So I have an upgrade coming in the second week of june, I have the my touch 4g but my my touch slide is eligible for the 2 year upgrade. Do I get the g2x, wait and see if the sensation comes out when its supposed to, or sick with my touch 4g? Or even possible see if the galaxy s2 comes to tmobile? Just want done opinions! Thanks!
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I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
Say no to sense
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I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
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Engadget had a post today saying that HTC was considering unlocking the bootloader.
In a market where the (good) phones are currently even so far as specs are concerned, a company would be shooting themselves in the foot by restricting a system that the others are leaving open.
My 2 cents.
My other 2 cents is if you can wait, then wait. Play with the Sensation when it comes out. You like it, buy it. You don't, buy the G2x.
My last bit of change, if you are content for the time being with the phone you have, don't jump for either until at least a month after the Sensation has come out. Right now, the G2x user experience for the majority of us is frustrating and I can only imagine the Sensation will be the same. Just wait and see what comes of both of them.
Get all of them!!!!! :d:d:d:d:d
I posted a TON of information why I didn't like the Sensation. The encrypted locked bootloader was high on the list but here are others:
-The Tegra 2 is like 33% more powerful then the dual-core snapdragon
-HDMI/microUSB = No HDMI Out + Charging (since no TV's support the MDLP yet)
-Locked encrypted Bootloader + New Sense = Mercy of HTC for bug fixes
-NVidia pushing devs for enhanced Tegra Apps = No go on non-Tegra devices
-Lower Res Front Camera
It does look like a sexy phone though. We'll see what problems it has out of the box compared to the G2x.
The G2x does have its problems but Tegra chips are new. Most work pretty well out of the box. Most of the issues we have is from the phone shipping with a 2.2 Kernel and everyone is flashing the leaked 2.3.3 rom. The drivers and stuff get funky but we're expected to get an updated kernel soon (the OS was already leaked).
I would agree though that I would wait a few weeks. While the G2x is great, it would be best to know your options to what best suites you. The Sensation is due out soon and you can compare the two side-by-side.
If the bootloader was unlocked, I could "possibly" live with the other stuff.
Wait and see what our big gingerbread update looks like on the g2x because like someone said before, this has been a frustrating experience so far... once we get that bad boy out and assuming it is a stable, quality build with much better driver support then the sky is the limit with this device! it will be the tegra2 flagship phone for the next 18 months
few things about the sensation that bothered me from my n1, and this is an HTC issue, their external speakers are a joke to say the least, poorly positioned, horrible sound, never loud enough... the g2x's external speaker is pretty solid in my opinion. And the HTC cameras are nothing to brag about either. I saw a video of both phones doing 1080p recording and the Sensation had a horrible red-shift problem...
number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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Honestly, I love this phone but the lack of custom ROMs is starting to annoy me. I want a damn MIUI ROM or at least something other than CM7 and EaglesBlood (I love AOSP though but MIUI on top of AOSP would be perfect). HTC phones always seem to end up with the most development behind them and their touch panels are some of the most sensitive in the industry (quite unlike the G2x which annoys the hell out of me sometimes with how hard I have to press on it). I think the tides will start to turn on HTC development though with the locked bootloaders.
That said, between HTC, LG, and Samsung - I'd pick the Samsung. For one, HTC uses Snapdragon chips - Qualcomm has a long (very long) history of promising that their chips will do this, that, the third, and even the fourth - but they never come through. Tegra 3 is coming out this year though and that's going to be a beast to contend with - the Exynos from Samsung absolutely decimates the Tegra 2.
Build quality on my Captivate was phenomenal - I've never had an HTC phone with great build quality - and that's going all the way back to the PPC-6800. There have always been issues. This is my first LG phone and while I enjoy it a lot, the touch panel sensitivity is a huge issue when I'm gaming and really needs to be fixed.
Also, HTC tends to say that the phone has "x" amount of storage space but what really happens (like what happened with the Inspire) is they partition and format it in a way that means you get slightly less than half what they advertise. HTC also has a history of shoddy driver support.
The only pro I see with the HTC is how fast HTC does device updates - that said, they're always sloppy releases and devs have to take them apart anyway - add in the locked bootloader and I don't really see a lot of devs going that way. Also the TegraZone is quickly growing - developers are really taking to the Tegra platform and producing some astounding applications as a result. There is no Qualcomm or Samsung zone and Tegra-optimized applications will not run on another chipset.
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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There has been some rumors that T-Mo is skipping this one for the Hercules, which will be a 4.5" screen beast, but like jlevy said, nothing confirmed yet.
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So I have a G2x sitting in my shopping cart on tmo(not upgrading paying outright so no contract extenstion) and I'm faced with a huge choice. Do I buy the LG now or wait for the sensation? Like sense but always run cm for speed so every phone that I had that came with sense stock always was replaced with cm. There are pros and cons to both phones
htc sensation:better display and bigger(I actually like smaller screens)
g2x: more internal memory but less ram
htc is 1.2ghx and the g2x is 1.
It's such a hard choice to make. So my question is for those of you who got the g2x why did you get it instead of waiting for the sensation? What reasons did you have on going with the g2x as opposed to waiting for the htc? I really dont know if I should get the g2x or wait it out a bit. I am itching to hit that "complete order" button on the g2x though
I'd be coming from a mytouch 4g
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So I have a G2x sitting in my shopping cart on tmo(not upgrading paying outright so no contract extenstion) and I'm faced with a huge choice. Do I buy the LG now or wait for the sensation? Like sense but always run cm for speed so every phone that I had that came with sense stock always was replaced with cm. There are pros and cons to both phones
htc sensation:better display and bigger(I actually like smaller screens)
g2x: more internal memory but less ram
htc is 1.2ghx and the g2x is 1.
It's such a hard choice to make. So my question is for those of you who got the g2x why did you get it instead of waiting for the sensation? What reasons did you have on going with the g2x as opposed to waiting for the htc? I really dont know if I should get the g2x or wait it out a bit. I am itching to hit that "complete order" button on the g2x though
I'd be coming from a mytouch 4g
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I don't own a G2X, only played with one alongside my NS for a bit. I don't really know that you're going to notice a huge difference in speed coming from your Glacier on CM7 at 1.5ghz ...it's a really fast phone. Are there some other features you feel like your missing with the Glacier that you could get from the G2X?
Edit: I don't have a G2x in my cart, but I'm itching too as well...!
I was waiting for the Sensation....but I only made it 4 hours on the 15th before giving in and ordering online.
Only thing I like better about the sensation is the qHD display...but the G2X screen is still nice.
I also didnt want a huge screen phone that hardly fits in your pocket, the G2X size is good.
Well, I guess I'll just list my reasons out.
1. I, like you, don't like 4.3" screens, 4" is perfect for me and the display on the G2X is fantastic, even at 800x480 resolution.
2. I figured the .2 difference in ghz wasn't a big deal considering the resolution difference in the phones, 960x480 vs 800x480. As we've all seen, the G2X smokes the Atrix because of resolution alone, despite the 512mb ram difference.
3. Ram isn't going to make the phone run any better as we've already seen in Atrix vs G2X. It will help if your running tons of intensive apps at once, but it shouldn't be making much a difference 90% of the time.
4. A lot of devs are on the fence on supporting the sensation due to locked bootloaders. Even Cyanogen has said that they may not be supporting because of that very issue. And dev support is VERY important to me.
5. HDMI Mirroring on the G2X. This feature may also be on the sensation, but I haven't heard of it yet.
In all, I'm very happy I got the G2X. It runs like a champ and that's on Froyo. I can't wait till Cyanogen7 comes out.
P.S. The Optimus 2X has already been overclocked to 1.3 and 1.4 ghz if that means anything to you.
Hope this helps man. Good luck with whatever you get.
I never want a phone that has Sense on it.
Simple choice.
Well I got it because I'm a phone junkie. And I will be getting the sensation as soon as it drops. The G2x is a great phone much better than the vibrant and when it get GB it will be better than the nexus s.
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I don't own a G2X, only played with one alongside my NS for a bit. I don't really know that you're going to notice a huge difference in speed coming from your Glacier on CM7 at 1.5ghz ...it's a really fast phone. Are there some other features you feel like your missing with the Glacier that you could get from the G2X?
Edit: I don't have a G2x in my cart, but I'm itching too as well...!
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Well just the fact that it's newer tech dual core.. etc..
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Well, I guess I'll just list my reasons out.
1. I, like you, don't like 4.3" screens, 4" is perfect for me and the display on the G2X is fantastic, even at 800x480 resolution.
2. I figured the .2 difference in ghz wasn't a big deal considering the resolution difference in the phones, 960x480 vs 800x480. As we've all seen, the G2X smokes the Atrix because of resolution alone, despite the 512mb ram difference.
3. Ram isn't going to make the phone run any better as we've already seen in Atrix vs G2X. It will help if your running tons of intensive apps at once, but it shouldn't be making much a difference 90% of the time.
4. A lot of devs are on the fence on supporting the sensation due to locked bootloaders. Even Cyanogen has said that they may not be supporting because of that very issue. And dev support is VERY important to me.
5. HDMI Mirroring on the G2X. This feature may also be on the sensation, but I haven't heard of it yet.
In all, I'm very happy I got the G2X. It runs like a champ and that's on Froyo. I can't wait till Cyanogen7 comes out.
P.S. The Optimus 2X has already been overclocked to 1.3 and 1.4 ghz if that means anything to you.
Hope this helps man. Good luck with whatever you get.
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Thanks for that man! Is that true that Cyanogen really might not support the sensation? Dev support is also very important to me. I never rely on carriers, always the community. I too am iffy about a 4.3 inch screen. I think my screen on my mt4g is pretty big enough for me especially since I have two android tablets for when I need a bigger screen android experience
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I never want a phone that has Sense on it.
Simple choice.
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Every sense phone I have had has only had sense on it for a first few minutes out of the box. I love sense for it's eye candy but it's such a resource hog. So I always replace sense with CM
Overall you guys are happy with the g2x? build quality is solid? any issues like bad displays or any nonsense like that?
Im in the same boat. im kinda leaning towards waiting though. The g2x is an awesome device but the larger and higher res screen on the sensation is enough to make me hold off.
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4. A lot of devs are on the fence on supporting the sensation due to locked bootloaders. Even Cyanogen has said that they may not be supporting because of that very issue. And dev support is VERY important to me.
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if this is indeed true then i would get the g2x also. higher res screen (960x540) is nice but not as important as dev support. Btw, where did you read that cyanogen might not support it?
I'm still going back and forth if I'm going to order it or wait.. part of me really wants to just click that order button.. god I think I've made much more important decisions quicker than this one..
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if this is indeed true then i would get the g2x also. higher res screen (960x540) is nice but not as important as dev support. Btw, where did you read that cyanogen might not support it?
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He said it on his Twitter. HTC already announced it will have a locked boot loader. Most devs aren't going to deal with that ****. Poor decision on HTC's part because Samsung has already announced there Galaxy S II will be wide open.
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He said it on his Twitter. HTC already announced it will have a locked boot loader. Most devs aren't going to deal with that ****. Poor decision on HTC's part because Samsung has already announced there Galaxy S II will be wide open.
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is the sgs2 coming to tmobile for sure!?!?!?!?!?
i think im going back to a razor........ f this
Honestly the g2x is an amazing device and couldn't see myself using the sensation for the sole reason of just sense. I had a mytouch 4g for about 2 days and returned it for the g2 all because of sense. Now from the g2 I'm on the g2x and couldn't be happier. It's a choice you have to make but to completely honest it will be one you won't regret
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So all these hours that I've been deciding... I decided to do it. It was in stock when I first put it in my cart, when I went to check out it said it wasnt available for immediate shipment. I looked at the main site and sure enough, it was out of stock Guess I will be calling the closest store in the AM seeing if they have any in stock. After looking at some vids of the sensation I think it's just too big for me. I think the biggest I would go is 4" Hope I can pick one up tomorrow
Hopefully! I'll tell you now my store was pretty well stocked and I was there about 2 hours after they opened. Funny thing is the sametime I was going in I counted about 5 or 6 other people going in for the same thing...good luck! =P
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Honestly the g2x is an amazing device and couldn't see myself using the sensation for the sole reason of just sense. I had a mytouch 4g for about 2 days and returned it for the g2 all because of sense. Now from the g2 I'm on the g2x and couldn't be happier. It's a choice you have to make but to completely honest it will be one you won't regret
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I have a mt4g and I love it. I havent had sense on it....ever. lol The first thing I did when I got it was take it out of the box, root it, installed cwr and then flashed cm 7. I really do like the eye candy of sense but I like my device to be snappy and sense doesnt usually run snappy
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Hopefully! I'll tell you now my store was pretty well stocked and I was there about 2 hours after they opened. Funny thing is the sametime I was going in I counted about 5 or 6 other people going in for the same thing...good luck! =P
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If my closest store doesnt have it I'm sure one of the other 49 retails stores in my 5 mile radius in NYC will have one Tomorrow it is my mission to get one.. "It will be mine....oh yes, it will be mine"
anyone want to buy a mytouch 4g? hahaha
I'm personally waiting on the sensation I have a g2x its a nice phone I only use it for HDMI mirroring only use for me. I'm not scared of lock bootloader just be harder to crack. People said the g2 was unhackable and look at it now. Motorola signs thiers and uses encryption. The thunderbolt was hacked as well. If their is enough support it will be broken. Alot of developers are going still get this phone. The evo3d will be hacked as well once either phone is hacked well have an opening.
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I'm personally waiting on the sensation I have a g2x its a nice phone I only use it for HDMI mirroring only use for me. I'm not scared of lock bootloader just be harder to crack. People said the g2 was unhackable and look at it now. Motorola signs thiers and uses encryption. The thunderbolt was hacked as well. If their is enough support it will be broken. Alot of developers are going still get this phone. The evo3d will be hacked as well once either phone is hacked well have an opening.
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Your really not waiting for the Sensation since you already jumped on the G2x. By the way you must have the worlds greatest will power if you have G2x and are still using your outdated Glacier.....rolls eyes.
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For what its worth here are the benchmarks for the sensation g2x and sgs2 looks like sense is too bloated for the hardware
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Pre-production-HTC-Sensation-benchmarks-leak-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-has-the-upper-hand_id18230
I can order the g2x it from radio shack's website
edit: ok so I did it! I ordered it from Radio Shack Hope I didnt make the wrong move.. if so there''s always craigs list
I've had my G2 since the day it came out and its the best smartphone, and Android phone I've ever had. Despite the little quirks the G2 has that somewhat bother me,I love the look and the fact that the keyboard is amazing. BUT, I'm going to be making the switch to the Sensation when it comes out.
1) I've always wanted a large screen phone. I envy people with a Evo despite my phone will out perform it anyday. I feel like with a 4.3 inch ill be happy no matter what. Playing games will be better especially with the large screen, and the dual core of course will be great too. Eventhough the G2's keyboard is amazingly awesome, I know the larger screen will make up for not having one and ill finally be able to get really handy with Swype.
2) the hardware on the phone is amazing. The dual core is going to be amazingly fast and I feel the phone will gather a large dev community and the roms, kernels etc will be be vast. Not to mention Sense 3.0 is beautiful and will be great to use evenwhen other roms are available.
3) I work for best buy, so the discount will be enough for me to buy outright (or else I wouldn't buy haha).
What about you?
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I'm not sure.. I just came from the G2x and was really in love with it minus the F'ed up screen. I'm thinking about holding out for a similar G2 with Dual Core or even Quad Core capability. This G2 is so nice after fixing the hinge. I'm very satisfied.
Coming from an N900 I've always thought I had to had a keyboard and but after using Swype, HTC IME and every other onscreen keyboard featured I end up using the onscreen 90% of the time anyway.
Now on to the reason I'm getting the Sensation.. my best bud and gadget rival got a Thunderbolt and the G2 looks puny compared to it! Haha.
I'm a big fan of 4.3" form factor after having my HD2. In fact at 10 months was the longest I ever owned a phone. I still consider it ergonomically the best phone I've ever used (for me). I've been waiting for something similar in Android form to come out to Tmo for quite a while. G2 was really a stop gap for me waiting for a 4.3" Tmo phone.
I'm tempted by the Sensation...
I find myself only using the desire Z keyboard for long emails, otherwise the onscreen keyboard does the job nice.
I already have a Bluetooth keyboard and as the Sensation supports the Bluetooth HID profile, i'm hoping that I would be able to use that with the Sensation.
The big screen is definitely appealing!
you have tot think its not only a 4.3 incher, but it has a qhd screen. for seem this seems like this could be as big as when the evo launcher. just because its the first phone with sense 3.0 and all of these yummy specs. and someone referring to having a phone with dual core, and a slide out keyboard i think youll probably be in luck. though its not the next g2, it is the mytouch 4g slide and it has alot of the goodies the sensation has plus a slide out. i can imagine a g3 will be in the works considering how fast phones are developing these days.
Wonder when we can expect the g3 if possible...i would probably pass on the sensation atm.
I am interested in it, but I will wait for a few weeks to get it because there are bound to be glitches and problems with it.
Locked bootloader = no dice
HTC was once a great but SE is looking the best for Android now. HW isn't much currently but hell, they give you the option to unlock the bootloader and even instructions to make your own kernel.
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Locked bootloader = no dice
HTC was once a great but SE is looking the best for Android now. HW isn't much currently but hell, they give you the option to unlock the bootloader and even instructions to make your own kernel.
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exactly. as soon as I see that they locked the bootloader, I just have nothing else to say... I wish they would continue doing what they did way back when and not worry about what rom we put on our phone. it's not like we're reverse engineering the phone to create a clone of the actual device and software to sell for profits.
This forum is only now starting to hit it's stride. It will be ages before the sensation forum can even come close to what our devs have done here. And for someone like me, that is just as important as the actual phone hardware itself.
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This forum is only now starting to hit it's stride. It will be ages before the sensation forum can even come close to what our devs have done here. And for someone like me, that is just as important as the actual phone hardware itself.
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Have to agree, but even though the Sensation will come all locked up, it's still the first dual core HTC phone. There will be a lot of people with it.
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Have to agree, but even though the Sensation will come all locked up, it's still the first dual core HTC phone. There will be a lot of people with it.
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Did anyone ever crack any of the motorola locked bootloaders? Last I heard no one ever did and genius's have been working on that for years with bounties worth 1000s. If this is anything like that its gonna be a dead end. Nothing but roms based on the stock with slight tweaks. Not interested.
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Did anyone ever crack any of the motorola locked bootloaders? Last I heard no one ever did and genius's have been working on that for years with bounties worth 1000s. If this is anything like that its gonna be a dead end. Nothing but roms based on the stock with slight tweaks. Not interested.
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We should wait and see what happens with the Incredible S.
i def know what youre saying with the sign bootloader. from what ive read, its not nearly as bad the moto bootloaders. i know there was an issue with the thunderbolt being locked..but whadda know! its unlocked, and roms are being flashed, etc. the g2 took quite some time before it was officially rooted. i have high hopes for the sensation being unlocked and from what ive read throughout websites that others do too. regardless of the bootloader ever being cracked, the phone is amazing with everything it offers and ill be getting it anyway. the new sense is going to be AMAZING, and itll hold me over until the phone is rooted.
Bye. My touch 4g, it's been almost a year, we had an awesome run, and your still one of my favorites, but Ive moved on to the g2x, and I haven't had any of the problems other are experiencing , this is a pretty awesome phone and I don't regret it, but if a new mytouch from HTC comes out ill be sure to go with that, until then ill be rocking the g2x.
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Enjoy Is it really the fast and that nice?
That is one of the phones I am contemplating jumping ship for, how is LGs UI? You'll have to give a small review if you don't mind. Not sure if I want to go G2X or Sensation. Never owned an LG but I loooove HTC. Either way, good luck with the new phone.
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Thanks guys, as for the phone itself its awesome I'm running bionix2, so I didn't really get accustomed to the stock UI, the screen itself is larger so typing is easier, and the colors seem allot deeper, I do miss my led notification light but that can be replaced with mods to the capasitive buttons (someone will come up with that), and the sensation is actually running a older processor arm a8 clocked at 1.2ghz vs the g2x arm a9 processer at 1ghz, so its actually better to get the g2x, I haven't had any problems and the update will fix any bugs, and by the time the sensation comes out the update will be released so either way I'm good.
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Bye. My touch 4g, it's been almost a year, we had an awesome run, and your still one of my favorites, but Ive moved on to the g2x, and I haven't had any of the problems other are experiencing , this is a pretty awesome phone and I don't regret it, but if a new mytouch from HTC comes out ill be sure to go with that, until then ill be rocking the g2x.
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I've been thinking of doing the same. I'm so fed up with HTC's lack of quality control that I've been looking at picking up a used Vibrant.
I love this device but after 7 phones, FINALLY getting a perfect phone and now a few months later having dust under the screen the romance is gone.
Let us know how it goes with the g2x. Maybe when the sensation comes out I'll give HTC another chance.
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Yeah, ill keep u guys posted.
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I've been thinking of doing the same. I'm so fed up with HTC's lack of quality control that I've been looking at picking up a used Vibrant.
I love this device but after 7 phones, FINALLY getting a perfect phone and now a few months later having dust under the screen the romance is gone.
Let us know how it goes with the g2x. Maybe when the sensation comes out I'll give HTC another chance.
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I feel EXACTLY the same way. Took my 5 phones to get to my perfect good screen then one month later dust under the top left corner of my screen.... And it's just getting worse. I love HTC but they quality control is horrendous. I don't care what people say about Samsung and their quality, but they make damn god phone's whether it's plastic or not. I've been trying to trade my phone for a Nexus S just because of this.
No problems here...
This is very interesting to read the users on this forum have exchanged their MT4G seven times. I have had absolutely no problems with my phone and I purchased it when it was released.
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This is very interesting to read the users on this forum have exchanged their MT4G seven times. I have had absolutely no problems with my phone and I purchased it when it was released.
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I got mine when it came out and it has the crap screen, but that was the only problem. But a few weeks ago i got a deal on one i couldn't pass on,with the good screen. I might sell that one, but i got a bad habit of keeping all my phones. Lol
I agree with the OP too, don't get the sensation. The CPU in it is actually outdated and QualComm already has a Quad-Core CPU in the works. Go with a Mali device or Tegra 2/3 .
G2x is quality control isn't that good either. My G2x has the worst LCD I've ever seen. It bleeds from all 4 corners and the battery only last 8 hours. I am running my own aosp rom.
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G2x is quality control isn't that good either. My G2x has the worst LCD I've ever seen. It bleeds from all 4 corners and the battery only last 8 hours. I am running my own aosp rom.
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That's not encouraging...
Side question: Will football's pd15img.zip overwrite gfree or do I have to do that separately?
I really just can't bring myself to purchase anything produced by LG.....It is such a Sh** brand. I would rather a company that focuses on making one thing great than a bunch of things mediocre. Great, you put a sweet processor in your phone..you still suck LG.
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I really just can't bring myself to purchase anything produced by LG.....It is such a Sh** brand. I would rather a company that focuses on making one thing great than a bunch of things mediocre. Great, you put a sweet processor in your phone..you still suck LG.
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So definitely no Samsung products for you, since they make more differentiating products than any manufacturer. The G2x is having problems, just go look at their forums, but a patch is coming out soon that should alleviate the problems, except for the LCD bleeding.
I have to say, a ton of LG Optimus Ts get sold I have never had to do troubleshooting on one. I would say most calls are about HTC or Motorola products. In my own personal experience of troubleshooting, I'd say the manufacturers that make many different products seem to have the least problem phones, when compared to the phone only manufacturers.
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So definitely no Samsung products for you, since they make more differentiating products than any manufacturer. The G2x is having problems, just go look at their forums, but a patch is coming out soon that should alleviate the problems, except for the LCD bleeding.
I have to say, a ton of LG Optimus Ts get sold I have never had to do troubleshooting on one. I would say most calls are about HTC or Motorola products. In my own personal experience of troubleshooting, I'd say the manufacturers that make many different products seem to have the least problem phones, when compared to the phone only manufacturers.
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You are correct. I would not own a samsung phone either...they should stick with televisions. Also, look at the time the G2X came out. To think that it was worth upgrading from the glacier with the next wave of great phones coming out shortly is just silly.
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You are correct. I would not own a samsung phone either...they should stick with televisions. Also, look at the time the G2X came out. To think that it was worth upgrading from the glacier with the next wave of great phones coming out shortly is just silly.
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The people with a good G2x, which is most, absolutely love their phone and the patch should fix the rest. Remember HTC made the HD2 and Motorola made the Cliq & Cliq XT. I cringe when I hear someone having a problem and I know exactly which line has the problem because one of the 3 phones above are the culprit. 1
Even with the G2x issues, LG and Samsung have a better track record than Motorola and HTC is problems with phones.
That may be true, they may love their phones. But to buy the G2X when the next big wave is about to come out makes no sense to me whatsoever. It is like purchasing a 2010 Ferrari a month before the 2011 comes out. (I use that example because smart phones are usually the same price, and that is a car where the price is not an issue). And as for the quality issue, I have never had an issue whatsoever with an HTC phone. I am a firm believer that 99% of the issues are user related. Like the guy who had 7 Mt4G's that wouldn't wake up on the stock ROM..c'mon now..
I loved HTC until recently. Had a flawless mt3g for almost a year and sold it for exactly what I paid for it. Here's the history with my glaciers.
1. Dust under screen.
2. Mushy power button and bad screen.
3. Bad screen.
4. Loud click from bottom.
5. Less loud click.
6. Keeper.
Three months later I have massive dust under screen.
7. Bad screen.
8. Mushy power button, scuffed up, bad emmc chip.
9. Bad screen.
At this point I gave up. I'm staying with #6 and shopping for a used Vibrant.
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Like I said, you may be right. Maybe I just got lucky to get a good phone. I have had absolutely no issues. Good screen, good emmc chip, no dust under screen. I just associate LG with crappy products. I still would have waited for the Sensation.
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That may be true, they may love their phones. But to buy the G2X when the next big wave is about to come out makes no sense to me whatsoever.
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What phones are coming out that outdo it? The G2x will get 2.3 very soon and has a tegra 2 processor that won't be outdone by the Sensation's chip. It may be faster processing speed(200Mhz) but many think the Tegra 2 processor is still faster than the Qualcomm.
You'll choose the Sensation if you want a 4.3" screen and the G2x if you want a 4" screen. They're made for different people, with speed and abilities being pretty well equal. The next jump won't happen until this fall with the quad-core processors.
hey guys i know there are alot of posts like this but i just wanted to see what amaze owners and samsung GS2 owners thought about the phones...
im getting a new phone today and want to know what you hate and like about the Samsung Galaxy 2.
Thanks everyone,
Zach
LogikWear said:
hey guys i know there are alot of posts like this but i just wanted to see what amaze owners and samsung GS2 owners thought about the phones...
im getting a new phone today and want to know what you hate and like about the Samsung Galaxy 2.
Thanks everyone,
Zach
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LogikWear said:
hey guys i know there are alot of posts like this but i just wanted to see what amaze owners and samsung GS2 owners thought about the phones...
im getting a new phone today and want to know what you hate and like about the Samsung Galaxy 2.
Thanks everyone,
Zach
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I'm most likely getting a phone today as well and I'll be going with the Gs2 because it has root and a few devs already working or getting ready to root. Not to mention the lack of the signal issues of the Amaze and the 4.5in screen.
So the amaze has had signal problemm? And thank for responding... ive read the topics about the amaze and sgs2 also youtuve videos but just cant decide lol
I've been going back and forth between the Amaze and Samsung for over a week now, reading reviews, looking at Youtube clips and playing with both at several stores. Initially I really liked the Galaxy. Then I played with an Amaze and really started to like that. Then I found more and more reviews of how awful the battery life is with the Amaze and people having overheating issues and screen bleed with the capacitive buttons.
The only two real gripes I've had with the Galaxy so far would be the blue/gray tint that I've seen on every handset I've tried so far with respect to white backgrounds/websites. It may not be readily apparent at first but after a few minutes I noticed something isn't quite right with the color temperature/balance. When compared to my current phone and the Amaze, whites simply just do not look white at all. Maybe others don't have this problem but the 4 or 5 handsets I've played with all did. The other grip is the resolution...I still can't understand why they'd put a WVGA resolution on a screen so big. Everything is just ridiculously huge. On the plus side with that though, I found a font replacement app in the market that's free and I downloaded it and installed a smaller system font and that seemed to help a little. Of course icons and such are still huge but at least text isn't as gigantic.
Finally I was waiting to see what the new Nexus Galaxy was going to be all about. I have to say I was slightly underwhelmed by it. The resolution and screen look awesome but other facets just don't scream out "buy me". Looks like it will be on sale for $300 at some point for T-Mo, but when that is, who knows. I can get the SGS2 for $200 so the extra $100 does play a bit of a factor too.
Good luck with your decision. Good luck with mine too, although I am around 80% or more sure I'll be giving the Galaxy a whirl...
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So the amaze has had signal problemm? And thank for responding... ive read the topics about the amaze and sgs2 also youtuve videos but just cant decide lol
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Check out the post in the Amaze section about issues and then check out our issues and make your decision from there. The Amaze has a few hardware issues. We have a few software issues. Remember software can be fixed, hardware can not.
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OuncE718 said:
Check out the post in the Amaze section about issues and then check out our issues and make your decision from there. The Amaze has a few hardware issues. We have a few software issues. Remember software can be fixed, hardware can not.
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Lies and trickery. Hardware can be fixed...with a hammer
haha sounds good thanks guys it looks like im getting the SGS2 unless something pops up and changes my mind... but its a good point hardware cant be fixed (unless with a hammer lol ) but software can... and i dont think i want to hit the amaze with a hammer to fix the hardware problem
is there a wway to make your icons smaller on the SGS2? also on the vibrant did people get sense to work? i like how sense ran and looked and i hope they have it where we can get it on the SGS2
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Lies and trickery. Hardware can be fixed...with a hammer
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Lol. Or by returning it for a GS2.
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LogikWear said:
haha sounds good thanks guys it looks like im getting the SGS2 unless something pops up and changes my mind... but its a good point hardware cant be fixed (unless with a hammer lol ) but software can... and i dont think i want to hit the amaze with a hammer to fix the hardware problem
is there a wway to make your icons smaller on the SGS2? also on the vibrant did people get sense to work? i like how sense ran and looked and i hope they have it where we can get it on the SGS2
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I don't remember Sense ever being ported to any Samsung device other than the Nexus S and it didn't run that well mainly because of the hardware difference. Most HTC phones are equipped with Snapdragon and the Nexus S and Vibrant had the hummingbird processor. I think we might actually see a decent running version of Sense since we share the same processor and gpu as the Amaze and other HTC devices. Things such as image resizing and reprogramming the capacitive buttons might be the only major obstacle devs might face. I could be wrong.
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I am sure they are both very nice devices. I feel in love with the amaze so why do I have a sgs2. I like samsungs phones and I felt the amaze was heavy.
everyone quotes build quality and all. But I actually like my device light. I also preferred the bigger screen.
My main deciding factor was software. while I was digging sense. I realized that it eliminated the need for any 3rd party software.
I believe in supporting application developers. I do that in hopes that they will create more apps.
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I don't remember Sense ever being ported to any Samsung device other than the Nexus S and it didn't run that well mainly because of the hardware difference. Most HTC phones are equipped with Snapdragon and the Nexus S and Vibrant had the hummingbird processor. I think we might actually see a decent running version of Sense since we share the same processor and gpu as the Amaze and other HTC devices. Things such as image resizing and reprogramming the capacitive buttons might be the only major obstacle devs might face. I could be wrong.
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You can't port sense properly without having proper htc software it has nothing to do with the processor. Unless htc open sources you will not see sense ported properly to samsung devices.
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You can't port sense properly without having proper htc software it has nothing to do with the processor. Unless htc open sources you will not see sense ported properly to samsung devices.
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I thought HTC made a statement about making Sense open source for devs? I could be wrong, but I remember reading it somewhere.
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that would be cool
OuncE718 said:
I thought HTC made a statement about making Sense open source for devs? I could be wrong, but I remember reading it somewhere.
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HTC announced the launch of their HTCdev platform. It is intended to give HTC developers knowledge and tools to better integrate their apps with HTC Sense. Besides the tutorials, best practices, documentation and support, the portal will also offer the OpenSense SDK providing APIs for 3D display and stylus support. Its not actually the stuff you need to get sense to run. On a non htc device.
Samsung galaxy s2
I contemplated which phone to get for over a week. I was coming from a Sensation, which was rooted and running a custom rom. I went and checked out both the Amaze and the GSII several times. I liked the weight and design of the Amaze. I was concerned that the GSII might be too big and feel too plasticky. Also, I didn't like TouchWiz, at least from what I saw of it and could tolerate Sense. The only thing that concerned me about the Amaze was it seemed to have heat/battery issues as well as signal issues.
With all that said, for whatever reason, I ordered the GSII from Customer Loyalty. Even while waiting for me phone to arrive, I was doubting my decision. Well, now that it's arrived, I clearly made the right choice. What a great phone. Screen is brilliant, no issues whatsoever, and I was able to root it the day I got it. There are a few little things that irk me, but no regrets here.
Hope this helps.
Id wait to see if the Amaze gets unlocked and steady root before deciding. Screen is superior but damn thing is heavy and thick.
Both TW and Sense SUCK. Biggest difference is who will get a good ICS Rom first. Dev support for SGS2 is much much stronger.
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Id wait to see if the Amaze gets unlocked and steady root before deciding. Screen is superior but damn thing is heavy and thick.
Both TW and Sense SUCK. Biggest difference is who will get a good ICS Rom first. Dev support for SGS2 is much much stronger.
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there's perma root already for Amaze
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/one-click-perma-root-for-amaze-4g/
Based on build quality alone I'd go with the Samsung device.
Plus, the drivers are of course better optimized. Sammy has stepped it up to new heights with their software in the latest android devices. Too bad the galaxy nexus doesn't look as optimized as the GSII
So with all the problems the G2x is currently having especially with LG, I have come to the conclusion to ditch this phone. LG has terrible support and everybody here knows this. We aren't getting ICS and it's the last straw for me. Yes we will get "cm9" but without an official version we will not be able to fully take advantage of the tegra2 processor in our phones. Some of you don't understand this...
Anyways I have two options:
Sensation:
Great development
Already confirmed ICS
or the Slide:
Not as great development
But has better hardware
*almost sure this is getting ICS as HTC has claimed they are updating their phones.
This might be a war between a hardware keyboard or not but I want it to be further than that. Which has better quality control, and which will be the better phone in the long run?
By far, the Sensation.
qHD is bomb.
Powered by a G2x
I don't like sliders.
I had a HTC Touch Pro and hated it. Onscreen keyboards work so much better for typing.
Sensation would have my Vote IF I had to pick. But I'd pick the G2x over the Sensation. It's faster. As far as qHD, you can do the same thing with the G2x by simply changing the DPI to "190".
Is the amaze just outta the question? I don't have the mytouch but I do own a g2x, sensation, and amaze.. My break down would be.. Camera: amaze hands down, then sensation, then g2x.. Screen: amaze, g2x, sensation (possibly got the crappy screen, kinda yellow and washed out). battery: g2x hands down, sensation, amaze. Performance: really tough to say.. The amaze is completely stock. Sensation and g2x are running cm7.. Dev support: sensation hands down, g2x, amaze (although xboarder is a freaking machine and cranking out roms like a madman, and more devs are starting to move over to it).. Of course this is IMO.. Mileage may vary...
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Well I left out the amaze because its not one of the options Tmobile gives for an exchange. I know about the DPI mod...
Seems like the sensation is getting the most love. I just wish the g2x would get an official ics update..
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You know what, buy a sensation and move to the sensation forum!!
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I don't think the stock ROM accepts DPI changes without bootlooping...
player911 said:
As far as qHD, you can do the same thing with the G2x by simply changing the DPI to "190".
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When you say they offered you either phone, did you have to go through 3 exchanges first?
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Well LG stated today that they are releasing ICS on the O2x and other high end smartphones.... so that's probably a go with the G2x and ICS.
I've heard several bad things about the sensation regarding touch screen responsiveness and a total crappy looking screen... also the WiFi/Landscape issue seemed pretty bad. Just bad build quality.
I also don't understand what you mean by CM9 won't be able to take advantage of our Tegras? Almost EVERY tablet released has a Tegra2 chipset and most are getting ICS (my Asus Transformer confirmed by end of the year).... so I don't know where you are getting this weird info. ICS has support for Dual-Core chips and allows GPU accelerated UI.
If you plan on getting a Sensation and are opened to community support, then why aren't you happy with the G2x and community support? I'm running CM7 now (#180) and GPS locks quick and everything just works well.
The Sensation is a step backwards from the G2x. Slower CPU/GPU.
Shaddy-Z. said:
Well I left out the amaze because its not one of the options Tmobile gives for an exchange. I know about the DPI mod...
Seems like the sensation is getting the most love. I just wish the g2x would get an official ics update..
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What did you do to get them to exchange for a different phone?
Get the sensation, sell it locally on Cl for 400 then rebuy. the g2x for 200. That's what I might do.
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I just pulled my galaxy S out the drawer for kicks. Updated it with CM7. I may run it a while.
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we will be getting ISC, of course. Come on, it is defiantely in the top 5 beastest phones. No ISC is ridiculous.
aplsux said:
we will be getting ISC, of course. Come on, it is defiantely in the top 5 beastest phones. No ISC is ridiculous.
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It is ridiculous because the G2X will NEVER get ISC, but within time I'm sure it will get ICS.
Hercules Hercules!!
htc2364 said:
It is ridiculous because the G2X will NEVER get ISC, but within time I'm sure it will get ICS.
Hercules Hercules!!
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i guess one way to find out...
Shaddy-Z. said:
So with all the problems the G2x is currently having especially with LG, I have come to the conclusion to ditch this phone. LG has terrible support and everybody here knows this. We aren't getting ICS and it's the last straw for me. Yes we will get "cm9" but without an official version we will not be able to fully take advantage of the tegra2 processor in our phones. Some of you don't understand this...
Anyways I have two options:
Sensation:
Great development
Already confirmed ICS
or the Slide:
Not as great development
But has better hardware
*almost sure this is getting ICS as HTC has claimed they are updating their phones.
This might be a war between a hardware keyboard or not but I want it to be further than that. Which has better quality control, and which will be the better phone in the long run?
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Neither, even if we didn't get ics on g2x it still blows most phones out the game. Ya lg and mostly nvidia suck for not supporting the phone as much as they should, but people will always find reasons to ***** and whine about phones.
Even I complain about not having enough internal storage for these 500-600 dollar devices. I friggin hate apps2sd and apps2ext, they always lead to missing apps or corruption. I dont want a partitoned phone so it can have an internal sdcard, thats what those 16-32gb external cards are for. I want an android phone that has 16gb of non partitioned internal storage just for apps and games!
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ew neither wtf
get the nexus prime or galaxy or w.e its called if you wanna suck the support ****
or get sgs2 hd, or the s note oh my gwuuaaaad oohohghafgadfldmfn
or wait for the bbx phones
also 4.0 is more or less confirmed for this phone, and even if it wasn't historically speaking all the new upgrades were all applied on all the devices before like even the first official upgrade (which all suck ass)
xali said:
ew neither wtf
get the nexus prime or galaxy or w.e its called if you wanna suck the support ****
or get sgs2 hd, or the s note oh my gwuuaaaad oohohghafgadfldmfn
or wait for the bbx phones
also 4.0 is more or less confirmed for this phone, and even if it wasn't historically speaking all the new upgrades were all applied on all the devices before like even the first official upgrade (which all suck ass)
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So.....How does that make you feel?
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Is the Sensation better than the GS2?
That's funny
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