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Why is there no Gmail application (not java based)?

Seems kind of stupid. Even AOL has finally got around to updating their archaic AIM software for Windows Mobile.

one can use the normal outlook on windows mobile to send and recieve mails from gmails though

I do that. One thing I can't accomplish is deleting from the Gmail server by deleting off my device.

you should be able to by "moving" the email to the gmail trash. If you just hit the delete soft key, it just archives it

Are you saying in pocket outlook moving emails to the gmail deleted folder or in the java app?
Neither does server deletion for me.

It works for me.
I "Move" the email into the "Gmail" - "Trash" folder and it goes into Gmail Trash.
Just checked it. It's not in my All Mail anymore

Here's what i use
GMail IMAP connector. Not only does it synchronise deletions it synchronises read/unread as well. All you need to do is enable your GMail account for IMAP, not POP3.

Interesting idea...does that install directly on to your device or your desktop?

Bump for an old thread but I don't like the IMAP method.
Is there any word on getting the gmail app to work? JVM?
I want to be able to search 4GB of mail and find my stared messages quickly like I used to on my Samsung Blade (A900)

Mail Options (FlexMail vs. WM vs. ?)

Maybe some of you folks can chime in here with some discussion on how to manage email.
I own a copy of FlexMail 4.11, but one of the things that has always frustrated me about the program is that it does not integrate with the OS such as being able to directly send a photo from the album via email, and as of this version, it doesn't rotate to landscape. There are other gripes I have, but there are also many upsides, such as the ability to store messages externally, backing up email account settings (for re-installation after ROM updates) and a number of other features that make it very nice.
But I have to say that the built-in mail and SMS utilities in WM have gotten much better and I'm very tempted to use them instead of FlexMail if I can figure out how to store the content on my flash card. I remember there was a registry hack (I think it was in Tweaks2k2 or PocketMechanic) which would manage the reg changes automatically.
Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you can share your thoughts on what options might be better that would be the 'best of both worlds'.
Thanks in advance!

BillTheCat said:
Maybe some of you folks can chime in here with some discussion on how to manage email.
I own a copy of FlexMail 4.11, but one of the things that has always frustrated me about the program is that it does not integrate with the OS such as being able to directly send a photo from the album via email, and as of this version, it doesn't rotate to landscape. There are other gripes I have, but there are also many upsides, such as the ability to store messages externally, backing up email account settings (for re-installation after ROM updates) and a number of other features that make it very nice.
But I have to say that the built-in mail and SMS utilities in WM have gotten much better and I'm very tempted to use them instead of FlexMail if I can figure out how to store the content on my flash card. I remember there was a registry hack (I think it was in Tweaks2k2 or PocketMechanic) which would manage the reg changes automatically.
Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you can share your thoughts on what options might be better that would be the 'best of both worlds'.
Thanks in advance!
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I have never used FlexMail and can't give you any advice on that. BUT I want to point out that it is possible to backup your e-mail account with the WM native mail app as well!
If you just want to backup your account settings, you can do this via a xml file and use Sashimi to recreate your account after flashing (read more here). If you want to backup your account and all the e-mails you can use Microsoft MyPhone AFAIK. Not sure about that though...

MAMeingast said:
If you just want to backup your account settings, you can do this via a xml file and use Sashimi to recreate your account after flashing (read more here). If you want to backup your account and all the e-mails you can use Microsoft MyPhone AFAIK. Not sure about that though...
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Fair enough, though it gets me only half way there.
I found that PocketMechanic will relocate the message store, but it seems a bit kludgy to me, in that the 'today' plugin will force attachments to the internal store, when IMO they should also be on the external (storage card) location.
See the instructions here to see if you come up with the same conclusion with regard to the PocketMechanic solution:
http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/relocate-your-data-with-pocket-mechanic-professional/
Since I own a copy of PM (I'm one of those crazy guys that actually buys the software he uses to reward talented developers) it's no skin off my nose to experiment, but for the time and hassles it'll take until I figure it out. So I'm coming to you folks here for some discussion before I 'pull the trigger'.
So it looks like I'm faced with two choices, neither of which are entirely what I want. One gives me external store of all SMS and Email messages (FlexMail), but some functionality is disabled. The other gives me total integration with the OS (Outlook) but a kludgy and perhaps unreliable method for relocating and storing the data.
I'd be interested in hearing other thoughts, solutions or workarounds.

Anyone? Would really like to do one of two things:
1) Change default programs in WM to point to FlexMail so that I can send a photo via email directly from the camera application
or
2) Move storage for WM native email from internal memory to storage card.

If by Storage you mean only attachments than it's easy. You go to your inbox>options and then select the storage tab. You have the option to use astorage card to save attachments. If u don't mean that I'm afraid that I can't help u. Good luck.

I am using FlexMail and the built-in WM client. I've used them individually and side-by-side. FlexMail isn't too finger-friendly but it's OK and I prefer it. IMAP Idle support is useful to me. Using both clients gets around the problems that result because FlexMail doesn't support some of the HD2's features.
I have problems when I set either program to store information on a storage card. Eventually, something happens and I find I need to reset my e-mail accounts and start again. I think this is because the card isn't initialized in time for the mail programs to access it. It doesn't happen when I first start saving mail to a storage card but it always happens eventually. I now use internal memory but I'm very selective as to which messages I have on my HD2. For instance, I download headers initially and rarely keep more than a few days messages to hand. I use IMAP accounts so my mail is kept on my server if I do need something from, say, last year. I can search for older messages on the server without downloading anything; again, this saves space.

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I am using FlexMail and the built-in WM client. I've used them individually and side-by-side...
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I'd be grateful to hear your thoughts on what you feel each is best at. I haven't used the internal WM mail client much, but I have used FM and have been happy with it. I tried using IMAP but found that there was really no benefit for me, in that I'd want local copies on my home machine anyway (no ISP is perfect) and I can't save a copy of sent items the way we can with Outlook and POP.
My question is that if I use 3rd party apps like FlexMail and PocketInformant, how do we get them to integrate to the HD2 shell (Sense) so that they launch rather than the corresponding WM utilities? This tangentially gets me back to the original question about how to email a photo directly from the camera via FlexMail.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

hi, i used flexmail for some time, a while ago. i stoped using it when i change to hd2.
the only thing i realy miss, is the possibility to put a mail that is stored in one imap account folder to a folders on a different imap account. i didnt mean forwarding, i mean moving it between folders of different accounts.
aside from that i dont miss a thing on flexmail, the programmers are not getting dizzy to mentoin that they are using only ms windows features and functions in the interface. and i belive them, because the programm gives the user a realy hard time to use it. and that is not only on hd2 the case.
after all i can say i have a good time with flexmail but i would not buy it again. not with this interface that give the user the feeling, he is 100 years back in time.
mad

Flexmail 4.11 allows to access (i.e. Send/Receive) : Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, my office emails, AOL IMAP, FastMail, emails through IMAP, emails through SSL, custom port, etc, SMS, etc.
i prefer Flexmail, its much much better.
I installed Flexmail in external Storage Memory. I was accessing multiple emails through it.
After ROM update, and re-installation of Flexmail, i can see all the previous emails and email accounts in the first opening window , but actual account settings inside the Menu > Accounts , all are missing !
Now it doesnt send/rcv anymore.
Is there a way to get the previous all email settings back ?

Bry8Star said:
After ROM update, and re-installation of Flexmail, i can see all the previous emails and email accounts in the first opening window , but actual account settings inside the Menu > Accounts , all are missing !
Now it doesnt send/rcv anymore.
Is there a way to get the previous all email settings back ?
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It sounds like unfortunately you didn't back up your individual email account settings from within FlexMail. You'll have to recreate them. I suggest after doing so that you save the files to your card, so that if you upgrade your ROM again you can restore the email accounts easily.

What really surprises me is that there doesn't seem to be any significant Touch friendly Mail application out there.
Is there anything above and beyond Flexmail ?

[Q] How to sync emails from PC with Android phone (Galaxy S)?

Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a n00b question but I would like to sync my emails from my PC with my phone.
On the PC I use thunderbird to download all emails (got like 6 email accounts) to the pc and delete them from the server immidiately. (I've had accounts beeing hacked in the past because I left password emails etc in my inbox, so I started to delete them from server instead of leaving them on for more security - so I can't just "download them again" from the phone - I will need to sync the phone with the data from the PC. I could switch my email client program off course if thats needed, but I rather not let the messages lay somewhere online.
Can someone maybe explain to me how that would work or give me a link or smth?
It would be perfect if it would work both sides: Either I sync the phone with the PC or the PC with the phone, or a real sync where just the new emails get exchanged. (On the same time I'd also get this to work for my laptop but phone more important now since i got it heh)
I hope someone can help me.

you can't sync with EVERY email client..
it does sync with outlook/OE... I don't know about thunderbird tho. What you CAN try to do is change the settings to never delete emails from your server when downloaded to your computer and then sync so that when you delete them from your phone they'd be deleted from the server.
get my drift?

hmm well im used to thunderbird, but i dont have to keep using it necessarily. I'd change if it makes this whole syncing easier. Its been bugging me for a while that I didnt have my emails on my laptop but now i also need em on the phone.. so I wanna finally get this to work.
The method you described wouldnt work if I somehow download the emails to the phone first instead of the pc, it would work like u described, but if I'd rather work it in both ways, a real "sync".
With outlook you could do this yea?

Try using Gmail or Windows Live mail, its more compatabile with most wireless. Goto m.live.com or Gmail

well, if you use gmail you can easily keep it on both your computer and your phone and it would sync both ways.

Get a gmail account. Then forward all your email accounts to the gmail account. You can also set the gmail account to send out as one of the other accounts.
Setup the gmail account as an imap client in thunderbird or outlook. Create a folder under the inappropriate account named old emails or whatever. Move the emails stored in your local folders to the folder setup under the imap account (you can do it directly to the inbox if you prefer).
Setup gmail on your mobile device.
Say thanks.
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Cleaner Explanation.
1) Create a Gmail account at Gmail.com (or skip this step if you already have one).
2) Log into the web versions of each of your email accounts. Set the account to forward all emails to the new gmail account address (typically these settings are found under the settings or Options menu somewhere on the page). If you would like to continue to use these accounts you can either:
a) Give Gmail permission to send emails as all the accounts or one in particular. (Note once in the mobile apps, you cannot choose different sender addresses, only the default one. You can however change from each address on the web interface).​ b) Set a forwarder and then specify to leave a message on the server.​
3) Setup the gmail account you created as an IMAP account (use IMAP not SMTP) in thunderbird or Outlook.
a) You can find the Imap settings for desktop clients here.​
4) Once the initial sync is complete, simply drag and drop the emails from the old inbox to the Gmail account's inbox (listed in a tree menu under the IMAP.Gmail.Com listing.
5) You can now set up this email address as a SMTP or IMAP (IMAP keeps the emails on the server. This is a better idea in some cases as you have exact copies of emails on all devices you set them up as.
6) Say thanks
You can also manually do this for each email account you have, but that would take much longer and some companies do not allow or simply haven't moved to using IMAP yet (freaky right?).
Using the gmail way, you have all your emails from all your accounts plus the wonders of google. This is the easiest way to do it I can think of.
I hope my explanation is clean and clear.

thanks for the detailed explanation I guess I'll do it that way.
But the downside that you have to keep the mails on the server still stays this way. I'd really love the option to do a real sync how you expect a sync to be but I guess thats complicated or doesnt work?
I mean like.. when I'm at home .. I download the mails from my desktop pc over usb or wlan. Then I download new emails while I'm travelling or smth - and when I get back home I sync my desktop with the phone emails.
This must work somehow? I'd really hate to have to leave my emails on the server since I got bad experience with this.
I guess I'm just beeing paranoid - but I'm also perfectionist heh, so I'd love to try n get it going "the perfect way" - aka a real offline sync without usage of any server storage. (unless you count my desktop as a server..)

If you setup the system to use smtp on the phone it will dowbload the email, other than that i would suggest using a very good password.
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[Q] Android: Saving emails?

I need to find a way to save Emails on an Android phone, no Email client will do that so far as I can find?
My ISP is POP3 ONLY and I'm unwilling to change my email address so don't say use IMAP or Gmail.
I have no problem saving messages on my BB or on a WinMo phone, why can't Android's email client do that? BB has a 'save' option on the email menu which moves the mail to a Saved folder, WinMo allows me to create a Saved folder and move email to it which remains after it's deleted on the server, exactly the same as any email client on a PC so why does Android not allow anything similar?
NOTE: I've set my PC's email client to delete message from the server when they're downloaded, that's not going to change, there has to be a way for the Android device to do that or must I go back to WinMo or BlackBerry because of this one ridiculous failure of the Android OS?

Not sure i'm seeing the problem here. If you want to save your emails just don't delete them?

Same for me. I'd love to be able to make email folders so I can organize the accumulated emails. Having all emails in the inbox just doesn't work and is a pain in the ass.
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I think not possible you can keep them as long as you can

no itry to mush

ruhkh said:
I think not possible
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I believe you're correct, I'm currently back on my BlackBerry as one solution to the problem.

you could try opening a gmail account, sync with your pop3 account and dont tell anyone your new e-mail address

What Robbie said. You can have emails forwarded to your GMail?

Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.

eat-this-cake said:
Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.
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I have set up k9 and tried the archive but it just took the message of the server, how did you copy it instead?

[Q] Exchange functionality in WP7

Hello,
My company uses hosted Exchange Server for about 200 users, we have been using BB for many years, now we are free to go anyway we want.
Questions: When viewing e-mails from exchange account, can we move them to folders and when moving folders, can we type the name of the folder or do we have to scroll to find the one and then tap to move it? Or is there any app/add-on or customization we can get to allow this?
Also, do all folders get automatically synched to phone, or do we have to select which ones? I hope it syncs them all with no questions, especially when a new one is created on outlook.
Last question, is there a unified inbox for all folders, so e-mails in all folders (not just all accounts) displayed in one screen with icons next to them indicating they are in a folder? If not, that's cool.
I am just trying to move from BB to Windows Phone, and trying to figure out if it has the features I use most frequently.
Answers would really be appreciated.

You can move emails to folders. You must select the folder from a list. There are no apps or customizations AFAIK to change that.
All folders don't automatically get synced, but when you select a folder for the first time you get the option of turning on sync for that folder. Actually to be honest I am not sure if it syncs the folder just that once or if it will continue to sync that folder automatically.
There is no unified-folder view.

Thanks for the reply.
Someone answered this question else where with:
I figured it out recently, just click on bottom right "..." and you will see all the options you are looking for, all folders are there and can be selected + unified messaging....
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Is this possible? i don't own a WP7 device, so I can't try, can you check this please? Is this only for unified messaging from multiple accounts?
Regarding folder sync, the reason I asked is because if it automatically syncs all from exchange server, when you create a new folder on Outlook, you would not have to go back to you WP and select it. Is that the case?

Sync folders are not added automatically, you need to do so manually. The only folders synced by default are Inbox and Sent. Drafts can not be synced. All others can be but you have to set it up manually.
The assumed use case is that a user will only have a few folders inportant enough that they want to use the data and storage to sync them on the phone. Out of some 20-ish folders, I only sync 3 on my phone; the rest aren't time-critical. Exchange rules do a pretty good job of filtering the important from the unimportant for me. This way I can turn on the notification for new mail and have it mean something, rather than just have the phone buzzing all day (I get 300+ emails every day at work).

Just to add to this. They are not synced automatically but are listed automatically. You choose the folder then tell it to sync. after that it will follow the default settings for your exchange account and receive emails pushed.
Also you can pin any of those folders to your start screen. I have one for the directors, one for the CEO and one for staff that is always on my start screen.
We are using exchange 2010 at our office and it pretty much rocks. Also IE9 on Windows phone mango fully supports all outlook web mail options. Works great to access the extra calendars like rooms and such.
In your contacts also you can search the exchange server for an address. Exchange support rocks in windows phone.
Also download the emulator, setup an account and try it out. I think that's possible at least as you can test apps on the emulator.
lastly it also follows exchange rules. You can wipe the phone from (even the user can wipe there own) right through OWA on exchange 2010. Also you can set rules to force pin locks and i think although i haven't tried it, limit what the user can do.
Oh and one more thing... it has sharepoint built in. I haven't tried it yet as i just set up a sharepoint foundation server to pitch to the admins once i've worked more on it. That and onenote