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Is there a way to use memory in ur sdcard as ram for ur phone, so i can increase the performance. i think u can, so if u now how to can u post a link?
And i am using MikRunny rom

B RAD G 296 said:
Is there a way to use memory in ur sdcard as ram for ur phone, so i can increase the performance. i think u can, so if u now how to can u post a link?
And i am using MikRunny rom
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IIRC, there is a mod to use either a partition or a file on your MicroSD card for SWAP space... which is basically where programs that normally reside in ram would go when not in use... think its one by sparksco...
however, I dont see hardly any kernels with it built in these days... its a GOD SEND on my HD2 and Hero... Id love to use SWAP partition on all my devices...
hope someone more knowledgeable about whats out will reply

First this is the wrong thread for questions and answers.
And yes we have a few kernals that allow swap. But the rom as well needs to have that available from what I recall. Think cm uses 128 max though. I know there is a miui rom that uses swap here too. Does come in handy. You will need to reformat your sd card for swap if your going to use it. There is also ext3 and 4 and that acts like available storage space for your phone. I would only use 1-1.5 gb for that though. Some of these big games only want to go on your sd card.
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One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.

VICODAN said:
One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.
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what that makes no sense how does it slow down

B RAD G 296 said:
what that makes no sense how does it slow down
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I was using swap for quite some time and it seemed to work really well for awhile and then started to cause my phone a lot of lock-ups after awhile. I think it was just eating up my sdcard too much. And it has been proven that swap wears on your sdcard quite a bit. I don't think it's worth it. There's a script made by Darkky that patches memory leaks in roms that seems to work good. I include these in a lot of roms and my memory always stays above 80mb.

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VICODAN said:
One of our biggest supporters of swap has actually decided it's not such a good idea.
And it does not speed things up. It slows things down. Even with a class 10 sd card.
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What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
B RAD G 296 said:
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It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
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I was using swap for quite some time and it seemed to work really well for awhile and then started to cause my phone a lot of lock-ups after awhile. I think it was just eating up my sdcard too much. And it has been proven that swap wears on your sdcard quite a bit. I don't think it's worth it. There's a script made by Darkky that patches memory leaks in roms that seems to work good. I include these in a lot of roms and my memory always stays above 80mb.
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yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...

There are apps like juwe11's ram app, rom toolbox has a memory settings, script manager in combination with v6 supercharger script (which I highly recommend, as it helps prevent sense reloads), auto killer memory, etc. Each phone has a "brain" of it's own. My phone likes v6 or auto killer memory, but other phones like juwe11's ramscript/app. Trial and error. Good luck, and post your results if you want to.
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Hammerfest said:
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What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...
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Really doesn't get explained any better than this.

Hammerfest said:
WARNING: LONG WINDED POST... read at your own risk...
What people fail to understand is that SWAP or fake ram is INHERENTLY IOPS sensitive... that being said, NONE of the Class 10 MicroSD cards have had ANYWHERE NEAR good enough IOPS for SWAP intensive operations... On my HD2 I went through testing 10 MicroSD cards of different Class's and sizes to find out which gave me the best performance while using SWAP and what gave me the best IOPS, Sadly, out of them all, only a Class 4 and Class 6, where anywhere decent enough to be good enough to function as SWAP devices... I mean 4 other ones worked... but you could tell with these 2....
It makes perfect sense... lets take game files from an SSD and transfer them to a HDD... while RAM and MicroSD both use NAND/Flash memory, its still a medium transfer as well! ERGO if you have a crappy IOPS MicroSD card, your going to notice slowdowns and wait times while things in RAM are swapped out to SWAP and vice versa... I guess the best comparison is using the SLEEP function on Windows 7 VS the Hibernation function...
yeah SWAP eats the CRAP out of your MicroSD card... proven fact... HOWEVER, if your like me, 8GB and 16GB cards are rather cheep these days, I totally dont mind spending $10-30 every 6~ months buying a new MicroSD card if it keeps my OLD device speedy... (pun intended)
I got a link around here that I posted somewhere with like 4-6 different MicroSD test run results... will edit this post and link it later...
Oh, and yeah, this belongs in Q&A... but I cant blame you... its a legacy device... and I only visit the Android development section for any device I use... :X
EDIT1: "halrulez" my HD2 running on the NIGHTLY CM7 builds has ZERO problems using/utilizing my 1GB SWAP partition... its all kernel/romsetup based...
EDIT2: some things I thought I should point out after I re-read my own post... in the Windows Sleep V Hibernation statement, when in Sleep, the RAM is kept on, and thus requires no loading time, in Hibernation, RAM is stored on the HDD/SSD and must be transferred back onto RAM before it will boot... I also forgot that I backup my MicroSD's contents with Dropbox and Box software, as well as backup's that are performed whenever I plugin my Phone or MicroSD to my desktop or laptop...
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That is a good explaintion. But personally I don't want to be the guy that releases a rom with swap already in it and get the guilt of someone's sdcard breaking. As drob311 said there's apps and other ways of making it work and my rom/kernel does still support these other ways of using it.

sparksco said:
That is a good explaintion. But personally I don't want to be the guy that releases a rom with swap already in it and get the guilt of someone's sdcard breaking. As drob311 said there's apps and other ways of making it work and my rom/kernel does still support these other ways of using it.
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you do know that you can enable SWAP in a rom, but make it contained to SWAP PARTITION only? ergo if they made a SWAP partition on their MicroSD card... hence you have zero liability if said card breaks... you have to have SOME knowledge to repartition a MicroSD card properly for a SWAP partition
BTW, I fully support enabling it that way, it also leads the way to making the script for SWAP file vs partition easier because the ROM is ready for it, its just not enabled unless someone inserts the custom script OR has the proper partition for SWAP!

Hammerfest said:
you do know that you can enable SWAP in a rom, but make it contained to SWAP PARTITION only? ergo if they made a SWAP partition on their MicroSD card... hence you have zero liability if said card breaks... you have to have SOME knowledge to repartition a MicroSD card properly for a SWAP partition
BTW, I fully support enabling it that way, it also leads the way to making the script for SWAP file vs partition easier because the ROM is ready for it, its just not enabled unless someone inserts the custom script OR has the proper partition for SWAP!
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Yes I know. I already had a swap script for swap partition for cm7 but you need a custom cmparts.apk since cm decided to disable all swap on their roms. Plus I didn't really feel like repartitioning my sdcard once it started acting up. I'll probably just make a seperate add-on to flash over the roms for it if people want it.

sparksco said:
Yes I know. I already had a swap script for swap partition for cm7 but you need a custom cmparts.apk since cm decided to disable all swap on their roms. Plus I didn't really feel like repartitioning my sdcard once it started acting up. I'll probably just make a seperate add-on to flash over the roms for it if people want it.
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im cool with that
actually, if someone can get YES/NO in CWM like on my HD2 you can put it all in the rom and they can choose right at the get-go
that being said, you can still use the custom cmparts.apk even w/o using swap partition... not that big of a conflict since if you have SWAP partition it works if not its disabled... only the functionality is present... and you dont have to maintain a separate script/package/whatever...
also, if your SDCard is acting up, use the SDCard formatter do a full format, then use HD low level format tool... or if you bought HDD Regenerator like me, its easy to find the health of your SD Media... but thats a moot matter... and im done talking for the night i think... (well the night ends in 3min... :X )
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You can actually use compcache with out swapping to sd. But any swap introduces latency so it negates most gains achieved. So more apps might not get killed off as quick allowing them to reopen faster but forground apps suffer from the latency and compression.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/
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zenulator said:
You can actually use compcache with out swapping to sd. But any swap introduces latency so it negates most gains achieved. So more apps might not get killed off as quick allowing them to reopen faster but forground apps suffer from the latency and compression.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/
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AFAICT non of our kernels support compcache. It's a patch you have to apply to the kernel itself in order to make it work.
http://code.google.com/p/compcache/wiki/Patches

THANK YOU
ok i would like to say thanks for ur help.
AND I NO THAT IT IS THE WRONG THREAD FOR ME TO POST THIS BUT THIS PHONE IS NOT THAT BIG AND NO ONE LOOK IN GENERAL FORUMS FOR THIS ONE. SO I PUT IT WHERE I WOULD GET THE MOST ANSWERS. BUT THANKS AGAIN

B RAD G 296 said:
ok i would like to say thanks for ur help.
AND I NO THAT IT IS THE WRONG THREAD FOR ME TO POST THIS BUT THIS PHONE IS NOT THAT BIG AND NO ONE LOOK IN GENERAL FORUMS FOR THIS ONE. SO I PUT IT WHERE I WOULD GET THE MOST ANSWERS. BUT THANKS AGAIN
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I actually understand the reasoning.... hell I forget about general and q&a sometimes
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strapped365 said:
I actually understand the reasoning.... hell I forget about general and q&a sometimes
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willful ignorance... I flat out ignore the general and Q&A sections... unless I have a question not directly related to a rom...
@Sparksco... none out support compcache... that blows arse... I am glad then that I still use my HeroC (with compcache, you can DEFINITELY feel a SPEED UP rather then down ) as my home Read/Music/Browse device... well that and its extended battery and more responsive touch screen... (yes, i know, new update fix's this.. but I aint tried it yet)... Id beg you to include it in your next kernel/rom... but your deadset on not (its like 2WayCallRecording and No2WayCallRecording Kernels for my HD2... lol!)

Hammerfest said:
willful ignorance... I flat out ignore the general and Q&A sections... unless I have a question not directly related to a rom...
@Sparksco... none out support compcache... that blows arse... I am glad then that I still use my HeroC (with compcache, you can DEFINITELY feel a SPEED UP rather then down ) as my home Read/Music/Browse device... well that and its extended battery and more responsive touch screen... (yes, i know, new update fix's this.. but I aint tried it yet)... Id beg you to include it in your next kernel/rom... but your deadset on not (its like 2WayCallRecording and No2WayCallRecording Kernels for my HD2... lol!)
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Thanks for all the insight and I have taken allot in from this whole discussion.
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I was told in a thread that 128 was Max on swap but I'm always willing to try new things. I did come from my old Heroc was a great phone to first start of on, till it took a crap on me.,lol meaning my mother in law threw it in the washing machine. Then my son threw my wifes in the toilet. Was great because of the best buy protection. Loved the old device but the shift is like night and day. Don't really use the keyboard. what is all I would need to do to use more swap? I haven't had any lock UPS what so ever. Class 4 8GB btw.
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What is the best way to increase internal memory for the phone?

Title of thread.

Lilshaun said:
Title of thread.
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run something besides the stock firmware. AOKP for example has a smaller memory foot print than the shipping firmware.

to be honest, you can't really do a damn thing, running a different rom will free up maybe 100mb.

I'm currently running cleanrom lite 1.0. However, I still find that I usually only have around 250 mb free to use even without any apps open.

Lilshaun said:
I'm currently running cleanrom lite 1.0. However, I still find that I usually only have around 250 mb free to use even without any apps open.
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Running ver 1.1 and loving it. I dont care if it says 5mb free. If its running smoothly thats all that matters

Your question is about increasing internal memory. Unless you were to break the phone open and replace the chip (not sure how well that'd go but I'd think not so good), you cannot increase memory. You can run a lightweight rom but that just makes more available not increasing size. Also its unclear if you're talking about internal disc space such as the ad card that you'd see on many phones, or actual memory.

shgadwa said:
Your question is about increasing internal memory. Unless you were to break the phone open and replace the chip (not sure how well that'd go but I'd think not so good), you cannot increase memory. You can run a lightweight rom but that just makes more available not increasing size. Also its unclear if you're talking about internal disc space such as the ad card that you'd see on many phones, or actual memory.
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I'm pretty sure he meant something along the lines of increasing the memory that's free, not actually opening up the phone. I hope..

2gb of ram?

Can someone explain this to me?

I don't know why, I have the same thing, but I think its related to how you would order a 16gb microsd and have, for instance 14.03 gb.

Some of it gets used by kernel space and video ram.

Think of this as a computer, a computer with a video card that doesn't have on board RAM will reserved some portion of the RAM for it's own used and will not show the full the full system RAM because of that portion being reserved. It's computer's nature.

scsa20 said:
Think of this as a computer, a computer with a video card that doesn't have on board RAM will reserved some portion of the RAM for it's own used and will not show the full the full system RAM because of that portion being reserved. It's computer's nature.
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Great way of putting out
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scsa20 said:
Think of this as a computer, a computer with a video card that doesn't have on board RAM will reserved some portion of the RAM for it's own used and will not show the full the full system RAM because of that portion being reserved. It's computer's nature.
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Basically this.
If you look at any Android device, you'll notice it doesn't list the full amount of RAM that it physically has. It's just the nature of the operating system.
With 1.62GB reserved for use by applications, who can complain? That's equal to or more than pretty much any Android device in existence at the moment.

ExodusC said:
Basically this.
If you look at any Android device, you'll notice it doesn't list the full amount of RAM that it physically has. It's just the nature of the operating system.
With 1.62GB reserved for use by applications, who can complain? That's equal to or more than pretty much any Android device in existence at the moment.
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I was pretty sure is more and ANY android phone in existance except US variants of gs3 (and Korean one too maybe?)
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Bloat sucks! Like others have said, roughly 380mb of ram is reserved for the system.

droidstyle said:
Bloat sucks! Like others have said, roughly 380mb of ram is reserved for the system.
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Without that "bloat" your RAM wouldn't work at all.

Ansextra said:
Without that "bloat" your RAM wouldn't work at all.
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Huh. Think about what you just said.
Bloat is by definition superfluous data that is not required. And the ram would still work, it just wouldn't have anything to run so it wouldn't have a function.
What you were probably trying to say was without the necessary required system files the ram would be largely useless. Of course that really isn't relevant in addressing what droidstyle said.
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Ansextra said:
Without that "bloat" your RAM wouldn't work at all.
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derpy derp, please refer to bobloblaw's post!

can't see the attachment in the OP, but I assume based off the comments they are noticing the 1.6Gb available to user, which is as others have explained, after all the system gets it's memory and all
then out of that, at least on my CM10 JB build, with a lot of apps running, there is still 1GB of ram free, so there's 600Mb actively in use by apps and what not....
be really glad you have a full gigabyte of free ram, you could be like the Exynos guys and get a gimped 1Gb of ram and have only 100!150Mb free, and have your apps and stuff having to reload and stuff just to maintain free memory for overhead.

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Huh. Think about what you just said.
Bloat is by definition superfluous data that is not required. And the ram would still work, it just wouldn't have anything to run so it wouldn't have a function.
What you were probably trying to say was without the necessary required system files the ram would be largely useless. Of course that really isn't relevant in addressing what droidstyle said.
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Yes that is what I was trying to say. Thank you. But it is not irrelevant because by definition bloat would not be necessary files to my way of thinking. Bloat (the way I think of it) are files taking up space that are not necessary. This 380k is necessary.

the 380 is mostly necessary. you and droidstyle are both correct, no not all of that is useless stuff but honestly probably a majority of it is crap running in the background, stock apps and widgets and processes, that nobody will ever need.
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TechSavvy2 said:
I was pretty sure is more and ANY android phone in existance except US variants of gs3 (and Korean one too maybe?)
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LG Optimus LTE II announced the same day as the Galaxy S III comes with 2 GB of RAM. Although, if I recall correctly, the usable memory is something like 1.2 GB.

Taehee. said:
LG Optimus LTE II announced the same day as the Galaxy S III comes with 2 GB of RAM. Although, if I recall correctly, the usable memory is something like 1.2 GB.
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2GB of ram is quickly becoming the norm. It's nice after a couple days let say I have opened 60 apps, and when i go back to an app from the day before after using my phone the entire time, to be able to go back to that app and have it be right where i left it, having lost nothing......also it's nice to be able to run very involving launchers and not have to wait on it to reload from time to time......

bobloblaw1 said:
Huh. Think about what you just said.
Bloat is by definition superfluous data that is not required. And the ram would still work, it just wouldn't have anything to run so it wouldn't have a function.
What you were probably trying to say was without the necessary required system files the ram would be largely useless. Of course that really isn't relevant in addressing what droidstyle said.
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Your so called bloat isn't loaded into ram unless you launch it and I'm certain it isn't using the system reserved ram but would use the free ram pool. I would assume its the os and video memory that is using that space not some vzw apps you aren't using.

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piiman said:
Your so called bloat isn't loaded into ram unless you launch it and I'm certain it isn't using the system reserved ram but would use the free ram pool. I would assume its the os and video memory that is using that space not some vzw apps you aren't using.
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a lot of the Samsung stuff is indeed loaded into RAM.
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b4silver said:
Can someone explain this to me?
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[/COLOR]Agree that it's being used by the video display. Video memory has to come from somewhere.

how to expand my ram

hi, ive been succesfully rooted my samsung galaxy gio s5660m and now im looking forward for my ram expansion and internal memory.. someone can help me for this topic? tnx a lot

badagila said:
hi, ive been succesfully rooted my samsung galaxy gio s5660m and now im looking forward for my ram expansion and internal memory.. someone can help me for this topic? tnx a lot
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You need to go here to download the extra RAM for your device - if it's compatible.

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SimonTS said:
You need to go here to download the extra RAM for your device - if it's compatible.
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is it 100% safe? tnx

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Sewrizer said:
I don't think you can download RAM.. I know you can add RAM cards on computers and laptops but they have certain limitations(plus, they are hardware which you have to buy and apply correctly).. and on an android phone I'm not sure.. so if you could provide more details it would be great.
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but you have any idea how to increase ram in a safe way? do you already root your cell phone?

Sewrizer said:
i have rooted a sgs2 and a htc sensation xe.
You can't increase RAM without the hardware (again, as far as i know). the only thing you can do is to use less RAM, thus making the device faster and more effective. try freezing the apps that you are not using with titanium back-up. a lot of apps work on background and you don't even need them. by freezing them, you prevent them from auto-starting. you can unfreeze them to make them work again. (you need to be rooted for this)
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And then we get into the old falacy that "Free RAM is good". This is simply NOT true on Android. If you start running too short on free RAM then the Android system starts to kill applications to free up more RAM, but RAM is there to be used.

badagila said:
is it 100% safe? tnx
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Ahahahaha :')
@OP I don't know if this'll work on your phone but on the HD2 at least you could create a swap partition on your SD card then flash a zRam script to increase RAM.

Sewrizer said:
So you are saying it is bad/useless to kill/freeze unused background applications?
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Useless? Not necessarily, as long as you know what you are doing and are 100% certain about the apps you are freezing. However, I have never seen any real benefit in doing so. The Android built-in task manager normally does a failry good job of managing the memory without any real intervention.

SimonTS said:
Useless? Not necessarily, as long as you know what you are doing and are 100% certain about the apps you are freezing. However, I have never seen any real benefit in doing so. The Android built-in task manager normally does a failry good job of managing the memory without any real intervention.
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Actually I personally have found that killing apps on devices with low RAM makes the phone feel a lot faster.

Nigeldg said:
Actually I personally have found that killing apps on devices with low RAM makes the phone feel a lot faster.
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Manually killing them is something I do as well. I just don't buy into the task-killer type apps.
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I was suggesting freezing and killing unused apps on background because on phones with low RAM (his gio has less than 512 MB of ram) system is laggy, mostly because of pre-installed software which users don't use. He said he has just rooted his phone, therefore he can't have uninstalled the network carrier apps/social networks apps, which may be running on background. And in my experience as an android user, if anything is laggy or stops working, i restart the phone. And after restarting it always works smoother.
About the android built-in task manager, it does indeed do a good job, but on 2.x android versions is a little harder to find and use. thanks for replies
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Freezing / killing the apps as root can be useful, but as I said you need to be certain what apps you are freezing and why. How many times have you read on XDA from someone who has frozen a load of the 'Background' apps, and then finds their device won't even boot up and they have to do a full flash to recover, often losing a load of data as well?

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Nigeldg said:
Ahahahaha :')
@OP I don't know if this'll work on your phone but on the HD2 at least you could create a swap partition on your SD card then flash a zRam script to increase RAM.
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my phone is samsung galaxy gio s5660m and yes i rooted

SD to Ram?

Who have tried this mod? I believe ive read it before i just cant see the thread, as i remember its called sd swap (but not that sd swap int2ext)if im not mistaken? Is it worth a try? The mod which gives partition from sd card to expand ram?
EDIT- This one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
Who have tried it?

wow .. i ll tried it sooon ....
more ram ..... hhh more Hd Games

Sounds awesome, but the maximum swap of 256 MB is a dampener! Hope someone tries it on their i9003 and reverts if it works on this device.

Up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mhd1r3WEU&feature=youtu.be
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Try Ram expander app. It dioes same job. I tried that app but frankly speaking we must need class 10 memory card to see actual noticeble difference.

I have a class 10 microsd card and am willing to try this on my i9003, however, would like to try it before I buy this app. Can someone point me to a trial version of this app?

marshygeek said:
Who have tried this mod? I believe ive read it before i just cant see the thread, as i remember its called sd swap (but not that sd swap int2ext)if im not mistaken? Is it worth a try? The mod which gives partition from sd card to expand ram?
EDIT- This one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
Who have tried it?
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danierakes said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mhd1r3WEU&feature=youtu.be
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Tried the Ram Expander app on my SL and successfully created a 1422MB partition on my class 10, 16GB microSD card. Terminal Emulator confirmed the same. (Total RAM 1.44 GB)
Need to test it on some games though, any suggestions?

@coolcowboy Try Real Racing 3! And maybe..... Temple Run 2 and Subway Surfer!

coolcowboy said:
Tried the Ram Expander app on my SL and successfully created a 1422MB partition on my class 10, 16GB microSD card. Terminal Emulator confirmed the same. (Total RAM 1.44 GB)
Need to test it on some games though, any suggestions?
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Dude did the app make a difference..

I used this app,(Ramexpander),for a couple of months and didnt notice any improvement on terms of smoothness in every roms i tried. I think its just a placebo.
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acuicultor said:
I used this app for a couple of months and didnt notice any improvement on terms of smoothness in every roms i tried. I think its just a placebo.
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Did u use a class 10 external sd card for the swap partition ???

ivAnash said:
Did u use a class 10 external sd card for the swap partition ???
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Yes i have 16gb class 10 sdcard.
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acuicultor said:
I used this app,(Ramexpander),for a couple of months and didnt notice any improvement on terms of smoothness in every roms i tried. I think its just a placebo.
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+1
Tried it on my 16GB class 10 card, and didn't find any noticable difference. What a waste!

As far as I know, the swap is used to cache some memory, not all... it doesn't matter if you make a 4gb partition for SD to swap, it probably will use a max of 256mb.. the way it works it's to cache some stuff there, so you have a little more free memory in your device... You will probably never feel the difference in any device with more than 256mb of RAM memory... plus... reading the SD is really slow... so I don't think it would make any difference to us...

Yup, swap is a Linux tool, used to augment the existing RAM, by using a partition on a disk to store less required pages from the RAM in that partition. It is slower than RAM, and dependant on your sdcard IOPS (read and write speed).
ZRam would be better, but that's up to a kernel dev to implement.
Whatever happens though, these features are just to improve multitasking, rather than loading large games and giving the device a speed boost.
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