How easy is the inspire to root?
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Depends on if you prefer the allure of a dual core processor over end user customization and superior build quality.
Rooting the Inspire is very easy if you can follow the instructions exactly as they are written.
Have both myself and the atrix is going back. Everyone has their preference for what they want in a phone and I really wanted to like the atrix but I don't see the benefit at this time of dual core when it comes at the expense of customizing. I am somewhat biased toward sense as well even though I don't always use sense roms, it is nice to have the option. The inspire is a great phone and I know I won't get bored given the variety of roms that are, or will be available.
Battery seems to be a topic that comes up but honestly I have been getting great results with the inspire. 13 hours off charger today and dropped to 68%. Light day for me, only an hour of display time and few minutes of calls but everything left to sync every hour. One major thing I have noticed is that even if you do find you need to recharge, the inspire charges quickly, even using computer usb, while the atrix takes a lot longer and is painfully slow if you are not using a regular outlet to charge.
Been covered before, but the inspire really is the better device. MOTO kinda screwed the atrix up with software.
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Been covered before, but the inspire really is the better device. MOTO kinda screwed the atrix up with software.
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100% agree. I returned my Atrix for the Inspire, and I'm glad I did. Inspire has a much more polished and functional user interface.
New root tools now available here should make rooting easy.
As said before it depends on what you want.
Phone with awesome specs or Phone with awesome dev support and a great UI
Both phones are awesome in their own right, but for me its all about having control of my phone and being able to do what I like to it.
In all honesty I'd wait for a dual core phone till HTC makes one. This is my first HTC coming from a blackberry bold. I don't think I'll ever not go with HTC again...
edit: Baaa I sound like a fanboy.....
okay, i appreicate your help guys. i guess now im just trying to figure out when i get the phone, how to root. ive been looking at this for simple s off and root(which is all i want for ROMing and using OC kernels). has anyone had luck with this, and or was it rather easy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
I just used the hack kit to root. Not hard if you just follow the instructions and only takes 45 minutes after you get all the files downloaded.
Just returned my Atrix back to Radioshack and got the Inspire!! Just as everyone said here, if you want something good on paper but with no real use, then the Atrix is for you, but if you want a proven phone with an unlocked bootloader for ROMS etc... then this is the the right choice...
Although I lost my front facing camera, i figured I rarely used it anyways, so no biggie for me. I also didn't like the smaller icons on the Atrix. Even though it has less RAM and i less core, it still performs pretty dang fast..
Quadrant scores with a good amount of apps. without OC or anything stock is still hitting: 1807
Color looks much better too on this screen..... glad I switched to this phone instead. I am sure I will get a better dual or quad core in the next year but until then this will do....
Bye Motorola...except for the Xoom..that looks like a good choice though.
Your asking this in the inspire forms, of course everyone will say the inspire is better. If you asked this in the atrix forums you'd get the opposite response I've had both and returned the inspire. It isn't a bad phone but it has horrid battery life and no internal sd storage. It has great roms and OCs like a monster but OC and bad battery life just compound the problem. I can see why people would choose one or the other, it really just depends on what you're looking for.
I'm not sure if this is true or not, but a guy on Reddit said he was talking with a Motorola Representative and the Rep. told him that the Atrix doesn't use both cores at the same time. One is for the phone and the other is just for the laptop dock. Maybe someone else has more info on this.
Wow, another reason Im happy I stuck to my guns and got this phone.
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so if I use bubbys GUI, that will allow me to sideload apps? Or ill need to put a rom that allows that? Or what is the sideload wonder machine? I'm sorry for all the questions, the htc vision is a lot more simple.
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Used hack kit on my inspire and bubbys on my wifes. not as easy as samsung galaxy s, however not difficult if you follow the directions to the letter lol. my only issue with buys was total user error on my part lol. ended up making 32 gb class 4 gold card instead of the already made 4 gb gold card I had.
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If you just want to sideload, you can use Sideload Wonder Machine. If you want root and custom roms use one of the hack kits.
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I actually have both phones. I love both of them for different reasons.
Atrix - Works well once you change launchers. Fast and smooth. I actually like the smaller icons and all. But I use this phone mostly as a personal backup phone. But it works well and is crystal clear with a strong signal. MUCh MUCH better than my old cappy.
Inspire - My work phone, thank GOD I work from home and can have it plugged in most of the time. When I travel I have to have the Atrix just in case I cant get juice on the road. But, the inspire is awsome, not as fast but "good enough" for me. Love the size and color of it and the sense ui just works for me. I can tell which pocket has what phone based on bulk and weight. Very nice quality phone. Plus, I had a cappy, and we all know what we did almost every day. Loaded custom roms, played and even bricked a few but its so addicting.
If I had to go purchase one today, knowing what I know, Inspire would be my first choice, Again I own both and love both but first choice for the pure fun and joy it would give me the INSPIRE wins hands down.
Got my inspire today. Mixed feelings so far. Have to admit i kind of miss my captivate a little.
I think the inspire screen size is perfect. But i miss the superamoled. I don't know if its just me but my screen has horrible viewing angles and also seems to have too much of a grey color to it.
If samsung brings out the infuse soon i might give it a shot. This being my first htc maybe i should give it more time. Might return it for another one to see how the screen looks.
As far as the atrix goes, they couldn't pay me to use that phone. Played with one a little today, it's more hype than anything imo.
I like the form of the inspire, it feels solid, not iphone4 solid but very close. I hope rooting and everything gets easier.
Someone smarter than Me should start selling goldcards for this phone. Id be 1st in line for one.
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I had both phones - inspire is the best phone I have ever had. It made the atrix look like a toy. iPhone 4 has a better camera, but thats about it.
Inspire all the way. Galaxy S 2 is looking good though, if it ever comes out.
Edit: How can anyone with an Atrix and Inspire say the inspire is slower? The atrix is the definition of a neutered turtle. That thing is clunky and useless.
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I had both phones - inspire is the best phone I have ever had. It made the atrix look like a toy. iPhone 4 has a better camera, but thats about it.
Inspire all the way. Galaxy S 2 is looking good though, if it ever comes out.
Edit: How can anyone with an Atrix and Inspire say the inspire is slower? The atrix is the definition of a neutered turtle. That thing is clunky and useless.
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I'm also a psu fan. I hope that they let Joe stay on the sideline forever. Hell he should be buried there.
Back on topic, my opinion if the atrix is that it is basically a moto iphone that is not as good as the 4 but somewhere inbetween a 3 gs and the iphone 4.
As far as the inspire goes, it needs a better screen in my opinion but maybe i just got a bad one. I'm taking it back today to try another one and if its the same then i may just wait for the infuse to come out.
If you look in the atrix forum it appears that the majority are giving up on it already.
Dg got rid of his and i think but don't quote me in this, he said he doesn't think the locked will ever be broken in to which leads me back to my iphone reference. Same thing, you can root (jailbreak) it but not much else.
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donharden2002 said:
I'm also a psu fan. I hope that they let Joe stay on the sideline forever. Hell he should be buried there.
Back on topic, my opinion if the atrix is that it is basically a moto iphone that is not as good as the 4 but somewhere inbetween a 3 gs and the iphone 4.
As far as the inspire goes, it needs a better screen in my opinion but maybe i just got a bad one. I'm taking it back today to try another one and if its the same then i may just wait for the infuse to come out.
If you look in the atrix forum it appears that the majority are giving up on it already.
Dg got rid of his and i think but don't quote me in this, he said he doesn't think the locked will ever be broken in to which leads me back to my iphone reference. Same thing, you can root (jailbreak) it but not much else.
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Did dg really get rid of his Atrix, did he post about it some where? Only reason I ask is cause I was planning on trying the atrix in my thirty day period bit if he left I'm not even gonna try. He doesn't give up that easy so if he have up looks bad lol
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G2x or Sensation?

So I have a G2x sitting in my shopping cart on tmo(not upgrading paying outright so no contract extenstion) and I'm faced with a huge choice. Do I buy the LG now or wait for the sensation? Like sense but always run cm for speed so every phone that I had that came with sense stock always was replaced with cm. There are pros and cons to both phones
htc sensation:better display and bigger(I actually like smaller screens)
g2x: more internal memory but less ram
htc is 1.2ghx and the g2x is 1.
It's such a hard choice to make. So my question is for those of you who got the g2x why did you get it instead of waiting for the sensation? What reasons did you have on going with the g2x as opposed to waiting for the htc? I really dont know if I should get the g2x or wait it out a bit. I am itching to hit that "complete order" button on the g2x though
I'd be coming from a mytouch 4g
graffixnyc said:
So I have a G2x sitting in my shopping cart on tmo(not upgrading paying outright so no contract extenstion) and I'm faced with a huge choice. Do I buy the LG now or wait for the sensation? Like sense but always run cm for speed so every phone that I had that came with sense stock always was replaced with cm. There are pros and cons to both phones
htc sensation:better display and bigger(I actually like smaller screens)
g2x: more internal memory but less ram
htc is 1.2ghx and the g2x is 1.
It's such a hard choice to make. So my question is for those of you who got the g2x why did you get it instead of waiting for the sensation? What reasons did you have on going with the g2x as opposed to waiting for the htc? I really dont know if I should get the g2x or wait it out a bit. I am itching to hit that "complete order" button on the g2x though
I'd be coming from a mytouch 4g
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I don't own a G2X, only played with one alongside my NS for a bit. I don't really know that you're going to notice a huge difference in speed coming from your Glacier on CM7 at 1.5ghz ...it's a really fast phone. Are there some other features you feel like your missing with the Glacier that you could get from the G2X?
Edit: I don't have a G2x in my cart, but I'm itching too as well...!
I was waiting for the Sensation....but I only made it 4 hours on the 15th before giving in and ordering online.
Only thing I like better about the sensation is the qHD display...but the G2X screen is still nice.
I also didnt want a huge screen phone that hardly fits in your pocket, the G2X size is good.
Well, I guess I'll just list my reasons out.
1. I, like you, don't like 4.3" screens, 4" is perfect for me and the display on the G2X is fantastic, even at 800x480 resolution.
2. I figured the .2 difference in ghz wasn't a big deal considering the resolution difference in the phones, 960x480 vs 800x480. As we've all seen, the G2X smokes the Atrix because of resolution alone, despite the 512mb ram difference.
3. Ram isn't going to make the phone run any better as we've already seen in Atrix vs G2X. It will help if your running tons of intensive apps at once, but it shouldn't be making much a difference 90% of the time.
4. A lot of devs are on the fence on supporting the sensation due to locked bootloaders. Even Cyanogen has said that they may not be supporting because of that very issue. And dev support is VERY important to me.
5. HDMI Mirroring on the G2X. This feature may also be on the sensation, but I haven't heard of it yet.
In all, I'm very happy I got the G2X. It runs like a champ and that's on Froyo. I can't wait till Cyanogen7 comes out.
P.S. The Optimus 2X has already been overclocked to 1.3 and 1.4 ghz if that means anything to you.
Hope this helps man. Good luck with whatever you get.
I never want a phone that has Sense on it.
Simple choice.
Well I got it because I'm a phone junkie. And I will be getting the sensation as soon as it drops. The G2x is a great phone much better than the vibrant and when it get GB it will be better than the nexus s.
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ScooterG said:
I don't own a G2X, only played with one alongside my NS for a bit. I don't really know that you're going to notice a huge difference in speed coming from your Glacier on CM7 at 1.5ghz ...it's a really fast phone. Are there some other features you feel like your missing with the Glacier that you could get from the G2X?
Edit: I don't have a G2x in my cart, but I'm itching too as well...!
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Well just the fact that it's newer tech dual core.. etc..
dj75728 said:
Well, I guess I'll just list my reasons out.
1. I, like you, don't like 4.3" screens, 4" is perfect for me and the display on the G2X is fantastic, even at 800x480 resolution.
2. I figured the .2 difference in ghz wasn't a big deal considering the resolution difference in the phones, 960x480 vs 800x480. As we've all seen, the G2X smokes the Atrix because of resolution alone, despite the 512mb ram difference.
3. Ram isn't going to make the phone run any better as we've already seen in Atrix vs G2X. It will help if your running tons of intensive apps at once, but it shouldn't be making much a difference 90% of the time.
4. A lot of devs are on the fence on supporting the sensation due to locked bootloaders. Even Cyanogen has said that they may not be supporting because of that very issue. And dev support is VERY important to me.
5. HDMI Mirroring on the G2X. This feature may also be on the sensation, but I haven't heard of it yet.
In all, I'm very happy I got the G2X. It runs like a champ and that's on Froyo. I can't wait till Cyanogen7 comes out.
P.S. The Optimus 2X has already been overclocked to 1.3 and 1.4 ghz if that means anything to you.
Hope this helps man. Good luck with whatever you get.
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Thanks for that man! Is that true that Cyanogen really might not support the sensation? Dev support is also very important to me. I never rely on carriers, always the community. I too am iffy about a 4.3 inch screen. I think my screen on my mt4g is pretty big enough for me especially since I have two android tablets for when I need a bigger screen android experience
kampf said:
I never want a phone that has Sense on it.
Simple choice.
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Every sense phone I have had has only had sense on it for a first few minutes out of the box. I love sense for it's eye candy but it's such a resource hog. So I always replace sense with CM
Overall you guys are happy with the g2x? build quality is solid? any issues like bad displays or any nonsense like that?
Im in the same boat. im kinda leaning towards waiting though. The g2x is an awesome device but the larger and higher res screen on the sensation is enough to make me hold off.
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4. A lot of devs are on the fence on supporting the sensation due to locked bootloaders. Even Cyanogen has said that they may not be supporting because of that very issue. And dev support is VERY important to me.
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if this is indeed true then i would get the g2x also. higher res screen (960x540) is nice but not as important as dev support. Btw, where did you read that cyanogen might not support it?
I'm still going back and forth if I'm going to order it or wait.. part of me really wants to just click that order button.. god I think I've made much more important decisions quicker than this one..
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if this is indeed true then i would get the g2x also. higher res screen (960x540) is nice but not as important as dev support. Btw, where did you read that cyanogen might not support it?
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He said it on his Twitter. HTC already announced it will have a locked boot loader. Most devs aren't going to deal with that ****. Poor decision on HTC's part because Samsung has already announced there Galaxy S II will be wide open.
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He said it on his Twitter. HTC already announced it will have a locked boot loader. Most devs aren't going to deal with that ****. Poor decision on HTC's part because Samsung has already announced there Galaxy S II will be wide open.
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is the sgs2 coming to tmobile for sure!?!?!?!?!?
i think im going back to a razor........ f this
Honestly the g2x is an amazing device and couldn't see myself using the sensation for the sole reason of just sense. I had a mytouch 4g for about 2 days and returned it for the g2 all because of sense. Now from the g2 I'm on the g2x and couldn't be happier. It's a choice you have to make but to completely honest it will be one you won't regret
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So all these hours that I've been deciding... I decided to do it. It was in stock when I first put it in my cart, when I went to check out it said it wasnt available for immediate shipment. I looked at the main site and sure enough, it was out of stock Guess I will be calling the closest store in the AM seeing if they have any in stock. After looking at some vids of the sensation I think it's just too big for me. I think the biggest I would go is 4" Hope I can pick one up tomorrow
Hopefully! I'll tell you now my store was pretty well stocked and I was there about 2 hours after they opened. Funny thing is the sametime I was going in I counted about 5 or 6 other people going in for the same thing...good luck! =P
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Nickb1989 said:
Honestly the g2x is an amazing device and couldn't see myself using the sensation for the sole reason of just sense. I had a mytouch 4g for about 2 days and returned it for the g2 all because of sense. Now from the g2 I'm on the g2x and couldn't be happier. It's a choice you have to make but to completely honest it will be one you won't regret
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I have a mt4g and I love it. I havent had sense on it....ever. lol The first thing I did when I got it was take it out of the box, root it, installed cwr and then flashed cm 7. I really do like the eye candy of sense but I like my device to be snappy and sense doesnt usually run snappy
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Hopefully! I'll tell you now my store was pretty well stocked and I was there about 2 hours after they opened. Funny thing is the sametime I was going in I counted about 5 or 6 other people going in for the same thing...good luck! =P
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If my closest store doesnt have it I'm sure one of the other 49 retails stores in my 5 mile radius in NYC will have one Tomorrow it is my mission to get one.. "It will be mine....oh yes, it will be mine"
anyone want to buy a mytouch 4g? hahaha
I'm personally waiting on the sensation I have a g2x its a nice phone I only use it for HDMI mirroring only use for me. I'm not scared of lock bootloader just be harder to crack. People said the g2 was unhackable and look at it now. Motorola signs thiers and uses encryption. The thunderbolt was hacked as well. If their is enough support it will be broken. Alot of developers are going still get this phone. The evo3d will be hacked as well once either phone is hacked well have an opening.
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I'm personally waiting on the sensation I have a g2x its a nice phone I only use it for HDMI mirroring only use for me. I'm not scared of lock bootloader just be harder to crack. People said the g2 was unhackable and look at it now. Motorola signs thiers and uses encryption. The thunderbolt was hacked as well. If their is enough support it will be broken. Alot of developers are going still get this phone. The evo3d will be hacked as well once either phone is hacked well have an opening.
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Your really not waiting for the Sensation since you already jumped on the G2x. By the way you must have the worlds greatest will power if you have G2x and are still using your outdated Glacier.....rolls eyes.
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For what its worth here are the benchmarks for the sensation g2x and sgs2 looks like sense is too bloated for the hardware
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Pre-production-HTC-Sensation-benchmarks-leak-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-has-the-upper-hand_id18230
I can order the g2x it from radio shack's website
edit: ok so I did it! I ordered it from Radio Shack Hope I didnt make the wrong move.. if so there''s always craigs list

G2x or Sensation?

So I have an upgrade coming in the second week of june, I have the my touch 4g but my my touch slide is eligible for the 2 year upgrade. Do I get the g2x, wait and see if the sensation comes out when its supposed to, or sick with my touch 4g? Or even possible see if the galaxy s2 comes to tmobile? Just want done opinions! Thanks!
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Not another one of these threads...
I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
Say no to sense
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Kidshyy said:
I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
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Engadget had a post today saying that HTC was considering unlocking the bootloader.
In a market where the (good) phones are currently even so far as specs are concerned, a company would be shooting themselves in the foot by restricting a system that the others are leaving open.
My 2 cents.
My other 2 cents is if you can wait, then wait. Play with the Sensation when it comes out. You like it, buy it. You don't, buy the G2x.
My last bit of change, if you are content for the time being with the phone you have, don't jump for either until at least a month after the Sensation has come out. Right now, the G2x user experience for the majority of us is frustrating and I can only imagine the Sensation will be the same. Just wait and see what comes of both of them.
Get all of them!!!!! :d:d:d:d:d
I posted a TON of information why I didn't like the Sensation. The encrypted locked bootloader was high on the list but here are others:
-The Tegra 2 is like 33% more powerful then the dual-core snapdragon
-HDMI/microUSB = No HDMI Out + Charging (since no TV's support the MDLP yet)
-Locked encrypted Bootloader + New Sense = Mercy of HTC for bug fixes
-NVidia pushing devs for enhanced Tegra Apps = No go on non-Tegra devices
-Lower Res Front Camera
It does look like a sexy phone though. We'll see what problems it has out of the box compared to the G2x.
The G2x does have its problems but Tegra chips are new. Most work pretty well out of the box. Most of the issues we have is from the phone shipping with a 2.2 Kernel and everyone is flashing the leaked 2.3.3 rom. The drivers and stuff get funky but we're expected to get an updated kernel soon (the OS was already leaked).
I would agree though that I would wait a few weeks. While the G2x is great, it would be best to know your options to what best suites you. The Sensation is due out soon and you can compare the two side-by-side.
If the bootloader was unlocked, I could "possibly" live with the other stuff.
Wait and see what our big gingerbread update looks like on the g2x because like someone said before, this has been a frustrating experience so far... once we get that bad boy out and assuming it is a stable, quality build with much better driver support then the sky is the limit with this device! it will be the tegra2 flagship phone for the next 18 months
few things about the sensation that bothered me from my n1, and this is an HTC issue, their external speakers are a joke to say the least, poorly positioned, horrible sound, never loud enough... the g2x's external speaker is pretty solid in my opinion. And the HTC cameras are nothing to brag about either. I saw a video of both phones doing 1080p recording and the Sensation had a horrible red-shift problem...
number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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Honestly, I love this phone but the lack of custom ROMs is starting to annoy me. I want a damn MIUI ROM or at least something other than CM7 and EaglesBlood (I love AOSP though but MIUI on top of AOSP would be perfect). HTC phones always seem to end up with the most development behind them and their touch panels are some of the most sensitive in the industry (quite unlike the G2x which annoys the hell out of me sometimes with how hard I have to press on it). I think the tides will start to turn on HTC development though with the locked bootloaders.
That said, between HTC, LG, and Samsung - I'd pick the Samsung. For one, HTC uses Snapdragon chips - Qualcomm has a long (very long) history of promising that their chips will do this, that, the third, and even the fourth - but they never come through. Tegra 3 is coming out this year though and that's going to be a beast to contend with - the Exynos from Samsung absolutely decimates the Tegra 2.
Build quality on my Captivate was phenomenal - I've never had an HTC phone with great build quality - and that's going all the way back to the PPC-6800. There have always been issues. This is my first LG phone and while I enjoy it a lot, the touch panel sensitivity is a huge issue when I'm gaming and really needs to be fixed.
Also, HTC tends to say that the phone has "x" amount of storage space but what really happens (like what happened with the Inspire) is they partition and format it in a way that means you get slightly less than half what they advertise. HTC also has a history of shoddy driver support.
The only pro I see with the HTC is how fast HTC does device updates - that said, they're always sloppy releases and devs have to take them apart anyway - add in the locked bootloader and I don't really see a lot of devs going that way. Also the TegraZone is quickly growing - developers are really taking to the Tegra platform and producing some astounding applications as a result. There is no Qualcomm or Samsung zone and Tegra-optimized applications will not run on another chipset.
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Nothing for sure yet, I think only ATT has been confirmed
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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There has been some rumors that T-Mo is skipping this one for the Hercules, which will be a 4.5" screen beast, but like jlevy said, nothing confirmed yet.

After the Sensation what?

So, the Sensation has been out for a while and for me it has not lived up to my expectations. ICS is right around the corner for me but I'm sure it will make things somewhat more bearable until I do upgrade.
What is everyone planning on replacing their Sensation with?
Yesterday, I got to mess around with the Galaxy Note. All I have to say about that phone is that it is obscenely big. I love it. It's the only phone out now that is something truly different. Too bad it's AT&T.
The only other thing that is currently for sale is the Galaxy Nexus. Other than the fact that it's running ICS there isn't much to get excited about. I think I'm going to just keep my Sensation till the New Nexus phone is released and get on that one early.
I'm not a fan of Samsung's phones or touchwiz but I feel like HTC is just making phones while Samsung is experimenting with new forms and new ideas. If Cyanogemod 9 was out and if it were available on Tmo I'd be all over the Note.
What are you hoping to replace your Sensation with?
after so much Android, I'd like to try an iPhone or a WP7 device. then again I have my XE since one week only so I'm still in love
Replacing it now with Galaxy Nexus, ordered international version on dailysteals. I do not need the latest and greatest but want to have no skins and reliable software. I had custom ROMs since G1 but want to see how reliable is original Google software on hardware they test it with.
Sensation will go to DW who will replace her Vibrant.
Galaxy Note.
Or it's future WP7 equivalent because I can.
I'd go for the next iPhone only if it will have a 4" display. I really want to get myself an iPhone and see for myself what's all the fuss about.
But if Jellybean will be as innovative as ICS was when it launched I will definitely stay with Android and go for the next Nexus.
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I'd go for the next iPhone only if it will have a 4" display. I really want to get myself an iPhone and see for myself what's all the fuss about.
But if Jellybean will be as innovative as ICS was when it launched I will definitely stay with Android and go for the next Nexus.
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Same for me.
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I'd go for the next iPhone only if it will have a 4" display. I really want to get myself an iPhone and see for myself what's all the fuss about.
But if Jellybean will be as innovative as ICS was when it launched I will definitely stay with Android and go for the next Nexus.
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lol there is no fuss, limited close OS with ugly tiles and SMOOTH UI.
Just go and grab am iPod Touch if you really wanna how it looks and acts
I really love the look of new Sony xperias....specially the bottom strip....but i think i need to sacrifice on performance and available rom options if i wanna go with Sony.
Im keeping my sensation for a good while the nexus doesn't worth it 3hours screen on time max bad reception camera isn't great however great display and i have ics on my phone so the gnex isnt so special ...
Will get xperia s once it comes out for canada
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Next one is gonna be a SGS3, hopefully in summer
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So, the Sensation has been out for a while and for me it has not lived up to my expectations. ICS is right around the corner for me but I'm sure it will make things somewhat more bearable until I do upgrade.
What is everyone planning on replacing their Sensation with?
Yesterday, I got to mess around with the Galaxy Note. All I have to say about that phone is that it is obscenely big. I love it. It's the only phone out now that is something truly different. Too bad it's AT&T.
The only other thing that is currently for sale is the Galaxy Nexus. Other than the fact that it's running ICS there isn't much to get excited about. I think I'm going to just keep my Sensation till the New Nexus phone is released and get on that one early.
I'm not a fan of Samsung's phones or touchwiz but I feel like HTC is just making phones while Samsung is experimenting with new forms and new ideas. If Cyanogemod 9 was out and if it were available on Tmo I'd be all over the Note.
What are you hoping to replace your Sensation with?
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Holding out for quad core. Sensation is a great phone for me, minus the dust issue that I'm about to solve with some gasket goo... I'm on phone 4. There really isn't anything spectacular out there for me.
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Want a phone with a camera as good as the iphone camera, let's face it the camera is the only thing it has that's better.
Never had a Sony Xperia phone but have heard that they have some of the best optics and Sony is developer friendly. Too bad the good ones hardly come to the US.
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dam already lol, ima hold out for a bit, dont really see the point of quadcore one my other phones that has a single core proccessor runs just about everything fine
plus dev on this phone seems better than most other phones
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I really love the look of new Sony xperias....specially the bottom strip....but i think i need to sacrifice on performance and available rom options if i wanna go with Sony.
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On the contrary! As someone else said, sony have become very dev friendly and seem committed to updates. Most xperia phones are getting CM builds too.
That being said I'm loyal to HTC for now - sense is the best skin IMO and AOSP also sick and I have the option of both! While the one series looks sick, I think the sensation will do me fine for at least another year. As of right now quad-core isn't a necessity for me... but we'll see
Quad core ? I hope you guys gonna hold whit you 20 extra batteries during your day ! dual core isn't good imagine quad core
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I love HTC and I love Sense and I will be getting the One X on Sprint. The Galaxy Nexus looks appealing but the camera is garbage and since I have a 4 year old the camera is very important to me.
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On the contrary! As someone else said, sony have become very dev friendly and seem committed to updates. Most xperia phones are getting CM builds too.
That being said I'm loyal to HTC for now - sense is the best skin IMO and AOSP also sick and I have the option of both! While the one series looks sick, I think the sensation will do me fine for at least another year. As of right now quad-core isn't a necessity for me... but we'll see
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nice...
yea i guess u would need a heat sink or some kinda fan on the back of a quad core device too cool it down....
Wherever the developers go, and some of the best stick with HTC phones. Prolly gonna end up with the ATT One X if TMo doesn't get it.
I just got my sensation. To be honest, in my opinion, companies comes out with every new versions of everything. But all in all, they're all the same. I was gonna wait for the HTC One S, but I figured, .3 difference on speed, just a little better on screen res. and beats? Not much of a difference, the sensation alone is fast and snappy, there is no reason for me to get anything high end because the sensation itself is a good device that pretty much do all the work. That's just me though AND, the sensation has a lot of love from the DEVs.
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Want a phone with a camera as good as the iphone camera, let's face it the camera is the only thing it has that's better.
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My personal experience is contrary.
My colleagues at work have iphones 4s. They often take photos for documentation. Their pics are generally ok for a phone camera but nothing special.
From what I see on a nearly daily base in real world, iphone photos are in no way superior to the pics I took with my X10i or take with my Sensation, which I think look remarkably clear.
Iphones produce exactly the same amount of crap as other phone cameras do.
Be warned ;-)

Galaxy S Relay 4G Development Thread

So it seems my thread questioning about anyone getting the Relay has turned in the the Dev thread for it since for some reason XDA doesnt want to make a thread dedicated to it. I personally ended up buying a Note 2 which is why I dont follow this thread anymore but I just recieved a PM saying the thread was moved so I figured I would change the title of the thread from "Any one planning on getting the Galaxy Relay 4G" to "Galaxy S Relay 4G Development Thread".
Definitely looking into a replacement for my G2, haven't really seen anything convincing thusfar. With a S4, this just might do it.
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Definitely looking into a replacement for my G2, haven't really seen anything convincing thusfar. With a S4, this just might do it.
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Thats what im thinking. I hope that the rumor of a 5mp camera is wrong and it ends up being an 8mp but even if it is a 5 as long as it has a good sensor and flash ill be happy. So far it seems it will basically be a Galaxy S3 with a 4" screen and a QWERTY minus 1GB ram which really doesnt matter. Ive never owned a samsung before but i guess they are really easy to root with a program from samsung called odin. Hopefully CM will be supporting it.
Either way, it could be the next best upgrade for Desire Z owners. Especially with so many discouraged people with HTC and their policy's. They can keep them, and their phones. No ICS update, not even for related phones where we could bum the driver over. Not to forget how locked down the phone is. Plus Samsung phones are more consistant.
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Either way, it could be the next best upgrade for Desire Z owners. Especially with so many discouraged people with HTC and their policy's. They can keep them, and their phones. No ICS update, not even for related phones where we could bum the driver over. Not to forget how locked down the phone is. Plus Samsung phones are more consistant.
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Yeah Samsung seems to be the way to go these days. HTC locks their bootloaders, both HTC and LG dont provide updates, Sony phones are just not even close to the competition. Samsung provides the ODIN program so you can do what you please with what you paid for plus it seems they are providing pretty decent updates with the S2 and Note both year old devices getting Jelly been. Where my year old G2x is still on GB.
I definitely plan to replace my wife's G2 with the Relay. I've had a Vibrant and now the TMO GS2, I love working with Samsung phones, much easier.
Only if confirmed specs come out. Some new phones that aren't super popular are getting outdated specs like the new mytouch lines by huawei
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Only if confirmed specs come out. Some new phones that aren't super popular are getting outdated specs like the new mytouch lines by huawei
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Yeah those new mytouch phones phones had been rumored for awhile now and the specs of them were outed well before they even came out i mean really a single core phone? Where going to be seeing quad core phones in the states soon
The only tmo mytouch that wasnt terrible was the first one. I had the slide and it was ok but had a locked bootloader and the genuis button is so stupid, never would buy another mytouch. I was really hoping that those rumors of a G3 were true but hopefully this Relay will turn out to be a great phone.
Hot dang that looks promising! Although I do love my g2 it'd be nice to have decent specs
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I'd rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail than use a keyboard made by Samsung.
Or Touchwiz for that matter, at least that mistake of an interface can be fixed with another ROM. Just sayin.
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I'd rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail than use a keyboard made by Samsung.
Or Touchwiz for that matter, at least that mistake of an interface can be fixed with another ROM. Just sayin.
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The keyboard looks nice to me, who knows how it will feel since no one has tried it yet. I agree with the touch wiz but im hoping cm will support it.
What's the problem with Samsung keyboards?
HTC keyboards are the only ones I've liked. The spacing, depth of key press, and layout are the only ones that I've cared to use. Everything else I've tried feels like I'm using something cheaply made.
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I think I'll wait for October. That's when my G1 & G2 came out. If October comes without any solid information on a G3, then I'll migrate over to whatever the next Nexus device might be.
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Either way I'm waiting for my T-Mobile contract to end. Once that happens, I'm going to give T-Mobile a decision to make. Either give me a new phone of my choosing, or I switch carriers. A lot of my friends do this, and they end up with a brand new phone, like Samsung Galaxy S3's, but they're out of contract and desperate to keep you in it.
Carriers tend to give new contracts better deals for phones then those who just got their upgrade. Also, there's a lot of other carriers who offer a lot more for less then the big US carriers.
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I think I'll wait for October. That's when my G1 & G2 came out. If October comes without any solid information on a G3, then I'll migrate over to whatever the next Nexus device might be.
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Idk man id love to see a G3 as much as anyone else here but I dont see it happening especially with the stupid G4x thats going to be coming to tmobile. It wouldnt make sense for them to release a phone named G4x and then a phone named G3. G4x will be just as garbage as the G2x, it will have awesome hardware and a quad core but will have no software support from LG or NVidia.
Do you guys think it will work in sweden? Then someone needs to send me one. Htc can **** off now. To bad i dont like samsung build quality and feel. To plasticky
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With Swype beta I don't really need physical QWERTY anymore. I'm just waiting for next nexus phone(s).
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Looks like an s3 with a keyboard, beautiful.
More pics released! Im feeling it. Hopefully it gets CM support and the power button can be mapped for the camera.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/08/a-full-360-degree-view-of-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-emerges/

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