Thought id make a thread of smartbech scores (no quadrant please!) so we could see how different ROM's are running with different Kernels. Please list=rom-kernel-freq. and any settings that will help people make choices. THANKS!
Mine,
ROM-Das BAMF 1.3.2
Kermel-Imoseyon 1.41 v.4
Set CPU- on demand
not that it matters much, but why is our smartbench so pathetically slow?
All these benchmarks are bogus, take with with a grain of salt...
magneticzero said:
All these benchmarks are bogus, take with with a grain of salt...
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I disagree that they are bogus, however I do agree that they should be used in context, continuous runs will show averages, if you are honest and are trying to set a baseline for performance and use this as a tool it can be useful. If all you are trying to do is show off, well your only cheating your self. I simply created this post for people to give feedback in a general area as to what Kernel they were using with what Rom and what performance they were seeing. I have not strayed from Das BAMF, but have tried several Kernels. Ijust wanted to hear from others who have also.
ROM- Das BAMF 1.3.2
Kernel- adrynalyne 1.3.2 3a Must say at 1.4Ghz this is very snappy
productivity-1605
games index-1524
ROM- Das BAMF 1.3.2
Kernel- richardtrip 1.76Ghz
productivity-2010
games index-1686
So is there any real difference between Quadrant and SmartBench? Are they just two different scoring methods?
this is bamf 1.3
bamf 1.8 kernel
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So is there any real difference between Quadrant and SmartBench? Are they just two different scoring methods?
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2 different scoring methods but I read a post here some where (cant find it now) about how easily quadrant can be manipulated, for instance disabling stagefright gives higher scores, also it has been my experience that smartbench is more consistent.
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I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!
this is my first android, so i'm seeing how every rom and every kernel can effect the the speed.. but now i'm running sub scores, and i feel like maybe this kernel isn't as good.. i tried flashing back to 4.3b.. but no luck, i feel like there is something wrong with the phone
When you are flashing are you doing a factory wipe, cache wipe and dalvik wipe. That may help. As for the 1700 that is what I am getting on a cleaned stock rooted rom. My phone is fast. Once you get into overclocking I feel it effects the life on the phone, but that is just my opinion.
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Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!
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Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.
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Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.
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very true but some kernels have various tweaks that can inflate quadrant scores...also on the droid x you could blow up quadrant by disabling stage fright. these phones are so fast it's hard to tell the difference. i've tested just about every kernel and overclocked all the way to 2.06 and the phone goes from really fast... to really really fast... to overheating and unstable lol
i use linpack and cpu benchmark to compare kernels and overclock/governor settings...pretty much gave up on quadrant
Quadrant means nothing... If you can run this piss out of your phone and not make it stall... Its fast enough.
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I wipe cache and devlic
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I wipe cache and devlic
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That should be good. I agree that something about that kernel might be suspect.
If you're bored, try the kernel that I'm running. Option to overclock to 1.4 or 1.9 depending on which you select, Good battery life, and stable. 1.4 gets 23XX on quad and the 1.9 gets people 2700-3000. No cheating too.
Here are my results for all three benchmarks right after I killed my Tasks
Im running KC1 and using tegrak Overclock to 1.3
Post what yah got.
btw, I noticed alot of other folks posting up multi-colored quandrant results. Is there another app that I should be using?
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Here are my results for all three benchmarks right after I killed my Tasks
Im running KC1 and using tegrak Overclock to 1.3
Post what yah got.
btw, I noticed alot of other folks posting up multi-colored quandrant results. Is there another app that I should be using?
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Quadrant Advanced provides the breakdown for each individual area (multi-colored).
http://slideme.org/application/quadrant-advanced
The thing about quadrant however, is it's not optimized or suited for the processor in our phones (Hummingbird). It was designed for snapdragon processors.
Additionally, Quadrant is sub par in my opinion on benchmark test apps (even though it's well known) because it does operations that aren't typical. If you get advanced you'll see that it does like 60% all IO operations, however thats a really strange test because it would be like you running a full on database on your phone.
So the scenarios and tests it runs are not representative of the scenarios you are going to use your phone to perform.
I like SmartBench better because it gives you an index for Gaming and Productivity.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G's will slightly outperform the snapdragon/adreno combo that you see in the MT4G etc. Very slight advantage. In regard to productivity it does well too.
Thanks for the info Joe, Im new to all of this and ran accross benchmarks so I tried it. It was something else to do while I await the almighty CWM. haha
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Thanks for the info Joe, Im new to all of this and ran accross benchmarks so I tried it. It was something else to do while I await the almighty CWM. haha
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No worries it was one of those things where I was bummed that my wife's MT4G was triple the score on my SGS4G so I investigated haha.
Yep same here . It's real close from what I can tell.
Ok, i feel this post will be good for all those newbies... I know benchmarks are not really accurate but help me out filling this post with info... Your post should be in the following format----
ROM you are using, version
Kernel you are using,
Set cpu settings, governor, under volt.
radio you are using,
and benchmark snap shot.
I suggest using just quadrant standard... if there is a more accurate benchmark feel free to let me know and we will change the standard benchmark platform. This i feel will help alot and get more interest in flashing different roms and kernels. I will start flashing and posting in the AM...
Since these benchmarks aren't accurate and don't really mean anything, why go to the trouble to test all the ROMs?
Sure I'll play...though I'm not sure how accurate Quadrant is or if this really proves anything.
ROM: Ingersoll 2.5 (all 3 images were with different builds, can't remember which build goes with which pic)
Kernel: Ingersoll - Kernel JV Kernel #7 (2.6.32.28-jv7)
Radio: Stock
setcpu: 1.8 Ghz (I think) Governor: Performance
The highest score in Quadrant I ever received was 3309 but I lost that screenshot in a Flash gone bad.
Just like I mentioned...this is just to eliminate all those newbie questions.
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Hi all, first time posting and sorry if this has been asked before. I am running cm7 nightly and have recently tried the quadrant benchmark and am getting some pretty low scores. I know these builds are not stable but even so the scores are low. getting mid 1600s and I have seen other around 2200. is this just because of the cm7 build? thanks.
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Install this kernel, overclock to 12-1300mhz and try again.
wow sweet! bumped to 1200 and ran a 2000 on quadrant. what's the most the captivate CPU can handle?
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Can't really say much for Quadrant, as I haven't run it in forever, but I run 1.5ghz stable 24/7 on cm7 w/ glitch. Runs buttery smooth through pretty much any app.
I've kinda been out of the loop in regards to the Captivate, but afaik max clock is 1.6.
I heard something about shao doing a 1.8 kernel, but again, idk how true it is or anything, and I'm lax in time, so I can't really research lol.
yea i see the option to run at 1.6 just didnt know if it was safe to do so. I bet 1.5 runs smooth. Thanks.
Quadrant is nothing of a benchmark, the hummingbird kernel isn't even read correctly. On the CM7 forum I've mentioned this before. Basing everything off a quadrant score is complete in the redundant theory, try using a real benchmark, suggestion.
Smartbench> quadrant
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As stated above. Don't put to much into scores. Judge by real world feel. I can show you a Rom that scores almost 3000 on quadrant but runs like crap. Trust your judgement. As for overclocking, it is device dependent. My cap couldn't handle anything over 1.3.
And yes all this has been stated before. A search would have saved you some time.
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I have used Weapon G2x R1 and RG2X MIUI, both with the latest Faux overclocking kernel. I have used both SetCPU and CPU Master. Both apps gain super user access and seem to be functioning properly... however whenever I run the benchmark apps, the results don't seem to be any different when I have the CPU set at 1ghz or 1.5ghz.... it's the same results across both OC apps and ROMs.
The phone doesn't seem to get warm as most people report when overclocking, nor is there any stability issues.
Underclocking does seem to work.
I know quadrant scores don't mean much, but I would certainly expect there to be a difference between the scores at 1ghz and 1.5ghz. The score ranges between 2200 and 3000, but never over 3000.
There isn't any other apps installed on the phone other than what comes with the ROMs.
Am I missing something or is it an inability for my specific CPU to be overclocked?
Thanks in advance.
Try Antutu Benchmark instead. It'll show the frequency at the bottom while testing.
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I will give it a try, thanks. I will report results after.
Thanks, the_king13, it would seem the benchmark app I was using wasn't incredibly detailed in the results.
The Antutu Benchmark app shows some pretty big performance differences when I change between the frequencies.
Thanks!
Glad to be of help. Happy overclocking!
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