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Hey Guys!!
I was wondering.....is there any app for android which would allow us to use some space in our phone or external memory as RAM like Eboostr on Windows???

Hello,
you can use a taskmanager, some can optimize your RAM periodically!

sorry for the late reply but i just wanted to know of an app for using a part of sd card as ram.........not because i'm short of it............but to increase it

ahmadns said:
sorry for the late reply but i just wanted to know of an app for using a part of sd card as ram.........not because i'm short of it............but to increase it
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app moving to sd？check market

Sumthing so I can run .APK files frm 4shared

I find it easier to just rig upto comp n move them that way or iv also use astro file.i use to b able to make app2sd work "once" n nvr again n now i cant do it for somr reason i dint update it or owt !!!!!!

App2SD is very good
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ahmadns said:
sorry for the late reply but i just wanted to know of an app for using a part of sd card as ram.........not because i'm short of it............but to increase it
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I know what u mean it. But then,no. Bcoz as far as i known,android is based on memory resource. Thus,not use much 2 use ram. And the application are automatically being killed when there are less ram. Thus improving speed.
Just to decrease ram used,i think by using cyanogen or any custom rom that less ram used.
As u said about the sd card as ram. I think that windows 7 use the pendrive or etc as a cache/memory swap. To increase speed.
Correct me if im wrong.
Sent from my HTC Vision with Doubleshot Rom

rexstor said:
I know what u mean it. But then,no. Bcoz as far as i known,android is based on memory resource. Thus,not use much 2 use ram. And the application are automatically being killed when there are less ram. Thus improving speed.
Just to decrease ram used,i think by using cyanogen or any custom rom that less ram used.
As u said about the sd card as ram. I think that windows 7 use the pendrive or etc as a cache/memory swap. To increase speed.
Correct me if im wrong.
Sent from my HTC Vision with Doubleshot Rom
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Well you see I nearly was able to run farmville on my wildfire s but in the end a prompt came saying "insufficient memory "
this was the only reason for me to ask such an app

use app2sd
or youe divce is 2.2 or abore

omaboy said:
Hello,
you can use a taskmanager, some can optimize your RAM periodically!
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Google about android memory management.
Apps interfering with the systems own management do more harm than good.
@OP
Android already uses swap if the RAM is full.
But you can probably increase the swap partition.
Google or search the forum for "android increase swap" or something like that.
This will require root.

[Q] RAM

Is there a way to use memory in ur sdcard as ram for ur phone, so i can increase the performance. i think u can, so if u now how to can u post a link?
And i am using MikRunny rom

B RAD G 296 said:
Is there a way to use memory in ur sdcard as ram for ur phone, so i can increase the performance. i think u can, so if u now how to can u post a link?
And i am using MikRunny rom
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IIRC, there is a mod to use either a partition or a file on your MicroSD card for SWAP space... which is basically where programs that normally reside in ram would go when not in use... think its one by sparksco...
however, I dont see hardly any kernels with it built in these days... its a GOD SEND on my HD2 and Hero... Id love to use SWAP partition on all my devices...
hope someone more knowledgeable about whats out will reply

First this is the wrong thread for questions and answers.
And yes we have a few kernals that allow swap. But the rom as well needs to have that available from what I recall. Think cm uses 128 max though. I know there is a miui rom that uses swap here too. Does come in handy. You will need to reformat your sd card for swap if your going to use it. There is also ext3 and 4 and that acts like available storage space for your phone. I would only use 1-1.5 gb for that though. Some of these big games only want to go on your sd card.
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One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.

VICODAN said:
One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.
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what that makes no sense how does it slow down

B RAD G 296 said:
what that makes no sense how does it slow down
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I was using swap for quite some time and it seemed to work really well for awhile and then started to cause my phone a lot of lock-ups after awhile. I think it was just eating up my sdcard too much. And it has been proven that swap wears on your sdcard quite a bit. I don't think it's worth it. There's a script made by Darkky that patches memory leaks in roms that seems to work good. I include these in a lot of roms and my memory always stays above 80mb.

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VICODAN said:
One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.
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What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
B RAD G 296 said:
what that makes no sense how does it slow down
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It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
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I was using swap for quite some time and it seemed to work really well for awhile and then started to cause my phone a lot of lock-ups after awhile. I think it was just eating up my sdcard too much. And it has been proven that swap wears on your sdcard quite a bit. I don't think it's worth it. There's a script made by Darkky that patches memory leaks in roms that seems to work good. I include these in a lot of roms and my memory always stays above 80mb.
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yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...

There are apps like juwe11's ram app, rom toolbox has a memory settings, script manager in combination with v6 supercharger script (which I highly recommend, as it helps prevent sense reloads), auto killer memory, etc. Each phone has a "brain" of it's own. My phone likes v6 or auto killer memory, but other phones like juwe11's ramscript/app. Trial and error. Good luck, and post your results if you want to.
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Hammerfest said:
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What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...
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Really doesn't get explained any better than this.

Hammerfest said:
WARNING: LONG WINDED POST... read at your own risk...
What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...
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That is a good explaintion. But personally I don't want to be the guy that releases a rom with swap already in it and get the guilt of someone's sdcard breaking. As drob311 said there's apps and other ways of making it work and my rom/kernel does still support these other ways of using it.

sparksco said:
That is a good explaintion. But personally I don't want to be the guy that releases a rom with swap already in it and get the guilt of someone's sdcard breaking. As drob311 said there's apps and other ways of making it work and my rom/kernel does still support these other ways of using it.
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you do know that you can enable SWAP in a rom, but make it contained to SWAP PARTITION only? ergo if they made a SWAP partition on their MicroSD card... hence you have zero liability if said card breaks... you have to have SOME knowledge to repartition a MicroSD card properly for a SWAP partition
BTW, I fully support enabling it that way, it also leads the way to making the script for SWAP file vs partition easier because the ROM is ready for it, its just not enabled unless someone inserts the custom script OR has the proper partition for SWAP!

Hammerfest said:
you do know that you can enable SWAP in a rom, but make it contained to SWAP PARTITION only? ergo if they made a SWAP partition on their MicroSD card... hence you have zero liability if said card breaks... you have to have SOME knowledge to repartition a MicroSD card properly for a SWAP partition
BTW, I fully support enabling it that way, it also leads the way to making the script for SWAP file vs partition easier because the ROM is ready for it, its just not enabled unless someone inserts the custom script OR has the proper partition for SWAP!
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Yes I know. I already had a swap script for swap partition for cm7 but you need a custom cmparts.apk since cm decided to disable all swap on their roms. Plus I didn't really feel like repartitioning my sdcard once it started acting up. I'll probably just make a seperate add-on to flash over the roms for it if people want it.

sparksco said:
Yes I know. I already had a swap script for swap partition for cm7 but you need a custom cmparts.apk since cm decided to disable all swap on their roms. Plus I didn't really feel like repartitioning my sdcard once it started acting up. I'll probably just make a seperate add-on to flash over the roms for it if people want it.
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im cool with that
actually, if someone can get YES/NO in CWM like on my HD2 you can put it all in the rom and they can choose right at the get-go
that being said, you can still use the custom cmparts.apk even w/o using swap partition... not that big of a conflict since if you have SWAP partition it works if not its disabled... only the functionality is present... and you dont have to maintain a separate script/package/whatever...
also, if your SDCard is acting up, use the SDCard formatter do a full format, then use HD low level format tool... or if you bought HDD Regenerator like me, its easy to find the health of your SD Media... but thats a moot matter... and im done talking for the night i think... (well the night ends in 3min... :X )
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You can actually use compcache with out swapping to sd. But any swap introduces latency so it negates most gains achieved. So more apps might not get killed off as quick allowing them to reopen faster but forground apps suffer from the latency and compression.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/
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zenulator said:
You can actually use compcache with out swapping to sd. But any swap introduces latency so it negates most gains achieved. So more apps might not get killed off as quick allowing them to reopen faster but forground apps suffer from the latency and compression.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/
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AFAICT non of our kernels support compcache. It's a patch you have to apply to the kernel itself in order to make it work.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/wiki/Patches

THANK YOU
ok i would like to say thanks for ur help.
AND I NO THAT IT IS THE WRONG THREAD FOR ME TO POST THIS BUT THIS PHONE IS NOT THAT BIG AND NO ONE LOOK IN GENERAL FORUMS FOR THIS ONE. SO I PUT IT WHERE I WOULD GET THE MOST ANSWERS. BUT THANKS AGAIN

B RAD G 296 said:
ok i would like to say thanks for ur help.
AND I NO THAT IT IS THE WRONG THREAD FOR ME TO POST THIS BUT THIS PHONE IS NOT THAT BIG AND NO ONE LOOK IN GENERAL FORUMS FOR THIS ONE. SO I PUT IT WHERE I WOULD GET THE MOST ANSWERS. BUT THANKS AGAIN
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I actually understand the reasoning.... hell I forget about general and q&a sometimes
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strapped365 said:
I actually understand the reasoning.... hell I forget about general and q&a sometimes
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willful ignorance... I flat out ignore the general and Q&A sections... unless I have a question not directly related to a rom...
@Sparksco... none out support compcache... that blows arse... I am glad then that I still use my HeroC (with compcache, you can DEFINITELY feel a SPEED UP rather then down ) as my home Read/Music/Browse device... well that and its extended battery and more responsive touch screen... (yes, i know, new update fix's this.. but I aint tried it yet)... Id beg you to include it in your next kernel/rom... but your deadset on not (its like 2WayCallRecording and No2WayCallRecording Kernels for my HD2... lol!)

Hammerfest said:
willful ignorance... I flat out ignore the general and Q&A sections... unless I have a question not directly related to a rom...
@Sparksco... none out support compcache... that blows arse... I am glad then that I still use my HeroC (with compcache, you can DEFINITELY feel a SPEED UP rather then down ) as my home Read/Music/Browse device... well that and its extended battery and more responsive touch screen... (yes, i know, new update fix's this.. but I aint tried it yet)... Id beg you to include it in your next kernel/rom... but your deadset on not (its like 2WayCallRecording and No2WayCallRecording Kernels for my HD2... lol!)
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Thanks for all the insight and I have taken allot in from this whole discussion.
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I was told in a thread that 128 was Max on swap but I'm always willing to try new things. I did come from my old Heroc was a great phone to first start of on, till it took a crap on me.,lol meaning my mother in law threw it in the washing machine. Then my son threw my wifes in the toilet. Was great because of the best buy protection. Loved the old device but the shift is like night and day. Don't really use the keyboard. what is all I would need to do to use more swap? I haven't had any lock UPS what so ever. Class 4 8GB btw.
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Try Install new GBX0C 2.3.7 from Arrrghhh

This is from thi thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420264
I have try to install the new GBX0C 2.3.7 with all new from attachment. And i was happy because it's all work fine for my htc touch pro2 US Cellular. only bluetooth alway scanning and has no visible time. Battery was very consumable, i/2 day for full recharge, maybe it is happen because data transfer for sync enable. And it is still slowly, maybe because i have install about 15 application from marketplace. But it is all good for me, and i still waiting for new complete for this build with more fixed. it is possible if to be NAND version make this build faster than SDCARD?
Sorry for my bad english.
Many Thank's to Aarrrghhh who made this build. Keep Up.:good::good::good:

AZain said:
This is from thi thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420264
I have try to install the new GBX0C 2.3.7 with all new from attachment. And i was happy because it's all work fine for my htc touch pro2 US Cellular. only bluetooth alway scanning and has no visible time. Battery was very consumable, i/2 day for full recharge, maybe it is happen because data transfer for sync enable. And it is still slowly, maybe because i have install about 15 application from marketplace. But it is all good for me, and i still waiting for new complete for this build with more fixed. it is possible if to be NAND version make this build faster than SDCARD?
Sorry for my bad english.
Many Thank's to Aarrrghhh who made this build. Keep Up.:good::good::good:
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Bluetooth does not work well for many people. It takes me 10 attempts to pair my headset. - known issue
Battery life is not great (or super accurate) with this rom. You would be better off with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347321 if battery life is important. It has a better battery driver.
Sd cards and Nand have about the same speed depending on your SD card. The SD card has to have high random read/write abilities, or the experience will be bad.
Read this for more info. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633&page=2
Here is a thread on speed improvements.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218458

Let me try
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Bluetooth does not work well for many people. It takes me 10 attempts to pair my headset. - known issue
Battery life is not great (or super accurate) with this rom. You would be better off with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347321 if battery life is important. It has a better battery driver.
Sd cards and Nand have about the same speed depending on your SD card. The SD card has to have high random read/write abilities, or the experience will be bad.
Read this for more info. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633&page=2
Here is a thread on speed improvements.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218458
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Thank's wizardknight, I'll try your trick and give my review next. But if this built have no different between SDCARD or NAND, absolutely we will choose the SD CARD because it's more save if anything happen. that in my opinion. And i will use this built in my phone.
Thanks.

Thank you wizardknight for your suggestion with sd boot, it is make my speed increase well. Only when this phone sync come slowly, but back to normal. I use vgen 8gb, I did not know the read and write speed.
Still waiting for bluetooth fix and final release for this build from arrrggghhh...
Thank you....
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AZain said:
Thank you wizardknight for your suggestion with sd boot, it is make my speed increase well. Only when this phone sync come slowly, but back to normal. I use vgen 8gb, I did not know the read and write speed.
Still waiting for bluetooth fix and final release for this build from arrrggghhh...
Thank you....
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No one is developing bluetooth, and no one has for quite awhile. What you see is probably what you will get. There has not been any new news in a few months. But we keep hoping

Note Slowing down

So I Have been spending a lot of time and effort with my GS3, tweaking the kernal and rom for battery performance and it seems to be working well, now I need to address my Note. Its gotten really slow and feels laggy. My memory used by running apps is less then half. I have greenify freezing a bunch of stuff i dont really need. Im rooted on stock for Rom, with stock Kernel. I was eyeballing some Roms but really dont want to lose any TW functionality, but was hoping to hold off on that until some 2014 Roms popped up. I run Apex as a launcher right now.
Has anyone noticed speed differences with Custom TW Roms or Kernels? or have a good CPU monitor app, they all look pretty, meh, on the play store (i really wish you could see number of dl's and raters from the list view on the play store)...
Up for any suggestions....

Your problem likely has nothing to do with "available RAM" or "processes".
... how full is your internal flash (your "sdcard")?

Neflhiem said:
So I Have been spending a lot of time and effort with my GS3, tweaking the kernal and rom for battery performance and it seems to be working well, now I need to address my Note. Its gotten really slow and feels laggy. My memory used by running apps is less then half. I have greenify freezing a bunch of stuff i dont really need. Im rooted on stock for Rom, with stock Kernel. I was eyeballing some Roms but really dont want to lose any TW functionality, but was hoping to hold off on that until some 2014 Roms popped up. I run Apex as a launcher right now.
Has anyone noticed speed differences with Custom TW Roms or Kernels? or have a good CPU monitor app, they all look pretty, meh, on the play store (i really wish you could see number of dl's and raters from the list view on the play store)...
Up for any suggestions....
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
Try 'Moderate' profile.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zdvdev.sef&hl=en
Set to 512. It's the same as seeder but I felt this is much more stable. I'm using this despite paying for seeder.

Nikorasu said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zdvdev.sef&hl=en
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I'm sorry, but both of those apps are essentially useless. Task killers are completely unnecessary with the version of Android we're using, and "Seeder" type apps have been shown to have no benefit (the entropy pool is refreshed a different way in post 3.0 kernel versions).
I'm still waiting for the OP to tell me how much free space is left on his internal flash; that measurement has actual deterministic correlation to lag.

Nikorasu said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
Try 'Moderate' profile.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zdvdev.sef&hl=en
Set to 512. It's the same as seeder but I felt this is much more stable. I'm using this despite paying for seeder.
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Autokiller is not a task killer.
I'm aware that seeder does not work as well for Ics/Jb, compared to 2.x. On my Razr, seeder has more obvious effects on 4.0, 4.1 compared to 4.2 and 4.3. Perhaps I have a crapload of apps/games on my phone/tablet so the effects are more obvious.
Boths apps are free and are reversible so no harm trying.

kcrudup said:
I'm sorry, but both of those apps are essentially useless. Task killers are completely unnecessary with the version of Android we're using, and "Seeder" type apps have been shown to have no benefit (the entropy pool is refreshed a different way in post 3.0 kernel versions).
I'm still waiting for the OP to tell me how much free space is left on his internal flash; that measurement has actual deterministic correlation to lag.
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Ok.. for the internal, out of 25.87 GB i have 18.86 GB Available
On Ram, from Application Manager im showing .93G used 863 MB free
While it may not seem like it, this im sure is the problem. I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings, but im not sure where im looking to clear that up... im only using half of each..

Nikorasu said:
Autokiller is not a task killer.
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Might as well be- its page says it "fine tunes android systems inner memory manager to keep your device fast over time", so it modifies the various low-memory-killer limits so Android does the killing, but the idea is the same. People have to get out of the mindset that "bloat" means anything, need to remember that unused memory is wasted memory and that the system has a better idea of how to manage the apps you've chosen.
Neflhiem said:
... for the internal, out of 25.87 GB I have 18.86 GB available
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You have a 32GB unit, right? If not you're looking at your SD-Card, and I need to know the used/free percentages on your /data (or /sdcard, close enough) partition. But if you do have a 32GB device, that's actually quite empty, which is a good thing. If you're rooted, have you tried running an "fstrim" app on the device like this app?
On RAM, from Application Manager I'm showing [930 MB] used 863 MB free ... this I'm sure is the problem.
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No, not at all- in fact, you're underusing most of your memory.
I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings
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From where? When do these occur?

You have a 32GB unit, right? If not you're looking at your SD-Card, and I need to know the used/free percentages on your /data (or /sdcard, close enough) partition. But if you do have a 32GB device, that's actually quite empty, which is a good thing. If you're rooted, have you tried running an "fstrim" app on the device like this app?
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Yeah, 32GB unit, No, havent tried an Fstrim app, grabbing it now...
No, not at all- in fact, you're underusing most of your memory.
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Sorry, that didnt read right, i see i have plenty of open mem, i ment that i suspect the lag is comeing from some sort of storage/memory problem. An unseen one per say.
From where? When do these occur?
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When i install an app. thats when i get it. I couldnt remember at first.. was thinking its random, but it seems to pop up when i install and app. I cant tell if its only play store or sideloaded as well, dont do enough of the latter.
Ill install Fstrim, and see if it helps some.
thanks for taking the time to do this.

Neflhiem said:
I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings
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Neflhiem said:
When I install an app. That's when I get it. I couldn't remember at first. Was thinking it's random, but it seems to pop up when I install an app.
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OK, something isn't right here. Can you do me a favor? Run "adb shell df" and send me that?

kcrudup said:
Might as well be- its page says it "fine tunes android systems inner memory manager to keep your device fast over time", so it modifies the various low-memory-killer limits so Android does the killing, but the idea is the same. People have to get out of the mindset that "bloat" means anything, need to remember that unused memory is wasted memory and that the system has a better idea of how to manage the apps you've chosen.
You have a 32GB unit, right? If not you're looking at your SD-Card, and I need to know the used/free percentages on your /data (or /sdcard, close enough) partition. But if you do have a 32GB device, that's actually quite empty, which is a good thing. If you're rooted, have you tried running an "fstrim" app on the device like this app?
No, not at all- in fact, you're underusing most of your memory.
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Yup, it tweaks Android internal memory killer. I won't recommend this if it didn't work for me.
Changing it to moderate preset is pretty safe.

Thanks, I'll send that probably Monday. Thanks again
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Neflhiem said:
While it may not seem like it, this im sure is the problem. I do get the "only xxmb left of internal memory" warnings, but im not sure where im looking to clear that up... im only using half of each..
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How odd! I got today this same warning too. I have 2,2gig free space i my internal memory and I was installing some app and got a message that i have only 1,48mb free or so.
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enigma_x said:
How odd! I got today this same warning too. I have 2,2gig free space i my internal memory and I was installing some app and got a message that i have only 1,48mb free or so.
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We have two note 10.1 tablets(wifi only). One is 16 gb the other is 32 gb... On the 16 there is about 5.6 gb free. When installing some apps from google play we get the same message . and it says 1.48 free.. I think this is a Bug with the new play store. The message will NOT Come up when side loading apps is what i have noticed.Unless it prevents you from installing the apps i would not worry about that message.

Wait for 4.3 and the TRIM support.

elzeus said:
Wait for 4.3 and the TRIM support.
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We have TRIM already.
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For you folks seeing "Not enough free space" issues, how are you determining your "Free Flash" numbers?

kcrudup said:
We have TRIM already.
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Really?
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kcrudup said:
We have TRIM already
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enigma_x said:
Really?
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Yes. The stock kernel has it, see that "discard" option:
Code:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /data ext4 noatime,nosuid,nodev,discard,noauto_da_alloc,journal_async_commit,errors=panic wait,check,encryptable=footer
... and my kernels have that, plus at boot time I run "fstrim" on every partition:
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/system/bin/logwrapper /sbin/fstrim -v /data
/system/bin/logwrapper /sbin/fstrim -v /cache
/system/bin/logwrapper /sbin/fstrim -v /system
4.3 runs that last part more often, but technically if the system is running the "discard" option on the filesystems, at least once at boot should really be enough.

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OK, something isn't right here. Can you do me a favor? Run "adb shell df" and send me that?
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hmm. I dont have a PC to connect to, and am having an hard time finding something i can run from my Note. any suggestions on how to run ADB Shell DF locally?

i use system tuner pro. esp if you are rooted. gives a great overall outlook on what is going on with the system.
i personally haven't tried any custom rom's yet. and i can tell also my Note starting to feel laggy.
really hoping a 4.4 custom rom comes along. I heard they added IR blaster support in 4.4 and would really love that to be available. really the only functionality holding me back from custom roms atm.

killerskincanoe said:
i use system tuner pro. esp if you are rooted. gives a great overall outlook on what is going on with the system.
i personally haven't tried any custom rom's yet. and i can tell also my Note starting to feel laggy.
really hoping a 4.4 custom rom comes along. I heard they added IR blaster support in 4.4 and would really love that to be available. really the only functionality holding me back from custom roms atm.
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ok.. will try that out.. creepy ass avatar by the way..

Performance booster, ram booster, etc

I download this app on googleplay that boosted my androids performance and it feels like its brand new. I dont know how this app works but i just want to know if it shortenes lifespan on my device. I know that apps like sd card cache booster will definitely shorten sd card life.
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I would like to know about this also.
Link for everyone else

try this
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I download this app on googleplay that boosted my androids performance and it feels like its brand new. I dont know how this app works but i just want to know if it shortenes lifespan on my device. I know that apps like sd card cache booster will definitely shorten sd card life.
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try to make root
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Panzer15 said:
I download this app on googleplay that boosted my androids performance and it feels like its brand new. I dont know how this app works but i just want to know if it shortenes lifespan on my device. I know that apps like sd card cache booster will definitely shorten sd card life.
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It will probably, since it is boosting to a level the device normally doesn't support. So it's doing more work than it should do.
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For me it doesnt effect anything when i used it

NiZii. said:
It will probably, since it is boosting to a level the device normally doesn't support. So it's doing more work than it should do.
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But how do you know if it's really working? Benchmarks don't matter for these applications; the only way to find out is through a side by side comparison.

kokhean said:
But how do you know if it's really working? Benchmarks don't matter for these applications; the only way to find out is through a side by side comparison.
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I just read some descriptions for these apps. At least the descriptions are really poor, and the user will not get any usefull knowledge. Only "These apps will not change android settings itself but change the way android is managed. Could be all or nothing :/ I prefer to know what an application will do to my phone. I also try to use as less apps and background processes as possible and really needed. THAT really boosts the performance and will also reduce the risk of system instability.
If anyone can could please explain how these apps will speed up android i was very pleased

LS.xD said:
I just read some descriptions for these apps. At least the descriptions are really poor, and the user will not get any usefull knowledge. Only "These apps will not change android settings itself but change the way android is managed. Could be all or nothing :/ I prefer to know what an application will do to my phone. I also try to use as less apps and background processes as possible and really needed. THAT really boosts the performance and will also reduce the risk of system instability.
If anyone can could please explain how these apps will speed up android i was very pleased
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So anyone who's willing to test it out on two devices for comparison?