[Q] I Need Your Help On A Decision. What Should I Do And Why? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I Put My Nexus S Up On CL. Right Away I Got Offer After Offer. My Best Offer Is A Brand New In Box Vibrant 4G/ T-Mobile Sam sung Galaxy S 4G. I'm Kind Of Stuck. I Went On line To Search For Battles And Comparisons But Barely Found Any. Just Separate Reviews. Should I Stick With The Nexus S, Or Should I Give It Up For The New Vibrant? In Your Eyes Honestly Who Do You Think Is The Winner Overall And Why? Thanks For Your Help.

Frankly after reading engadgets review of the sgs4g it doesn't seem worth it. Hell they even said they wouldn't give up a ns for it.
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Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.

zephiK said:
Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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charlieb620 said:
I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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Then why are you even asking? I'm not trying to be mean but do what feels right. I saw your thread in the marketplace and you seemed determined to get rid of your Nexus S. I agree with the posters above I would never give up a "Nexus Phone" for a phone that's got not only a crappy touchwiz skin on it, but is loaded with crapware. But whatever....
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sell it and be happy (or sad)

zephiK said:
Sure. Let's trade a phone that has a unlocked bootloader and Nexus brand for a device that doesn't have established Android development yet. Which is practically a Vibrant + FFC (Can be applied to a Vibrant) + 4G Chip. Nothing special at all.
The answer is pretty simple, no. I don't even know why you would even consider selling the Nexus S.
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exactly my thoughts...
i was eyeing the SGS 4G (vibrant+FFC+4G)... and in the end after reading our local SGS 4G forum, i decided no way....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1065
it wont attract enough development, with the SGS2 (which also has 4G) looming close to shore
i'm holding out for SGS2, and i'll still keep the Nexus S

charlieb620 said:
I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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That's what I did with my G1. I had it since the first day the G1 came out and held onto it onto the Vibrant. Even though there are dual-core processor phones out its not really appealing to me.
Why? Quad cores are reportedly coming out later this year. There are just way too many factors in a phone that I take into account if it's worth getting. The Vibrant? huge mistake in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, it's a great phone but it didn't really fit into my persona.
I'm a huge fan of CyanogenMod. Without CM, I personally don't find it to be a phone that I would be interested in. Sure, custom ROMs are built and all that but they're all based off the OTA. I'm more interested in ROMs that are compiled from AOSP source.
All the Vibrant ROMs were pretty much based off the OTA, so in reality.. it's really the same ROM but themed to look differently with a few things changed here and there. People would say its faster than X ROM but really? its just the placebo effect, of course when you flash a new ROM it'll feel faster. But in order to determine if its faster, you gotta use it for a few days and see how the ROM runs on the phone long-term.
I'm pretty satisfied with the Nexus S, ROM development is starting to kick in. I've also heard reports of Nexus S lacking development, but honestly. Quality > Quantity.
We can have over 10 ROMs but if they're all based off OTA with a few eye-candy changes, its not really much. But with a CM7 base, its huge.

charlieb620 said:
I switch phones probably twice a month or every other. Should I just hold on to it forever? lol
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If you just want a change and you're going to sell the sgs 4g in another month for something else because that's how you roll do it. Why even ask? You will get no love for trading the ns on this forum.
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[hfm] said:
If you just want a change and you're going to sell the sgs 4g in another month for something else because that's how you roll do it. Why even ask? You will get no love for trading the ns on this forum.
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+1.. same with other forums, that's like going to the Atrix 4G forum and asking if its worth it.. a lot of people will say it is just because its their phone. Biased posts.
In the end, its really your decision. But I think majority of the users (at least on here) can agree that NS -> SGS4G isnt a good idea

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Moving On to HTC Inspire

Hey guys. I'm actually relatively new on the forums, though I've had my Captivate since December last year. I have been using ROMs from these forums since the third day I had my phone, I just never registered.
Anyway, I just feel I should make a post thanking everyone. Mostly MikeyMike01 and ChanceM, because the third ROM I ever flashed was Serendipity. And I've been using Serendipity since then. I have indeed flashed things in between, but the longest I've ever had a non-Serendipity ROM on my phone has been less than an hour. So it's safe to say that Serendipity is a physical part of my phone now... In fact, since I'm getting the HTC Inspire, my brother is getting my Captivate (his first Android phone), and the ROM that I pre-loaded for him is Serendipity 5.12. That's how much I trust/love this ROM.
Anyway, does anyone have any opinions on the HTC Inspire? I remember seeing one other person in these forums who switched to the same phone, saying that it seemed like a more sturdy phone.
I will thoroughly miss these Captivate forums though. Thanks are as follows:
MikeyMike01
ChanceM
existz (I use SuckerPunch-Voodoo)
Samsung (LOL I use the KP1 modem, dunno who to thank for this one)
Anyone else who has some sort of mod on my phone.
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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but...it's made by samsung!
alex4lex said:
but...it's made by samsung!
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
ryude said:
We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
daleaf said:
That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
ryude said:
I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I wouldn't push it that far....
After weighing all the pros and cons of the Galaxy S series and the upcoming 2 (talking about the internation/original here), the Galaxy S 2 will most likely be my next device. Decent build, decent software, hardware is top notch, and that screen is something I can't drop now that I've stared at it for so long. Knowing that the international Galaxy S 2 works with AT&T's HSPA+ bands without modifications is also a deciding factor.
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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jc2470 said:
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
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So I've heard.
MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I'd never pay that much for a phone. I'm buying it because my father's iPhone 4 is now eligible for upgrade, but he doesn't want a new phone so we're using his upgrade for mine.
ryude said:
We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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Agreed for the most part. AT&T held back the Froyo ROM without a doubt for stupid reasons, but we aren't sure if the i9000 is actually getting Gingerbread. Yeah, it was leaked, but so was Froyo way back when. I understand that Froyo wasn't released for our phone mostly because of AT&T, but you can't be so sure; it's still just a "leak".
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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Not true at all. Serendipity is the closest I've found to perfect, but it's still a ROM. From experience and from hearing other people speak about the Inspire, you don't really even need to put a ROM on the HTC Inspire 4G for it to be perfect. I'm definitely going to flash something (maybe something that'll remove Sense UI, I'm not sure if I'll like it), but most of the features in the ROMs are already found on the phone as stock.
rockingx10 said:
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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I would not get the DHD. I have a friend who has it, and it's just overhyped. It's not as good as everyone makes it seem.
The Nexus S is pretty much like this phone in which you'll have the same amount of development. The hardware may be different in technical respects, but the same in user experience.
The SGS 2 isn't released yet, but when it is, it's going to be a great phone. If it was already released, I'd consider buying it, but I'm not going to wait for it to come out.
The Atrix is somewhat overkill, but if you're entering college or have a need for a netbook/small laptop with basic features (e-mail, Facebook, etc.), then the Atrix is for you. It's just expensive, even with a contract.
Also, please post questions in the Q&A forum; that's why it's there.
Try Cognition 4.1 on your captivate. You won't be disappointed.
The Inspire kicks ass.
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Between CM7 and MIUI on the Inspire it blows anything and everything out of the water in the Captivate/i9000 forums. After seeing how Samsung utterly destroys their phones with Touchwiz, I'll never buy a Samsung phone again.
Go with the Inspire and you will not be disappointed.
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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phonex1 said:
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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They are basically the same phone. So that suggestion doesn't make much sense...
Inspire is a downgrade in hardware but upgrade in software. Add to that the rooting is quite a pain compared to the captivate...
phonex1 said:
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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Ohhhhh I thought you were talking about a phone that doesn't exist (Droid HD anyone?).
Anyway, yes, the phones are almost completely similar. It's just that the DHD is European, I believe.
eramming said:
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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How so? It has a lower pixel density and a Super LCD, which are both a downgrade, but I don't watch videos on my phone. Otherwise, how is it a downgrade? It has 700 somewhat MB of RAM, gets amazing Quad and Linpack scores compared to the Captivate (I don't base opinions on benchmarks, though), and Sense UI, though I might not use Sense...
the insipire isnt much of an upgrade. did u already get it? i personally would still take my captivate over it
I honestly can't see any of the current phones destroy the captivate in functionality and flexibility except for the nexus S. Pure google + decent specs.
The inspire blows cap away in speed, everyone in inspire forums will tell u that and almost all of them are previous captivate owners and switched to it, even blows the atrix away, call it a downgrade or whatever put whatever spin u like on it and its still the top phone to beat. and it works out of the box the radio even works great, i get no random shut downs my battery consumption is better then cappy, I dont get lag at all, it will load any program faster and run it better then the cappy did, watch a video on youtube about it, http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-htc-inspire-4g-vs-samsung-captivate/ and yes no doubt there will be more better phones out this year same as 6 months from then there will be even more, with my 6 month early upgrade it cost me 300 to get it which I certainly can live with, in 6 months i will get another of the better phones out of the time.
I gave my Cap to my aunt. I have Serendipity 5.12 on it and MIUI on my Inspire. I have around 75 apps on the Inspire and it booted quicker, unlocked quicker, and the notification bar pulled down with no lag at all.
I was running CM7 on it and it was even faster than that.
The screen difference isn't that big of a deal, either, and I've stared at the SAMOLED screen since last August.

[Q] Captivate, should I get one?

Greetings,
I've never had an Android phone. I'm still using a Behold and a Storm II for work.
I bought a Nook Color, and I've been running Honeycomb for a few weeks.
I'm ready to bail on T-Mobile and go to ATT while I can still get a good deal on a phone for being a new customer, and the refurb Captivate is free.
I'll try the OEM 2.2 release, then probably root.
If you knew then what you know now, would you still get a Captivate?
I would, imho still the most customizable phone out there. I was mad because 4 days after my 30 day the phone was free for black friday.
I would buy it . If u don't wana wait if u wait till first week of April Samsung galaxy s2 is coming with all the frequency bands on it. So its 3g compatible basically with all carriers.
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Get an Inspire, so much better.
MNMichael said:
Greetings,
I've never had an Android phone. I'm still using a Behold and a Storm II for work.
I bought a Nook Color, and I've been running Honeycomb for a few weeks.
I'm ready to bail on T-Mobile and go to ATT while I can still get a good deal on a phone for being a new customer, and the refurb Captivate is free.
I'll try the OEM 2.2 release, then probably root.
If you knew then what you know now, would you still get a Captivate?
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The deal with the refurb phone is that you run a chance at getting one that has a shutdown problem. There are still some refurbs floating around in their stock that hasn't been repaired by Samsung (despite what AT&T claims) that resolves a random shutdown problem. I know this because I got a refurb that had this problem and I had to send it to Samsung to have it repaired (I got my Cappy last December).
Other than the problem I had with it initially the phone rocks and I am glad I got it at the price of a two year contract renewal and no more.
DONT GET A REFURB. you want the full warranty just in case.
The main problems with Captivates is the crappy (useless on stock) GPS, warranty is good for getting a replacement if your phone has issues. The other problem is the random shutdown problem. it happened to an earlier batch and doubtful you would get one with that issue.
I LOVE mine, best screen i have seen and a great phone with a custom ROM which is not too difficult to install.
I beg to differ. We got better display (samoled), more roms, more kernels, and more developers. What about unlocking? We got that. HTC don't. Ton of themes. HTC is heavy and the battery case is hard to open. We got 16gb on board and HTC got 8gb. Maybe I just like my captivate.
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Get an Inspire, so much better.
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I beg to differ. We got better display (samoled), more roms, more kernels, and more developers. What about unlocking? We got that. HTC don't. Ton of themes. HTC is heavy and the battery case is hard to open. We got 16gb on board and HTC got 8gb. Maybe I just like my captivate.
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I used to have a Cappy, so I know what I'm talking about. Glad I ditched it.
Display - yeah, SAMOLED is better, although it's pretty good on the Inspire as well.
Roms - I've only tried CM7 on the Inspire, but it's been far nicer than any of the custom roms I've tried on the Captivate. The Cappy ones are great, but CM7 just has so many more features. I know you guys are getting CM7, eventually, but looks like it'll take a while.
Unlocking - yes it is possible to unlock the Inspire, in fact the initial rooting program does it for you.
Weight - it's a little heavier than my old Cappy but it doesn't bother me too much.
Battery door - it was only hard to open the first few times, now it's easy.
Memory - yes Cappy has more to begin with, but it is possible to change out the SD card in the Inspire to a bigger one. Cappy has 16gb internal, Inspire has an 8gb SD card bundled.
Oh yeah the Inspire's GPS actually works pretty well, and HTC actually seems to care about putting updates out for their phones. That was my biggest gripe with the Captivate, is just that Samsung didn't seem to give a **** about their customers after sale. Of course custom roms and such from here were very helpful.
No. Wait for the Galaxy S2
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If you weren't so close to other phones (and better phones) being launched, I would say get a Captivate. At this point though, wait for the new phones. Plus you never know with AT &T now buying T-Mobile, the deals should be a plenty.
sofia-captivate said:
I would buy it . If u don't wana wait if u wait till first week of April Samsung galaxy s2 is coming with all the frequency bands on it. So its 3g compatible basically with all carriers.
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First week of April? You sure?
Captivate is an awesome phone minus the GPS issue which a lot of the roms do seem to "almost" fix. Awesome battery life, great screen and TONS of roms.
If you can't wait, get it... But if I were you, I'd wait for the S2.
I say yes!!!
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Yep
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First week of April? You sure?
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I have HTC desire and captivate. And love my captivate. About more roms, kernels, and developers HTC do have more. And they do get updates faster than any company. Either way I love my cappuccino
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I beg to differ. We got better display (samoled), more roms, more kernels, and more developers. What about unlocking? We got that. HTC don't. Ton of themes. HTC is heavy and the battery case is hard to open. We got 16gb on board and HTC got 8gb. Maybe I just like my captivate.
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captivates a great phone inspire is a great phone,and the gs2 will be a great phone.
take your pick.
My Inspire destroys my Captivate. Even unlocking the phone is faster. The Inspire has Sense ROM's, MIUI and Cyanogenmod support, a true AOSP build in the works, and RoyalLiquid is being ported from the MyTouch 4G. The Captivate has just now gotten Cyanogenmod support. Pretty much everything else in the Captivate Dev section is the same ROM with a different theme (no offence to the Capybara devs).
The Captivate has one thing over the Inspire: a SAMOLED screen.
All of this being said, it's all fact beside the first sentence. YMMV. They're both awesome phones but better phones are around the corner.
I gat a refurb 5 days later sent it back when I knew they will send
Me a new cuz I talk to the insuranse first and now I gat a 300 dls phone for free
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I gat a refurb 5 days later sent it back when I knew they will send
Me a new cuz I talk to the insuranse first and now I gat a 300 dls phone for free
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What
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All in all, the Captivate is a great contender when it comes to these kinda phones. I love this thing. lol

G2x Or Nexus S?

Hey Everybody,
Well I've had my Nexus S since March 23 and I've really enjoyed trying out various roms and tinkering around with the Android OS. (I came from an iPhone 4 on at&t.) Now I feel like I'm at a crossroad trying to decide what phone to stick with for the next year or so. I have till the 23 to return the nexus to best buy. I bought unlocked and if I do decide to switch I'll do the same with the G2x. How many of you are coming from the nexus s on this forum and what made you want to switch the most? I'm primarily concerned with the battery life on the G2x and updates either from LG or modders. The things I don't like about the nexus s are 3G data speeds (2.5-3 down and 1-1.5 up in my area, Birmingham, AL) and 1 day to day in a half battery life. What would you guys or girls do in a similar situation? Can anyone comment on the "4G" data speeds in this area of the country or in general on T-Mobile? I've read various reports of speeds from 5-9 Mbps down and your average up. I also hope the 4G won't kill battery and we'll have a killswitch when not in use. I'm sure most have seen the mobileburn video, she seemed to put down the nexus s screen in favor of the G2x. I find that hard to believe seeing how awesome the samoled screen looks and how black the blacks are. Anyone who's seen the G2x in store that can confirm the findings she had? Thanks for any help anyone can offer up!
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Hey Everybody,
Well I've had my Nexus S since March 23 and I've really enjoyed trying out various roms and tinkering around with the Android OS. (I came from an iPhone 4 on at&t.) Now I feel like I'm at a crossroad trying to decide what phone to stick with for the next year or so. I have till the 23 to return the nexus to best buy. I bought unlocked and if I do decide to switch I'll do the same with the G2x. How many of you are coming from the nexus s on this forum and what made you want to switch the most? I'm primarily concerned with the battery life on the G2x and updates either from LG or modders. The things I don't like about the nexus s are 3G data speeds (2.5-3 down and 1-1.5 up in my area, Birmingham, AL) and 1 day to day in a half battery life. What would you guys or girls do in a similar situation? Can anyone comment on the "4G" data speeds in this area of the country or in general on T-Mobile? I've read various reports of speeds from 5-9 Mbps down and your average up. I also hope the 4G won't kill battery and we'll have a killswitch when not in use. I'm sure most have seen the mobileburn video, she seemed to put down the nexus s screen in favor of the G2x. I find that hard to believe seeing how awesome the samoled screen looks and how black the blacks are. Anyone who's seen the G2x in store that can confirm the findings she had? Thanks for any help anyone can offer up!
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ive only played around with the nexus s so i cant say its better
i can point out things the G2x has over the nexus
DUAL CORE
1080p video/mirroring
4G
and a few more
i am a past VIBRANT/SGS4G owner and can confirm the G2x screen is more "vibrant" than the Super amoled BUT nothing can top the AMOLED blacks/dark colors
i held the SGS4G up to the "test" G2x the local store has with the brightness turned all the way down on both the G2x is much brigher (battery killer?)
and with them turned all the way up (both)
id say the G2x is still brighter/more colorful
i love samsung for their screens but remember just like the nexus this is a GOOGLE phone so updates will come alot quicker than a bloated phone
obviously the dual core vs single core is speaking for its self
and the 1080p video/mirroring does too
the 4G in my area (wisconsin) isnt that great but i did notice hella faster speedtest on my SGS4G than on my vibrant
honeslty if i where you id get the G2x its got a few upsides over the nexus
and for battery i hear its good (1day) for being a monster (dualcore/4g)
this phone is faster than my laptop witch is sad
mines is on its way as you can tell from my sig
but before getting it... i recommend trying it out in the store first
it is kinda heavy feeling (good way) like the nexus s
but its all user preference dont buy it just because people on a forum say its good...
**G2x gets gingerbread mid summer*** (june)
Thanks man, I appreciate the quick response! You make some good points. I'll most likely be going to T-Mobile on Monday or Tuesday to try it out and compare to my Nexus S. It certainly looks like an awesome phone either way so I hope you enjoy yours! The dual core goodness and 4G will most likely be the top selling points if I do dive in.
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Thanks man, I appreciate the quick response! You make some good points. I'll most likely be going to T-Mobile on Monday or Tuesday to try it out and compare to my Nexus S. It certainly looks like an awesome phone either way so I hope you enjoy yours! The dual core goodness and 4G will most likely be the top selling points if I do dive in.
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no problem man!
if your still wanting to see what it can do just google "G2x reviews" they got some staggering stats/benchmarks already up plus you can see a little more of the functionality i didnt describe!
I have both, but my Nexus S is now for sale. The G2x blows it away in every area except black levels and form factor. I thought by looking at GPU benchmarks that it would only be marginally faster...I was wrong. It puts the Nexus S to shame. Apps load dramatically faster, web browsing is much faster and smoother, the whole user experience is just better. This phone far exceeds my expectations. I prefer the display to samoled and the battery life is up there with the Nexus S.
Even though I'm an update junkie (one of those guys obsessively hitting refresh on XDA when I catch wind of an OTA), I'm willing to give up 2.3.3 for the faster hardware. It just really is that much better.
If you would like me to perform any specific comparisons let me know.
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T-Mobile® is on it's way to AT&T®, so, do what you gotta do, but AT&T® will be baking all T-Mobile® users get new phones to support their network.
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but AT&T® will be baking all T-Mobile® users get new phones to support their network.
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T-Mobile® is on it's way to AT&T®, so, do what you gotta do,
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so your the FCC now?
i RECOMMEND reading before posting **** like this... this is a opinion
and this phone is WORKING BOTH ON tmobiles AND at&t's network.....
i love people that hear something... and think its going down so there share bad intel... you sir are almost a month outdated with your information... let alone you obviously dont read phone specs before posting about it...
(maybe its just me and i am tires its 4am here, but the ignorance of some people make me wonder how this world is still spinning)
nate420 said:
i RECOMMEND reading before posting **** like this... this is a opinion
and this phone is WORKING BOTH ON tmobiles AND at&t's network.....
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Not just work - This has been the case for a long time. The phone will work on either carrier's 3G/4G networks, which is a first I believe.
Anyway, from what I've been reading, the G2x blows away even the original O2x - I saw a run of Quadrant where the planet and moon graphics test was pumping 100-120FPS!
G2X. Period. I sell high end mobile phones for a living and I've owned a Vibrant, a Nexus S now and soon to be G2X. I got to play with the G2X at work for about 5 hours and its an amazing device. Just like others said, the screen, 1080p, hdmi etc...My nexus will be promptly going on craigslist with 0 regrets.
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G2X. Period. I sell high end mobile phones for a living and I've owned a Vibrant, a Nexus S now and soon to be G2X. I got to play with the G2X at work for about 5 hours and its an amazing device. Just like others said, the screen, 1080p, hdmi etc...My nexus will be promptly going on craigslist with 0 regrets.
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+100
Just sold my Nexus S as the dev section is DEAD! Getting a G2X sent over from the USA
JD
Wow thanks for all the informative posts! I hadn't expected such a quick and diverse response. I posted the same thread on the Nexus S forum with 0 responses. I was really leaning toward the G2x but now having fellow Nexus S owners say the same really helps to make the decision easier. I hope CM7 and others port over quickly so we can get root access and load up some new roms right off the bat!
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kflanegan said:
Wow thanks for all the informative posts! I hadn't expected such a quick and diverse response. I posted the same thread on the Nexus S forum with 0 responses. I was really leaning toward the G2x but now having fellow Nexus S owners say the same really helps to make the decision easier. I hope CM7 and others port over quickly so we can get root access and load up some new roms right off the bat!
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dont quote me but i believe the o2x Root program is working for the G2x: link -------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953182&page=19
as for roms give it a week and CM7 will be on it! (also an assumption but alot of developers are getting this phone!)
kflanegan said:
Wow thanks for all the informative posts! I hadn't expected such a quick and diverse response. I posted the same thread on the Nexus S forum with 0 responses. I was really leaning toward the G2x but now having fellow Nexus S owners say the same really helps to make the decision easier. I hope CM7 and others port over quickly so we can get root access and load up some new roms right off the bat!
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The nexus S forum is not a nice place to be, over zealous moderators and crazy noob users that argue over anything... And of course all of them are anti dev because they think they have the best OS ever...
Its a great OS but i do like to interchange between Sense and MIUI as well
JD
I will be getting G2x.
I also have NS, and the black level on NS is nowhere to match (unlimited contrast), but the black level on G2x is still pretty good and the viewing angle is good as MT4 (no defect unit) and GTab.
The only concern is the calling quality. LG phones are weak on this category if you ask me. Calling quality on NS is good (especially speakerphone). It's still a phone after all.
I've had my Nexus S for about 2 weeks and I've been trying to not want to get the G2X, but I'm slowly getting swayed. I paid cash for my phone from Best Buy, so I think they'd have to send me a check in the mail with my money. Until then, I'd have no phone. So, that's what will probably hold me back from getting one.
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The waiting is it worth, and it would be max. one week.. You won't regret it
G2x all the way
i too have a NS. Really considering moving to the G2X. The pros outweigh the cons tremendously in my opinion. Quick updates and black levels are the only things the NS has over the G2X. We just got 4G here in Nashville also so im chomping at the bit to get the speeds that i'm already paying for.
here are a few unboxings/reviews to keep you guys salivating
http://youtu.be/K8_Oc3RufZQ?hd=1
http://youtu.be/gYULrpSFu6g?hd=1
http://youtu.be/GdyIwoIn_gY?hd=1
Quick updates.... are the only things the NS has over the G2X.
false G2x will be up there with updates (google phone)
nate420 said:
Quick updates.... are the only things the NS has over the G2X.
false G2x will be up there with updates (google phone)
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You are correct in that it will be "up there" with updates...sooner than phones that need to have custom UIs modified by companies like HTC, Samsung, and *cringe* Motorola. However, there is an important distinction to be made...Nexus S updates come straight from Google, whereas G2x updates come from T-Mobile which causes a notable delay. Nexus S clearly wins in this department.
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Quick updates.... are the only things the NS has over the G2X.
false G2x will be up there with updates (google phone)
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No it wont. Vanilla doesn't = Google phone.

[Q] How long will the Infuse 4G hold up?

How long do you guys think the Infuse 4G will last in the Market of ever improving phones? Will it last the next few years, say until an upgrade is eligible? Or will it simply fall apart compared to upcoming phones in the next few years? Personally, I love my Infuse, and I think it'll last at least a year to three in terms of specs and software. Please, discuss.
Ok, this is one thing you need to learn when it comes to new phones / laptops/ technology in general. In a year, IT WILL BE OUTDATED. I got the Samsung Captivate and could not imagine a better phone ---besides it's constant GPS issues and until the charging port broke on it...but that was partly my fault. I got this phone and it is great as well--even better than the Captivate. At the time, I did not think that was possible.
The thing you want to do is buy a quality product for the time. The Infuse is one of those things. If you take good care of it, it will last you. I fell off of my bike a few weeks back going downhill. I was pretty banged up. My Infuse, even though it was in a case, got pretty banged up--- cosmetically around those silver edges. It is fully functioning otherwise. It is a solid product. It will last you a long time if you don't abuse it.
For example -- -I still have the Samsung Blackjack 2 as my backup phone and I use it when my "newer and better" phones give me problems. I've had it for forever. It is still a good phone despite being years old. You have a decent phone now--- we all do, as far as the Infuse is concerned. I haven't heard too many complaints, but only time can tell if that will change. Treat it well and it will remain good to you.
The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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I'm just asking if you guys think it'll last the above-average Android user the next few years. I know it's already outdated. It was probably outdated before it even came out.
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depends on the user. there isnt much the phone can't do but it depends on samsung releasing updates and on the community to put out quality mods. to be honest with a good rom a droid could still be a viable phone. my friend has a nexus1 and loves it. i actually kinda envy it, i love the screen and media capabilities on samsung phones but as a phone the nexus is perfect and there is no reason it should need to be anything more.
i have a phone lust though. i will likely get the sgsiii or whatever comes after the sgsii long before my contract is up.
The Infuse right now is still the absolute best phone on AT&T.
And will stay that way till the SGS 2 comes out....
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requiem3 said:
The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
I was looking at the specs of Galaxy II and the one thing I won't switch my infuse for is battery. It has 1600mA while Infuse has 1750mA. So when it comes to dual CPU, it should drain battery down pretty bad. I mean why will you ever even use that power on the phone unless you compute rocket science data using it. 4G also has a big mouth for drinking the juice out of your phone.
I'm not trying to say it is horible, it just would be a major concern if I'm a heavy data user.
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phones are always out of date typically within 6 months of being released there will be a higher end phone, with few exceptions. (i use to sell phones personally)
anyways, i had a samsung captivate which was the best phone when it came out, currently out of date, but it broke i payed money throuh insurance and luckily they were out so i got an infuse. very happy so far, and i can save my upgrade, im going to wait till i get a high spec (probably htc) lte phone
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
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Sgs2 has a smaller screen...therfore it will seem to have better resolution next to the infuse...
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6 weeks, at best.
Coming from the Captivate it's already boring.
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The phone is already outdated when you bought it, but that is the rule with all tech lol. Will it last 5 years. If you take care of it sure but will it still be getting upgrades. Most likely not sense we are seeing higher and higher system requirements to run the newer updates.
It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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I am not saying it couldnt handle it, just saying that after the first OS update I would not look for any others. IF it gets 1 more after that then it will be lucky. As for the Nexus S, I had great hopes for it but then I found the Nexus S was by samsung and thought ok ill wait for the next and not the new prime may be a samsung as well so looks like ill wait till the next nexus is an HTC. But if it is a samsung or HTC as long as the phone is bought through ATT dont expect to get the same number of updates as the Euro versions of the same phone. They always will get more updates then its US counter parts. As always been the case and always will be.
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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corythug said:
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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Yup thats why my next device will be a Nexus, as long as it is not made by samsung

Trading my HOXL for Nexus

To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Android phones are hard to predict.
6 Months is half a product cycle of an iPhone.
The HTC One X(L) is a fantastic device. We don't even have Kernel Source yet and look at the development we've seen so far. Sit tight.
I think ISIS will be a huge fail and Google Wallet will be allowed eventually.
kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
tl;dr
I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
People have mentioned all kinds of crazy trades, so anything is possible, I guess. But as mentioned in above responses, I wouldn't bet on a straight out one-for-one trade. Trading what is probably going to be a flagship phone, for a phone that is 5-6 months old is probably not going to be considered a fair trade by most people. You may have to sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra, or extra cash to make it a fair trade. Or sell the One X for whatever you can get for it, then buy the Nexus of your choice.
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Funny, I left my GN to get the HOX because of the terrible radio. Although the software was great, I got really slow data speeds on the GN no matter what radio I flashed. My HOX gets fantastic speeds now.
Whether the radio is good or not is never one of the specs reviewers talk about but without a good radio, the phone is not much use. Do a few searches on Samsung radios and you will see that they have a poor reputation.
And as far as development is concerned, ask SG2 owners how long it took to get CM to work because of the weird blue tooth drivers Samsung used....
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I pre-ordered a Nexus 7 tablet to satisfy my craving for a pure android device.
Ordered my Nexus 7 as well. Probably going to sell my Prime, but we'll see.
As soon as source drops for this phone, it's going to be huge.
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
karan1203 said:
I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
bongd said:
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. (
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Try using HD contact photos (app). Seems to work pretty well as long as you don't use the HD resolution feature in the advanced settings.
BTW that's a Google problem, not HTC problem.
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You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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expertzero1 said:
You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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Lol one x will jelly bean.
Im using jelly bean on my old deactivated nexus, and Im dying to have Google now on the one x. It blows all the voice assistants we currently have out of the water.
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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I can only dream of this happening. Stock nexus with inferior hardware is smoother than our one x. Sense uses way too much RAM.
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
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Samsung is a bigger company. They have leverage against carriers. HTC is desperate.
Another reason is, samsung is the biggest electronics manufacturing company in the world. This is why the nexus is able to sell at $350. There is no other company that can provide such cost efficiency. Only samsung has the infrastructure.
mikelebz said:
Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
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I don't think we're gonna see anymore developers then what we currently have. They're gonna flock to the sgs3 and the nexus phones. Also, with another better One X supposedly rumored, why would they get this phone? We haven't reached the most roms well get but we've most likely seen which developers will work on them. This phone was doomed one the sgs3 and jelly bean came out. Source or no source.
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bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I'm thinking it's more of that crappy company AT&T. Isn't the source out already for the evo 4g lte?
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expertzero1 said:
At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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You're kidding right?
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