This roud of android phones... - General Questions and Answers

Im unsure which phone to get, I was wanting the atrix but I know moto's locked bootloader causing problems and hate moto blur so maybe the lg x2...but then the samsung galaxy s2 looks better. What about hardware, which is beter orion with mali or tegra?
I also liked the idea of the webtop on the atrix, but that bootloader would mean no custom roms?
What about dev support etc?
Edit - With the ipad2 wiping the floor with tegra 2 (meaning the iphone 5 will have a similar setup) ...are these phones doa hardware wise?

for now it seems like next round with similar performance of soc's will be apple a5 , qualcomm with adreno220 , and samsung orion when they get proper drivers . im not familiar with the texas instruments front but im sure they'll have something sooner or later . that said tegra 2 is a great deal behind all of these .

I'm not sure about the dev community for each phone but I'd pick the Atrix if AT&T ever unlocks the full speed it can go.

souljaboy said:
for now it seems like next round with similar performance of soc's will be apple a5 , qualcomm with adreno220 , and samsung orion when they get proper drivers . im not familiar with the texas instruments front but im sure they'll have something sooner or later . that said tegra 2 is a great deal behind all of these .
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Are you sure on this? I thought the ipad2 destroys the xoom (tegra2)?
I just dont know between the
moto atrix
samsung galaxy s2
lg x2

I Am Marino said:
I'm not sure about the dev community for each phone but I'd pick the Atrix if AT&T ever unlocks the full speed it can go.
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I wanted to atrix originally (dual core, 1gb of ram! nice!) but I loved the idea of webtop...now I hear people have replaced webtop with ubuntu! Which would mean we could use not only firefox, but utorrent, nzbs etc! But, like I said before, the locked bootloader is a *****. Which, might be the reason a lot of chefs from xda (and I hear cyanogen) is getting the lg x2.
But i think da_g has an atrix, no love for sam gs2?

fracmo2000 said:
Are you sure on this? I thought the ipad2 destroys the xoom (tegra2)?
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thats what i said , tegra2 is left behind by those .. the humming bird wasnt so far off from tegra in the first place so it shouldnt be a wild guess to say its next gen samsung is better than it by a great deal

souljaboy said:
thats what i said , tegra2 is left behind by those .. the humming bird wasnt so far off from tegra in the first place so it shouldnt be a wild guess to say its next gen samsung is better than it by a great deal
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Ah sorry, I misread your post. I knew sammy made apples a4 chips, so their hummingbird was essentially the same except for a few minor tweaks and changes. However, is this the same this time round, with orion and a5? The orion has a two a9 cores, with a quadcore mali 400 gpu, apple has decided to stick with PowerVR and opted for a dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU.
I wonder which will come out on top? Too early to tell?

here is a some stuff on the galaxy s2
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked
i dont think its on a final unit or running 100% yet (on the GLBenchmark Egypt, a single core hummingbird beats the dual core orion). Im sure the flash thing will also be resolved at launch.

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I wonder which will come out on top? Too early to tell?
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with those two and the new snapdragon , id say they will be close enuff to let you choose by other features and personal brand preference

Yeah, I heard the new htc pyramid has the new 1.2GHz dual-core snapdragon which is paired with the Adreno 220 GPU (as as the ipad2)...anandtech benchmarked a similar spec'd phone here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...rmance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreo-220-benchmarks/3
It comes out on top, but again this could be down to the samsung gs2 not being a final unit? Who knows...but I will be upgrading soon and want to make sure I get the best possible upgrade (will no doubt have to get it over 24months )

that new htc has just been accouned at the htc event in london today!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-4g-official-1-2ghz-dual-core-qhd-display-and-th/

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Any news on the HTC Ace guys?

Hey guys,we've all been hearing and seeing things about the upcoming HTC Ace(along with Schubert with Windows Phone 7),right?Well,we know that it will be similar to the Evo/Leo,will also be known as Desire HD,and will look stunningly cool.However,I am lacking the knowledge of any details.
I heard somewhere that it will be sporting a more powerful GPU that the current Snapdragon devices.Is this confirmed?Also,will its CPU be anyhow better than the current Snapdragons?Because I am between this and the Galaxy S.But I love HTC's phones,interface etc and would be ok if it was just a little more powerful than my Desire.If it's just the bigger screen(which will most probably not be AMOLED) and better camera(I think it will have 8MPx like the Evo[?]) it's not worth it.
So what do you guys think?
They are holding a press event on 15th Sept. So hopefully it will be announced then.
My guess is it will be exactly the same as the Evo except the radio.
wywywywy said:
They are holding a press event on 15th Sept. So hopefully it will be announced then.
My guess is it will be exactly the same as the Evo except the radio.
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Well,if that's the case it's a pity that such a nice device will be gone to waste...I mean,by September/October the new Snapdragons with dual-core processors will be just out of the corner!Why make a phone that can't have the latest and greatest?
I hope the Ace will be available in the US.
I like some of the high-end Android phones but I am on a GSM carrier, so that leaves me with the lackluster options of the Samsung Galaxy S (which I don't really like at the moment) and the Nexus One.
There are 4 amazing Droid phones that I would love to get my hands on, but they are all on Verizon. What is up with that?
At least you are in the US pal!If you change carriers you can get all awesome phones available!But I live in Europe,and more specifically in Greece!What about us here dude?We too are stuck with either Galaxy S and Desire.
*** gloat post ***
I live in the UK and we get pretty much everything all the time. Only thing we lack behind is 4g but I know O2 are testing this in Slough at the moment and reporting speeds of 150meg if rumours are to be believed.
I've even heard in another thread that we will be getting WinPhone 7 before the US should you decide to jump to it....
tolis626 said:
Well,if that's the case it's a pity that such a nice device will be gone to waste...I mean,by September/October the new Snapdragons with dual-core processors will be just out of the corner!Why make a phone that can't have the latest and greatest?
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I know what you mean, but I highly doubt they can produce the new dual-core or the 1.5GHz ones en masse by Xmas...
And a Snapdragon is still an extremely nice upgrade for those of us still on a 576MHz device
wywywywy said:
I know what you mean, but I highly doubt they can produce the new dual-core or the 1.5GHz ones en masse by Xmas...
And a Snapdragon is still an extremely nice upgrade for those of us still on a 576MHz device
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Ah,I know what you mean pal!I owned a Diamond and a Hero before my Desire and the gain in performance is just...WOW!But why not even more?

Samsung infuse 4g

So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
LucasBrazil1984 said:
So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
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I'm wondering the same thing. It's confusing where this device will be supported (hopefully a mod can post a thread for the device if necessary).
Possibly, but man 200 is too much for that phone. Its only marginally better than the Captivate. They should be introducing the Galaxy S2. I would hold out for that rather then jump on this phone. This phone will phase out our beloved Captivate.
Infuse and Galaxy S II
Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
gaston451 said:
Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
gaston451 said:
Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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nope.
it's froyo.
it's single core cpu.
it's 4.5" instead of 4.3"
I would hold out the next few months for the S2. The captivate is still a very good phone.
xredjokerx said:
No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
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Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
LucasBrazil1984 said:
Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
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well the drawback of the cappy is the lack of a camera flash. though the cammera does way better in low light than many phones out there, a flash is nice for the close range shots in near total darkness. like in a club or something. also gsm arena and others are frequently wrong. one of those sites was saying that the i9010 armani had a front facing camera, they basically borrowed the spec sheet from the i9000 assuming it was the same in but in a captivate form factor. right now all the sites are woring off rumors and assuptions. not official specifications
the best assumption is that the processor is at minimum the same series because the orrigonal ad from janurary has the word hummingbird in it. but that doesnt mean the same part number or specifications or that the add from janurary even reflects the actual features. at that time the form of the phone wasnt even final, the battery door hadn't been finalized. then the back of the phone was smooth and now it is textured and looks like the sgs2 but bigger. it is posible specs have changed and maybe why the samsung site and att use the words "powerful 1.2 ghz application processor" without a name or series or description beyond that.
there are also alternatives to the galaxy s coming out with the qualcom scorpion/snapdragon chips clocked at 1.4 ghz(they need to be that fast to get the 3d graphics up to par with our chip because the adreno 205 is not quite as fast as the powervr sgx540 wth open gl). these phones will have 1080p recording and playback, similar or marginally faster 3d graphics and way faster cpu. there will be the galaxy s plus and the galaxy s 2 mini running on this chip (supposedly) so there is even a chance that the infuse will have a qualcom chip of some kind. it should get announces very soon officially. a rumor was there is a conference in nyc with samsung and att today presumably to unveil it with updated/officail specs
gaston451 said:
Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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One's the best smartphone on the planet, the other is a pile of crap that should have come out last year.
What do you think?
Thanks
xredjokerx said:
No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
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Thanks I thought it was a different name for the same phone. I was waiting for the Infuse thinking it was the Galaxy S II. Guess I'll have to keep waiting.
What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
joebw said:
What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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I doubt its the same modem hardware. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.
there was new modem hardware in th egalaxy s 4g so id say there is a slim chance of that.
AT&T to allow third-party apps on Infuse! Changing policy on future phones as well?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20060485-251.html
im gonna go see if i can pre order one today. the phone was announced for the 15th so we'll see.
i can always return it for another captivate. i may regret screwing myself out of a sgs2 but i dont think there is much on that phone i will need to have. i guess i could buy a sgs2 outright if i really get an itch for it. if i get one id rather have the international model anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-infuse-4g-hands-on-0/#4112730
eww! shiney metalic plasitcs! why samsung? why? i may just pay for an sgs2 out of pocket after seeing that!
joebw said:
What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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You do realize the difference between hardware and software right?
syl0n said:
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
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It's not cheap on ebay!

SGSZ (Tegra 2) goes through FCC

Samsung said all along they wouldn't have enough Exynos chips for worldwide distribution but nobody expected an alternate to be used in the U.S. Interesting choice.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/07/06/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-with-tegra-2-cpu-not-exynos/
Edit: All the online rags picked up the SGSZ getting FCC approval as meaning it was supposed to be AT&T's SGS2. Turns out that's not true so I changed the title of this post from its original "AT&T SGS2 to use 1Ghz Tegra 2."
i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
It just shows the i903 model with AT&T bands... but this doesn't mean anything about what chip it has.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Tegra based Super Amoled Plus phone... I just don't see it here other then speculation. It would be perfect if it has quadband HSPA for Tmobile and AT&T.
player911 said:
i don't see how this proves a Tegra chipset over the other???
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The Attain (AT&T's SGS2) is late and the Tegra SGS2 was just pushed through the FCC with model codes that map to the AT&T version of the SGS1. It could fall apart but it kind of makes sense with the shortage of Exynos chips and Tegra being cheaper lowering AT&T's costs.
I will buy European model only....
i9103 is the Galaxy Z.
All the news sources are idiots and keep parroting each other with the wrong info.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
oh yea I saw that. SLCD Tegra 2...
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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jrwingate6 said:
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
Wikipedia lists the SGSII as a Tegra 2 device "in some regions", it's been listed that way for at least the month or so since I first saw it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_2#Tegra_2_series
peacekeeper05 said:
Im sure they will. cause even the old galaxy tab 7 inch already has hardware accelerated browser after the 2.3 Update.
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GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
nraudigy2 said:
GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Well, that confirms it. ATT got the **** end of the stick with weaker hardware.
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nraudigy2 said:
GSM already has a preview. It doesn't have hardware accelerated browser. Still struggles to play 720p.
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Of the Galaxy Z, which is this phone that you all seem to think is an SGS II.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
jrwingate6 said:
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The Exynos has a faster CPU but a weaker dual core GPU
The Tegra 2 has a weaker CPU but a more powerful quad core GPU.
In reality, you probably won't see the performance differences as much as games stuttering. It does do some things well, like accelerated browsing and flash playback. But these things can be duplicated and probably will. It's like Benchmarking Quake 3 on newer ATI and Nvidia cards... sure one may be 15 fps faster, but when your running something at 400+ fps what does it matter? Both CPU/GPU combos are quick. My Nexus One ran Android great.
The reason why I went Tegra 2 are for 2 reasons:
1. All of the tablets coming out are Tegra 2's. So if the next version of Android (Ice Cream) comes out, Google will make sure Tegra's are sitting pretty. With Ice Cream allowing GPU OS components, it will be harder to make sure all the apps work with off the wall side processors and graphics processors.... Maybe everything will just work. I dunno but my logic is that the more tegra devices the more support you'd get.
2. Android is fragmented. Tegra is trying to solve that. They aren't trying to sell a new phones with 1000 different processors and GPU combinations. They are trying to stabilize and pump up the development community. For that I give my support. If Tegra's can become the mainstream GPU for Android, then imagine all the games and apps we'd have.
jrwingate6 said:
I would rather have the more powerful Exynos. Its running a manufacture UI and is still as fast as the G2X running stock Android. Most bench marks also tell me the Exynos is the better chip. I also hope that even thou there changing the chip, it still keeps hardware accelerated browsing.
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The less powerful one did ~4000 quadrant stock.
Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
graffixnyc said:
Would you guys stay on TMO or switch to ATT? Because you'll only get 2G speeds if you use the Euro or ATT GS2 on TMO's network.
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Couldn't wait for tmo sgs2, jumped ship from tmobile/g2x to att and got the euro sgs2. One advantage is att doesn't recognize the sgs2 imei and we can use the $15 unlimited data for non smart phones.
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At least this confirms my decision to pick up the G2x in regards to the Sensation or the US SGS2.
The Sensation was slowest right out of the gate and didn't offer anything impressive enough to pick. The toughest choice was between the G2x and SGS2, Tegra vs Super Amoled Plus.
Now if the Tmo SGS2 has a Super Amoled Plus screen and Tegra 2, I'd use my upgrade for that. But when it finally releases we'll probably be hearing a lot about Tegra 3 phones and Ice Cream.
I might just sit on my G2x for a while and wait it out.
My bad. I started this thread after reading all the U.S. online rags saying the AT&T SGS2 was going to be Tegra. They all ran stories after the "i9103" (the SGS2 is i9100) got FCC approval. Like someone said above, the Tegra phone, i9103, is the SGSZ and the one GSM Arena reviewed. So having been approved by the FCC it might be coming to some North American carrier but it's definitely not going to be AT&T's SGS2.
The SGS2's 2.3.4 update got leaked a couple of days ago and in it a dev found code for AT&T LTE as well as their custom 4G icons for the notification bar. So, based on that, I'd guess they're getting the original SGS2 and it's probably going to be their first LTE phone. They're launching LTE in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Atlanta and Chicago this Summer so I'd guess it'll launch in the next two months.
Sorry I didn't correct this thread earlier, I forgot I posted it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330

[Q] Galaxy Note or Quad Core?

I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
Help? lol
DannyV94 said:
I really want to get rid of this atrix. I love the fingerprint sensor and all that but i think its time for an upgrade. The software on the phone is dying because i think the last update for it just started to roll out on soak, and it is just starting to lag ALOT.
I am either in this looking for the Galaxy Note because it just seems soooooo worth it to me. I would love a larger screen and the Exynos chip seems to do wonders.
Or.... should I wait for quad core phones later? Will the quad core really make a difference? Isn't ICS only optimized for dual-core anyway? I just don't see a need for quad-core other than a marketing gimmick. I understand battery life would be better, but The Galaxy Note battery seems to last at least a day on normal use and that's fine with me.
Help? lol
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Well I would go for the Samsung Galaxy Note (I have had it and the SGSII and your rumors are true the exynos chips are just amazing )
The quad cores sounds great....in paper, they concentrate in doing the phone with better chips but not with better batteries and with what i know right now they would probably have like today phones battery (ex. 1800-2200 mAh) and considering the chips they'll have they'll drain it like orange juice but well they sound great for show off with your friends jajaja
Yes, he's right, unless the scientists develop hydrogen batteries newer and better phones will have more battery drain.
Anyway, the galaxy note is an excellent phone, and huge
I'm fairly certain the Note is using snapdragon, not sammy's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622&highlight=galaxy+note
First generations of something are usually questionable, the Note should be a great buy for a while.
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@dac1227 yeah there are two versions one with sammys processor at 1.4 ghz and one with qualcomm processor at 1.5 ghz
source: wikipedia
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So if I were to purchase one on att network, would I be getting exynos or qualcomm?
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it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
source:wikipedia
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it would be exynos the snapdragon chipset is only for the asian versions of SK telecom, KT and LG U the rest have sammys chipset
source:wikipedia
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Incorrect, but close
The AT&T version of the Note will ship with Snapdragon, as it is the only SoC supported by Qualcomm's LTE baseband.
Hope this helps
Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
yeah he has the truth
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Really forgot that sorry (jejej funny i choosed sprint sgs2 cause it had the exynos processor and not the att cause the lte didnt made this possible jajaja)
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No apology necessary my friend
I just didn't want the OP to go off and buy one thinking he was getting Exynos
Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.
DannyV94 said:
Thanks everyone. Now the question is.... Will there be a difference between the 2 processors? I do like my games on my phone but nothing too intensive. Would the snapdragon at least be better than my tegra 2? I do honestly like the LTE on att.
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you need to compare facts around, so people with a 800x480 display and dual core 1Ghz do not tell you its sooo much faster as snapdragon than tegra2.
If the snapdragon 1.4Ghz dualcore is used on a 1280x766 display the graphics rendering require so much more power to complete the graphics and handle it.
For now i think the only good one is tegra2/3, is you have seen the rendering on tegra3 snowball game, you should be convinced since no other device is capable of delivering that on 720p displays.
but do note, i got both acer and asus prime, and i find both device pretty similar although prime is quadcore, and only seen the glowball thing to utilize it 100% rest is pretty much the same. maybe FPS games do run smoother on quadcore like shadowgun but i havent had the chance to compare it.
if you already got a tegra2 device, wait untill the new fullHD tegra devices appear like Acer A700 device and the nextgen from Asus with fullHD display too.
depends what you need it for dont know if this is true but i herd somewhere that a single core has the worst battery life and a duel core has better and a quadcore even better cos a single core will have all the mhz running on that core and a quadcore will spread the mhz out on all cores thus better battery life in my opinion id wait for reviews on a quadcore phone like the s3
Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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Falsee its just like a car you can put 1.4 gallons of fuel to a 4 cylinder car and to a 6 cylinder car....the 6 cylinder would have more power but it will use the fuel faster its just the same
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not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.
Dexter_nlb said:
not comparable in this setup... 4 cpu running at 20% use less power, than 1 cpu running at 80% thats the simple fact documented for tegra cpu's on Nvidia.com, search and you will find the facts.
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yay im right
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here you go all the facts duel core is sooooo 2011
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-whitepaper-0911a.pdf
this pretty well made my mind up....

Those of you that are waiting to compare the One X to the GSIII

http://phandroid.com/2012/04/25/sam...ynos-4-quad-for-their-next-generation-galaxy/
So it's a quad core based of A9 architecture, not the dual core A15 monster it could've been.
I wasn't going to wait for the GSIII but now I feel even more at peace.
Bleh, too much hype
Yep, people expected too much and now they're going to get disappointed. Even though I think the biggest disappointment I've seen was the 4s after all the iPhone 5 hype. Steve Jobs was so embarrassed you saw what happened the next day...(too soon?)
lol, it was a upgraded quadcore a15 or something, then maybe the gs3 lol
yep it's what i was expecting. so the S4 should still kick butt at least with power management with LTE. that's one of the main reasons i want the HOX, to try LTE. i'd like it to be a good experience and i've stayed away from it because i know how power hungry it can be.
They're saying the SG3 MIGHT get an A15 like the HTC One X did for LTE Compatibility. I guess we'll find out soon...
S8B said:
They're saying the SG3 MIGHT get an A15 like the HTC One X did for LTE Compatibility. I guess we'll find out soon...
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People are just in denial. They never said that the quad core didn't have LTE compatibility. A15 will take a while, even though it'll be available Q2.
EDIT: If it doesn't have LTE it will probably have S4 Krait, sound familiar?
Looks like the S3 w/ LTE, similar to the HOX w/ LTE, will have the dual core S4 chip instead of the quad core chip in the HSPA+ version.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
That's pretty disappointing. I'm tired of waiting for a new phone so I think I'll just pick up the HTC One X now.
Geez, you sound so down about getting a One X
Yeah but I dont want to wait til August when it arrives in the US.
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People are just in denial. They never said that the quad core didn't have LTE compatibility. A15 will take a while, even though it'll be available Q2.
EDIT: If it doesn't have LTE it will probably have S4 Krait, sound familiar?
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
This was posted earlier to a Canadian news site and it could be possible as it did happen to us One X owners. Essentially much like the Tegra 3 they are saying that the new Quad Core Exynos may not support LTE and could possibly ship with the Snapdragon S4 Krait that the HTC One X from AT&T and Rogers is using. I am not saying this is concrete but I wouldn't be surprised. I am curious to see what the end result is going to be.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/26/n...-with-qualcomm-s4-chip-to-ensure-lte-support/
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
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Not really based, they can be compared to each other. The S4 Krait is actually a bit lower than a true A15 in regards to performance. The chip people were wanting was the exynos 5250 (or 5450? ugh too many numbers) a dual core chipset, but samsung wanted the marketing "quad core" brings.
The One X has a much nicer build quality than anything I've handled by Samsung in the past 12 months.
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Isn't the Snapdragon S4 Krait an A15 based chip?
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Almost. Qualcomm made the decision to go with lower power consumption over higher performance, so it is slightly slower than A15.
This means that companion cores aren't needed, and in theory it might be able to clock higher to overcome the performance deficit when needed.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
Knew it, haha.
it goes by tiers guys. americans will have lte high end dual core this year while europe has new low end quad core. then we will have mid quadcore next year while europe+asia have the high end quad cores lol i remmeber iphone having a front facing camera for the first time and everyone here is flipping out while japanese had those since like 2009. its a shame here in america really but oh well we take what we get
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http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
Knew it, haha.
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slegrand said:
This was posted earlier to a Canadian news site and it could be possible as it did happen to us One X owners. Essentially much like the Tegra 3 they are saying that the new Quad Core Exynos may not support LTE and could possibly ship with the Snapdragon S4 Krait that the HTC One X from AT&T and Rogers is using. I am not saying this is concrete but I wouldn't be surprised. I am curious to see what the end result is going to be.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/26/n...-with-qualcomm-s4-chip-to-ensure-lte-support/
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This actually makes me really happy. If most of the new high end and mid range phones come with the s4, then we will see less splintering of apps and games.
so in the US we're only gonna have 3 chipsets? that's kinda fail. Samsung, what is going on guys?

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