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[Q] CM7 or Android Revolution?

Hey guys!
Wanted to know what you guys prefer/are using - Android Revolution or CM7 on your Inspire. Currently I'm using the stock rooted ROM and I'm loving it. I was using Android Revolution, but the tinny sound was unbearable for me after a while. Now that there's a fix for both AR and CM7, what do you recommend I flash? I don't mind Sense at all, but GB sounds pretty nice as well.
Opinions? Thanks!

I started with revolution but moved on to cm and will probably stay till some 2.3 roms come out, for no real reason I just "have" to have the latest os, always have... windows ME almost ruined my life

I think u have to ask ur self if u really enjoy sense or not... I personally love it after coming from the xperia x10's timescale ui, but if u don't then cm7 all the way for speed cuz it zips... plus u could use the colorize widget to get a sense like feel on cm7

How is battery life on CM7?

I like cm7 but I like the fact more that HTC sense downloads high quality FB images for my contacts. I dont think there is a way to do that on CM7, just the horrible quality images. That is what made me go back to sense... That along with the cm7 keyboard is tiny compared to the htc one.. Im sure I could find an apk somewher for it, but Ill just stick to sense for now.

earhog said:
I like cm7 but I like the fact more that HTC sense downloads high quality FB images for my contacts. I dont think there is a way to do that on CM7, just the horrible quality images. That is what made me go back to sense... That along with the cm7 keyboard is tiny compared to the htc one.. Im sure I could find an apk somewher for it, but Ill just stick to sense for now.
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Download the GB Keyboard from the market. The free one is bigger than the CM one and if you pay $.99 you get even more customization. Not saying this to try to get you to switch though. I even used it on Sense. It seems to be the best kb out there right now.

I noticed that CM7 was just released. I'm on Revolution and love it. CM7 makes me a bit nervous though. Install directions say to pick a radio to install, but then say that if you pick the wrong one you will brick your phone. That scares me. I didn't have to do that with Revolution. Are there benefits to CM7 that out-weigh that risk though? I can't find out a whole lot in the way of a comparison between CM7 and Revolution. I'd love to hear from people that have tried both to see what their impressions were.
Daniel

djeaton said:
I noticed that CM7 was just released. I'm on Revolution and love it. CM7 makes me a bit nervous though. Install directions say to pick a radio to install, but then say that if you pick the wrong one you will brick your phone. That scares me. I didn't have to do that with Revolution. Are there benefits to CM7 that out-weigh that risk though? I can't find out a whole lot in the way of a comparison between CM7 and Revolution. I'd love to hear from people that have tried both to see what their impressions were.
Daniel
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Obviously you have a radio installed so it's not an issue. If you are rocking the stock radio just do a full wipe and flash CM7 and you will be good to go. I did that and then changed my radio and everything has always worked well for me. The battery for me isnt too bad and I haven't run into many issues that bother me. I LOVE having CM7/Vanilla Android on this phone. CM7 also has built in capabilities to OC up to 1.5Ghz.

I liked cm7 and it might be a little faster but .......the reason i got the inspire 4g is cause of the screen size. I get alot of MMS slide shows and on cm7 the pictures are TINY unless you want to go to the trouble of saving them to get a full screen pic. With that being said I'll stick to AR for now so I get full screen MMS slide show pics like the stock htc rom did.

So, since I already have a working radio on Revolution, can I just back up the ROM with Tibu and then use Rom Manager to install CM7 to check it out?

djeaton said:
So, since I already have a working radio on Revolution, can I just back up the ROM with Tibu and then use Rom Manager to install CM7 to check it out?
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Also wondering about this. Currently have CM7 and have it set up just how I like it. If I do a tibu backup of user apps and system data, can I install another ROM, then go back to CM7, restore backup, and have everything like it is now?

Billabong81 said:
Also wondering about this. Currently have CM7 and have it set up just how I like it. If I do a tibu backup of user apps and system data, can I install another ROM, then go back to CM7, restore backup, and have everything like it is now?
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Use Nandroid too. Restore that, then apps ONLY with TiBu, not system data.

I used Rom Manager to backup my current system and then Tibu to backup all existing apps and data. Went back to Rom Manager and told it to download CM7. It installed great. Tibu put all my apps back as well. I see three BIG advantages to CM7 over Revolution so far. First, it seems MUCH faster. Second, it allows me to sync my Splash ID to my desktop. That was impossible with the stock ROM (both before and after rooting) as well as with Revolution. It also runs the Fox News app, something else that would never run on prior ROMs. Finally, I love all the new settings. There are a lot more configuration options available than on Revolution or even the rooted stock rom that I started with. All in all, I think I'll be sticking with CM7 for a while.

At first i put CM7 on my inspire...Hate it...after few hours was very slow...I removed it and using now android revolution 3.3...Very very happy...good battery life...

That's odd. I had the exact opposite experience. Of course I was using Revolution 4, but CM7 seems to be a whole lot faster for me. Only issues I've had with it so far is that I keep losing some of my App Tray folders in Go Launcher EX. But I'm also running a beta of that, so no telling where the problem lies.

djeaton said:
That's odd. I had the exact opposite experience. Of course I was using Revolution 4, but CM7 seems to be a whole lot faster for me. Only issues I've had with it so far is that I keep losing some of my App Tray folders in Go Launcher EX. But I'm also running a beta of that, so no telling where the problem lies.
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i downloaded the latest nightly CM rom. few things were very odd. first when you attach usb cable the only supported mode was charge only. to transfer file i had to manually take out microsd card. that was a big for me...second after few hours my phone started crawling...i have inspire 4g

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i downloaded the latest nightly CM rom. few things were very odd. first when you attach usb cable the only supported mode was charge only. to transfer file i had to manually take out microsd card. that was a big for me...second after few hours my phone started crawling...i have inspire 4g
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With mine, it DEFAULTS to charge only, but when you tap on that in the notifications, you are given the option to mount the SD. And I'd make sure to reset the battery stats and give it some time (a full day?) and then look at what is using up your battery and CPU. I too had some sluggishness until I found that a certain utility that I had downloaded but never set up or used was chewing up 50% of my battery. Once I deleted it, I was fine.

been using revo. my favorite.

Captivate kk4 based rom opinions.

Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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I like the roms, nice and fast, good bluetooth.
No lag except that damn gallery bug, but i get that on other versions and on stock rogers gingerbread aswell.

Cor-master said:
Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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Opinions are like buttholes...just flash it and decide for yourself...going back to what you're running now if you don't like it is not difficult.
Qawnman said:
I like the roms, nice and fast, good bluetooth.
No lag except that damn gallery bug, but i get that on other versions and on stock rogers gingerbread aswell.
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Go to the market, get quickpic, you'll forget about the stock gallery entirely.

Well really just curious what everyone's using. Honestly there doesn't seem to be as many supported stock-based roms as their was on the earlier GB betas. I always used Cognition, but the most current version hasn't had an update since like July. I'm happy with Cyanogen for the most part, though it seems a bit buggier than stock. Really I just want a stock based rom with the theme engine and screenshot feature.

Cor-master said:
Well really just curious what everyone's using. Honestly there doesn't seem to be as many supported stock-based roms as their was on the earlier GB betas. I always used Cognition, but the most current version hasn't had an update since like July. I'm happy with Cyanogen for the most part, though it seems a bit buggier than stock. Really I just want a stock based rom with the theme engine and screenshot feature.
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Neither of which exist on stock, and the first being impossible on stock.

I could of swore I've seen theme support in some of these roms. Either way guess I can always use uot kitchen.
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I didn't see what the big deal was about screenshots but in the month and a half I've had cyanogenmod I've found I use the feature all the time
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There are apps in the market that allow this. Shoot me is what i use...it also has a video feature, that will take a screen shot every so many seconds (depending on what you set it to) and then make it an mp4.
Oh and for theme support on a tw ROM, go to the market and get darky ota that should work. It injects the proper images and compiled xmls INTO the existing ROM, I've used it on mosaic, should work on all tw roms, I'd make a backup zip of the framework-res.apk and systemui.apk first though, that you can flash if it doesn't work. Or just reflash the ROM.

Cor-master said:
I could of swore I've seen theme support in some of these roms. Either way guess I can always use uot kitchen.
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Yeah, but no theme engine. You have to flash them. Only the collectives have themes, and the others may have ICS themes.

I've thought about maybe just going to stock, removing the bloatware, installing corn kernal, installing a screenshot program, and then using UOT to get my themeing the way I want and calling it a day. That could work I suppose.
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Cor-master said:
I've thought about maybe just going to stock, removing the bloatware, installing corn kernal, installing a screenshot program, and then using UOT to get my themeing the way I want and calling it a day. That could work I suppose.
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Theres already a rom like that. Check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358180
Ive been using it for about a week now and its really stable. It comes with an older corn kernel though so you might want to flash the new one.

Nice! Thanks!
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I'm using the KK4-based version of SauROM (note that there's an I9000-based version too, which I haven't tried). It's mostly pretty nice, except that after a full day or maybe day and a half of use, the browser tends to go loopy. It freezes up and becomes non-responsive, and appears to be hogging the CPU, as hitting the home button doesn't repsond either. If I just put the phone down and walk away for half an hour, it's usually fine again when I get back, but I tend to just reboot instead which also fixes it. I find this annoying, but it's just infrequent enough to be tolerable. I've been meaning to try a different ROM to see if it's universal or not.

Cor-master said:
Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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Well I was on stock rogers 2.3.3. and I found it very laggy. no matter what launcher I used: go, adw, lp, even sbp shell. after a while lag would start up that would require a reboot or the phone would just shut off. Games would start out fine then start lagging. I then flashed cm7 and noticed an immediate improvement with minor overclocking but I would still get that lag, but not as bad as stock.
I then flashed teamhacks 4.0.3 ics rc14. I can never go back to GB. It is so intuitive, very smooth. The transitions are amazing. Even with no overclocking it is miles faster than stock or CM7. I was considering buying a new phone but now I will not be.
Since you are on cm7 now why don't you flash ics . its very simple to do since you already have cm7 installed. then you can decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
Hope this helps!

shaker2k said:
Well I was on stock rogers 2.3.3. and I found it very laggy. no matter what launcher I used: go, adw, lp, even sbp shell. after a while lag would start up that would require a reboot or the phone would just shut off. Games would start out fine then start lagging. I then flashed cm7 and noticed an immediate improvement with minor overclocking but I would still get that lag, but not as bad as stock.
I then flashed teamhacks 4.0.3 ics rc14. I can never go back to GB. It is so intuitive, very smooth. The transitions are amazing. Even with no overclocking it is miles faster than stock or CM7. I was considering buying a new phone but now I will not be.
Since you are on cm7 now why don't you flash ics . its very simple to do since you already have cm7 installed. then you can decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
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I thought about it, but I'm kind of waiting for stable CM9 to be complete first. I hear it has an issue with rebooting during calls. Trust me though I'm very eager to try out ICS. I ended up going with Illuminance, so far so good. I'm currently restoring all my apps ATM. I'll report back after I"m done.
This is off topic but why is Titanium backup soo sooo slow? Why do I have to sit there and say "install" and "done" on everything? I wish I could have all the time back in my life I spent restoring stoff with titanium backup

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I thought about it, but I'm kind of waiting for stable CM9 to be complete first. I hear it has an issue with rebooting during calls. Trust me though I'm very eager to try out ICS. I ended up going with Illuminance, so far so good. I'm currently restoring all my apps ATM. I'll report back after I"m done.
This is off topic but why is Titanium backup soo sooo slow? Why do I have to sit there and say "install" and "done" on everything? I wish I could have all the time back in my life I spent restoring stoff with titanium backup
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I too was reluctant to go from CM7 to CM9, but I eventually flashed it just to check it out, with no intention of staying. Long story short, I've been using CM9 for the past two weeks and it's definitely stable enough to be a daily driver, IMHO. I believe the phone call reboot was solved (I've never had it anyway), the only issue I have had was charge death, but that was solved by switching to the Glitch kernel. If you are waiting for it to be stable, your time may have come
As far as TB is concerned, the paid version lets you batch restore your apps. Well worth the $5 or however much it was.

So far so good on ilkuminance but I miss my screen shot feature, and all the apps in the market suck. Why would I want a camera icon hogging up my screen? Anyway, I may try ICS sooner than later
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I ran all of the stock GB roms, was not super impressed with them, switched to the SauROM KK4 and Love it. Very smooth, seems less buggy then stock kk4. Have had a few issues of it being unresoponsive for a minute or so everyonce in a while, but it seems to be rare.

Try SauromKK4 or FastyKK4
Advantage of SauROM is that it is one click Heimdall, and really hard to mess up.
I then tried Fasty - also pretty good.
I got the impression that SauROM is smoother.
But that Corn 7.0.5 kernel is buggy - beware!

I tried a few of the KK4 roms, but eventually went back to CM7 and Kangs because the speed and responsiveness.
Now I have a Captivate Glide and am waiting for dev to ramp up for it. The Glide is what I really wanted when I got the original a year and a half ago, so I am happy.

[Q] Pros and Cons of various ICS ROMS now out

Hi All,
Any of you folks with extreme ORD tried many of the different ICS froms yet?
- a very silly question I'm sure! -
I have been following with building anticipation since the leak, but since the Fiscall Year was coming to a close at work I didn't dare begin experimenting for fear of getting sidetracked and losing what little sleep time I had left.
I would really like to hear the pros and cons of some of the various flavours of ICS now available in the "Skyrocket's One Stop Shop for All Things ICS 4.0!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573218 thread...
I'm on Rogers, and am especially interested in things like best radio for sound quality and LTE txfer speeds (there are only 2 so far right?), and what apps specifically are removed from the "debloat" versions... I obviously have zero need for ATT apps, but some of the Samsung bloatware might still be useful to me. Can TW be tossed out and replaced just as easily as with GB? I've been pleased with ADW EX, and would probably stick with it unless there's something more ICSish with as much functionality?
Of course I (and others I'm sure) would love to hear anything you have to offer about speed, interface, quality, bugs, workarounds, etc... I have tried to piece it together from the various ROM threads, but first hand comparisons between the ROMS don't seem to be there.
If there's another compare and contrast thread I apologize, but I did in fact search for "Pros and Cons", and "Rom Differences", and "ICS Comparison", but didn't come up with anything Skyrocket except GB stuff.
Thanks in advance for any comparisons you folks have to offer up.
Jamie

I would also like to have a short list of pros and cons for each
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1st attempt
Well there were no takers to post their experiences, so I figured I'd go ahead and start logging my own attempts...
Tried Silver's ROM collectiveics.zip first because it looked to be the easiest and least risky but no joy for me.
I backed everything up and flashed as per the instructions and got a boot loop.
Used recovery to wipe but still no success.
Restored my original stock Rogers GB ROM.
Then tried again with his themed version (collectiveics3.zip) but had exactly the same experience but this time also tried flashing ics kernal when the boot loop happened... no change.
Restored again.
I reported it in the appropriate thread and see that a few others have the same issue... Silver asked for ROM, and CWM version to try and isolate a common issue. I see others having the problem have also responded.
I was using CWM version 5.0.2.7 and from what I can see, so were others... I flashed a different CWM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472954 ) this morning and will try flashing Silver again after work. If it still doesn't work, I will move on to a different ROM and report the experience back here again. (I WILL tell you if it worked too of course)
Jamie

I have tried several of the ICS roms thus far, and the only one that I have had zero problems with has been the MHX Superlite 4.2. I really liked the look of the Nexusmod ICS rom, and the trebuchet launcher included, but it was a bit buggy and I could never get fix permissions to run, either. I have noticed that every time I flash a rom now, it takes a bit longer than the time before for the phone to settle after the initial boot.

my understanding is thus.
(there is no harm flashing nandroids back forth)
so long got nandroid no problem from there..
Best gb rom. QuickWiz never updated.
2nd best gb rom silver (for looks alone lol)
Going try mx gb rom next
WHEN ics roms are considered my understanding is this. There not up to par for a daily driver yet. Sure they work but your going to have a problem with something. Now I never tried one but off of what others say your going to have issues with at least one part of it so I say why bother? Wait a bit longer for them to stabalize. Im going try gb mx rom think going be the one I want.
Sucks though I love the theme on silver.... guess could stick to it. Im ocd about roms I want them perfect

I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.

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I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.
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I've held off so far on ICS but i think I'll get my feet wet this weekend. Strange you recommend darkside wipe. I'm certain Silver said not to darkside wipe for his ICS rom. There does seem to be a disconnect between some of the instructions and results people are having thus . I guess this is to be expected at this point.

I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I have flashed the following three ics roms on my rogers i727r and here were my results (They may vary and be different from yours this is just MY experience)
1. Nexus ICS Beta 3
Pros:
-Beautiful themeing done by M0D
-Very stable and dependable as dd
Cons:
-Battery Life was not so great for me
2. SuperLite 4.2
Pros:
-Stable and reliable
-Strong ROM support by mhx
-Great battery life
Cons:
-Not AOSP feelish like other roms (you can always flash a theme and be happy though )
3. SensatioN
Pros:
-Fast!
-Strong dev and theme support by the pair
-Quick response to questions and concerns
Cons:
-I am not much for the theme right now (waiting for wail01x to drop his next beta)
-Full of bloat off the start takes some heavy removal (my opinion)
Thats it for me so far will report later after i feed the addiction of ORD

can you flash any theme to any rom
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Try using cwm touch for flashing.
I'm on nexus ics and it looks great. No real major bugs so I'm using it as a daily driver. I can't comment on battery life yet but I will once I cycle a few times. Doesn't seem as snappy as gb roms though.
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I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I also do this religiously and have had great luck with it. However, it never fixed the nexus ICS install for me, and I tried flashing it several times on a couple of download tries with issues.
I've upgraded to MHX 4.3 today, and it seems to be great as a daily driver. It's smooth, fast, and tiny. Apex launcher is nice, too.

Update
Flashed the latest Odin version of CWM, and as I type, I've got a full backup going for archive to my PC so I can try the MHX Superlite 4.5 ('cause it's a full wipe flash)
I will report back the results in a bit but had to do something while I wait for the backup...
IF it works OK my next step will be the UCLC5 modem... Wish me luck ;-)
Jamie
Well... So far so good. Flash went well and in the process of restoring apps... Liked Silver's theme but MHX seems more stable so far... Will edit again when the apps are working...
Arrrgh
UCALC5 modem seems to have increased my reception at the cost of useability... LONG pauses between every screen change... going to flash is again and if it doesn't settle in I'll either go back to 4 or erstore GB again... have to drive a thousand km tomorrow and can't have an "iffy" phone.

mx gb super light amazing.
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Working ICS
I could not make things work with the UCALC5 modem. It just wouldn't play nice with any ROM I flashed... Superlight was working but the modem killed it... reflashed the UCALC4 modem and then flashed the collective ROM and I have a working ICS phone Had to get a TiBu update to get my apps back because the one in the ROM is broken but now my apps are restored and all is right with the world (but I need to get used to Apex I think... and set it all up... Anxiously awaiting his updated one.
Aargh... Should have installed most of the apps from the market... acore keeps FCing on me again now. I suspect it's got something to do with the data restore... Thought I was careful about what I let it restore but I must have let something slip through that it doesn't like... sure is tough to sign on to the market to try and update Apex when your keyboard keeps dissapearing before you have your gmail password typed. :-(

most roms doesnt have battery roms. and the ones that do, (ICS), have the shutdown/reboot issue.

I've tried all of the different ICS roms available to us as of today. I'm really beginning to think that even following install directions to the letter will still give varied results for different people. Probably many small factors that cause this to happen. I've personally had many issues with lag and freezing of user and system apps, even after multiple installs with multiple wipes on each ROM. The only ROM so far that has been the most problem free is the Superlite ROM in my experience. I'm two days on it now and not had even one single bit of lag and zero freezing. I can't say any of the other ICS roms have had the same solid results as this.
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Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point

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Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point
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[Q] Sick of 2.3.4. Looking for something more fun.

Hey guys, been a fan of XDA for years, infinite amounts of knowledge here it seems, and I know nothing. While I could spend years reading all the posts and searching, I figured some of the more knowledgable members may be able to answer a couple quick questions without giving me TOO big of a hard time.
I have had my G2x for about a year which is running 2.3.4, March 2011 baseband. I used to own a G1 and a Motorola Cliq and had experimented with rooting it. I am looking for something new and different, as I'm kind of sick of regular old GB. There is so much knowledge here, and on some ROMs 100's of pages of stuff to read, which unfortuantely most of which I find confusing. I know nothing about baseband versions, radios, etc. I plan on researching a lot of these things, as thats obviously the only way to learn.
My Fiance and I both have the G2x, and are both needing to be hard reset and they're running slowly and the battery seems to be draining faster and faster. I planned to do a hard reset this weekend, but figured I may experiment with rooting and custom roms. If you guys can answer some questions for me, I'd greatly appreiciate it! I know that all this information is likely out there, although I feel completely lost and overwhelmed, unsure where to begin. I had the following questions.
If I decide to root the phone, and try different roms am I always able to "unroot" the phone and bring it back to factory just as it is now? Is this general rooting guide good for 2.3.4? Can I root without loading a custom Rom? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594650
I had been noticing that with Hellfire Sandwhich, and EaglesBlood there are some known issues, like bluetooth I believe, but I'm having a hard time seeing what isn't working currently. I would like to try ICS, but want something stable where I'm not going to experience a lot of programs not working. I don't do a lot on my phone but would like all the little things to work. How would I find "current bugs" or something similar, as there are hundreds of posts I can't seem to find the information.
Is there a certain rom that most people recommend for ICS that is more stable, possible CM?
How common is it to completely brick your phone, if you're not an idiot and follow instructions?
I was told when I bought the phone that it would receive ICS OTA, but this seems debateable. Am I better off waiting to see if this happens, or what do you guys recommend?
I'm sorry this seems like a stupid post, and that I haven't done any reading, because I have, I'm just confused as hell. I REALLY appreciate everyone's help! I've always enjoying messing with phones, although there is just too much to it with Radios, baseband, kernels, all of which I know nothing about, and mean nothing to me at this point. THANKS guys!

That guide will work for you. The good news is that the G2x is close to impossible to brick (it can be done, but definitely takes some talent). NVflash can be used 98% of the time to fix your phone.
As far as ROMs go, you have to experiment. Every G2x is different, and handle different setups differently. With that being said, Kwes's rooted stock ROM fixed a lot of the problems I had with my G2x. If you're bored with stock, most CM7 based ROMs are very stable. As far as ICS goes, Genesis was always my favorite, and the most reliable for me. I recently started playing with Paranoid Android CM9, and so far it works great, and provides a really unique experience.
Just read the first few posts of every ROM and it should provide you with most of the information you need to make a good decision. Hope this helps, and happy flashing!
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I've tried pretty much every ROM available (save for quite a few GB ROMs and two JB ROMs), and I feel that the CM10 Paranoid Android is the smoothest ROM available. Every ICS ROM is smooth when you first install it (and I especially love all the features in Domination and Genesis), but after a week or so of use, your phone will start lagging again. With PA, lag is at a minimum. I was on CM9 PA last before getting sick of lag before switching to a GB ROM for a month or so, then decided to finally try out CM10 PA because I just missed flashing new ROMs and I was very impressed. CM10 version runs WAY better than CM9.

I just rooted my phone about 1 week ago and used the guide that the OP posted..everything worked great...I'm currently running hellfire 2.3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420972&highlight=hellfire+2+3) and freaking loving it...sooo much better than stock...basically follow the directions from the thread you posted and you'll be fine...

It depends on how important it is to you to have good picture quality with your phone. Even though this phone doesn't have the greatest camera, the stock camera is the best. If you flash to a CM ROM the quality is horrible. I love the performance of CM, but the camera quality was a deal breaker for me.
I ended up trying some stock 2.3.3 roms, but I have ended up back on my rooted stock running 2.3.4 with some tweaks from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806868&highlight=tweaks and I am running faux's 14b2 kernel. With these two things my phone runs really good.

skarookidoo said:
It depends on how important it is to you to have good picture quality with your phone. Even though this phone doesn't have the greatest camera, the stock camera is the best. If you flash to a CM ROM the quality is horrible. I love the performance of CM, but the camera quality was a deal breaker for me.
I ended up trying some stock 2.3.3 roms, but I have ended up back on my rooted stock running 2.3.4 with some tweaks from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806868&highlight=tweaks and I am running faux's 14b2 kernel. With these two things my phone runs really good.
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You know that there is a port of the original lg cam for cm7 right?

partylikeaninjastar said:
I've tried pretty much every ROM available (save for quite a few GB ROMs and two JB ROMs), and I feel that the CM10 Paranoid Android is the smoothest ROM available. Every ICS ROM is smooth when you first install it (and I especially love all the features in Domination and Genesis), but after a week or so of use, your phone will start lagging again. With PA, lag is at a minimum. I was on CM9 PA last before getting sick of lag before switching to a GB ROM for a month or so, then decided to finally try out CM10 PA because I just missed flashing new ROMs and I was very impressed. CM10 version runs WAY better than CM9.
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Do you have a link to the CM10 Paranoid Android you're referring to? I was able to find http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891480 which says it's CM10, although says alpha and hackfest stating it's buggy. The other version that I found was CM9. Is this the version you're saying is the smoothest?

Tr33x0rs said:
Do you have a link to the CM10 Paranoid Android you're referring to? I was able to find http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891480 which says it's CM10, although says alpha and hackfest stating it's buggy. The other version that I found was CM9. Is this the version you're saying is the smoothest?
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That's the one. It's no less buggy than any ICS ROM if that's the flavor your going for. CM10 is smoother than CM9. At least in my experience. Does anyone else want to chime in?

The only thing that took me back to CM9 was the battery drain issue on CM10.
On a different note: my phone only likes stock ROMs, but I recent found out about Weapon a New Clip, and it is pretty sweet, and just as reliable as anything else I've ever used
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CM10 Paranoid looks soo beautiful and I'm really tempted to try it out, but I have a really good thing going on right now with the hellfire...it's super stable and smooth plus I have a ics theme on it so that keeps things fresh for me. I do have one question for those on CM10 Paranoid. Is it stable enough that you can run the 4.2 gapps or any themes/launchers on it??

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You know that there is a port of the original lg cam for cm7 right?
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I know I tried it. Not a whole lot of difference. I had my wife's stock g2x to do a side by side comparison. I was hoping it would be better.

Unrooting and bringing back to stock.
Hey guys, I rooted my phone and installed Hellfire sandwhich about a month ago. The rom seemed to run good at first, and progressively get slower. I just picked up a Nexus 7 and have no desire to run custom roms on my phone anymore as the tablet has all the bells and whistles, therefore at this point i want to bring my phone back to original condition.
I used this guide to root my phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1594650 and installed HFS from there. I am looking at threads to unroot and some of them are using ADB. The first thing that I did is to load my Nandroid backup from when I oringinally rooted my phone, and I am receiving the message saying "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!". I have gone to this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714114, but I am unable to access my phone via ADB, as it's saying "Error: Device not found". I have tried to boot into CWM and plug the phone in there, but appears that all my drivers are not loading - http://puu.sh/1JH8J and it's still saying device not found. I have tried enabling USB debugging, as well as turning it off. When I plug the phone in, I only have the option of "Media Device (MTP)" or "Camera (PTP), no "charge only" option under "USB Computer Connection".
I am unsure what to do at this point. I have installed the "LGUnitedMobileDriver S4981MAN38AP22 ML WHQL Ver 3.8.1" drivers and still receiving the same error. Sorry if this has been addressed, as I'm sure it has, but can someone point me in the right direction. Thank you!

Tr33x0rs said:
Hey guys, I rooted my phone and installed Hellfire sandwhich about a month ago. The rom seemed to run good at first, and progressively get slower. I just picked up a Nexus 7 and have no desire to run custom roms on my phone anymore as the tablet has all the bells and whistles, therefore at this point i want to bring my phone back to original condition.
I used this guide to root my phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1594650 and installed HFS from there. I am looking at threads to unroot and some of them are using ADB. The first thing that I did is to load my Nandroid backup from when I oringinally rooted my phone, and I am receiving the message saying "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!". I have gone to this thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714114, but I am unable to access my phone via ADB, as it's saying "Error: Device not found". I have tried to boot into CWM and plug the phone in there, but appears that all my drivers are not loading - http://puu.sh/1JH8J and it's still saying device not found. I have tried enabling USB debugging, as well as turning it off. When I plug the phone in, I only have the option of "Media Device (MTP)" or "Camera (PTP), no "charge only" option under "USB Computer Connection".
I am unsure what to do at this point. I have installed the "LGUnitedMobileDriver S4981MAN38AP22 ML WHQL Ver 3.8.1" drivers and still receiving the same error. Sorry if this has been addressed, as I'm sure it has, but can someone point me in the right direction. Thank you!
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Have you tried this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048274 and unroot with SuperOneClick or whatever.
OP have you tried an MIUI based ROM? That's always been a bit of a different experience for me.

footwork* said:
Have you tried this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048274 and unroot with SuperOneClick or whatever.
OP have you tried an MIUI based ROM? That's always been a bit of a different experience for me.
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I have tried this, and that's when I'm receiving the "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!" error after choosing to restore.

Tr33x0rs said:
I have tried this, and that's when I'm receiving the "Checking MD5 sums...MD5 mismatch!" error after choosing to restore.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835914

im so sick!!!
partylikeaninjastar said:
I've tried pretty much every ROM available (save for quite a few GB ROMs and two JB ROMs), and I feel that the CM10 Paranoid Android is the smoothest ROM available. Every ICS ROM is smooth when you first install it (and I especially love all the features in Domination and Genesis), but after a week or so of use, your phone will start lagging again. With PA, lag is at a minimum. I was on CM9 PA last before getting sick of lag before switching to a GB ROM for a month or so, then decided to finally try out CM10 PA because I just missed flashing new ROMs and I was very impressed. CM10 version runs WAY better than CM9.
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I'm sick of gingerbread!
I want sum different. I've had eaglesblood 2.3.4 for years on my g2x and I have tried
Hellfire - works for a while then stuff goes wrong after a wk or so
Tried ICS - stuff is always wrong
On MIUI - and simple stuff is not working after days
I have been flashing phones for a very long time and all the ROMs above I have flashed over n over again and the fact still remains. They DONT Work!
I'm about to flash my eaglesblood back because that's the only thing that works the longest wit no bugs.
is there anything available besides eaglesblood that's stable?
geesh!!

intrygue83 said:
I'm sick of gingerbread!
I want sum different. I've had eaglesblood 2.3.4 for years on my g2x and I have tried
Hellfire - works for a while then stuff goes wrong after a wk or so
Tried ICS - stuff is always wrong
On MIUI - and simple stuff is not working after days
I have been flashing phones for a very long time and all the ROMs above I have flashed over n over again and the fact still remains. They DONT Work!
I'm about to flash my eaglesblood back because that's the only thing that works the longest wit no bugs.
is there anything available besides eaglesblood that's stable?
geesh!!
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I think Marie Antoinette said, If they don't like Gingerbread then let them eat cake, or something similar.

Any reliable JB roms?

Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?

Every jb Rom is very reliable ..if you're getting bootloops and force closes and all that you're doing something wrong ...full wipe system and data each time you flash a new Rom ...but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable

Wrong. Factory wipes every time. Doing nothing different than with any other ICS rom.
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What Hboot are you running?
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beankid said:
What Hboot are you running?
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1.09

I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.

gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot

I haven't gotten a single ROM.out of the scope of sense that has the video function correctly. When I replay videos recorded, there is a high pitched ring. Its on every single aosp ROM.
If that doesn't need to work correctly, you should be good to go.
If you are on new hboot just flash kernel first and wipe caches, and system. Then flash ROM and gapps.
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gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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If that's really what you need, stick with an ICS rom or go stock. The JB roms are all ported over; there are no Sense JB roms for the One X yet.

absolutelygrim said:
How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot
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I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.

Stick to stock buddy if your going to have to rely greatly on these things than basically your answering your own question go back to a sense Rom or stock ... Peace

gpo1956 said:
I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.
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adb logcat (which for some reason tells you exactly why you bootloop and force close.. Pretty weird right?)
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I've NO problems with any of the jellybean ROMs
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I agree. I've tried a few and they've been rock solid for me. You're doing something wrong. Goo back to stock.
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gpo1956 said:
Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?
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Are you titanium restoring your apps and data from a sence rom ? If you are that will give you problems, like your saying.
Install all apps fresh and just restore data.

Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:

CM10 would be your best bet, as it's mostly the base for all the others to add further on top of it, so it would stand to reason that CM would be the most stable, and I can confirm that. I'm running CM10 and it's been completely stable for me. No force closes, definitely no bootloops or random reboots. The trouble at the moment on the AOSP JB side is kernels. If you stick with the stock CM10 kernel, you're pretty good. rohan's kernel is the only other kernel to add to that, and it's got some major bugs right now that DO cause bootloops and random reboots.
That said, I think you answer your own question pretty well. If you want a phone that's 100% stable and the best all around ROM for everything, it would be fairly obvious that you'd want to stick to a ROM based off a stock Sense ROM. As with anything, using something that's in development or testing isn't going to be as stable for someone has mission critical needs. The biggest gap between Sense based ICS ROMs and AOSP JB ROMs right now is the battery life. With Sense ROMs I can EASILY get 24 hours at a minimum pretty much, granted that's with less calls than you say you're making. JB is still a little lacking, there I get a full day on average, but a lot of use could lower that. If you use your phone as much as you say, you'd probably want to stick with ICS roms with better battery life.
The biggest thing is to stay away from kernels with overclocking, undervolting, other governors, etc. While this can provide a nice boost and extra features, and can be fairly stable depending on the kernel, all of those provide big wildcards for system stability, especially OC/UV which entirely depends on how well your specific phone accepts being pushed.
So, are JB ROMs stable? I'd absolutely say yes without hesitation. Are they the right ROMs for you? Probably not.

gpo1956 said:
Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:
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All the opinions circle back to the simple answer that the problem lies with you. Obviously since you refuse to do anything other than complain you should just relock your bootloader and RUU to stock if you want something reliable.
You also refuse to even post a logcat, which proves to me you don't care enough.
And as I said earlier.. It's a magical little tool invented by fairies that tells you exactly what the problem is.
Let me explain this to you.
Are they reliable? Yes.
Can we make the decision for you? NO.
You can be the only person in the world having these problems, doesn't change the fact that the ROMs are amazing and stable.
So instead of coming in here and not taking any advice, take your own advice.. Do what you want to do.

CM10 installed fine without any problems for me.

I run my business from the field and this phone does it all. On average I do about 25 calls and 30or so emails daily. CM10 serves me just fine.
Learn to rom.