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[Q] Pros and Cons of various ICS ROMS now out

Hi All,
Any of you folks with extreme ORD tried many of the different ICS froms yet?
- a very silly question I'm sure! -
I have been following with building anticipation since the leak, but since the Fiscall Year was coming to a close at work I didn't dare begin experimenting for fear of getting sidetracked and losing what little sleep time I had left.
I would really like to hear the pros and cons of some of the various flavours of ICS now available in the "Skyrocket's One Stop Shop for All Things ICS 4.0!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573218 thread...
I'm on Rogers, and am especially interested in things like best radio for sound quality and LTE txfer speeds (there are only 2 so far right?), and what apps specifically are removed from the "debloat" versions... I obviously have zero need for ATT apps, but some of the Samsung bloatware might still be useful to me. Can TW be tossed out and replaced just as easily as with GB? I've been pleased with ADW EX, and would probably stick with it unless there's something more ICSish with as much functionality?
Of course I (and others I'm sure) would love to hear anything you have to offer about speed, interface, quality, bugs, workarounds, etc... I have tried to piece it together from the various ROM threads, but first hand comparisons between the ROMS don't seem to be there.
If there's another compare and contrast thread I apologize, but I did in fact search for "Pros and Cons", and "Rom Differences", and "ICS Comparison", but didn't come up with anything Skyrocket except GB stuff.
Thanks in advance for any comparisons you folks have to offer up.
Jamie

I would also like to have a short list of pros and cons for each
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1st attempt
Well there were no takers to post their experiences, so I figured I'd go ahead and start logging my own attempts...
Tried Silver's ROM collectiveics.zip first because it looked to be the easiest and least risky but no joy for me.
I backed everything up and flashed as per the instructions and got a boot loop.
Used recovery to wipe but still no success.
Restored my original stock Rogers GB ROM.
Then tried again with his themed version (collectiveics3.zip) but had exactly the same experience but this time also tried flashing ics kernal when the boot loop happened... no change.
Restored again.
I reported it in the appropriate thread and see that a few others have the same issue... Silver asked for ROM, and CWM version to try and isolate a common issue. I see others having the problem have also responded.
I was using CWM version 5.0.2.7 and from what I can see, so were others... I flashed a different CWM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472954 ) this morning and will try flashing Silver again after work. If it still doesn't work, I will move on to a different ROM and report the experience back here again. (I WILL tell you if it worked too of course)
Jamie

I have tried several of the ICS roms thus far, and the only one that I have had zero problems with has been the MHX Superlite 4.2. I really liked the look of the Nexusmod ICS rom, and the trebuchet launcher included, but it was a bit buggy and I could never get fix permissions to run, either. I have noticed that every time I flash a rom now, it takes a bit longer than the time before for the phone to settle after the initial boot.

my understanding is thus.
(there is no harm flashing nandroids back forth)
so long got nandroid no problem from there..
Best gb rom. QuickWiz never updated.
2nd best gb rom silver (for looks alone lol)
Going try mx gb rom next
WHEN ics roms are considered my understanding is this. There not up to par for a daily driver yet. Sure they work but your going to have a problem with something. Now I never tried one but off of what others say your going to have issues with at least one part of it so I say why bother? Wait a bit longer for them to stabalize. Im going try gb mx rom think going be the one I want.
Sucks though I love the theme on silver.... guess could stick to it. Im ocd about roms I want them perfect

I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.

whatlobster said:
I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.
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I've held off so far on ICS but i think I'll get my feet wet this weekend. Strange you recommend darkside wipe. I'm certain Silver said not to darkside wipe for his ICS rom. There does seem to be a disconnect between some of the instructions and results people are having thus . I guess this is to be expected at this point.

I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I have flashed the following three ics roms on my rogers i727r and here were my results (They may vary and be different from yours this is just MY experience)
1. Nexus ICS Beta 3
Pros:
-Beautiful themeing done by M0D
-Very stable and dependable as dd
Cons:
-Battery Life was not so great for me
2. SuperLite 4.2
Pros:
-Stable and reliable
-Strong ROM support by mhx
-Great battery life
Cons:
-Not AOSP feelish like other roms (you can always flash a theme and be happy though )
3. SensatioN
Pros:
-Fast!
-Strong dev and theme support by the pair
-Quick response to questions and concerns
Cons:
-I am not much for the theme right now (waiting for wail01x to drop his next beta)
-Full of bloat off the start takes some heavy removal (my opinion)
Thats it for me so far will report later after i feed the addiction of ORD

can you flash any theme to any rom
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Try using cwm touch for flashing.
I'm on nexus ics and it looks great. No real major bugs so I'm using it as a daily driver. I can't comment on battery life yet but I will once I cycle a few times. Doesn't seem as snappy as gb roms though.
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bacheezy said:
I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I also do this religiously and have had great luck with it. However, it never fixed the nexus ICS install for me, and I tried flashing it several times on a couple of download tries with issues.
I've upgraded to MHX 4.3 today, and it seems to be great as a daily driver. It's smooth, fast, and tiny. Apex launcher is nice, too.

Update
Flashed the latest Odin version of CWM, and as I type, I've got a full backup going for archive to my PC so I can try the MHX Superlite 4.5 ('cause it's a full wipe flash)
I will report back the results in a bit but had to do something while I wait for the backup...
IF it works OK my next step will be the UCLC5 modem... Wish me luck ;-)
Jamie
Well... So far so good. Flash went well and in the process of restoring apps... Liked Silver's theme but MHX seems more stable so far... Will edit again when the apps are working...
Arrrgh
UCALC5 modem seems to have increased my reception at the cost of useability... LONG pauses between every screen change... going to flash is again and if it doesn't settle in I'll either go back to 4 or erstore GB again... have to drive a thousand km tomorrow and can't have an "iffy" phone.

mx gb super light amazing.
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Working ICS
I could not make things work with the UCALC5 modem. It just wouldn't play nice with any ROM I flashed... Superlight was working but the modem killed it... reflashed the UCALC4 modem and then flashed the collective ROM and I have a working ICS phone Had to get a TiBu update to get my apps back because the one in the ROM is broken but now my apps are restored and all is right with the world (but I need to get used to Apex I think... and set it all up... Anxiously awaiting his updated one.
Aargh... Should have installed most of the apps from the market... acore keeps FCing on me again now. I suspect it's got something to do with the data restore... Thought I was careful about what I let it restore but I must have let something slip through that it doesn't like... sure is tough to sign on to the market to try and update Apex when your keyboard keeps dissapearing before you have your gmail password typed. :-(

most roms doesnt have battery roms. and the ones that do, (ICS), have the shutdown/reboot issue.

I've tried all of the different ICS roms available to us as of today. I'm really beginning to think that even following install directions to the letter will still give varied results for different people. Probably many small factors that cause this to happen. I've personally had many issues with lag and freezing of user and system apps, even after multiple installs with multiple wipes on each ROM. The only ROM so far that has been the most problem free is the Superlite ROM in my experience. I'm two days on it now and not had even one single bit of lag and zero freezing. I can't say any of the other ICS roms have had the same solid results as this.
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Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point

Exodus743 said:
Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point
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[Q] Most stable Gingerbread ROM

Hi i was wondering what the most stable gingerbread rom is right now for the G2x? I was using eagleblood's ics rom but I want to be able to use camera, browser and internal storage for music (I dont have an external sd card right now). but yeah tahts my question. I heard the one from lg/tmobile isnt the best

Stock or custom? Cm7 I feel is the best, but some might disagree.
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My wife has EaglesBlood GB on her phone, and she says it's really stable for her. On occasion, it freezes up on AC power, but other than that, it works really well.
And, like mt3g said, CM7 also works really well. Although others complain that it's buggy for them, but that's just the nature of these phones: what works for one phone, doesn't work well for another. Trial and error is your strange bedfellow.

mt3g said:
Stock or custom? Cm7 I feel is the best, but some might disagree.
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i used stock but that seemed to drain my battery like no other, and sometimes apps froze. I would rather go custom if tehre is a good one
dorkknight said:
My wife has EaglesBlood GB on her phone, and she says it's really stable for her. On occasion, it freezes up on AC power, but other than that, it works really well.
And, like mt3g said, CM7 also works really well. Although others complain that it's buggy for them, but that's just the nature of these phones: what works for one phone, doesn't work well for another. Trial and error is your strange bedfellow.
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EaglesBlood ICS has only restarted once over my 4 day usage and that was cause i was doing some stupid stuff with the settings. I just want something that doesnt drain my battery as much as stock and fixed glitches and everything... the notification sliding in ICS i heard that some GB roms have it.. which do? I was looking at the android developement section and tehre are like 10 idk what to choose lol

I always choose a basic nightly the latest only work with 21y mar 2012 baseband I think been out of it for a while.
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mt3g said:
I always choose a basic nightly the latest only work with 21y mar 2012 baseband I think been out of it for a while.
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alright ill try nightly out, no other custom GB rom works with 21y?

Ya but you have to use the new baseband zip file owain created. Its in the op oh his thread.
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If you want something easy to customize, I recommend Hellfire Phoenix over EaglesBlood because its based on the newest CM7 source, which includes a lot of fixes and more tweaks.
Now if you want a stock look (along with that better stock battery life), I recommend Bionix Reloaded v1.4.1 because its heavily tweaked for better battery life, and gives you all the stock Tmo apps like Wifi Calling, DLNA Sharing, etc.
The kernel is important too, and I always used Faux's kernel without any problems. In fact, using Faux helped solve some, as people running other kernels weren't able to play games such as Draw Something.
Sent from someone's Galaxy Nexus running AOKP + Franco

I like CM7, but have been running Hell Fire Phoenix for a LONG time, and love it.

Specific reqs
My wife is a medical professional and is sometimes "on call". I bought our phones a year ago, and didn't switch from stock 2.2.2, because no ROM/kernel (if I'm using those terms correctly) seem to be able to fix the Black Screen Of Death. So now I wonder the same - which ROM and or kernel is the most stable? She loves the stock LG camera, doesn't use BT nor WiFi calling - she NEEDS STABILITY!!! I know I can search thru the dev forum, but there are many posts, some by zealots. I'm looking for opinions from people who have tried many. It could be that the new LG V21Y will be good for her....
She doesn't need to customize - she just wants a phone that is working every time she pulls it out of her purse.

I vote for LG's stock 2.3.4 with new baseband.
My wife has not rebooted her G2x since updating to the new V21y/2.3.4. It's been at least a month for her w/o ANY complaints. She used to ***** at least daily about needing to pull the battery or reboot. Call quality is much improved, but what really impresses me is the speed and accuracy of the GPS now (not sure how much that matters for your wife). Battery seems to be at least as good as when I run the latest CM Nightly with Morfic's Trinity ELP kernel underclocked.
I too keep a nandroid backup of the new stock rom on my G2x. I find it the most stable of anything I've tried. Recently I've been on Hellfire Phoenix w/ either Morfic's ELP or Faux's 50b6 kernel. I've also been through all the recent Cyanogenmod releases lately.
Benefits of the stock ROM...
-No black screens of death
-Great battery life
-Clear in-call sound
-Quick GPS locks
-Minimal force closes
Compared to CM-based ROM's I mostly miss the brightness controlled by sliding across the status bar, the status bar toggles, the CM themes, and the "render effect" that allows me to pick the hue of the screen. I like to run the red one (least bright) when I just can't stop using the phone at night.
I am beginning to play with the rooted 2.3.4 (Thanks kwes1020) in hopes of regaining some of that custom functionality that I miss from the CM-based builds...

Appreciative lurker, first time poster
This thread looks like the best one to get my questions answered. TIA.
Brand new G2X (got the $30 T-mobile Walmart plan), running 2.3.4 on the March 2012 BB, kernel 2.6.32.9 (if that matters)
Basically I'm looking for something stable, though I am interested in customization.
Features that are important to me:
Battery Life, speed, GPS, WiFi Calling, Bluetooth streaming (but dont care about Bluetooth calling), fast camera
Based on all my reading in these forums, I think I should be looking for a GingerBread ROM that allows some neat customization. CM7 7.2 Stable seems to be the most recommended right now. Is that right?
Also, though I have a couple years experience with Android, this will be the first time I root a phone and install a custom ROM. I was planning to use the video tutorials at theunlockr.com to start the process. Having watched all those, it looks like there are 3 steps:
1. Root: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2x/
2. Flash Custom Recovery Image: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-image-on-the-t-mobile-g2x/
3. Load Custom ROM: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2x/
However, I saw in another thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761772&page=2 ) that "There is no need to root your stock Rom if you are using NVFlash to flash CWM."
So, is this a newer method or the same thing that unlockr.com is instructing me to do?
I know that's alot, but thanks for any advice...

Smitty20 said:
Appreciative lurker, first time poster
This thread looks like the best one to get my questions answered. TIA.
Brand new G2X (got the $30 T-mobile Walmart plan), running 2.3.4 on the March 2012 BB, kernel 2.6.32.9 (if that matters)
Basically I'm looking for something stable, though I am interested in customization.
Features that are important to me:
Battery Life, speed, GPS, WiFi Calling, Bluetooth streaming (but dont care about Bluetooth calling), fast camera
Based on all my reading in these forums, I think I should be looking for a GingerBread ROM that allows some neat customization. CM7 7.2 Stable seems to be the most recommended right now. Is that right?
Also, though I have a couple years experience with Android, this will be the first time I root a phone and install a custom ROM. I was planning to use the video tutorials at theunlockr.com to start the process. Having watched all those, it looks like there are 3 steps:
1. Root: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2x/
2. Flash Custom Recovery Image: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-image-on-the-t-mobile-g2x/
3. Load Custom ROM: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2x/
However, I saw in another thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761772&page=2 ) that "There is no need to root your stock Rom if you are using NVFlash to flash CWM."
So, is this a newer method or the same thing that unlockr.com is instructing me to do?
I know that's alot, but thanks for any advice...
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Well, I rooted my phone for the first time about 3 months ago and I used the unlockr method. As long as you follow step by step instructions everything should go smoothly, I screwed it up and had to reload stock rom, but that just made me understand the process better.
As for which ROM to get, I tried various ones Eaglesblood, Hellfire both ICS and GB and I found that the one I liked the best was Hellfire CM7.2 supertweaked. I couldn't do ICS because I actually want to watch videos on my phone and it was too laggy. However, Hellfire ran smoothly and the battery life is amazing compared to stock. I have had this phone on mostly standby for a whole day and it was still on 60% battery life. There are no problems with wifi and camera is good. I am not sure about bluetooth since i don't use it, but the news is that there will soon be fixes to any bluetooth issues.
An extra piece of advice, if you are going to root your phone and I recommend you get the Auto Memory Manager and FasterGPS app. The former is better than app killer, which are bad for your device and the second will immensely increase GPS lock on time.

unknownz_1 said:
Well, I rooted my phone for the first time about 3 months ago and I used the unlockr method. As long as you follow step by step instructions everything should go smoothly, I screwed it up and had to reload stock rom, but that just made me understand the process better.
As for which ROM to get, I tried various ones Eaglesblood, Hellfire both ICS and GB and I found that the one I liked the best was Hellfire CM7.2 supertweaked. I couldn't do ICS because I actually want to watch videos on my phone and it was too laggy. However, Hellfire ran smoothly and the battery life is amazing compared to stock. I have had this phone on mostly standby for a whole day and it was still on 60% battery life. There are no problems with wifi and camera is good. I am not sure about bluetooth since i don't use it, but the news is that there will soon be fixes to any bluetooth issues.
An extra piece of advice, if you are going to root your phone and I recommend you get the Auto Memory Manager and FasterGPS app. The former is better than app killer, which are bad for your device and the second will immensely increase GPS lock on time.
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Thanks for the quick response. So, did you do the 3 videos in that order? That is my plan. And I will look for the Hellfire ROM, thanks.

[Q] Stable ICS Rom Links please!

Hello, I finally got my wife to agree to let me root and put a custom rom on her infuse, currently running froyo. I just rooted it last night and was looking around for some stable ICS roms. I found lots of discussions about which roms were best but had a somewhat more difficult time finding the links to said roms. And stability is a must here as she knows absolutely nothing about messing around with phones. Also GPS and Bluetooth are absolute musts as well. She finally agreed to let me do this after seeing galaxy s2 running CM9. So I was kinda leaning towards a cm9 rom, a lot of the ones I saw though listed Bluetooth problems so I was wondering whose cm9 would be best for what I'm looking for here. That being said I am open to all stable ICS roms, not just tunnel visioned on cm9. So, if you all give me some good stable ICS rom, and their links, I would be very grateful. Thanks!

Cm9: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601844
Uni-yuma-porn: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643886
RemICS-UX: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705503
Have a look at these. They should have everything you are looking for.
Sent from my sweet & buttery Infuse

Just my 2 cents worth.......been d/l ROMs since GB........the JB ROMs that are out now are more stable than ICS.
Edit: biggest problem is, most of the Devs have moved on to JB.

ICS and jb both have camera recording problems... so jwep that in mind, jb has a slow but working GPS
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mg2195 said:
ICS and jb both have camera recording problems... so jwep that in mind, jb has a slow but working GPS
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In addition to the above comments. I would also caution you about future wife beatings and crazy ass tandrums if your giving a rooted phone to her. I know your asking about ICS, and some are suggesting Jellybean, however the best thing you can do for her is to put a rooted Gingerbread ROM like the following and just yank out whatever junk you don't want and keep it running smoother then stock!:
- Infused 2.2.3 (Extremely stable ROM that i used as my daily driver without incident for almost a year! Disadvantage is that it is no longer being developed. But really, it doesn't need anything else done to it.. absolutely everything just works!)
- Aeon (This is one of the newer Gingerbread ROM's that is still being updated and mantained. Also a very stable ROM where everything just works. The downside in my opinion is the Themeinig that is build into the ROM. Great for most, but not for everyone.)
Both of the above are excellent choices for a wife! And they are both built off of stock firmware so everything works.
Believe me, i would normally never reccomend someone go back to Gingerbread, but as she is coming from Froyo she will notice a big improvement. Also, from one man to the next. I can tell you, my bigest mistake was replacing my wifes crack berry with my older rooted X10. It was great for me, but for her she just wants things to work. The second something doesn't work, she turns into the hulk! I absolutely love to tinker and i'm never done messing with my phone, but don't assume your wife will appreciate the challenges as much as you would! I ended up just putting it back to bone stock and gave it to her with the understanding that she was not to complain to me anymore! LOL
Oh one last thing.. the saying really is true.. "A happy Wife is a happy Life!" LOL

Vibrant Similarities and Best ROM for first flash on S3 and

I had the Vibrant and flashed all kinds I'd ROMs with it. Moved to the iPhone 4s and then traded that for my new S3. It was a good choice. So now I'm planning to get started flashing on this phone.
Wanted to know what is the same and what is different from the Vibrant from previous Vibrant users.
What's the best place to start flashing? I'm looking for stability and speed. Preferably more stability than stock cause stock is a little buggy honestly.
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GoodVibrant-ions said:
I had the Vibrant and flashed all kinds I'd ROMs with it. Moved to the iPhone 4s and then traded that for my new S3. It was a good choice. So now I'm planning to get started flashing on this phone.
Wanted to know what is the same and what is different from the Vibrant from previous Vibrant users.
What's the best place to start flashing? I'm looking for stability and speed. Preferably more stability than stock cause stock is a little buggy honestly.
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Please elaborate on what is buggy about stock?

My question was more about everything else I posted besides that statement but to answer the question, I am getting force closes on some apps and occasionally the home screen locks up. That's what I meant by buggy.
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there's a link in my signature that should help you id post it but im on my ipad using tapatalk right now.

In before the lock
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In after the ****
Honestly, the post was more about the Vibrant than anything. I was hoping to see some of the same people and get their experiences on ROMs compared to what we had on the Vibrant.
Like on the Vibrant it went from Android 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 and you constantly had to be aware of what you were flashing. It doesn't seem that way (yet) with the S3 from what I've been reading. Is that the case? At this point everything is compatible and we're able to flash away for the most part?
And I was hoping someone could tell me what's stable and smooth right now. Stock has been touch and go for my device and I haven't done anything to it. I'm looking for a fast non-overclocked kernel matched with a stable daily driver ROM. Any help is appreciated, dickhead comments aren't. This place has turned all elitist. This is the General forums....thought I could get away with a few simple questions with answers based on experiences, after having read through all these threads.
Speaking of which NeverendingXin, I read a lot of that thread yesterday but it seemed to give descriptions of what AOSP vs AOKP vs CM10 vs MIUI. Which I learned a lot from and I appreciate. But I was looking for more advice on specific ROMs. Anyone that could say "This ROM with this kernel has worked for me and I like it's speed" or whatever would do.

You want to find out what's stable and smooth?
Man up and make a backup of your current rom and flash away trying different roms. You'll likely end up getting different responses from different people and it isn't likely you'll have their same experience. Just find out for yourself. The guide the person above directed to you to was made to prevent threads asking what rom is stable or to use.
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GoodVibrant-ions said:
In after the ****
Honestly, the post was more about the Vibrant than anything. I was hoping to see some of the same people and get their experiences on ROMs compared to what we had on the Vibrant.
Like on the Vibrant it went from Android 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 and you constantly had to be aware of what you were flashing. It doesn't seem that way (yet) with the S3 from what I've been reading. Is that the case? At this point everything is compatible and we're able to flash away for the most part?
And I was hoping someone could tell me what's stable and smooth right now. Stock has been touch and go for my device and I haven't done anything to it. I'm looking for a fast non-overclocked kernel matched with a stable daily driver ROM. Any help is appreciated, dickhead comments aren't. This place has turned all elitist. This is the General forums....thought I could get away with a few simple questions with answers based on experiences, after having read through all these threads.
Speaking of which NeverendingXin, I read a lot of that thread yesterday but it seemed to give descriptions of what AOSP vs AOKP vs CM10 vs MIUI. Which I learned a lot from and I appreciate. But I was looking for more advice on specific ROMs. Anyone that could say "This ROM with this kernel has worked for me and I like it's speed" or whatever would do.
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Well in that sense the best information I can give you is that for a touch wiz ics Rom I'd use synergy, I used that for a long time and it was always super stable and smooth for me. If your looking for aosp then I'd use either liquid smooth or slim bean I'm more familiar with liquid and it's really great, but I'm trying out slim bean and it's so far been good as well. I hope this helps

GoodVibrant-ions said:
In after the ****
Honestly, the post was more about the Vibrant than anything. I was hoping to see some of the same people and get their experiences on ROMs compared to what we had on the Vibrant.
Like on the Vibrant it went from Android 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 and you constantly had to be aware of what you were flashing. It doesn't seem that way (yet) with the S3 from what I've been reading. Is that the case? At this point everything is compatible and we're able to flash away for the most part?
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I'm from the Fascinate but I've also worked on the Vibrant.
* You don't have to worry about bml/mtd here. Which means you can flash basically everything without having to odin.
* You do have to worry about the locked bootloader. CASUAL can unlock it. Droidstyle has a sticky thread here on xda to help you with this and many other processes.
* There are excellent stock and AOSP-based ROMS. AOSP-based ROMS aren't quite 100% (but close) on RIL issues though.
*On verizon, radios are typically flashed separately and only in certain circumstances (odin package) included with ROMS.
* You DO have to worry about the IMEI issue. There are numerous threads about backing up this information and a Sticky thread with a tool for recovering it.
* If you are looking for a custom kernel check out Leankernel which is linked to in the signature of the poster above me. note that it's an AOSP kernel. Find the touchwiz version in the same forum.

Something else to bote about unlocking the bootloader, if you are going to use EZ Unlock from the market DON'T!!!! Go to root wiki and download version 1.2. For some reason 1.3 & 1.4 are wonky. The older versions are on the same thread as 1.4.
My vote for a ROM is Paranoid Android, I had some bug issues on Liquid Smooth but on PA I have had none thus far. I would reccomend flashing Paranoid Android version 2.5 instead of 2.51, there seems to be an issue for some users with the latest commits in 2.51 from what I read earlier today.
I'm sure you know how to back up you IMEI but just in case use the terminal method and the synergy flash method.
Just trying to cover most bases, I didn't know what you knew and didn't know.
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GoodVibrant-ions said:
My question was more about everything else I posted besides that statement but to answer the question, I am getting force closes on some apps and occasionally the home screen locks up. That's what I meant by buggy.
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The reason I asked is because stock on the S3 is as stable as you are going to get. The most stable custom Roms are going to be the ones based of stock TW and you can get them with some added tweaks. They are no more stable then stock as stock is stable as a *****. If you are getting force closes and lockups there is probably an issue with what you have installed.
Any AOSP rom will still have bugs and will be the least stable out of all the options. No matter how many people say Liquid or AOKP or CM10 or PA or MIUI is running great, they run no where near as stable and perfect as any TW rom.
If you want stability, go with a TW rom. read the different threads, mostly the last couple of pages of each which are usually about the latest release and you will know what is good and what is not.
This is what I am running and it does not get any more stable then this but then again stock was stable as ***** as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904329

Thanks guys.... this is exactly what I was looking for. As far as backing up the IMEI, I've never had to do that. Not on the Vibrant or My HTC View....so I have some reading to do there. Any tips or links to threads on that would be appreciated.
And I did have to unlock the bootloader on the View, but it's not a process I know a lot about.... so reading to do there as well.
Thanks for the tips guys. Looks like I'm going back to do some more studying.
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A very very good post explaining how to flash recoveries, roms, and just about anything else you ever would need to know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
IMEI Backup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255
EZ-Unlock for you bootloader, download version 1.2 it is towards the bottom of the first post:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32456-app-920-ez-unlock-14-easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader/
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Perfect. Thanks man. I'd seen the first two threads but not the ezunlocker thread. Should be all I need to figure out how to get started and which ROM to try.
Thanks for the help guys
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PaulG1488 said:
You want to find out what's stable and smooth?
Man up and make a backup of your current rom and flash away trying different roms. You'll likely end up getting different responses from different people and it isn't likely you'll have their same experience. Just find out for yourself. The guide the person above directed to you to was made to prevent threads asking what rom is stable or to use.
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I did it this way and spend 2 weeks of hell. Don't recommend this, PLEASE.
Here's my own thoughts, as reliable as the butt dyno installed in my TSX:
CM10: depending on the build it was OK to "omg, I just rebooted why is this running so slow?" I tried this rom twice and gave up. I had installed a nightly from Friday which is what had serious issues. I'd reboot and within 15 minutes everything would be crawling.
ParanoidAndroid: I might accept this if I could opt to have a phone styled settings app. I see no way to get that, and I don't enjoy my settings app on my S3 using a tablet layout. Can this be changed?
AOKP: Wifi didn't work without a kernel, battery life ranged from amazing to terrible (no data on why, I didn't look at my wakelocks) and bluetooth didn't function right - it didn't auto connect to my car.
MIUI: Verdict is out, first flashed it yesterday. First thoughts are that it feels slightly slow, but that might be because I put the governor into dynamic mode. Battery life is looking about on par with paranoid
Liquidsmooth: didn't see any reason to use this over PA or CM, didn't feel much smoother to me (forgetting the nightly build I flashed of CM10, because that was just awful.)
shangrila500 said:
Something else to bote about unlocking the bootloader, if you are going to use EZ Unlock from the market DON'T!!!! Go to root wiki and download version 1.2. For some reason 1.3 & 1.4 are wonky. The older versions are on the same thread as 1.4.
My vote for a ROM is Paranoid Android, I had some bug issues on Liquid Smooth but on PA I have had none thus far. I would reccomend flashing Paranoid Android version 2.5 instead of 2.51, there seems to be an issue for some users with the latest commits in 2.51 from what I read earlier today.
I'm sure you know how to back up you IMEI but just in case use the terminal method and the synergy flash method.
Just trying to cover most bases, I didn't know what you knew and didn't know.
Sent by one of my many Anthromorphic Personifications
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The one on the marketplace worked fine for me? It always says "unknown" but it unlocks. What does LiquidSmooth change from CM10? They don't seem to have many builds.
Can the ParanoidAndroid settings app be made to have a phone layout for settings instead of the double paned layout? If yes, I might give Paranoid a second try.

rampantandroid said:
I did it this way and spend 2 weeks of hell. Don't recommend this, PLEASE.
Here's my own thoughts, as reliable as the butt dyno installed in my TSX:
CM10: depending on the build it was OK to "omg, I just rebooted why is this running so slow?" I tried this rom twice and gave up. I had installed a nightly from Friday which is what had serious issues. I'd reboot and within 15 minutes everything would be crawling.
ParanoidAndroid: I might accept this if I could opt to have a phone styled settings app. I see no way to get that, and I don't enjoy my settings app on my S3 using a tablet layout. Can this be changed?
AOKP: Wifi didn't work without a kernel, battery life ranged from amazing to terrible (no data on why, I didn't look at my wakelocks) and bluetooth didn't function right - it didn't auto connect to my car.
MIUI: Verdict is out, first flashed it yesterday. First thoughts are that it feels slightly slow, but that might be because I put the governor into dynamic mode. Battery life is looking about on par with paranoid
Liquidsmooth: didn't see any reason to use this over PA or CM, didn't feel much smoother to me (forgetting the nightly build I flashed of CM10, because that was just awful.)
The one on the marketplace worked fine for me? It always says "unknown" but it unlocks. What does LiquidSmooth change from CM10? They don't seem to have many builds.
Can the ParanoidAndroid settings app be made to have a phone layout for settings instead of the double paned layout? If yes, I might give Paranoid a second try.
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Well the one in the marketplace may work fine for you but everyone else who has tried version 1.4 has posted so many messages because it didn't truly unlock their phone and gave them a soft brick. The reason it may work for you is because the dev finally fixed it. I just know that there have been numerous threads of people getting soft bricks from version 1.4.
As for Liquid, it is their spin off of CM10. There are a few notable differences but I honestly don't know how to describe them properly, you would just have to flash it and mess with it yourself.
I agree completely about CM10 being buggy as hell, I personally don't care for it but without it we wouldn't have half of the roms we do.
The upside to Liquid, PA, and some of the other offshoots is that the devs over them are busting their ass to get all the kinks worked out, and from my testing they are better than CM10 bug wise. Everyone's phone is different though and something that works for me will not work for someone else. For instance I can successfully over clock my phone to 2.1Ghz where a lot of people can go above 1.7 or 1.9 without losing stability.
As for you question about PA, I thought there was a setting to get rid of the double menu, but I just took a quick look and couldn't find it. I very well may have overlooked it though, as I said it was just a quick look. You could try googling it or asking in the PA thread and seeing if anyone can point you in the right direction.
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shangrila500 said:
Well the one in the marketplace may work fine for you but everyone else who has tried version 1.4 has posted so many messages because it didn't truly unlock their phone and gave them a soft brick. The reason it may work for you is because the dev finally fixed it. I just know that there have been numerous threads of people getting soft bricks from version 1.4.
As for Liquid, it is their spin off of CM10. There are a few notable differences but I honestly don't know how to describe them properly, you would just have to flash it and mess with it yourself.
I agree completely about CM10 being buggy as hell, I personally don't care for it but without it we wouldn't have half of the roms we do.
The upside to Liquid, PA, and some of the other offshoots is that the devs over them are busting their ass to get all the kinks worked out, and from my testing they are better than CM10 bug wise. Everyone's phone is different though and something that works for me will not work for someone else. For instance I can successfully over clock my phone to 2.1Ghz where a lot of people can go above 1.7 or 1.9 without losing stability.
As for you question about PA, I thought there was a setting to get rid of the double menu, but I just took a quick look and couldn't find it. I very well may have overlooked it though, as I said it was just a quick look. You could try googling it or asking in the PA thread and seeing if anyone can point you in the right direction.
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Check the PA thread for the answer - go into PA settings, go to the app settings, find the settings app in there and hit reset. My guess is that it is a bug with the current version of the ROM.

GoodVibrant-ions said:
Perfect. Thanks man. I'd seen the first two threads but not the ezunlocker thread. Should be all I need to figure out how to get started and which ROM to try.
Thanks for the help guys
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shangrila500 said:
Well the one in the marketplace may work fine for you but everyone else who has tried version 1.4 has posted so many messages because it didn't truly unlock their phone and gave them a soft brick. The reason it may work for you is because the dev finally fixed it. I just know that there have been numerous threads of people getting soft bricks from version 1.4.
As for Liquid, it is their spin off of CM10. There are a few notable differences but I honestly don't know how to describe them properly, you would just have to flash it and mess with it yourself.
I agree completely about CM10 being buggy as hell, I personally don't care for it but without it we wouldn't have half of the roms we do.
The upside to Liquid, PA, and some of the other offshoots is that the devs over them are busting their ass to get all the kinks worked out, and from my testing they are better than CM10 bug wise. Everyone's phone is different though and something that works for me will not work for someone else. For instance I can successfully over clock my phone to 2.1Ghz where a lot of people can go above 1.7 or 1.9 without losing stability.
As for you question about PA, I thought there was a setting to get rid of the double menu, but I just took a quick look and couldn't find it. I very well may have overlooked it though, as I said it was just a quick look. You could try googling it or asking in the PA thread and seeing if anyone can point you in the right direction.
Sent by one of my many Anthromorphic Personifications
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rampantandroid said:
I did it this way and spend 2 weeks of hell. Don't recommend this, PLEASE.
Here's my own thoughts, as reliable as the butt dyno installed in my TSX:
CM10: depending on the build it was OK to "omg, I just rebooted why is this running so slow?" I tried this rom twice and gave up. I had installed a nightly from Friday which is what had serious issues. I'd reboot and within 15 minutes everything would be crawling.
ParanoidAndroid: I might accept this if I could opt to have a phone styled settings app. I see no way to get that, and I don't enjoy my settings app on my S3 using a tablet layout. Can this be changed?
AOKP: Wifi didn't work without a kernel, battery life ranged from amazing to terrible (no data on why, I didn't look at my wakelocks) and bluetooth didn't function right - it didn't auto connect to my car.
MIUI: Verdict is out, first flashed it yesterday. First thoughts are that it feels slightly slow, but that might be because I put the governor into dynamic mode. Battery life is looking about on par with paranoid
Liquidsmooth: didn't see any reason to use this over PA or CM, didn't feel much smoother to me (forgetting the nightly build I flashed of CM10, because that was just awful.)
The one on the marketplace worked fine for me? It always says "unknown" but it unlocks. What does LiquidSmooth change from CM10? They don't seem to have many builds.
Can the ParanoidAndroid settings app be made to have a phone layout for settings instead of the double paned layout? If yes, I might give Paranoid a second try.
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So what ROM did you end up using? Any that you'd recommend?

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JB Rom - Stability

My friend has been running CM7 for what seems like forever. The phone stopped charging and was boot looping. I was able to get it into recovery and fixed. However, I don't know what he did over the last week to mess it up. It seemed like the ROM was glitchy for a few weeks now.
Anyway, I don't use an infuse, I have an atrix. Looking through all the JB roms, it looks like many are stable. I will be leaving for the week in the morning, and I would like to reset and flash the infuse with JB. Could anyone suggest a JB rom that I can flash and feel comfortable leaving him with that is stable. I see avatar has OTA updates and is stable, but once I flash the phone, that's it. It's a rom I would have to leave him with. He wants no more fussing.
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Is there an ICS or Gingerbread suggested for stability? He's used to using Cyanogen, so I'd like to stick with some form of that, or JB.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Like I said, I'm on an Atrix, so the infuse I'm a noob on.

I've been running SlimBean for about the past month maybe longer. I've never experienced any random reboots or anything on it. The only problem that I've had (this will be a problem on all JellyBean roms) is that sometimes the pulldown notifications don't work. The quick fix is just to do a system UI restart, but it will still have to be done about 2 times a day. The battery life isn't great on JellyBean roms for infuse either, but it's worth it in my opinion because 4.2.2 is a much better user experience than gingerbread.

odinfire said:
My friend has been running CM7 for what seems like forever. The phone stopped charging and was boot looping. I was able to get it into recovery and fixed. However, I don't know what he did over the last week to mess it up. It seemed like the ROM was glitchy for a few weeks now.
Anyway, I don't use an infuse, I have an atrix. Looking through all the JB roms, it looks like many are stable. I will be leaving for the week in the morning, and I would like to reset and flash the infuse with JB. Could anyone suggest a JB rom that I can flash and feel comfortable leaving him with that is stable. I see avatar has OTA updates and is stable, but once I flash the phone, that's it. It's a rom I would have to leave him with. He wants no more fussing.
OR
Is there an ICS or Gingerbread suggested for stability? He's used to using Cyanogen, so I'd like to stick with some form of that, or JB.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Like I said, I'm on an Atrix, so the infuse I'm a noob on.
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On the latest BeanStalk I haven't even had the statusbar freeze,build before that was only glitch I noticed. If you want to ensure rock solid stability I would recomend this though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081

elbscorp said:
On the latest BeanStalk I haven't even had the statusbar freeze,build before that was only glitch I noticed. If you want to ensure rock solid stability I would recomend this though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081
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Now you know better than that. Thanks for the link and the suggestions.

never used beanstalk, but I'll throw my 2 cents in for slimbean. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005016