The Sensation is not what you want.This device may fall under the category with the Droid X and the Atrix. There is barely any support for either device. I suggest you ride it out with the G2X because support and roms will come in a bundle sooner or later. The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I am too. Ill have to see what happens.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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The atrix is motorola's flagship phone as well.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
babluc said:
This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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Yep and look at it now.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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No because the only reason the THunderbolt was unlocked was because of a leaked old ROM that wasn't locked down. Total luck.
I just came from an atrix and there is one dev cooking roms. (He has two). While they were both awesome its not a whole lot...we have more development here in two weeks then they had in 3 months. The atrix has more ram which is its only advantage....I always had like 700 mb ram available.....so for me the extra ram didn't benefit me. I was tempted to get the nexus s due to it being pure google but the fact that its a samsung phone (had alot of problems with galaxy s) and with dual core phones coming out I figured I would skip it. The g2x is what the nexus s should have shipped with. Dual core tegra.
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Motorola was a big name in Android because of the $100MM in marketing they and Verizon spent to put Android on the map with the "Droid does" campaign. Once HTC and Samsung got with the program Motorola's market share has been steadily declining. They're also primarily a North American player where Samsung and HTC are global. Both the SGS2 and Sensation will each individually sell more units than the entire Motorola Android product line. Spec wise the Atrix is a good comparison but sales and acceptance wise not so much. I at least give them credit for going back to the drawing board on the Bionic rather than launching what would have been an already dated phone.
Assuming all future Samsung and HTC phones are based off the internals of the SGS2 and Sensation, the impact of what you're saying is devs are going to stop working on Samsung and HTC phones. I find that hard to accept. Especially when the SGS2 and Sensation (and their derivatives) are expected to sell in the millions of units. Only time will tell.
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I Put My Nexus S Up On CL. Right Away I Got Offer After Offer. My Best Offer Is A Brand New In Box Vibrant 4G/ T-Mobile Sam sung Galaxy S 4G. I'm Kind Of Stuck. I Went On line To Search For Battles And Comparisons But Barely Found Any. Just Separate Reviews. Should I Stick With The Nexus S, Or Should I Give It Up For The New Vibrant? In Your Eyes Honestly Who Do You Think Is The Winner Overall And Why? Thanks For Your Help.
Frankly after reading engadgets review of the sgs4g it doesn't seem worth it. Hell they even said they wouldn't give up a ns for it.
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Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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Then why are you even asking? I'm not trying to be mean but do what feels right. I saw your thread in the marketplace and you seemed determined to get rid of your Nexus S. I agree with the posters above I would never give up a "Nexus Phone" for a phone that's got not only a crappy touchwiz skin on it, but is loaded with crapware. But whatever....
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sell it and be happy (or sad)
zephiK said:
Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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exactly my thoughts...
i was eyeing the SGS 4G (vibrant+FFC+4G)... and in the end after reading our local SGS 4G forum, i decided no way....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1065
it wont attract enough development, with the SGS2 (which also has 4G) looming close to shore
i'm holding out for SGS2, and i'll still keep the Nexus S
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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That's what I did with my G1. I had it since the first day the G1 came out and held onto it onto the Vibrant. Even though there are dual-core processor phones out its not really appealing to me.
Why? Quad cores are reportedly coming out later this year. There are just way too many factors in a phone that I take into account if it's worth getting. The Vibrant? huge mistake in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, it's a great phone but it didn't really fit into my persona.
I'm a huge fan of CyanogenMod. Without CM, I personally don't find it to be a phone that I would be interested in. Sure, custom ROMs are built and all that but they're all based off the OTA. I'm more interested in ROMs that are compiled from AOSP source.
All the Vibrant ROMs were pretty much based off the OTA, so in reality.. it's really the same ROM but themed to look differently with a few things changed here and there. People would say its faster than X ROM but really? its just the placebo effect, of course when you flash a new ROM it'll feel faster. But in order to determine if its faster, you gotta use it for a few days and see how the ROM runs on the phone long-term.
I'm pretty satisfied with the Nexus S, ROM development is starting to kick in. I've also heard reports of Nexus S lacking development, but honestly. Quality > Quantity.
We can have over 10 ROMs but if they're all based off OTA with a few eye-candy changes, its not really much. But with a CM7 base, its huge.
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If you just want a change and you're going to sell the sgs 4g in another month for something else because that's how you roll do it. Why even ask? You will get no love for trading the ns on this forum.
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[hfm] said:
If you just want a change and you're going to sell the sgs 4g in another month for something else because that's how you roll do it. Why even ask? You will get no love for trading the ns on this forum.
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+1.. same with other forums, that's like going to the Atrix 4G forum and asking if its worth it.. a lot of people will say it is just because its their phone. Biased posts.
In the end, its really your decision. But I think majority of the users (at least on here) can agree that NS -> SGS4G isnt a good idea
Its been a while since I have posted here, but as I did not see a thread dedicated to this yet other then the previous one in the dev section about HTC reviewing their policy. Here is what Htc Said Today.
HTC
Devs, we’re making lots of progress on unlocking bootloaders: Today we can confirm the HTC Sensation and HTC EVO 3D will be supported! See out note for more info:
Update on Bootloaders
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback. **UPDATE** We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR **UPDATE 7/10** <!-- p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 48.0px; font: 15.0px Calibri} --> We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience. We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments. HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
By: HTC
While this is very promising to us, keep in mind there are still other restrictions they are trying to use to crack down on the dev community.
Such as Providers working with google, reviewing which devices by imei will not take an update, and possibly deactivating service from there... I don't remember the link to the site that was talking about it, as I am on a new computer and it was book marked on my crashed one.
If any one has the link please feel free to share.
Where you been mudknot? You didn't get an infuse or something did you?
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
Windows 7 and an XBOX 360?
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mudknot2005 said:
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.
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Windows 7 and an XBOX 360?
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Naa just a laptop that I got on clearance. I already have the three major systems.
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Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.
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I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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mudknot2005 said:
I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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I hear ya. Luckily this phone has given me the patience to be able to wait for a holiday-type phone from ATT.
I didn't feel that way when I had the cappy. Two months with that phone and I was already begging ATT to come out with something better... The inspire will hold me over just fine.
The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)
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The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)
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Judging by past HTC phones I would say it will more likely be around 500-600
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mudknot2005 said:
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.
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That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.
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Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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mudknot2005 said:
Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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Sir, that's a win.
Back on topic here. The article I read stated that even though HTC wll come up with a tool to unlock the bootloaders, it would require approval from the carriers to be released. What are the odds? This just seems like a big ploy to put the finger soley on the carriers.
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So with all the problems the G2x is currently having especially with LG, I have come to the conclusion to ditch this phone. LG has terrible support and everybody here knows this. We aren't getting ICS and it's the last straw for me. Yes we will get "cm9" but without an official version we will not be able to fully take advantage of the tegra2 processor in our phones. Some of you don't understand this...
Anyways I have two options:
Sensation:
Great development
Already confirmed ICS
or the Slide:
Not as great development
But has better hardware
*almost sure this is getting ICS as HTC has claimed they are updating their phones.
This might be a war between a hardware keyboard or not but I want it to be further than that. Which has better quality control, and which will be the better phone in the long run?
By far, the Sensation.
qHD is bomb.
Powered by a G2x
I don't like sliders.
I had a HTC Touch Pro and hated it. Onscreen keyboards work so much better for typing.
Sensation would have my Vote IF I had to pick. But I'd pick the G2x over the Sensation. It's faster. As far as qHD, you can do the same thing with the G2x by simply changing the DPI to "190".
Is the amaze just outta the question? I don't have the mytouch but I do own a g2x, sensation, and amaze.. My break down would be.. Camera: amaze hands down, then sensation, then g2x.. Screen: amaze, g2x, sensation (possibly got the crappy screen, kinda yellow and washed out). battery: g2x hands down, sensation, amaze. Performance: really tough to say.. The amaze is completely stock. Sensation and g2x are running cm7.. Dev support: sensation hands down, g2x, amaze (although xboarder is a freaking machine and cranking out roms like a madman, and more devs are starting to move over to it).. Of course this is IMO.. Mileage may vary...
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Well I left out the amaze because its not one of the options Tmobile gives for an exchange. I know about the DPI mod...
Seems like the sensation is getting the most love. I just wish the g2x would get an official ics update..
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You know what, buy a sensation and move to the sensation forum!!
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I don't think the stock ROM accepts DPI changes without bootlooping...
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As far as qHD, you can do the same thing with the G2x by simply changing the DPI to "190".
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When you say they offered you either phone, did you have to go through 3 exchanges first?
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Well LG stated today that they are releasing ICS on the O2x and other high end smartphones.... so that's probably a go with the G2x and ICS.
I've heard several bad things about the sensation regarding touch screen responsiveness and a total crappy looking screen... also the WiFi/Landscape issue seemed pretty bad. Just bad build quality.
I also don't understand what you mean by CM9 won't be able to take advantage of our Tegras? Almost EVERY tablet released has a Tegra2 chipset and most are getting ICS (my Asus Transformer confirmed by end of the year).... so I don't know where you are getting this weird info. ICS has support for Dual-Core chips and allows GPU accelerated UI.
If you plan on getting a Sensation and are opened to community support, then why aren't you happy with the G2x and community support? I'm running CM7 now (#180) and GPS locks quick and everything just works well.
The Sensation is a step backwards from the G2x. Slower CPU/GPU.
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Well I left out the amaze because its not one of the options Tmobile gives for an exchange. I know about the DPI mod...
Seems like the sensation is getting the most love. I just wish the g2x would get an official ics update..
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What did you do to get them to exchange for a different phone?
Get the sensation, sell it locally on Cl for 400 then rebuy. the g2x for 200. That's what I might do.
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I just pulled my galaxy S out the drawer for kicks. Updated it with CM7. I may run it a while.
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we will be getting ISC, of course. Come on, it is defiantely in the top 5 beastest phones. No ISC is ridiculous.
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we will be getting ISC, of course. Come on, it is defiantely in the top 5 beastest phones. No ISC is ridiculous.
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It is ridiculous because the G2X will NEVER get ISC, but within time I'm sure it will get ICS.
Hercules Hercules!!
htc2364 said:
It is ridiculous because the G2X will NEVER get ISC, but within time I'm sure it will get ICS.
Hercules Hercules!!
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i guess one way to find out...
Shaddy-Z. said:
So with all the problems the G2x is currently having especially with LG, I have come to the conclusion to ditch this phone. LG has terrible support and everybody here knows this. We aren't getting ICS and it's the last straw for me. Yes we will get "cm9" but without an official version we will not be able to fully take advantage of the tegra2 processor in our phones. Some of you don't understand this...
Anyways I have two options:
Sensation:
Great development
Already confirmed ICS
or the Slide:
Not as great development
But has better hardware
*almost sure this is getting ICS as HTC has claimed they are updating their phones.
This might be a war between a hardware keyboard or not but I want it to be further than that. Which has better quality control, and which will be the better phone in the long run?
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Neither, even if we didn't get ics on g2x it still blows most phones out the game. Ya lg and mostly nvidia suck for not supporting the phone as much as they should, but people will always find reasons to ***** and whine about phones.
Even I complain about not having enough internal storage for these 500-600 dollar devices. I friggin hate apps2sd and apps2ext, they always lead to missing apps or corruption. I dont want a partitoned phone so it can have an internal sdcard, thats what those 16-32gb external cards are for. I want an android phone that has 16gb of non partitioned internal storage just for apps and games!
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ew neither wtf
get the nexus prime or galaxy or w.e its called if you wanna suck the support ****
or get sgs2 hd, or the s note oh my gwuuaaaad oohohghafgadfldmfn
or wait for the bbx phones
also 4.0 is more or less confirmed for this phone, and even if it wasn't historically speaking all the new upgrades were all applied on all the devices before like even the first official upgrade (which all suck ass)
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ew neither wtf
get the nexus prime or galaxy or w.e its called if you wanna suck the support ****
or get sgs2 hd, or the s note oh my gwuuaaaad oohohghafgadfldmfn
or wait for the bbx phones
also 4.0 is more or less confirmed for this phone, and even if it wasn't historically speaking all the new upgrades were all applied on all the devices before like even the first official upgrade (which all suck ass)
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So.....How does that make you feel?
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Is the Sensation better than the GS2?
That's funny
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Did we at T-Mobile get gipped or what?
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
BUT THEN THERE IS THIS SPECULATION:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...to-offer-htc-one-x-as-g4x-with-stock-android/
Then ruined by this:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att
But then there is the One XL???
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
Also check this S*#* out:
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
HTC One X (dual core) hands on video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSozJWow1wk
Would you still pick up the One S with the dual core, and smaller lower res screen?
What provider will receive the One XL?
my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
wyldkard said:
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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Definitely, just like this phone, it came as crap but the dev's on XDA fixed it all up.
I think I will still pick one up. I might actually stalk the forums before I do though.
Although, if I did it that way when I went to get this I might've waited for the Sensation. :O
I'm pretty happy with the G2x, but I came from an HTC and I feel like I'll end up there again.
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my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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3:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_b-ASrPoic&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What really impressed me with the One series phones was the video/picture capabilities. And now that HTC is helping out the dev community with offering a way to unlock the bootloaders and releasing their source code so devs can work their magic with less headache. So looks like HTC will be my next choice when my upgrade is available. I mean why wouldn't the dev be strong for their devices?! It was a great decision for HTC to support dev, this will only increase sells of their phones! They understand we nerds! Lol
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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Didn't the G2x also have locked bootloader?
Those specs are beastly. I wouldn't mind stock version for a bit till the debate figure out something.
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No. LG has an unlocked bootloader policy.
wyldkard said:
Didn't the G2x also have locked bootloader?
Those specs are beastly. I wouldn't mind stock version for a bit till the debate figure out something.
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No, bootloader was open on the G2x. That's why it was so easy to flash CWM, NVFlash took like 2 minutes.
But on the O4x it's going to be locked and probably for the foreseeable future. Maybe devs can crack it, or maybe they can't.
The specs are amazing no doubt. But how long will it last? I would imagine the upcoming SGSIII will out spec it. The G2x was king in specs for only such a short time, I can see the same thing happening for the upcoming O4x.
I love LG's build quality, I've enjoyed it on the G2x a lot actually. But they hate giving source, and now that they're locking the bootloader it's just going to be too much of a head ache for us phone junkies who like to mod it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore
churd83 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore
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Awww, god damnet man. I was looking forward to going back to HTC...
Sigh, Nexus or SGSIII it is then...
mackster248 said:
Awww, god damnet man. I was looking forward to going back to HTC...
Sigh, Nexus or SGSIII it is then...
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WTF HTC so much for your making good on all future phones being unlocked deal smh
Ya for get these phones the next exnyos/mali/omap5 chips will kick mud on them anyways.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
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I'm still trying to find where this came from, always like to verify from multiple sources...
Having a dual core isn't a bad thing when it will be the fastest processor available on the market.
Yes a dual core is faster than a quad core, architecture makes a huge difference. Stop comparing number of cores and frequency and actually look up information. The Snapdragon S4 is faster than the Tegra 3 Quad Core.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3/1
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my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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According to the rumors the XL is the one that ATT will be getting because it will only have the dual core prossessor. From all the tests and articles the only upside that one will have over the TMo One S is the bigger screen size..
The HTC One S will still be called the One S with Tmo that's for sure but does have some similar but better specs than the Amaze.. first of all the thickness is way thinner and even though the processor is still a 1.5 dual core its suppose to be way more efficient.. the camera is suppose to be improved from the Amazes camera also even though that camera was awesome..overall I'm sure its more improved than what words can say but I don't think people would go too wrong with getting the Amaze since it should be going for a bargain once the One S comes out..
The Galaxy S II compared to the Galaxy S Blaze though will be a bit different..first of all it was strange that they created the Blaze as part of the Galaxy S line and not the II series but there is a major difference in screen size from 3.97 of the Blaze and the SGSII is a ton bigger at 4.5 inches.. both are suppose to have the 1.5 dual core possessor but the Blaze will be more of a lower end phone.. Ive seen too many issues with all of the Galaxy S phones so personally i wouldn't ever buy a Samsung over a HTC by any means.. Samsung makes great TVs but kind of crappy cell phones.. and that's coming from someone that has been working in the industry for the better part of 12 years now.. Ive seen quite a bit..
HTC will let you unlock it through their tool I'm sure, they just don't want us having S-OFF.
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Qualcomm and nvidia have been always on the closed source side. And in closed source sense it means you have to buy a MOQ from them and sign NDA blah blah to get your hands on the datasheet. That's what AdamOutler was talking about (that dude wants to know which pin on the SoC does what ), not about HTC won't unlock the phone or release source code for the part that is open source (kernel). GPU driver is another issue as for nvidia and qualcomm it's propriety but qualcomm released their binary usermode driver for ICS. So all is fine, really.
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Qualcomm and nvidia have been always on the closed source side.
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Yea, I'm not sure why he seemed to single out HTC, as many phones and tablets have been, are, and will be built around Qualcomm and Nvidia chips. Taking his comment literally, one would think HTC developed it's own technology which it planned to keep secret. Taking into account the fact that other manufacturers will surly use the same, or similar, processors from these companies, why is he pointing the finger only at HTC?
And not to sound like an ass, but in his car analogy, you bore a cylinder, not a piston...
I'm looking to join Verizon very soon, but I need to take the cheap way out. Verizon currently has two free phones, the Droid 3, and the HTC thunderbolt.
My question to you, fellow xda-ers: pros and cons on both of them. Both phone will be rooted, go.
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The D3's development is finally picking up with bypassing the bootloader. The keyboard is superb, it's fast and smooth, also the camera takes crisp pictures.
Ive never used a Thunderbolt so I can't comment on that device.
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With the TBolt you get more current development and 4g, though it is definitely not the most loved phone out there for tweakers. With the D3 you get a great keyboard, strong hardware, but development that is just now picking up. If I were choosing between those two though I'd get the D3. That's actually what I'm considering as something to get me by until a 4G device that I like comes out.
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With the TBolt you get more current development and 4g, though it is definitely not the most loved phone out there for tweakers. With the D3 you get a great keyboard, strong hardware, but development that is just now picking up. If I were choosing between those two though I'd get the D3. That's actually what I'm considering as something to get me by until a 4G device that I like comes out.
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That's somewhat what I'm thinking as well, although I love sense and HTC products, most every Droid I've used is just flawless. My only concern is, is the tradeoff from craftsmanship and a growing development community worth losing out on 4g lte?
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How long are you planning on having the phone for? Development isn't really too amazing on either phone right now so you might want to take the baseline features like 4G into account pretty heavily. Though VZ has been screwing TBolt owners over pretty hard in terms of actually getting ICS out, it should come eventually which will mean much easier development of ICS Roms. The D3 faces the same issues as I've seen with the D2 in that devs have to create their own drivers for the Camera, Wifi, and other basic features. For me I can deal with the D3 if it comes to that because it will only be a temp phone for me so if it gets developed great, and if not I'll survive. If you're going to keep yours for two years the TBolt might be the way to go.
I'll just tell you this though: both phones were pretty much DOA and are both cautionary tales when it comes to looking at Motorola or HTC for purchases. No one is perfect but both phones were touted as flagship models more or less and then left in the dust. Aside from me looking at a D3 as a stopgap I have zero plans to ever buy another Moto device and I'm quite leery about HTC. With the exception of the Rezound they haven't offered much of worth on the VZ end.
It would probably be around 6 months that I have the phone. I get very tiresome of phone after about four months, with the exception of a few of my previous devices (evo 4g, and mytouch 4g)
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Do you honestly only have free as a price point option? There are some seriously badass phones out that aren't too expensive. The Incredible LTE just came out, it's running ICS and Sense 4.0 natively and also has the S4 chip, same as the Galaxy S3 and HTC One series (US Versions). Costco has it for $60 right now.
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If you're looking to join Verizon, aka new customer, there's much much better phones for you on Amazon.
The Nexus, Rezound, Droid 4, all at one point and could be still were under $100 with a new contract,
My financial situation currently wont allow me to drop any money on a cell phone. I just became a father and moneys tight, only reason I'm joining Verizon is for coverage (compared to metro pcs lol) and I get a 19% discount from my workplace.
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My financial situation currently wont allow me to drop any money on a cell phone. I just became a father and moneys tight, only reason I'm joining Verizon is for coverage (compared to metro pcs lol) and I get a 19% discount from my workplace.
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Then honestly, I'd wait until you can spend at least $100 and stick with Metro for now.
The two phones in your price range are already horribly outdated development and specs wise and if you're going to be locked in, I'd want a better phone than those two for a long term period of time.
Unless your MetroPCS experience is that bad, my advice is just wait until you can put together some funds.
My thinking is I get a free one, and eventually ill upgrade. And yes, my metro experience sucks lol. I get absolutely no reception at either of my workplaces, and home.
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I went with the DROID <3 and i love it
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Get the GNexus because it's the only phone that will most likely keep receiving os updates until android 8.3. Srsly, you don't have to worry about future updates with that phone.
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Get the GNexus because it's the only phone that will most likely keep receiving os updates until android 8.3. Srsly, you don't have to worry about future updates with that phone.
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By chance, have you followed the thread? Like at all?
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Dubs devious said:
I went with the DROID <3 and i love it
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Glad to hear that! Hashcode is really taking the development at full speed. The test leak is really promising.
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Dubs devious said:
I went with the DROID <3 and i love it
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Glad you like it. On stock 2.3.4 the best thing you can do is root using Motofail and then freeze bloatware as there is a bunch. After than the phone will run much smoother. No official ICS for this phone, but with the recent Kexec progress having a stable ICS/JB ROM is looking more like a reality.
Guess I won't be joining the D3 party as apparently I still have full coverage replacement on my D2. Just hoping it doesn't come with 2.3.4 already on-board. Glad things worked out for you though Dubs.