I have used Weapon G2x R1 and RG2X MIUI, both with the latest Faux overclocking kernel. I have used both SetCPU and CPU Master. Both apps gain super user access and seem to be functioning properly... however whenever I run the benchmark apps, the results don't seem to be any different when I have the CPU set at 1ghz or 1.5ghz.... it's the same results across both OC apps and ROMs.
The phone doesn't seem to get warm as most people report when overclocking, nor is there any stability issues.
Underclocking does seem to work.
I know quadrant scores don't mean much, but I would certainly expect there to be a difference between the scores at 1ghz and 1.5ghz. The score ranges between 2200 and 3000, but never over 3000.
There isn't any other apps installed on the phone other than what comes with the ROMs.
Am I missing something or is it an inability for my specific CPU to be overclocked?
Thanks in advance.
Try Antutu Benchmark instead. It'll show the frequency at the bottom while testing.
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I will give it a try, thanks. I will report results after.
Thanks, the_king13, it would seem the benchmark app I was using wasn't incredibly detailed in the results.
The Antutu Benchmark app shows some pretty big performance differences when I change between the frequencies.
Thanks!
Glad to be of help. Happy overclocking!
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hi guys!
ive been a week trying different roms and using different kernel OC and I could not get more than 3.400 to 1.4 ghz on "quadrant advance program. " install the ROM last night "infin1ty 1.0.0 RC | AOSP | Netarchy 1.3.0.6" ( 1.4 ghz) with the curious fact that descrption says: • IO Quadrant tweak with this rom achievements to 4.400 in quadrant. attached image to see I'm not lying. if anyone knows I need to do to make this happen with other roms, please let me know. I would like to know the reason for this. does anyone happen? excuse my English!
What the "partition hack" does is creating a separate partition in phone memory to trick quadrant to think that it is running the read/write test on SD card while it is actually reading/writing to phone memory thus results in unusually high I/O score.
This hack does not improve the speed of the phone or anything, it's just for showing off to your friends
If you really want to do it, just search for "quadrant hack" and I'm sure you'll find it. (on my phone now so it's not very convenient to find the link for you)
I'm running infin1ty too. But I've overclocked it to 1.3ghz. My score is 3790.
If you want your best score re-run Quadrant several times in a row without exiting the app. Last night on a fresh load of CM7 nightly without overclocking or hacking I was able to hit over 2600.
Cm7 with matrix kernel
My best score was 4536 with quadrant.
I has a 12,000,0000 quadrant on my mogul back in the day.
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mine broke once it hit 9000
sorry to burst bubbles. quadrant really means nothing. it just compares stock phones vs other stock phones at there current state. not am
4539 on mine!
My best was a 4595
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This post has been edited because I added Mandrobench results because it utilization of both cores. Mandrobench scores were identical for both kernels. Running Mandrobench at 1500 more than once tended to overheat my phone and cause reboots and other signs of instability.
One thing is clear, if you run either Faux or Trinity kernel you must OC at least to 1100 or you take a huge hit on performance.
I ran 4 different benchmarks on every configuration of CM 10 times with the Faux and Trinity kernels. I normalized the results so that each benchmark was evenly weighted and so the numbers are better understood they were normalized so that CM with its own kernel scores 100. All other numbers are relative to that. The 4 benchmarks were Quadrant, Smartbench 2011, Linpack, and Mandrobench. The results are a bit surprising, I am attaching the spreadsheet so that anyone can check my methodology.
CM w/CM kernel 1000 MHz score 100
CM w/Faux kernel 1000 MHz score 77
CM w/Faux kernel 1100 MHz score 104
CM w/Faux kernel 1200 MHz score 114
CM w/Faux kernel 1300 MHz score 123
CM w/Faux kernel 1500 MHz score 138
CM w/Trinity kernel 1000 MHz score 85
CM w/Trinity kernel 1100 MHz score 116
CM w/Trinity kernel 1200 MHz score 124
CM w/Trinity kernel 1400 MHz score 140
CM w/Trinity kernel 1500 MHz score 147
Test for each configuration were started following a reboot with a battery charged over 60%. They were run sequentially the same way for each configuration. Each number above was the result of the averaging a total of 30 benchmarks.
Interesting note, the first couple Quadrant scores on each run were generally lower than the rest, result of caching by the phone perhaps? On certain configurations the Smartbench results fluctuated wildly producing unexpectedly low scores. Not sure what the reason for this fluctuation but it is repeatable, at least on my phone, but only on certain configurations.
This took a long time, I am sharing it because I found the results unexpected and that they might be useful to somebody. Not everyone is dumb enough to sit and run benchmarks all day. Would be interesting to know how close the numbers are ran on another phone. I am intentionally only providing the numbers and my methodology, I will leave it to someone smarter to explain them.
Add Mandrobench to the list... only app that utilizes TWO cores for its benchmarking (free too). Then we'll talk.
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Add Mandrobench to the list... only app that utilizes TWO cores for its benchmarking (free too). Then we'll talk.
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I agree, Mandrobench should have been included, I didn't originally because it has disappeared from the market. I have searched my back-ups and found the apk, so I will incorporated them into the experiment later today. It is my understanding that most current apps do not take advantage of the dual core, therefore the results from benchmarks that are not optimized for dual-core have significance.
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Add Mandrobench to the list... only app that utilizes TWO cores for its benchmarking (free too). Then we'll talk.
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Above not available anymore on market - maybe post the .apk.
Let me start by saying thanks! This undoubtedly took a very long time and it was nice of you to share the results with everyone. Did you use only ext3 or ext4 kernels or a combination of both?
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I appreciate u sharing your results. Just a quick question. was ur battery life changed a lot while u overclocked it. Also what's the difference between ext4 and 3
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Add Mandrobench to the list... only app that utilizes TWO cores for its benchmarking (free too). Then we'll talk.
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Mandrobench was added to my original post. These results were identical for both kernels.
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Let me start by saying thanks! This undoubtedly took a very long time and it was nice of you to share the results with everyone. Did you use only ext3 or ext4 kernels or a combination of both?
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Both kernels were ext4, made much easier to switch back and forth by the new version of clockwork.
Both of these are file systems and ext4 is newer and theoretically faster, probably more so on a computer where there are more read/writes to disc. I don't think any of these benchmarks test for this. Someone else may correct this as I don't know a lot about phones, I am a computer guy, and an out of date one at that.
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I appreciate u sharing your results. Just a quick question. was ur battery life changed a lot while u overclocked it. Also what's the difference between ext4 and 3
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Running consecutive benchmarks can kill a battery in 2 hours.
Battery life is a subjective, I haven't thought of a way to objectively test it. I feel I get the best battery life with CM with its own kernel or Eaglesblood Froyo. Bionix appears to eat batteries.
After seeing these results, I plan to run the Trinity UV11 kernel for awhile and see to see how good the battery life is. The performance increase appears significant for only OC to 1100 and I like the idea of getting the advantages of a little OC/UV without having to run Pimp my CPU.
I have gotten a clear increase (hours more idle time) by simply turning off 4G and only toggling it on when I need it. I use Pandora a lot and it ironically runs better at 2G when I am bicycling (less drops interruptions in the streaming as I move around).
Cubeology said:
Running consecutive benchmarks can kill a battery in 2 hours.
Battery life is a subjective, I haven't thought of a way to objectively test it. I feel I get the best battery life with CM with its own kernel or Eaglesblood Froyo. Bionix appears to eat batteries.
After seeing these results, I plan to run the Trinity UV11 kernel for awhile and see to see how good the battery life is. The performance increase appears significant for only OC to 1100 and I like the idea of getting the advantages of a little OC/UV without having to run Pimp my CPU.
I have gotten a clear increase (hours more idle time) by simply turning off 4G and only toggling it on when I need it. I use Pandora a lot and it ironically runs better at 2G when I am bicycling (less drops interruptions in the streaming as I move around).
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Really? I found that these 2 kernels gave me better battery life then the stock cm7 kernel. Also can you add antutu benchmark to the list?
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Really? I found that these 2 kernels gave me better battery life then the stock cm7 kernel. Also can you add antutu benchmark to the list?
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you are also quoting and talking about a response from 6 months ago which was beginning stages for cm7 on this phone especially kernels lol... Glad you are getting great performance and battery though.
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you are also quoting and talking about a response from 6 months ago which was beginning stages for cm7 on this phone especially kernels lol... Glad you are getting great performance and battery though.
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LOL oops I need to start learning to read dates.. -.-
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some one should run tests again
I tested Trinity vs Faux in AnTuTu and got pretty much same results on charger,but off charger Trinity got about 50 more (6000 off charger and 6125 while charging)
I use UV kernels clocked at 1100.
Switched to Faux because Trinity has bugs like reboot hangs the phone and sometimes waking up take a while. Also boot image and animations are not that nice and boot sound with kernel doesn't even seem to be working.....
Trinity 6004-6120
Faux 5918-6124
CM Stock around 5500
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some one should run tests again
I tested Trinity vs Faux in AnTuTu and got pretty much same results on charger,but off charger Trinity got about 50 more (6000 off charger and 6125 while charging)
I use UV kernels clocked at 1100.
Switched to Faux because Trinity has bugs like reboot hangs the phone and sometimes waking up take a while. Also boot image and animations are not that nice and boot sound with kernel doesn't even seem to be working.....
Trinity 6004-6120
Faux 5918-6124
CM Stock around 5500
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Why are you getting such low scores? Not OC'd maybe? I'm using Fauxs newest kernel and my Antutu score was 7566. Average scores around 7300-7600
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Why are you getting such low scores? Not OC'd maybe? I'm using Fauxs newest kernel and my Antutu score was 7566. Average scores around 7300-7600
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Faux's newest kernel is ~1.5 correct?
He's probably using the Trinity battery saving kernel clocked at 1.1 and undervolted.
I use the Trinity 1.1GHz kernel and undervolt to -200mV (for the lower ones, leave the top three at stock for stability reasons) and I score around 6100 in Antutu.
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Faux's newest kernel is ~1.5 correct?
He's probably using the Trinity battery saving kernel clocked at 1.1 and undervolted.
I use the Trinity 1.1GHz kernel and undervolt to -200mV (for the lower ones, leave the top three at stock for stability reasons) and I score around 6100 in Antutu.
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That makes sense. I just did a benchmark @1.1ghz and I got 6007. Ya the Faux kernel max is @1.5ghz. Its undervolted too, not much, just enough to get great battery life.
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I said in post that I use UV kernels clocked at 1100mhz
I now use Trinity Kernel because Faux did not have 216Mhz option in SetCPU. I also UVed by -25 for now and set charging profile to 400+ Mhz to avoid SoD
I wonder whats the difference in battery life if you use 1100Mhz or 1500Mhz ?
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I said in post that I use UV kernels clocked at 1100mhz
I now use Trinity Kernel because Faux did not have 216Mhz option in SetCPU. I also UVed by -25 for now and set charging profile to 400+ Mhz to avoid SoD
I wonder whats the difference in battery life if you use 1100Mhz or 1500Mhz ?
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It's a significant difference. I don't have any data to back it up. But I've accidentally left it on the max after a benchmark and it would be in a free fall. Especially when playing a 3D game like MC3
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I've tried using both Kernels as well as stock. Granted they both seem to run better then stock, I'm currently on Trinity with Standard Voltage, because the Under voltage versions of both Faux and trinity seemed to freeze on reboots for whatever reason. They both appear to run about the same set at 1100 which is what I've set to.
I'd like to say thank you for performing scientific and useful benchmarks!
Hi all, first time posting and sorry if this has been asked before. I am running cm7 nightly and have recently tried the quadrant benchmark and am getting some pretty low scores. I know these builds are not stable but even so the scores are low. getting mid 1600s and I have seen other around 2200. is this just because of the cm7 build? thanks.
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Install this kernel, overclock to 12-1300mhz and try again.
wow sweet! bumped to 1200 and ran a 2000 on quadrant. what's the most the captivate CPU can handle?
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Can't really say much for Quadrant, as I haven't run it in forever, but I run 1.5ghz stable 24/7 on cm7 w/ glitch. Runs buttery smooth through pretty much any app.
I've kinda been out of the loop in regards to the Captivate, but afaik max clock is 1.6.
I heard something about shao doing a 1.8 kernel, but again, idk how true it is or anything, and I'm lax in time, so I can't really research lol.
yea i see the option to run at 1.6 just didnt know if it was safe to do so. I bet 1.5 runs smooth. Thanks.
Quadrant is nothing of a benchmark, the hummingbird kernel isn't even read correctly. On the CM7 forum I've mentioned this before. Basing everything off a quadrant score is complete in the redundant theory, try using a real benchmark, suggestion.
Smartbench> quadrant
Sent from I'm sure glad Danger went under, else I'd still be on a Mr.Cartoon SK2.
As stated above. Don't put to much into scores. Judge by real world feel. I can show you a Rom that scores almost 3000 on quadrant but runs like crap. Trust your judgement. As for overclocking, it is device dependent. My cap couldn't handle anything over 1.3.
And yes all this has been stated before. A search would have saved you some time.
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Has anyone used any kernels for HTC Sensation 4g (TMO US) above 1.566Ghz?
I am currently using a ROM by Mike1986 and kernel witch took my phone to 1.566Ghz and i am loving it.
However, i am a big OC freak and i would like some pointers on any tested kernels above 1.566Ghz, preferably that work well with Mike1986's ROM as i find them to be most stable our of all i have tried (i have tried 3 different types).
Any input is highly appreciated and welcome. Thanks team.
dronepro said:
Has anyone used any kernels for HTC Sensation 4g (TMO US) above 1.566Ghz?
I am currently using a ROM by Mike1986 and kernel witch took my phone to 1.566Ghz and i am loving it.
However, i am a big OC freak and i would like some pointers on any tested kernels above 1.566Ghz, preferably that work well with Mike1986's ROM as i find them to be most stable our of all i have tried (i have tried 3 different types).
Any input is highly appreciated and welcome. Thanks team.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
I honestly don't see the benefits except lower battery life and a warmer device, I doubt you'll notice the speed difference past like 1GHz. All of the higher freqs seem pretty much the same and aren't really worth the bother with, use a governor that accesses higher freqs quicker and you won't be needing high freqs.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
I honestly don't see the benefits except lower battery life and a warmer device, I doubt you'll notice the speed difference past like 1GHz. All of the higher freqs seem pretty much the same and aren't really worth the bother with, use a governor that accesses higher freqs quicker and you won't be needing high freqs.
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What governor would you suggest??? also, i know that when using you phone and maybe even playing games i wouldn't see much of a difference between the stock 1.2 Ghz vs 1.5 or 1.9Ghz but it's all about the bragging rights, lol. I like to go to my geeky friends and slappin’ a higher clock frequency than they have on their poor devices or silly I Phones. Also I have to tell you from my tests I do see Mike1986’s latest 3.6.7/4.1.7 Rom using much less battery life than stock Rom. I have noticed about a 10% improvement, maybe even more.
Also i do see a big improvement in Benchmarks. When i was using stock 1.2Ghz setting i was benchmarking much lower than the 1,5Ghz i am at now.
Thanks again for the input.
The benefit of custom ROMS and kernels, is that they are optimized to run well. Unless the chef sucks, most big name ROMS are optimized and more efficient.
I was running 1.2ghz for a while and whenever I'm playing Snes roms it would FC. After bumping it up to 1.72ghz it never did it again. Although 1.72ghz may be overkill for what I use my phone for but everything seems to be running extremely smooth.
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What governor would you suggest??? also, i know that when using you phone and maybe even playing games i wouldn't see much of a difference between the stock 1.2 Ghz vs 1.5 or 1.9Ghz but it's all about the bragging rights, lol. I like to go to my geeky friends and slappin’ a higher clock frequency than they have on their poor devices or silly I Phones. Also I have to tell you from my tests I do see Mike1986’s latest 3.6.7/4.1.7 Rom using much less battery life than stock Rom. I have noticed about a 10% improvement, maybe even more.
Also i do see a big improvement in Benchmarks. When i was using stock 1.2Ghz setting i was benchmarking much lower than the 1,5Ghz i am at now.
Thanks again for the input.
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I use conservative(810/192), super charger v6, ultra smooth rosie on 4.1.6. I haven't used benches, but they'll be low on this ROM since I'm assuming it's based on the Sense 3.5 leak for sensation.
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I was running 1.2ghz for a while and whenever I'm playing Snes roms it would FC. After bumping it up to 1.72ghz it never did it again. Although 1.72ghz may be overkill for what I use my phone for but everything seems to be running extremely smooth.
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What Kernel is this? Can you provide a LINK?? thanks.
Thanks again to all for the imput.
Hi, i have searched the forums, but haven't been able to find an answer, simply put i don't believe my xoom is overclocking. I have been testing it with an app called neocore, but have tried quadrant as well. It doesn't matter if i am at 1000 or 1700 Neocore always says that my xoom runs at between 34-36 fps, which is the same as when it was bonestock, quadrant is the same. No change in animation speed or results no matter what i have set the clock too. I currently have eos nightly 77 for 4g on my xoom, I was using the stock kernel that came with the rom, and recently downloaded the.3.0.5 tiamat overclock kernel, which after flashing think it was the same(I am a noob). I was originally trying to use android overclock to adjust my settings, now have completely uninstalled it and using eos's settings, no change. What am i doing wrong, or have missed?
Thanks for any help you can give me
For increased smoothness in animation, etc, I believe it is the overclocked gpu that helps as opposed to the cpu. Not all the eos kernels are overclocked. Quadrant score appears to be meaningless. Believe me, the eos kernels permit overclocking. What governor are you using? Is your setting stable?
I have it currently at interactive, after you mentioned the governer, i put it to performance and ran the neocore benchmark to see what would happen, 38.2. Well if it requires a gpu overclock that would make sense that i am not noticing a difference with the apps i am using. But raises another question,what is a overclocked cpu good for? More apps running at once? My overclock is ALLOT more stable with 77, i was previously on 74. Before it would get glitchy allot more often, and random reboots on anything above 1000. 1400 and i was having to watch the temperature, 1500 seemed to work the best, but still got random reboots (still better than what I got on honeycomb. I still get glitches here and there on 77, but still have yet to get a.random reboot.
Unrelated to my topic, thank you so much for your guide to rooting and romming, i had read a couple others and hemmed and hawed about whether to do it, even though my mouth watered about the benefits, your guide made me clap my hands together and say "let's do this"
I went back over the kernel I downloaded and flashed, it is the team tiamat overclocked gpu 3.0.5 kernel that was realeased 2/19/2012... sorry, this stuff is new to me so I am learning as i go along
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I went back over the kernel I downloaded and flashed, it is the team tiamat overclocked gpu 3.0.5 kernel that was realeased 2/19/2012... sorry, this stuff is new to me so I am learning as i go along
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No problem...the EOS nightlies are on a newer kernel, but I think the lastest don't have oc gpus.