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Still on the fence.... yet another root question

I know that my question has been answered in countless threads.... but what I'm hoping to do is get this information compiled into one thread (and if it exists already, please point me there).
What I'm wondering is who's stock, who's rooted, what ROM you're running and if you had any issues.
I'm really not looking for any fixes to problems in this thread, just a simple compilation to get percentages, because I like to play the numbers.
I'll even start:
Stock Inspire with official sideloading and custom APN for hotspot
Only a random occurance where screen rotation stops
Owned since April 22

I've run LeeDroid and Android Revolution so far. With both ROM's I've noticed nice improvements in overall responsiveness of the phone. However, both suffer slight lag from the application Slacker Radio (just in case you enjoy streaming music ) that builds up over time to the point where I have to reset my phone just to continue to use it.
With LeeDroid, I've noticed that my Pandora app doesn't give it lag, or such a small amount that I don't really notice/care about it.
I've run a lot of Radio's (With their RIL) so I won't go into that, but the only Kernel I've ever played with was the oen for LeeDroid. Dunno if it actually did anything.
LeeDroid also, of the two (three if you count stock) ROM's I've run has the best battery life by far. Can't really go into official numbers since I've been tweaking my phone non-stop for a week now working out a few signal/speed bugs, however I've noticed that I don't have to plug it into my external battery except once a day, even after tweaking and adjusting non-stop for 4-6 hours.
So yeah, that's my take on it. If you're willing to sit down and play with things to get it to work, I'd say go for it. If you want something quick and easy, then I'd suggest maybe holding off a bit and enjoying stock.

Well, I ran my phone bone stock for the first 3 weeks of owning it, then rooted without any issue using bubby's simple root method.
Waited another ~1.5 months before flashing the rom I'm using now, Inspired Ace.
The rom has been a flawless, near stock (sense) gingerbread experience. I often forget I even flashed anything, except for the little gingerbread differences, of course.
Seriously, my guess is that an offical gb release from HTC for this phone would look nearly identical to this rom.
Haven't done anything radio-wise aside from flashing the matching ril for the stock radio. I haven't even updated to the new OTA radio yet.
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Scott_S said:
Well,....
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Are you the unadventurous stick in the mud.

Tx Redneck said:
Are you the unadventurous stick in the mud.
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Nah. I've actually been getting the "itch."
There's so many roms to check out, and I'm running out of excuses not to try some.
I'm just still a little hazy on some of the pre-flashing procedures, mainly cwr related. Like differences between "wiping" and format /system, /data, etc.
I'm finding that trying too hard to avoid misery before it happens results in perpetual inaction, though.
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I just got the Inspire last week (my first Android phone), and I can't help but tinker, so I've rooted and put a custom ROM on already. (LeeDroid and now CyanogenMod 7) I found these two video guides to be very helpful, as I wasn't familiar with a lot of the terminology people throw around.
Rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCcd1XQrTzE
Custom ROM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUo9EMlT5Y
Be warned, this took me a lot longer than I anticipated (a couple of hours total, but I was multi tasking. [multi tasking = watching Game of Thrones]).
I really like CM7, it feels faster than stock and my battery life seems better as well.
Good luck!

I ran Stock for about 2 days. No known Issues.
I then Rooted and Ran Bubby's one click and ran the rooted stock RUU for about 3 days. No Known issues.
I then flashed Ace Inspired. It was fantastic. I ran it for about 2 days. Only issue I had was screen would stick in rotation. It just wouldn't move. A Reboot fixed it. I made a back so I could easily return to it. I haven't.
I then flashed Leedriod. I have been running this rom since. Its amazing. I have seen no issues. I Also made a Backup of this rom so I could easily return to it. I have.
I then flashed Gingerbeast yesterday. Its fast and clean. But...Sirius Radio would randomly disconnect. Wireless would random disconnect. Bluetooth stuttered.
I returned to Leedriod this morning. Again, no issues.

When my inspire was stock everything seemed to work like it should. Except I had one huge problem, and its a problem that I have had with any phone from at&t, I had absolutely zero service here in southwest Wisconsin where I'm going to school.
I then decided to root in hopes that with a new radio I could get signal. I went with Leedroids Rom and kernel and couldn't be happier. Now I get full service edge! I didn't even have to mess with the radio.
I still can't believe that with those two changes I get great service. I'm comparing to 3 phones all on the same network, razr, blackjack 2, and Samsung flight 2. The inspire was the second to worst service here, now blows all of the other phones out of the water.
Thanks Leedroid!!

Scott_S said:
Well, I ran my phone bone stock for the first 3 weeks of owning it, then rooted without any issue using bubby's simple root method.
Waited another ~1.5 months before flashing the rom I'm using now, Inspired Ace.
The rom has been a flawless, near stock (sense) gingerbread experience. I often forget I even flashed anything, except for the little gingerbread differences, of course.
Seriously, my guess is that an offical gb release from HTC for this phone would look nearly identical to this rom.
Haven't done anything radio-wise aside from flashing the matching ril for the stock radio. I haven't even updated to the new OTA radio yet.
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1. Dl ROM of choice and save to SD Card.
2. Backup SMS/MMS w/ SMS Backup+ and sync to your google acct.
3. Make sure your Contacts are Synced
4. Backup Apps w/ TiBu or the like
5. Boot to recovery/CWM from Rom Mgr(if your current rom doesn't have the advanced shut down menu.)
6. Go to Backup/Restore and backup your current config
7. Go to Format System/Factory reset and run that
8. Go to Advanced and select Wipe Dalvik Cache
9. Go to Install zip from sd card> choose zip from sd card
10. Flash anything else that you're wanting/needing w/ that particular rom(some require flashing gapps)
11. Reboot System and complete setup like a new phone
12. DL TiBu or the like and restore apps
13. I can't think of anything else.

Aosp Gingerbread. Fastest, best stock gingerbread rom ever. Never made it past rc1; only problem is Bluetooth doesn't work. Which doesn't bother me one bit.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

I keep seeing people getting ripped for rooting business phones. I'm a self employed IT tech, and I use my phone for everything from remote access (RDP& TeamViewer) to mobile doc (Docs2Go) to social networking to business calls to gaming to kill time.
Would I be stupid to root this phone?

Tx Redneck said:
1. Dl ROM of choice and save to SD Card.
2. Backup SMS/MMS w/ SMS Backup+ and sync to your google acct.
3. Make sure your Contacts are Synced
4. Backup Apps w/ TiBu or the like
5. Boot to recovery/CWM from Rom Mgr(if your current rom doesn't have the advanced shut down menu.)
6. Go to Backup/Restore and backup your current config
7. Go to Format System/Factory reset and run that
8. Go to Advanced and select Wipe Dalvik Cache
9. Go to Install zip from sd card> choose zip from sd card
10. Flash anything else that you're wanting/needing w/ that particular rom(some require flashing gapps)
11. Reboot System and complete setup like a new phone
12. DL TiBu or the like and restore apps
13. I can't think of anything else.
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Thanks Tx, I appreciate that. I have yet to flash a rom the "regular" way, that is, other than rom manager, with the exception of rooting, but that was rather automated, so having these step-by-steps is extremely helpful.
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ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I keep seeing people getting ripped for rooting business phones. I'm a self employed IT tech, and I use my phone for everything from remote access (RDP& TeamViewer) to mobile doc (Docs2Go) to social networking to business calls to gaming to kill time.
Would I be stupid to root this phone?
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Not necessarily. There was a recent thread where someone was having problems with sound quality on his phone, which he depended on heavily for work, but i suspected other factors involved with that.
I'll tell you right now, this here phone in my hands is work-ready. Rooted and flashed a stable non-stock rom.
If anything, maybe if you had a backup phone just as a CYA type of thing for the process and a "burn-in" period, in case you run into some speedbumps along the way.
I mean, if you plan on going off hard on the flashing thing, then just due to the shear number of rom changes, something is bound to get a little goofy on the software end, but not anything that isn't fixable, for the most part.
When you start getting careless with things like partitioning or radio flashing, then you could run into some serious problems.
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A few points:
-it's very, very hard to brick your phone by rooting and flashing roms, so if you're stressing about that at all, don't. It only gets dicey is you are flashing radios via fastboot or messing with ENG-OFF. You don't need to do either of those things, and you won’t either accidentally.
-tinkering and trying many roms is very easy. If you do a nandroid backup (aka a backup with Clockworkmod recovery), you’re golden. It takes about 5 minutes to do a backup. If you want to come back to the previous rom, simply restore in Clockworkmod recovery. EVERYTHING will restore as it was before. After you do a backup, boot up and rename the backup file to something meaningful, like “Dilligaf5-20110534”. Make sure there are no spaces in the name, or Clockworkmod recovery will upchuck. The backup files are on your SD card in the \clockworkmod\backup directory. I have a collection of 10 backup roms. I can restore any one of them in 5 minutes with all my settings intact.
-if you are going from froyo to froyo or gb to gb, you can used Titanium backup to backup and restore sms/mms. Just backup “dialer storage”. When you get your new rom up, restore dialer storage. You will have to reboot after you restore in order to see your sms/mms messages.
-buy Setcpu and root explorer.
-checkout the rom kitchen. You can do lots of neat stuff like changing the battery meter, status bar, icons, fonts, animation, and boot animation. http://uot.dakra.lt/
-AOSP roms like CM7 and others are very fast and have good battery life, but some the apps are not as feature-rich. For example e-mail is missing a lot of options.
-GB roms (like LeeDroid and AR) are nice, but to me, GB doesn’t really have that much to offer over Froyo. LeeDroid has a great kernel and battery life. It also has a really nice call recorder. From a UI perspective
-My favorite rom is Dilligaf 2.0. You should give it a try.

Since I can't delete, just ignore this post. Lol
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

Thanks a abunch guys!
I knew it was really a matter of "when" not "if" (My iPhone was JB when I bought it.... A guy wanted it unlocked, so I JB it for him and then saw that it was 3.1.3 before they had released the exploit for that baseband, so I bought it _CHEAP_)
Anyway, Looks like I have a project for this weekend
Since this is my thread, I'll feel free to derail it a bit.....
Any reviewsa on MIUI? I like Sense, but mostly just b/c I think that HTC's clock widget is >*, and I see that MIUI's widget is very similar.

You could just buy beautiful widgets and use it on whatever rom you prefer.

Ultimate Droid.
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I rooted and tried several ROMs. RCMixHD and TB Fusion were both nice, but the keyboard seemed to lag and freexe a good bit on those. Inspired Ace is the ROM I am currently on. I used the battery calibration technique used here to maximize my battery usage. For the battery history section of that thread be sure to grab this app, as the method listed there is not coded into GB ROMs. I have flashed ROMs once or twice and they have not booted, but a simple battery pull and boot to clockworkmod recovery (turn on with power and volume down buttons pressed at the same time then scroll to recovery) to wipe and reflash worked fine.

Well, I now officially have no warranty
Waiting for my SD contents to copy back over, and I think I'll start with Inspired Ace.
I welcome recommendations, but for now I think I'll stick with Sense ROMs.

Which custom (sense) ROM will you prefer for sensation 4g?

There are several major custom ROM out there for the sensation 4g, which one would you prefer?
Android Revolution HD, Virtuous and Leedroid seem to be the leading group out there, I was an CM loyal with my old G2 so need some advice here.
For now their difference seems to be quite little, but i am not familiar with custom Sense ROM, which team has the biggest upside? Thx.
Sense ROM only folks! I know there are a lot of love for CM, I am a big fan too, but i think sense has done some great job.
I just hope someone will allow sense launcher to resize widget, which will Sense the perfect choice.

None..
Until there is a TMOUS based one released I won't be flashing these WWE roms. T-Mobile Visual Voicemail doesn't work, along with MyAcccount which is good for checking on my minutes and notifying me when I am low. From what I read, the OTA for Sensation 4G is to be released within a week or two and from there hopefully we will get a rom like CMYLXGO's HD2 Desire.

The My Account app works fine of Crystal Pyramid rom
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I tried all three of them. Leedroid seems to be laggy. Android Revolution HD feels a little faster than the stock ROM and that's about it. Virtuous seems to be faster than the stock ROM too, and I like how they added more options to the quick settings. Like volume control, brightness control, etc... But camera flash doesnt work on Virtuous. Sorry for the negative comments. I'm just not a fan of sense. It feels bloated to me.

Whats with all the ROMs anyways? Why not use something like ADW EX, freeze Sense, and then get setCPU working instead?
I wish someone would have a simple method to perm. root the S-OFF devices and then let us do what we want. Why do we have to flash a ROM just to have perm root AND a glitch free phone?
I perm rooted via the methods in the new guide, but wound up being one of the losers that lost WIFI and had to flash back to my stock ROM.
Now I am back with temp root, ADW EX, and titanium backup. My phone is faster than I care for it to be. (I wouldnt notice any more speed). Id love to be able to turn off my phone and not have to go re-root and redo setcpu each time. Also, Id love to see Adfree work for a change.
Matt

Missing camera flash depends on new OC-kernel and is in all OC-roms

mrg02d said:
Whats with all the ROMs anyways? Why not use something like ADW EX, freeze Sense, and then get setCPU working instead?
I wish someone would have a simple method to perm. root the S-OFF devices and then let us do what we want. Why do we have to flash a ROM just to have perm root AND a glitch free phone?
I perm rooted via the methods in the new guide, but wound up being one of the losers that lost WIFI and had to flash back to my stock ROM.
Now I am back with temp root, ADW EX, and titanium backup. My phone is faster than I care for it to be. (I wouldnt notice any more speed). Id love to be able to turn off my phone and not have to go re-root and redo setcpu each time. Also, Id love to see Adfree work for a change.
Matt
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I feel sorry about your case, but your point is totally unrelated to this discussion. I like ADW and other vanilla launcher, but Sense has done a really good job on many different things (well, at the very least if someone could come up with the same flip clock, I will probably be moving back to non-Sense).

I've tried them all. The one by Sergio is the best.

Hey,
I’m currently flashed too Android Revolution HD 1.1.3, but I’m not sure wether to swap to LeeDroiD. Revolution HD is nice, but the built in SOC over clocker really don’t work well, the UI is as smooth as anything but in games and benchmarks the FPS and scores are so much lower in this revision!

thebigham said:
... But camera flash doesnt work on Virtuous...
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Thanks for pointing this out. Restoring to official (nandroid backup). I'm gonna need flash soon.
I tried CoreDroid already. It's the most atractive, realy beautiful, but feels slower than official.

Lee's new update seems to have fixed most of the Lag on mine. Then again, I haven't tried the others...yet.
But the camera flash doesn't seem to be working yet, even on the new updated ROM.

freco said:
Thanks for pointing this out. Restoring to official (nandroid backup). I'm gonna need flash soon.
I tried CoreDroid already. It's the most atractive, realy beautiful, but feels slower than official.
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I think you could fix that by flashing a stock Kernel.

I've tested Android HD and Virtuous, seems like Virtuous is a bit smoother and includes many nice tweaks.
I wish any of these sense rom will have the flexiblity like CM

insertCoin
I'm using insert coin at the moment and it seems really smooth and fast. I was looking around to see if there were any EVEN better. This ROM has the same issue with the camera flash which as someone said, is cause by the processor overclocking and is common to all OC kernels atm. Perhaps some of these custom ROMs may have correctly functioning flash with the Stock kernel?

I have tried all the ROMs on the development page and wasn't thrilled with any of them. I ended up going back to Tmos. The reason is that My Acct won't run if you are on Wifi but it can do that on the stock. As one of the previous posters pointed out, visual voicemail doesn't work. I also ran the Quadrant Standard and the performance was sub par. On the stock ROM, I get scores into the 2300s. With the others, I was getting scores between 1400 and 1900. Very pitiful for all the performance promises.

Hopefully within the next couple of weeks the ROMs should improve significantly, unto that point I’m going to switch from Revolution HD to LeeDroid.

Android Revolution HD at the moment. Single core over clock @1.8ghz smooth and fast. Here's my quadrant.

The Revolution HD 1.1.3 works well for now...until my next flash

I've only flash Revolution HD and the latest 1.1.3 update is even better. I won't bother flashing other ROMs until an AOSP one comes out, but this one is plenty fast at the moment. Quadrant scores don't mean anything to me.

is it possibile to just de-odex the stock tmobile us rom and theme a little, also tweak a little. i love the stock rom because everything is working every time i try a custom rom theres always a give or take like the camera flash not working and so on

[Q] Noob lookinor someadvice/answers.......

Im fairly new to the phone mod game and im the only one of my friends who gives a damn. Needless to say that means ive no one to talk to about this stuff. I recently rooted my Inspire (aahk) works great. Now my phone is insane with speeds like ive never seen. However i was flashing some roms around trying to find the one just right for me, and thought id try CM7 did a full wipe. Being the impulsive person i am i only backed up on my SD and when it told me to do a partition i didnt consider the consequences..... So now im stuck with CM7 (not for me) and i guess ive got to start all over. In trying to download new ROMS it seems that only the ones n the premium section will really change the whole phone. Is there a way i can get back to the ROM it had me on just after rooting? Or am i starting all over? would it be wise to unroot and start over? i really dont like the ADW base of CM7. I had been running HoneySense which was awesome but could barely use my data other than the Market..... Yes i know im long winded but like i stated. Ive got no friends that give a damn about their phones. ANY hints tips advice would be appreciated. And to all of you developers, keep up the good work, i envy your skills.... 2 years ago i could barely check an email, and have been learning as much as possible as quick as possible. Thanks for reading my nonsensical ramblings

Also what is the difference with the nandroid and clockworkmod? can i use apps for both or are they root specific... You can laugh if you like

Your nandroid/cwm backups will backup your entire rom. Forget restoring those if you want to go to a different rom. You need to be rooted if you want to perform these actions, but you already are rooted. If you want to backup your apps then use Titanium backup or My backup root to backup just your apps. Don't backup system stuff. You can flash any of the roms in the development section. You do not need to root again. Always wipe before flashing a new rom. In recovery you select wipe and choose to wipe cache, dalvik cache, data/factory reset, and you can also format system if you want. Don't wipe anything else. Backup your data that you want to save before wiping.

Pretty much what Wolf is saying..Also @Diesel321, So what is it that over all your looking to do with your phone.?
Some of the biggest ?s that is asked a lot when it comes to roms is stability,battery life.And whats the "best" and there is really no "best" one. But for I would recommend NinjaRom. I have been running that for @ least 5months and only had minor issue which was fixed from the support team. Also tried android rev,CoreDroid all good stuff.
But when you do flash its a good idea to do a back up. Which I go through ClockWorkMod (CWM) and select back up and I aslo save each back to my sd card and save it the pc to a folder that I created for my Roms/Tweaks/Add-Ons/etc..
but if you need any other ?s just ask or Pm Me glad to help out.

Thanks to both of you guys... Overall i want to speed up my system (which the "set cpu" app and all overclocking apps confuse me) I have tried all different kinds of settings and the only way i can get a decent result is through wifi. Also batterylife and the more i learn about phones the more i like so the deeper i dive the more intriuged i become... I always want more faster and better.As far as ROMS anything based or similar to CM7 i do not like, before i eber rooted i tried the ADW launcher and am not a fan of the set up. I love the sense roms, but the only ones i can find through cwm are HoneySense which only lets me access my data through the market (no browser, no email, no google, no FB) i installed Leedroid last night and its ok but the specs of Honey Wonder look awesome. I cant find it on cwm and i cant seem to gert it from my computer to my phone. Im about to try and put my SD into the cpu and do it that way. When i backup my Apps should i backup my data for them as well? ANd then can i restore them over any rom? or do i go back and restore them from the market, can i save my home screens to restore the way i like them or do i have to do it manually any time? Im sorry if im overloading with questons but as i stated previously none of my friends give a damn about any of this stuff, except one and he kniows about a quarter of what i know. Hes wanting to root his LG OPtimus C but i told him to wait till i learn more about it, also i dont know if there is a root for it. Any other tips and advice are always welcomed appreciated and thanked... Again thanks guys.. One more. Why cant i seem to download anything from my XDA Premium App? that would make my life much easier

wow that was a mouthful, you should be able to download from xda but if your having trouble try-menu-browser also your not limited to only inspire roms the DHD is almost the same phone and is global and non-branded (INSPIRE 4G-AT&T) so check out some of these.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
once you try some sence 3.5 youll never go back

Diesel321 said:
Thanks to both of you guys... Overall i want to speed up my system (which the "set cpu" app and all overclocking apps confuse me) I have tried all different kinds of settings and the only way i can get a decent result is through wifi. Also batterylife and the more i learn about phones the more i like so the deeper i dive the more intriuged i become... I always want more faster and better.As far as ROMS anything based or similar to CM7 i do not like, before i eber rooted i tried the ADW launcher and am not a fan of the set up. I love the sense roms, but the only ones i can find through cwm are HoneySense which only lets me access my data through the market (no browser, no email, no google, no FB) i installed Leedroid last night and its ok but the specs of Honey Wonder look awesome. I cant find it on cwm and i cant seem to gert it from my computer to my phone. Im about to try and put my SD into the cpu and do it that way. When i backup my Apps should i backup my data for them as well? ANd then can i restore them over any rom? or do i go back and restore them from the market, can i save my home screens to restore the way i like them or do i have to do it manually any time? Im sorry if im overloading with questons but as i stated previously none of my friends give a damn about any of this stuff, except one and he kniows about a quarter of what i know. Hes wanting to root his LG OPtimus C but i told him to wait till i learn more about it, also i dont know if there is a root for it. Any other tips and advice are always welcomed appreciated and thanked... Again thanks guys.. One more. Why cant i seem to download anything from my XDA Premium App? that would make my life much easier
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Ok.... Where to start... You can back up your apps with data. I restore those because for like any programs such as browsers or any games I want to restore the settings and bookmarks, passwords, etc. Before I restore in a new rom I go through the checked programs that are supposed to be restored, Apps with data in Titanium Backup Pro, and make sure I am only restoring "my" apps. I have often found that TB likes to also backup HTC Sense, etc. I do not want to restore any system apps since this would more than likely cause a problem with the new rom.
As far as overclocking is concerned, a lot of the newer versions of roms do not use SetCPU anymore. They use the Virtuous overclocking daemon script. This works much faster than SetCPU. Using SetCPU with these roms will disable the daemon. the information on the kernel and the overclocking daemon is usually listed in the first post of the rom thread. You can install Sybergunne's Daemon Controller app if it is not already installed to easily change the settings. Overclock carefully. Every phone is different and not all can go as high as others. Some may run stable at 1.6 GHz and others are only stable at 1.1 GHz.
If you are looking for faster data speeds, then that is already cooked into the roms by the developers, although there may always be some tweaking that can be performed. Speed for data is very subjective, because it really depends on your particular area. Radio's and RIL's make a difference also, but what works for me in my area may not work well for you. It is really a trial and error procedure to find out what works for you.
You are looking for sense roms, so Sense 3.0 and 3.5 are the latest for our phones. Go through the Inspire and Desire HD development threads and read the rom descriptions to see what you like. Almost every DHD rom is made to also work with the Inspire. Links to both sections are posted below. Some rom ideas for you to look at are, Android Revolution HD, Rumrunner, Bindroid, RCMix roms, HoneyWonder roms, Cleardroid, Virtuous Unity, etc., etc. You need to decide which ones you want to try. Ok, that is my mouthful.
Inspire 4G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1018
Desire HD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
Inspire Radio Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324

I just installed HoneyWonder.... Its coldblooded Yea i get a little long winded from time to time

So when it comes to kernels i need to kflash them to their respected ROMs right

Diesel321 said:
So when it comes to kernels i need to kflash them to their respected ROMs right
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The rom comes with kernel but aosp kernels go with aosp (android open source project)=cm7 and sence kernels usually with all sence roms

People sometimes flash alternate kernels than what comes with the rom to experiment and see what the performance behavior is like. ALWAYS make a CWM/Nandroid backup of your rom before you flash any mods or kernels. Usually it does not happen, but sometimes a flashed mod or kernel can mess up your phone so it is good to have a backup in case of problems.

So I've got a 16gig SD and I've had to strip it down because it had 14 gigs of music on it. So after I rooted I took a bunch off. Would it be wise to keep 2 SXS? One I can jam too and another for downloading Rome and flashing? Also I CAN flash CM7 kernels to my Sense roms. Has anyone tried that Beatmod BlissSense. It seems cool but it doesn't seem to want to download. You guys are awesome and have helped me it tremendously. I may not be able to help with your computer problems or anything but if you need any advice on home repair or anything like that Im your guy.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191 using xda premium

Diesel321 said:
So I've got a 16gig SD and I've had to strip it down because it had 14 gigs of music on it. So after I rooted I took a bunch off. Would it be wise to keep 2 SXS? One I can jam too and another for downloading Rome and flashing? Also I CAN flash CM7 kernels to my Sense roms. Has anyone tried that Beatmod BlissSense. It seems cool but it doesn't seem to want to download. You guys are awesome and have helped me it tremendously. I may not be able to help with your computer problems or anything but if you need any advice on home repair or anything like that Im your guy.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191 using xda premium
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Beatmod BlissSense was awesome. Had some minor bugs for me, GPS signal was a littly nutty and my calls kept dropping. (I reflashed the rom when I found this was happening and the issue seemed to disappear). All in all, it was a great rom but since I'm new to the root thing, the flashing bug caught me and off I went into the xda forums..I'm currently running Android Revolution and of all the roms I've flashed, this is by far my favorite.

What exactly is "freezing" an app mean? I've got an idea I just want to make sure I'm right? Is it wise to delete bloatware apps? Would they come back if I needed to unroot?

Freezing an app is a little like deleting it, but safer. If you delete it, you may find out you have big problems because the system app will not reinstall correctly and you end up reinstalling the rom. With freezing you can take it out but restore it exactly the way it was in the system if things go wrong. If you are backing up your rom like you should in case of problems, then that backup usually takes over a gigabyte of space on your sd card, so it sounds like you definitely need to have another card with more space. You have to be careful what kernel you want to try. If it was written for CM7 it may not work with Sense based roms. Depends how it was coded. You have to research information on the kernel to see if it lists anything specific about proprietary installation. If not, then go ahead and try it. BACKUP YOUR ROM FIRST BEFORE FLASHING.

Nice about to flash HoneyWonder now to see whats up..
I see that wolf has covered you on some damn good topics..
I have flashed lots of roms this honey wonder will be like my 9th lol but it all depends on you and the flashing it will take time to see what you like. As to speeding up your phone like set cpu @ the time I found useful cause you were able to set profiles for phone like when its sleep mode set it for like low power. And when your using it have a higher mhz etc.. But I did use juice defender as an app which to me it worked very good.
But to me I like Roms that do not take up memory lol

So im downloading some ROMs to my newly dedicated SD Just curius if i eed anything other than the roms on there? I mean CWM and all of that should be not only on my phones memory but also in most roms correct? You guys have been a huge help! Im loving this honeywonder but want to play around soe more. Ia having a problem with it though sometimes when i try to reboot or anything that should take me to boot it simply will not do it. Ive installed the Inspirefix.zip but am still havingm some issues. And the phone is saying 3G ATT is that just what its saying and im still 4G or has the ROM taken me back to 3??? Just wondering Because its still hella fast im about to trey a readio and ril flash to try and get some more speed. Hopr i dont screw anyhting up

Diesel321 said:
So im downloading some ROMs to my newly dedicated SD Just curius if i eed anything other than the roms on there? I mean CWM and all of that should be not only on my phones memory but also in most roms correct? You guys have been a huge help! Im loving this honeywonder but want to play around soe more. Ia having a problem with it though sometimes when i try to reboot or anything that should take me to boot it simply will not do it. Ive installed the Inspirefix.zip but am still havingm some issues. And the phone is saying 3G ATT is that just what its saying and im still 4G or has the ROM taken me back to 3??? Just wondering Because its still hella fast im about to trey a readio and ril flash to try and get some more speed. Hopr i dont screw anyhting up
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I flashed honey with out the inspire fix if you did I would plug your phone back in go to you sd card and delete it out and reflash.
If you have not made a back up in cwm then do so and it will located in your sd card in the folder clock work and then a sub folder called back ups. I myself save that back on my pc just to have.
The 3g icon I had that and its ok.
My Pip Boy 3000

Captivate kk4 based rom opinions.

Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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I like the roms, nice and fast, good bluetooth.
No lag except that damn gallery bug, but i get that on other versions and on stock rogers gingerbread aswell.

Cor-master said:
Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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Opinions are like buttholes...just flash it and decide for yourself...going back to what you're running now if you don't like it is not difficult.
Qawnman said:
I like the roms, nice and fast, good bluetooth.
No lag except that damn gallery bug, but i get that on other versions and on stock rogers gingerbread aswell.
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Go to the market, get quickpic, you'll forget about the stock gallery entirely.

Well really just curious what everyone's using. Honestly there doesn't seem to be as many supported stock-based roms as their was on the earlier GB betas. I always used Cognition, but the most current version hasn't had an update since like July. I'm happy with Cyanogen for the most part, though it seems a bit buggier than stock. Really I just want a stock based rom with the theme engine and screenshot feature.

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Well really just curious what everyone's using. Honestly there doesn't seem to be as many supported stock-based roms as their was on the earlier GB betas. I always used Cognition, but the most current version hasn't had an update since like July. I'm happy with Cyanogen for the most part, though it seems a bit buggier than stock. Really I just want a stock based rom with the theme engine and screenshot feature.
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Neither of which exist on stock, and the first being impossible on stock.

I could of swore I've seen theme support in some of these roms. Either way guess I can always use uot kitchen.
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I didn't see what the big deal was about screenshots but in the month and a half I've had cyanogenmod I've found I use the feature all the time
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There are apps in the market that allow this. Shoot me is what i use...it also has a video feature, that will take a screen shot every so many seconds (depending on what you set it to) and then make it an mp4.
Oh and for theme support on a tw ROM, go to the market and get darky ota that should work. It injects the proper images and compiled xmls INTO the existing ROM, I've used it on mosaic, should work on all tw roms, I'd make a backup zip of the framework-res.apk and systemui.apk first though, that you can flash if it doesn't work. Or just reflash the ROM.

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I could of swore I've seen theme support in some of these roms. Either way guess I can always use uot kitchen.
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Yeah, but no theme engine. You have to flash them. Only the collectives have themes, and the others may have ICS themes.

I've thought about maybe just going to stock, removing the bloatware, installing corn kernal, installing a screenshot program, and then using UOT to get my themeing the way I want and calling it a day. That could work I suppose.
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Cor-master said:
I've thought about maybe just going to stock, removing the bloatware, installing corn kernal, installing a screenshot program, and then using UOT to get my themeing the way I want and calling it a day. That could work I suppose.
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Theres already a rom like that. Check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358180
Ive been using it for about a week now and its really stable. It comes with an older corn kernel though so you might want to flash the new one.

Nice! Thanks!
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I'm using the KK4-based version of SauROM (note that there's an I9000-based version too, which I haven't tried). It's mostly pretty nice, except that after a full day or maybe day and a half of use, the browser tends to go loopy. It freezes up and becomes non-responsive, and appears to be hogging the CPU, as hitting the home button doesn't repsond either. If I just put the phone down and walk away for half an hour, it's usually fine again when I get back, but I tend to just reboot instead which also fixes it. I find this annoying, but it's just infrequent enough to be tolerable. I've been meaning to try a different ROM to see if it's universal or not.

Cor-master said:
Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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Well I was on stock rogers 2.3.3. and I found it very laggy. no matter what launcher I used: go, adw, lp, even sbp shell. after a while lag would start up that would require a reboot or the phone would just shut off. Games would start out fine then start lagging. I then flashed cm7 and noticed an immediate improvement with minor overclocking but I would still get that lag, but not as bad as stock.
I then flashed teamhacks 4.0.3 ics rc14. I can never go back to GB. It is so intuitive, very smooth. The transitions are amazing. Even with no overclocking it is miles faster than stock or CM7. I was considering buying a new phone but now I will not be.
Since you are on cm7 now why don't you flash ics . its very simple to do since you already have cm7 installed. then you can decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
Hope this helps!

shaker2k said:
Well I was on stock rogers 2.3.3. and I found it very laggy. no matter what launcher I used: go, adw, lp, even sbp shell. after a while lag would start up that would require a reboot or the phone would just shut off. Games would start out fine then start lagging. I then flashed cm7 and noticed an immediate improvement with minor overclocking but I would still get that lag, but not as bad as stock.
I then flashed teamhacks 4.0.3 ics rc14. I can never go back to GB. It is so intuitive, very smooth. The transitions are amazing. Even with no overclocking it is miles faster than stock or CM7. I was considering buying a new phone but now I will not be.
Since you are on cm7 now why don't you flash ics . its very simple to do since you already have cm7 installed. then you can decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
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I thought about it, but I'm kind of waiting for stable CM9 to be complete first. I hear it has an issue with rebooting during calls. Trust me though I'm very eager to try out ICS. I ended up going with Illuminance, so far so good. I'm currently restoring all my apps ATM. I'll report back after I"m done.
This is off topic but why is Titanium backup soo sooo slow? Why do I have to sit there and say "install" and "done" on everything? I wish I could have all the time back in my life I spent restoring stoff with titanium backup

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I thought about it, but I'm kind of waiting for stable CM9 to be complete first. I hear it has an issue with rebooting during calls. Trust me though I'm very eager to try out ICS. I ended up going with Illuminance, so far so good. I'm currently restoring all my apps ATM. I'll report back after I"m done.
This is off topic but why is Titanium backup soo sooo slow? Why do I have to sit there and say "install" and "done" on everything? I wish I could have all the time back in my life I spent restoring stoff with titanium backup
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I too was reluctant to go from CM7 to CM9, but I eventually flashed it just to check it out, with no intention of staying. Long story short, I've been using CM9 for the past two weeks and it's definitely stable enough to be a daily driver, IMHO. I believe the phone call reboot was solved (I've never had it anyway), the only issue I have had was charge death, but that was solved by switching to the Glitch kernel. If you are waiting for it to be stable, your time may have come
As far as TB is concerned, the paid version lets you batch restore your apps. Well worth the $5 or however much it was.

So far so good on ilkuminance but I miss my screen shot feature, and all the apps in the market suck. Why would I want a camera icon hogging up my screen? Anyway, I may try ICS sooner than later
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I ran all of the stock GB roms, was not super impressed with them, switched to the SauROM KK4 and Love it. Very smooth, seems less buggy then stock kk4. Have had a few issues of it being unresoponsive for a minute or so everyonce in a while, but it seems to be rare.

Try SauromKK4 or FastyKK4
Advantage of SauROM is that it is one click Heimdall, and really hard to mess up.
I then tried Fasty - also pretty good.
I got the impression that SauROM is smoother.
But that Corn 7.0.5 kernel is buggy - beware!

I tried a few of the KK4 roms, but eventually went back to CM7 and Kangs because the speed and responsiveness.
Now I have a Captivate Glide and am waiting for dev to ramp up for it. The Glide is what I really wanted when I got the original a year and a half ago, so I am happy.

[Q] Whats so great about ICS?

So I'm currently running 2.3.6 as is out of the box, rooted, on my Skyrocket from ATT. If I switch to an ICS build of any kind, what am I gaining?
Can anyone convince me of why ICS is awesome and worth upgrading to?

Lol gingerbread sucks.. Sorry enough said
Edit... And stock gb too ouch
Too many things to name
Face unlock
Recent apps
Swipe to clear
Better cpu and gpu mgmt
Battery life etc...
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silverh20 said:
So I'm currently running 2.3.6 as is out of the box, rooted, on my Skyrocket from ATT. If I switch to an ICS build of any kind, what am I gaining?
Can anyone convince me of why ICS is awesome and worth upgrading to?
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Not much. It looks MUCH much nicer. We're talking 'beautiful' levels of UI changes. But other then that, not so much.
If you care how your phone looks (I do, I feel much more productive and use it better if I feel like it's a flashy looking device) then get ICS. If you don't, just wait.
Edit: Battery life is a bit better supposedly, but beyond that not too much

hm ok, i am a sucker for visuals. so if i decide to go with ICS can i run titanium backup pro and backup just my apps, then reinstall it after ICS and restore them?
also, what are some recommendations for ICS roms, im looking for stability and i dont want to lose any functionality

silverh20 said:
hm ok, i am a sucker for visuals. so if i decide to go with ICS can i run titanium backup pro and backup just my apps, then reinstall it after ICS and restore them?
also, what are some recommendations for ICS roms, im looking for stability and i dont want to lose any functionality
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Yes you can run TiBu, backup your apps and reinstall after you update the rom and restore from TiBu. Make sure you restore apps & data only, do not restore any system settings.
I'm running AOKP with Apex Launcher and love the clean base look and feel. http://aokp.co/index.php/news

silverh20 said:
So I'm currently running 2.3.6 as is out of the box, rooted, on my Skyrocket from ATT. If I switch to an ICS build of any kind, what am I gaining?
Can anyone convince me of why ICS is awesome and worth upgrading to?
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ICS is a very huge update, and a lot of it goes beyond just bullet point features (for which the list is a mile long)
Basically, ICS represents a near ground-up overhaul of the entire operating system, to make something smoother, faster, and more attractive, while adding a ton of small usability features that individually might not be much but add up to a big difference.
It's the biggest update in the history of the OS, plain and simple, and I've been through all of them since Cupcake (ok, I might have skipped Donut).

silverh20 said:
hm ok, i am a sucker for visuals. so if i decide to go with ICS can i run titanium backup pro and backup just my apps, then reinstall it after ICS and restore them?
also, what are some recommendations for ICS roms, im looking for stability and i dont want to lose any functionality
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I've tried both Cyanogenmod9 nightly, and embryo 3.2.
Without a doubt, embryo 3.2 is probably the coolest, most stable, and light-weight mod I've used. It's carefully tested and very stable. It retains touchwiz, has s-voice which works incredibly well, comes pre-installed with Titanium and superSU etc..
I liked cyanogenmod too, but it's still pretty buggy in its early stages.
Since I installed embryo 3.2, I haven't even bothered to look around at anything else.

Switched to seanzscreams skyics rom from gingerbread stock and I have not looked back. I had exceptional battery life in gb with the use of juice defender but in ics using jd only made it worse. So that convinced me right there. The way I look at it is why would you not want to upgrade to the newest release of android? Or at least just try it out. Use rom manager (assuming you're rooted or willing to root) to make a system image backup. It will literally back up everything that your phone is running. If you're dissatisfied with ics just revert back with rom manager.
Scribbled on my I727 running SkyICS 4.2F v6
Jelly beans!? F5F5F5F5F5

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Switched to seanzscreams skyics rom from gingerbread stock and I have not looked back. I had exceptional battery life in gb with the use of juice defender but in ics using jd only made it worse.
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Speaking of juice defender.
I'm having a terrible issue with "cell standby" eating through my battery. Today, I stuck juice defender on to see if i could curb the radio battery abuse.
I *do not* want to have to rely on something like juice defender to protect my battery from the cell standby issue. I'm just at a loss of what to do otherwise.
I'm all for trying seanzs sky ics, but i'm afraid that i'll just continue to have the same problem. after researching the issue, it appears that a lot of people who try roms of all types across various phones have the cell standby issue eating up juice.

ics 4.0.4 is very nice to the eyes if you had two phones one on gb and one on ics then you would tell there's just no comparison.
if you go with ics then look at aokp its very nice and about the closest your going to get to official google ics 4.0.4 .

Seriously just install the latest cm9 with ucle2 radio and instigators kernel try it and fall in love... Gb had its place but i very much doubt i could ever go back
CM9 Skyrocket

Its like going from Windows XP to Windows 7 :good: :silly:

I used AOKP on my Vibrant for like 5 months before getting my Skyrocket. Going from AOKP back to GB after so many months was brutal. Thankfully the ICS leak came out a week after I got my skyrocket
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UZ7 said:
Its like going from Windows XP to Windows 7 :good: :silly:
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One thing to point out on ICS is that the Skyrocket's processor APQ8060 was never fined tuned for Gingerbread 2.3.5 or 2.3.6. So the UI was choppy, and so was the video (when playing XviD encoded video).
I can wholeheartedly say ICS UI is much smoother, and the video playback is as smooth as it can be. The battery life on UCLF5 in my opinion is a big improvement over any ROM to date. It offers some small UI improvements in the taskbar, but a lot more under the hood.
With that said, Touchwiz kinda make it look all the same, which is a big downer. I use Apex Launcher to bring back the native ICS feel.

Everything is better. 2. Whatever version is like windows mobile, its dead. Really
Chimaira Android 4.0.4 (Beta2)

uh oh, major problem now. so i installed the paid premium rom manager, installed clockworkmod recovery, clockworkmod touch, and then used the download ROM, chose Cyanogenmod nightly, chose a distro from 7/2/12, phone rebooted, installed, rebooted, stuck in boot loop. when i go to recovery using the volume and power buttons i get the clockwork mod recovery 5.8.1.3 screen, but when i hit down volume to choose anything it freezes, goes, black, and refreshes with "reboot system now" selected.
now "reboot system now" is my only option, if i hit up or down, it will move to that choice, go black, and refresh and show "reboot system now" selected instead. ahhhh what do i do??
** escaped soft brick** phew

You do realize 5.8.1.3 is a "TOUCH" recovery. You dont use the volume rockers. When you try....recovery resets. You see it as freezing. And when you install the rom you need to wipe cache, dalvik, format data, format system. Then install rom. Hope things make sense now.

You ask what's so great about ICS. Well what's so great about apple pie? What's so great about American? What's so great about freedom? Explosions? Awesome movies? Oh yeah. EVERYTHING.
If you flash a ics rom, you should try aokp or chimera. Both awesome roms.
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You should never use rom manager to do all of that. You should have done it step by step using a guide made for you, the noob.