I don't know if this problem is Inspire-specific, or applies to Android in general, but messages sent via IMAP from my phone are not stored on the server. Is there a setting I neglected to apply somewhere?
Interestingly enough, I notice that the outbound server settings on the handset don't match my ISP. The server requires port 26, the phone is set to port 25. Also, I see the following folders, which don't correspond to anything I see on my server:
Inbox
Trash
Sent (messages sent from desktop Outook are here)
Drafts
Outbox
[the below folders do not appear on my server]
INBOX.Deleted items
INBOX.Drafts
INBOX.Junk
INBOX.Sent (nothing in here)
INBOX.Sent Items (some messages in here which were sent from desktop)
INBOX.spam
INBOX.trash
Should I just delete and recreate the accounts? Is it possible that this mess has occurred from various ROM updates without wipes, or restoration of TiBu data?
It's just confusing as hell and I need to be able to have copies of stuff I send from my phone. After all, isn't that the whole idea behind IMAP?
Hope someone can help.
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Guys,
I searched around for this problem on this site and the ppcgeeks site, but really didn't find this documented anywhere, so here goes. Please don't flame me it this was solved somewhere, I looked, promise...
I am running WM6 (from helmi/rob mayer) and I use exchange server to sync email to my ppc6700 (over the air).
I've been just fine for the past 2 months, when all of a sudden (lat night) my "sent items" folder does not sync right. (I did not change any settings)
But this is not the common "sent items" goof up that other people make:
My problem is that when I send an email FROM my device:
1. I never get a copy of it in my handheld's "sent items" folder
AND ALSO
2. My laptop (also connected to exchange) never gets the copy of this email in its "sent items" folder.
Just for a sanity check, whenever i send an email to myself (from handheld), I DO get it in my inbox (both laptop and handheld).
And if I send an email from my laptop, it DOES appear on the handheld's "sent items", so that part is working.
Even deleting email from the handheld does delete it from the exchange server. Furthermore, when i delete an email from the handheld's sent items folder, it DOES delete from the exchange server. So all of that is working just dandy.
The ONLY problem is when I SEND email from the handheld ONLY, that the message never appears in the "sent items" of both the handheld and the laptop. (The message does get sent, but the server never somehow retains a copy of it!). This part seems broken.
Of course I have the setting "keep copies of sent items in sent folder" ENABLED and also i have made sure the "sent items folder" is enabled for SYNC on both the handheld and the laptop (its a common setting anyways)
My hosting provider uses exchange server 2007
Any ideas?
EDIT: I went ahead and deleted the activesync relationship and created a new one (this wiped the emaill off the device and re-downloaded it). This did NOT solve the problem. I still can't get the email in the sent items folders...
EDIT: My hosting provider told me they upgraded to the Service Pack 1 for Exchange Server 2007 over the past few days, anyone know if this might be the cause?
Same here
I'm experiencing the exact same issue with a Cingular 8525 with WM6 using a hosted exchange account with Hostway. Items sent from my device items do not appear in the sent items folder in Outook on my device and they do not appear in my sent items folder in Outlook on my PC. I'm assuming that means they aren't saved in my sent items folder on the Exchange server. However, the messages are being sent because I see them quoted when a recipent replies. It's unnerving because I have no confirmation that I sent the email until I see it quoted in a recipient's reply, which isn't very useful for business purposes.
Have you found a solution yet? TIA.
rxb216 said:
Guys,
I searched around for this problem on this site and the ppcgeeks site, but really didn't find this documented anywhere, so here goes. Please don't flame me it this was solved somewhere, I looked, promise...
I am running WM6 (from helmi/rob mayer) and I use exchange server to sync email to my ppc6700 (over the air).
I've been just fine for the past 2 months, when all of a sudden (lat night) my "sent items" folder does not sync right. (I did not change any settings)
But this is not the common "sent items" goof up that other people make:
My problem is that when I send an email FROM my device:
1. I never get a copy of it in my handheld's "sent items" folder
AND ALSO
2. My laptop (also connected to exchange) never gets the copy of this email in its "sent items" folder.
Just for a sanity check, whenever i send an email to myself (from handheld), I DO get it in my inbox (both laptop and handheld).
And if I send an email from my laptop, it DOES appear on the handheld's "sent items", so that part is working.
Even deleting email from the handheld does delete it from the exchange server. Furthermore, when i delete an email from the handheld's sent items folder, it DOES delete from the exchange server. So all of that is working just dandy.
The ONLY problem is when I SEND email from the handheld ONLY, that the message never appears in the "sent items" of both the handheld and the laptop. (The message does get sent, but the server never somehow retains a copy of it!). This part seems broken.
Of course I have the setting "keep copies of sent items in sent folder" ENABLED and also i have made sure the "sent items folder" is enabled for SYNC on both the handheld and the laptop (its a common setting anyways)
My hosting provider uses exchange server 2007
Any ideas?
EDIT: I went ahead and deleted the activesync relationship and created a new one (this wiped the emaill off the device and re-downloaded it). This did NOT solve the problem. I still can't get the email in the sent items folders...
EDIT: My hosting provider told me they upgraded to the Service Pack 1 for Exchange Server 2007 over the past few days, anyone know if this might be the cause?
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Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
2. data traffic counter in WM. Where can I see how much data went over the GPRS/HSDPA connection? In total and in the last session?
Thank you all
Alex
think your imap pickle is more an imap thing then a wm thing as google imap in outlook
on my pc is the same way
2. http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/ a program you can buy
astrbac said:
Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
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You don't sound familiar with Gmail's label concept. Think of each label as a mask, and each message having a bitmap of its labels. You can tag each message with many labels. You label (move to folder) and remove labels (delete from folder) by masking bits.
Delete from a folder (including Inbox) and you've only masked a label bit. If you want to really delete the message, delete it from [Gmail]/All Mail.
Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!
I use FastMail.FM for my IMAP mail.
When I want to sync IMAP sub folders I have to go to:
Menu, Tools, Manage Folders and select all subfolders that I want to synchronize. (to make sure the content is synced, not just an empty folder)
Doesn't GMAIL work the same way?
Quite frankly, I don't see any advantage of use IMAP over pop and not to mention POP is faster and simpler
I see a lot of advantages.
My IMAP servers is pulling POP3 mail from other servers, so I have all my mail in one place.
I always have it backed up.
I can access it from anywhere, and read my mail anywhere.
(from my PC, laptop, Shift, webmail)
I can archive mail to subfolders.
etc,etc..
BTW, you are right about the speed. POP3 is a bit faster to check for new mail. I don't see why it would be simpler.
imap support push
pop3 itself does not
astrbac said:
Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!
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Lately I've been using Postbox on Windows and Mac. It's built from Mozilla code and has similarities to Thunderbird, but it's a lot more stable and a lot better IMO. Also, it makes using Gmail IMAP a whole lot easier.
I've always kept a copy of all my text messages in my desktop email archive using an Outlook plugin from Jeyo. However, after switching to Gmail, I'm really trying to avoid using Outlook altogether. That's why it would be great to have a program that automatically uploads all my text messages straight from my phone to my Gmail account. Kinda like MyPhone but with Gmail.
This is what it would do:
* Automatically copy every text message to Gmail;
* Upload messages from different folders: inbox, concepts and sent items, each to the appropriate Gmail locations.
I believe there's a program for this on the Android platform, but not on Windows Mobile.
I'm just posting this here as a suggestion, hoping a handy developer likes my idea, since I don't know how to do it myself.
Services like MyPhone and Dashwire let you do it to the cloud.
You can use Windows Mobile SMS Sync ( not Free ) / PIM Backup to back it up to your PC and manually send it to gMail.
Another alternateive ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324684 ) I think its no longer actively developed
hope this helps
Thanks for the suggestions. Some of them I hadn't seen before.
I'm already using MyPhone, which works automatically and does very well as a plain backup solution, but I'd really like to keep a complete archive of my correspondence (email and sms) in one place on Gmail.
On the other hand, I'm currently using Jeyo Mobile Companion to transfer my sms to gmail manually. The result is exactly what I want: each message is listed individually and chronologically among my emails. Unfortunately, this only works through desktop Outlook, and I'd like to avoid using my pc as a go-between.
So I'm still hoping for some new developement that will do this automatically and over the air. Such a program already exists for Android phones:
http://code.google.com/p/android-sms/
this would be nice
There's a Symbian program like this as well:
http://shop.psiloc.com/en/Application,262287,Psiloc+GSync
Why should Symbian and Android users have all the fun? Couldn't anyone port the Android version to Windows Mobile? It's open source...
Damn, I wish I was a developer myself.
I have been thinking about this too and I very much applaud the development of such an application too. Everything backed up to one place.
The basic idea is pretty simple, queuing a message to a specific folder on a pop3 / imap / exchange server. Restoring or syncing data from the server is more difficult, I suppose.
Sprite used to have (= not anymore) an application that continuously sent received text messages and calls as an e-mail to a specified e-mailaddress. Unfortunately, however, it was unable to restore from it.
Also, backing up messages for the first time will pose problems. Most e-mail services are capped at a maximum amount of messages per day (e.g. 1000 receive / send)
If you have an Exchange server, version 2010 wil have sms synchronisation features in it.
Cheers
Sprite Archie actually looks pretty good! I had no idea this ever existed. Too bad it's gone.
Seems like it simply forwarded text messages (and call logs) to a specified e-mail address. Ideally, I think a program could copy the messages directly to a specific e-mail folder via IMAP, right?
I see how restoring would be a problem, but I wouldn't really use this as a backup method anyway. I already have MyPhone and Sprite Backup for that.
To me, the main purpose would be archiving. Gmail just seems a natural place to store your text messages along with your e-mails: it gives you a complete overview of all your written correspondence.
Glad to see some enthousiasm for this idea!
This would be a good program, so Im putting my hand up for it as well....
(Hope that if this is done it would be compatible with the android way of doing it, thus allowing you to move texts from one platform to the other)
I've added this as a sugestion to Nuevasync as well, being that the activesync platform does allow for selecting SMS as an option to sync.
probably not what your looking for but i have my phone setup to sync my contacts and calendar through google and i run a program called phone log which puts the text message i reciever in my calendar as an event but through i would through it out there i would be interested in a program that did this though
I second this idea, it's works a treat on my Hero and I'd love to have to my sms's pushed to my SMS label in gmail on my HD2
I've actually found a copy of Sprite Archie (mentioned higher) and it works perfectly fine... At least, it did until I bought an HD2. There, it doesn't detect incoming messages. So no luck...
See also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584610
SMSSyncUp
See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625378
Hi... I've been using the stock Android email client to access my email on a standard IMAP email server and I've never been able to get the emails sent from my phone to sync with the server. I've even tried copying them to another folder which does sync', but they stay local and do not appear in that folder on the email server.
I've just bought myself a Galaxy SIII and having tested the stock Android client on that, I am relieved to report that emails sent from the phone DO appear in the server Sent Items folder.
The problem is how I save the many hundreds of emails I have stuck in the local Sent Items folder on my Sensation? For legal reasons, it is critical I retain them somehow. Even just exporting them to the MicroSD would be better than nothing. Can anyone help please? Thanks in anticipation...
So I setup my s8+ and setup my Gmail on the native email client. I selected as items arrive because I like having up to date email. When I go to delete a message on the S8+ it deletes, but shows a "deleted" sign and next to it "undo". I have since changed the setting to not ask to confirm, it still does it though. Now when I delete an email on the phone, it comes right back after a few seconds, I tested this with my Gmail opened on the website and it doesn't show deleted, however if I simply read them on the phone or mark them as read, it does correlate with Gmail and marks them as read. Testing the reverse, if I delete a message on Gmail, it does delete it automatically on the phone. What could be the problem? I've tried changing the web settings to auto expunge set to "off" and when a message is marked as deleted from the last IMAP folder move to the trash (used to be archive)
Maybe a bit more condensed. Basically the stock email app (s8+) has deleted emails keep popping back up. I have gmail on there with the "auto, as items arrive" setting. Marking as read does sync however., any ideas? Thank you!
My Gmail app has been doing this for a long time while using a secondary e-mail account within Gmail (My hotmail account).
I've never had a problem deleting Gmail e-mails though.
Just to clarify, this is for your GMAIL account correct?
Yeah, I am using the native Samsung Email client on the Galaxy s8+. When setting up my @gmail.com account., everything comes in quickly, marking as read works fine, the issue is when I delete an email, it comes back as soon as I refresh.
I have the same problem. And I think the reason is that your mail provider has the IMAP roth path folder named "INBOX"
But the samsung mail app has it as "Inbox"
This is why it works with Gmail and not other providers.
It can handle the incoming to place in correct folder. But when you delete it sends a request to the IMAP server to delete mail xxx placed in folder Inbox (Not INBOX)
And because there are no folder called Inbox on the IMAP server, nothing is removed.
Older samsungs/Android had both the option to "erase on server" and set "IMAP Root path folder" but the latest version don't
I have several accounts setup in the gmail app. Only one does this, my exchange email account for work. And it's not new and it's not related to the phone. This has been happening for years on multiple android versions and multiple devices when using the gmail client.
With third-party customers everything is in order and even with native problems did not notice.
"Unfortunately the stock android email app has the IMAP root folder names hard-coded in the app. They cannot be changed by user. The app expects the folders to be named
at the IMAP server exactly like this
Inbox
Outbox
Drafts
Sent
Junk
If IMAP-server uses different names the synchronization will not work properly"
So as I mentioned before. If Imap folder is named Inbox and not INBOX there might be problem. And it cant be fixed in other way than changing to a mail app that allows for manually setting the IMAP root folder name to INBOX
Me, too.
rkennison said:
I have several accounts setup in the gmail app. Only one does this, my exchange email account for work. And it's not new and it's not related to the phone. This has been happening for years on multiple android versions and multiple devices when using the gmail client.
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On my S8 phone I have 3 accounts (Gmail and TELUS) plus my Exchange account for work - and that's the only one that has this problem (Junk Folders messages reappear). Thank you for your post. Don't HAVE to have my work account on my phone so will remove it and hope that resolves this pesky issue.