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Besides LAN internet tethering what benefit is 4G? GO!

Don’t say YouTube or blockbuster because both of those stream completely smooth at highest quality on 3G. Don’t say downloading apps as apps for these phones are so small they are are still downloadable in under a min on 1x. Don’t say uploading pics to facebook as that is very fast on 1x too.
Come on... No BS! No crazy hypothetical’s... We all do the same stuff all day, we browse facebook, we check email, we send text messages, and we download apps...
I understand this kind of thing in the PC world were speed is the only factor. But here it’s not. We are talking about downloading an ap in 20 seconds as opposed to 50 seconds... yet it costs you 3 hours of battery life to leave your phone in 4g to do it....
I just don’t understand.... Can someone please explain it to me? I don’t see any possible explanation.. Just give me one single valid usage example...!

HawkStream said:
Don’t say YouTube or blockbuster because both of those stream completely smooth at highest quality on 3G. Don’t say downloading apps as apps for these phones are so small they are are still downloadable in under a min on 1x. Don’t say uploading pics to facebook as that is very fast on 1x too.
Come on... No BS! No crazy hypothetical’s... We all do the same stuff all day, we browse facebook, we check email, we send text messages, and we download apps...
I understand this kind of thing in the PC world were speed is the only factor. But here it’s not. We are talking about downloading an ap in 20 seconds as opposed to 50 seconds... yet it costs you 3 hours of battery life to leave your phone in 4g to do it....
I just don’t understand.... Can someone please explain it to me? I don’t see any possible explanation.. Just give me one single valid usage example...!
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I do agree you could do most of what you do on 4g on 3g easily and I could live with 3g. I really don't know why you are in love with 1x, I could not stand 1x, webpages took over a minute to download. Please stop praising 1x, I do agree 3g is plenty fast for everyday task. I am not sure about streaming HQ on 3g, verizon 3g is pretty damn slow when everyone is on it, unless you live in a small city.

nkd said:
I do agree you could do most of what you do on 4g on 3g easily and I could live with 3g. I really don't know why you are in love with 1x, I could not stand 1x, webpages took over a minute to download. Please stop praising 1x, I do agree 3g is plenty fast for everyday task.
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I’m only praising 1X because of what it can teach us.. And really… some Webpages took over a min to load on 1x..? I find that not believable. What webpages? 1x is still like 1mbps... I don’t know of really any webpage that would take that long to load at that speed.
This brings me back to my point. These are still f'ing phones!! Howe many of you are farmers out in the middle of fields trying to pull up NASA Auto CAD files on your Thunderbolts?!!?
Almost all of us have computers on networks all around us.. I really can’t think of ANYTHING we could possible need to do on these phones that 3G is not fast enough for (let alone 1x)...

nkd said:
I do agree you could do most of what you do on 4g on 3g easily and I could live with 3g. I really don't know why you are in love with 1x, I could not stand 1x, webpages took over a minute to download. Please stop praising 1x, I do agree 3g is plenty fast for everyday task. I am not sure about streaming HQ on 3g, verizon 3g is pretty damn slow when everyone is on it, unless you live in a small city.
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Hey not so fast, I'm in a city of 50k people, that counts as pretty small, and I get crappy speeds too, youtube is not fast for me at all, takes over 30 seconds to start a video, and it needs to stop to buffer every 40-60 seconds usually, and web pages that aren't mobile take 10-20 seconds to load plenty of the time even inf full strong signal places, I'm talking like -54 to -58dbm places. I see a ton of people saying pages load instantly for them and that youtube high quality videos play instantly and never need to buffer, but it's not the case for me, and I know others with the same issue, clearly 3g is not universally fast enough for these basic tasks and to call those reasons bs is just ignorant.

HawkStream said:
I’m only praising 1X because of what it can teach us.. And really… some Webpages took over a min to load on 1x..? I find that not believable. What webpages? 1x is still like 1mbps... I don’t know of really any webpage that would take that long to load at that speed.
This brings me back to my point. These are still f'ing phones!! Howe many of you are farmers out in the middle of fields trying to pull up NASA Auto CAD files on your Thunderbolts?!!?
Almost all of us have computers on networks all around us.. I really can’t think of ANYTHING we could possible need to do on these phones that 3G is not fast enough for (let alone 1x)...
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1x is actually limited to about 144kbps up and down I believe. Go to the 1x speed test forums from people stuck on it and see for yourself, no clue where in your imaginary world 1x is 1mbps.
Try loading www.adovcate.com and tell me how long it takes you, I just did and it took 59 seconds to get to it having enough to be useable and another 10-12 seconds to fully download. I just did a speed test and has .74mbps down, which is within verizon's claims of 600kbps-1400kbps for 3g down speeds, fully acceptable. Now tell me how amazing 3G is if I am running at 3g speeds and it takes over 1 minute to load a simple webpage that takes firefox on my dorm internet 3 seconds?

Why do we need 1GB of ram? Dual Cores? These types of questions have been asked for centuries. The answer to all of them, because you should! I like having the extra speed on the task that I do on my phone on a daily bases. Browsing the net is faster, downloads are faster, buffering time is lower.
It's a new technology, and I think people are expecting too much in terms of battery life. It's a 1st generation LTE device, where not only is the technology on the phone new, but the network is relatively small. It was like EV-DO devices, you didn't really need them at the time. Their battery life was horrible when it was constantly searching for signal that you probably didn't use.
I don't really understand why anyone would buy a 4g device, then question the necessity of it. You can do everything on 1x, EV-DO, and LTE just the same as they all lead you to the same place. However, how much longer will each take?

ben7337 said:
1x is actually limited to about 144kbps up and down I believe. Go to the 1x speed test forums from people stuck on it and see for yourself, no clue where in your imaginary world 1x is 1mbps.
Try loading www.adovcate.com and tell me how long it takes you, I just did and it took 59 seconds to get to it having enough to be useable and another 10-12 seconds to fully download. I just did a speed test and has .74mbps down, which is within verizon's claims of 600kbps-1400kbps for 3g down speeds, fully acceptable. Now tell me how amazing 3G is if I am running at 3g speeds and it takes over 1 minute to load a simple webpage that takes firefox on my dorm internet 3 seconds?
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Dude I dont know what you are talking about.. I'm on 3G and just wnt to that site and it took 8 seconds to load...!
And thats not a lie... push me on it and I will do a video showing that. You are nuts or have a really messed up phone.

HawkStream said:
Dude I dont know what you are talking about.. I'm on 3G and just wnt to that site and it took 8 seconds to load...!
And thats not a lie... push me on it and I will do a video showing that. You are nuts or have a really messed up phone.
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Weird, I am on my phone now on xda and even the forum takes 15 to 40 seconds to load a page, and that's time with the up and down arrows on 3g lit, the advocate site was mostly time with the browser sitting saying it is loading and not doing anything but still 20 or 30 seconds was active downloading. Not sure why it is so much faster for you on your phone than on my droid 2 global but I don't think my phone is messed up and even if it was there is no way to prove or verify that it is, verizon people would laugh me out of the store.

4g allows simultaneous voice and data
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packruler said:
4g allows simultaneous voice and data
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That is done on the 3G network, nothing to do with lte
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EDD Skitz said:
That is done on the 3G network, nothing to do with lte
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Yep. It's done 3g via rev. A and rev. B bands

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HawkStream said:
Dude I dont know what you are talking about.. I'm on 3G and just wnt to that site and it took 8 seconds to load...!
And thats not a lie... push me on it and I will do a video showing that. You are nuts or have a really messed up phone.
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Took me 7 seconds on 3g but I think he misspelled it. So I did advocate.com instead of adovcate.com and the page had alot more data to load but still completely loaded in about 17 seconds (cm7 stock browser)
Edit: Said he had .74mbps speed so maybe that's the factor there as I am getting 2.3mbps on 3g.
And for the original question, .....I am very impatient. When I hit enter I want it done. Try eating ice cream but make yourself take a minute before the spoon gets to your mouth.
3G is plenty fast no doubt, but faster is better.
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ben7337 said:
1x is actually limited to about 144kbps up and down I believe. Go to the 1x speed test forums from people stuck on it and see for yourself, no clue where in your imaginary world 1x is 1mbps.
Try loading www.adovcate.com and tell me how long it takes you, I just did and it took 59 seconds to get to it having enough to be useable and another 10-12 seconds to fully download. I just did a speed test and has .74mbps down, which is within verizon's claims of 600kbps-1400kbps for 3g down speeds, fully acceptable. Now tell me how amazing 3G is if I am running at 3g speeds and it takes over 1 minute to load a simple webpage that takes firefox on my dorm internet 3 seconds?
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It took me 7 seconds to load this website completely on 3g.nn
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Oops website was misspelled.. advocate.com took 17 seconds to completely load using Dolphin beta...
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3g is fine for me but 1x is too slow. 4g is much faster but until they solve the battery drain issue, I will be on 3g most of the time.
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Am I the only one sick of these threads? 4G if awesome because I can watch sling box in full hq without any buffering times and download full movies to my phone in minutes instead of hours.
Those saying they dont need 4g, go back to your pentium 2 processor with 128mbs of ram and tell me why you like multiple core cpus and triple channel ram...
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HawkStream said:
I’m only praising 1X because of what it can teach us.. And really… some Webpages took over a min to load on 1x..? I find that not believable. What webpages? 1x is still like 1mbps... I don’t know of really any webpage that would take that long to load at that speed.
This brings me back to my point. These are still f'ing phones!! Howe many of you are farmers out in the middle of fields trying to pull up NASA Auto CAD files on your Thunderbolts?!!?
Almost all of us have computers on networks all around us.. I really can’t think of ANYTHING we could possible need to do on these phones that 3G is not fast enough for (let alone 1x)...
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Sorry but your being unreasonable and only considering your personal habits apply to everyone else in the nation. You must be the lucky top 1 percent of the top 1 percent for 1X speeds because I couldn't get anything done on that slow junk. Not to mention for me 1X was going in and out, the network was in bad shape.
For those in the big city like myself, we were like 10,000 pigs fighting to get fed by one skinny momma pig.
Anyone smell a troll in the room?
I was trying to refrain from cutting down Verizon and giving them a hard time (this is my first post to actually give my opinion on the situation) but your post makes me want to let Verizon know this is in no way acceptable. I asked Verizon if I could go back to old 3g via 778 and their response was no don't it will mess up authentication on your phone....so they wanted me to stay on slow 1X, according to Verizon's rules, protocol or whatever we were all to stay on 1X.
This is XDA FYI

Just wondering, are you affiliated with Verizon?

inzandity said:
Am I the only one sick of these threads? 4G if awesome because I can watch sling box in full hq without any buffering times and download full movies to my phone in minutes instead of hours.
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I've watched both NHL Gamecenter Live and MLB At Bat games on both 3g and 4g and it's not even remotely close to the amount of latency I get on 3g vs 4g. I can stream an entire game on LTE without so much a hiccup vs on 3g where the game will basically scramble the image and put it back together pixel by pixel until it ends up freezing and I have to restart the stream.
Now that LTE is in the two places I am at the most (Philadelphia and the Lehigh Valley) it's no contest. I even have my Bolt in LTE Mode and if I don't have LTE I switch it up to wifi. Both are going to trump 3g speeds a majority of the time (at least where I'm at.)
If I wanted to stay on 3g I would've kept my X (and I loved that phone.) It's all about moving forward.

Oh God please tell me this is all a joke right?
There is no way you can be even satisfied with 2.3Down as a high average when Mine and many others High average is 14 or 15Down. I understand if your not in a LTE then Im sorry but... Youtube on HQ does not load even close to as fast on ANY 3G Network, on LTE I have never had to wait for a buffer.
Downloading MP3 in 2-3 seconds. When I was forced to use 3G yesterday took up to a minute on some songs, Songs now a days are 8-13mb because of increased quality.
Even daily usage, like going to webpages is faster, because... the internet is just faster. Especially flash websites, and watching embedded Flash videos. It used to be so bad that I would never show my phones ability to do embedded video, now that LTE can load a youtube video as fast as, if not faster, than WIFI... yeah I show it of a little.
Tethering, I cannot tell you how many times I have let people use my phones internet because UCF's Wifi was down, or they got poor signal or whatever... Even in my own house I have had to do this a couple times.
Beacuase everything is faster, you use more mb's. This first month, since april 3, I have used 6.7GB's tethering only at school or home for low mb usage. Most of the usage has been downloading mixtapes and stuff since I use the phone as my music player. Youtube also because it loads so fast I have used a lot as well.
Long story short: I was stuck on 3G yesterday, and not just tethering, but EVERYTHING was noticeably slower even opening fb, and I would NOT say that is acceptable in this day and Age, there is no defense for 3G or any 3G only-phone coming out, sorry Inc2. Until yesterday morning I forgot about 1X, Im trying to keep it forgotten!
If you raise the bar you raise the standards.

[Q] OTA 2.3.4 update(Nexus S 4g) Battery, and Signal Strength

Hey everyone, I am enjoying the nexus s 4g(traded in my Evo 4g) but I have noticed some issues started to pop up after the OTA update to 2.3.4.(Build GRJ22). Also I am not rooted yet(for fear i will not be able to receive the next update that may resolve the issue's listed below).
Note I have updated my Profile, and PRL(Next to flashing to another ROM to mitigate the issue's).
1) Battery Charging, after the update the battery will not charge past ~95 percent.
2) Battery Life when idle, before the update battery life was outstanding with moderate usage. Now the device's battery life drops to ~85 percent after being unplugged for 15-20 mins.
3)Signal Reception, yet again my phone will constantly switch between 1x, and 3g even though my SNR, and DB never hits above ~65DB-~70DB.
4)Data Rate/Bandwidth, I was pulling 3-4 megs down/ 1.5 - 2.0 megs up(I live in the Virginia Beach Area) over 3g, Now I get "**** for speeds"(.3 megs down/.25 megs up. Maybe it is reference to the issue listed above(AOSP ROMS in my opinion provide a more accurate display of mobile network connectivity).
To end it I hope I am not alone with these issues?
Maybe if possible someone has a solution?

The battery thing is a means to keep the battery in better shape its not a bug.
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You aren't alone, all of the issues you listed are being looked at by Sprint and Google right now, although like the above poster said, the battery thing is intentional. Hopefuly they figure out what is wrong soon =/
In the meantime, using wifi when possible should alleviate a lot of those issues, mainly battery life on standby.

Many of my battery and network connection issues got mutch better when I turned the wifi to never sleep.
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If your constantly going between networks rider is your battery drain thought there. If it was better before then there is hope your problem can be fixed with another ota
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The data issues you are having are due to 2.3.4 and they are known. google/samsung are supposedly working on it. But I doubt we will see a fix anytime soon if Samsung is fixing it!

Woa, woa, woa. Wait a second, are you saying that going back to 2.3.3 or whatever the previous version was will alleviate all the signal/radio/data problems? !?!!?
If so, will downgrading stop me from being able to upgrade in the future?

gmap516 said:
Woa, woa, woa. Wait a second, are you saying that going back to 2.3.3 or whatever the previous version was will alleviate all the signal/radio/data problems? !?!!?
If so, will downgrading stop me from being able to upgrade in the future?
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nope. depending on the version you are going back to you'll mostlikely get an insta notification that 2.3.4 is available for your device, you just got to ignore it until they either fix 2.3.4 or release 2.3.5.

2.3.4 is already out. If they release a new fix it will be 2.3.5.
And what the post above mine says about the updates.
I have also seen tat 2.3.3 also has some issues with 3g. But the post I read up could have been all lies

rentaric, you did not answer the question as to whether downgrading will address the signal issues...

ronnienyc said:
rentaric, you did not answer the question as to whether downgrading will address the signal issues...
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^ this plx

OP:
When you "root" the NS4G, you're just unlocking the Bootloader, then installing SU/recovery....I do believe you can still receive OTA updates. The only time you can't is when you're running a custom ROM.

12MaNy said:
OP:
When you "root" the NS4G, you're just unlocking the Bootloader, then installing SU/recovery....I do believe you can still receive OTA updates. The only time you can't is when you're running a custom ROM.
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It will install back a stock recovery and it will fail if you alter any system apps other than that the ota will work
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It will install back a stock recovery and it will fail if you alter any system apps other than that the ota will work
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That's why you make a backup of untouched stock ROM.

Hey man, I returned the phone yesterday, and then bought a replacement(same model, but in order to avoid sprint's one exchange limit) With regards to the battery issue, it most likely is hardware related because the new phone running 2.3.4.(Build GRJ22), charges fully and does not have the so called "protect your battery feature". Also while i was at the Sprint Store, I compared the signal strength of my original Nexus S to an HTC Evo, HTC Evo Shift, and another Nexus S 4g. Oddly enough even in the store(which has signal booster's all over the place. All of the phones where around -76db. I am starting to think it is either a hardware issue or a ****ty baseband version. Most likely hardware. Kind of reminds me of the Samsung Captivate i had with AT&T and the ever so wonderful bug with Odin(Orange/Blue flashing screen of death that turned my investment into a paperweight. Also after running the *#*#4636#*#*, and displaying the Preferred Network Settings, I noticed on all 3 phones tested, all devices would switch from WCDMA, to Uknown, to the best of my understanding the default should be CDMA_Auto PRL. Very Strange, very strange indead......... Samsung needs to invest into quality control, before lawsuits start.

Damn! I am on wifi and charging the phone. I just woke up and picked up the phone and started using it. I've experienced that using the phone after an overnight charge, but not removing it from the charger, will make my battery go up to 98%. I just saw it hit 99 and was like I need to get a screen shot of this. By the time I downloaded and installed something it dropped back down to 98. I've never seen this phone hit 99 before today. If it does it again I am prepared to archive it.

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[Q] Higher Data use?

Is anyone else experiencing higher data usage? I'm coming from a N1 on cyanogen and I never went over 2gb in a month to now in about 3 weeks I'm at almost 4gb doing the same type of stuff. On my usage online its showing my phone pulling anywhere from 30-80mb at times when I'm not only asleep but on wifi. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

dbgrigg189 said:
Is anyone else experiencing higher data usage? I'm coming from a N1 on cyanogen and I never went over 2gb in a month to now in about 3 weeks I'm at almost 4gb doing the same type of stuff. On my usage online its showing my phone pulling anywhere from 30-80mb at times when I'm not only asleep but on wifi. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
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Same here but you need to remember they want you to use that data, the whole use dropbox and not having an SD card. It's to get more people on the 10gig plan or so it seems to me.
If you watch stuff you will see it uses more data for the same stuff, I used to stream music using google music on my HTC Leo and seldom every went over my cap in a month. Now it's like in 2 weeks I am pushing well past it. So I think there is something going on. But that's just my two cents. Maybe find an app to track data that isn't put in there by htc or tmob.

In my usage report for the last week, Android OS is the 4th item with 16MB...A little curious, but nothing that would result in 4GB in a month. The rest of the top 10 are apps, mostly streaming music, etc and add up to about 200MB for the week.

Had also a high drain this month. Used over 80% this month right now. With my Desire it was 80% mostly two or three days before the end of the month. Dropbox soundcloud and co. are only sync on wifi...
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I installed my data manager, going to give it a try. I'm mostly waiting on the custom roms to get the kinks worked out, I miss CM.
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[Q] Tethering workaround?

Recently switched to this phone and I use the tethering only on my nexus 7 but recently got blocked. It happened during a ROM switching. Any workarounds?

This work for tethering to android tablets. Use titanium backup, freezing tethering manager and you ready to go. Don't work with windows laptop, i don't try yet with linux system. Of course you need root the phone.

Try Foxfi - installed it last night and it worked great.

Disco Roboto
tthoma said:
Try Foxfi - installed it last night and it worked great.
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Would this work with the Galaxy S Blaze...? Oh, just realized that we are in the GSB questions, so I guess it should work...
(meanwhile back at the ranch)
Errrrr! She's Alive!!! Alive!!! Foxfi worked on GSB rooted, cwd, or (whatever its called) recovery, with tweak 1.6.

An app called Wifi Tether works as well. Completely free. Just choose Samsung Galaxy S2 as the device profile.

merwin said:
An app called Wifi Tether works as well. Completely free. Just choose Samsung Galaxy S2 as the device profile.
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Tried all tethering apps i can. WIFI tether is not working for me. I know foxfi has had some workarounds for other devices so I'm hoping its a behind the scenes fix.
With "Wifi Tether" and changing device profile to "Galaxy S2" Wifi tether does not work
super user is granted then via the log i get
Loading WIFI driver: Done
Stopping AP... failed
Stopping WifI interface... Failed
Reloading Firmware... Failed
Starting AP interface... Failed
Configuring AP... Failed
Starting AP... Failed
Configuring IP-Address... Failed
Enabling Nat Rules... Failed
Enabling IP Forwarding... DONE
Tethering now running... DONE
Then the app appears to be working but can not be seen as a hot spot.
Now to the heart of my question. I've been going threw it with Tmobile. I have been paying for the 10GB data plan since they throttled me the first time last year but this week they switched me to the new unlimited data plan. Now i've been asking over and over again what's the difference if one costs so much more. There answer is "we are phasing out the old metered plans" everything i read says they are blocking tethering. Are any of you on that unlimited plan an able to get tether to work? Thanks for the help.

Try this: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
Let me know how it works.

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Try this:
Let me know how it works.
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Well devil is in the detail. The new unlimited plans (as opposed to the classic unlimited plans) do not support tethering. I'm sure there will be a work around in the future, but for now that seems to be why none of the normal apps were working as they are for others. They have also done away with the 2GB plans that support tethering. so your options are 5GB and 10GB.
With the appropriate plan FOXFI still does not work in wifi mode but "WIFI Tether" works fine as described above.
"WIFI Tether" seems to only work when tethering is enabled on service plan. Took me 3 hours on the phone and 3 service changes to confirm this. Would love to know a work around though so i can save $30/ month

You can go into tb and freeze (I think) tethering provision. This worked for me..
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That is strange as I just renewed my plan a few months ago and got the 2GB unlimited. I tether just fine. My friend's iPod used my wifi tonight no problem. I used the built in wifi tethering on cm10 though. I used this wifi tether app before I moved to this phone. What firmware you on? Stock?

I'm on CM10 current nightly build. If your on the old 2 gig plan from 2 months ago you could have tethering. They told me for the last few days that its not available any longer. Not in the web page any longer either
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browniespeaks said:
I'm on CM10 current nightly build. If your on the old 2 gig plan from 2 months ago you could have tethering. They told me for the last few days that its not available any longer. Not in the web page any longer either
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Yea I am going on my second term with them as well so it could be my previous 2gb unlimited from 2 years ago. Well... lets try and get past it old Tmo. I'll post you a few things, and lets try.
PdaNet 14 day trial to test, there is an option to hide tether as well.
WiFi Hotspot & USB Tethering Another free/paid version thing....
Wireless Tether Older version of the earlier one I posted. Free open source.
WiFi Tether (new one) Try this one again and change the device profile settings to Galaxy 2, generic ICS/JB (wlan0), and generic ICS/JB (wlan1) and see if it makes a difference.
Does it have to be WiFi tethering? Could you USB tether? Also I was reading up around and it seems if you change your PC's user agent to android you don't get denied at all. Check here and here to see how it works and a few addons to help if you still have issues. Hope this helps.

false equivalence
WIFI tether =/= tethering
Everyone who has an android phone should be(read: is) able to tether internet through wifi connection
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What everyone WANTS to do is tether through 4G T Mobile unlimited data.
dispozable said:
That is strange as I just renewed my plan a few months ago and got the 2GB unlimited. I tether just fine. My friend's iPod used my wifi tonight no problem. I used the built in wifi tethering on cm10 though. I used this wifi tether app before I moved to this phone. What firmware you on? Stock?
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danTM said:
WIFI tether =/= tethering
Everyone who has an android phone should be(read: is) able to tether internet through wifi connection
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What everyone WANTS to do is tether through 4G T Mobile unlimited data.
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Did you read any posts here? We all know he wants to tether his 4g, OP is asking alternatives to getting around the Tmo block. Tmo has ways of blocking tethers now and likes to use it. We are trying to find if these apps above trigger the block or if using an android user agent helps. BTW, OP did these work for you? Try the user agent switching on the pc's side and lmk please. Also, does USB tethering work for you?

I found this on another thread, I can confirm it works as intended.
clu1688 said:
i read posts somewhere, removed all wifi tether apps, reinstalled Wifi Tether app by Muller,
chose generic ics profile, then i worked fine.
afterwards, i tried all other wifi apps sgsin, none worked.
so i keep Muller `s app only..
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woodzx67 said:
You can go into tb and freeze (I think) tethering provision. This worked for me..
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I did this too on my stock, unrooted Blaze (disabled the Tethering Provisioning app) and the built-in mobile hotspot works fine.
I don't understand why third party apps are necessary. Does mobile hotspot not work on custom roms like CM10?

Ahhh sorry for the interjection then. I see what you're saying here. Much thanks for the assistance. Kept on reading stuff about wifi tethering not working, and then I saw you post about your success.
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Did you read any posts here? We all know he wants to tether his 4g, OP is asking alternatives to getting around the Tmo block. Tmo has ways of blocking tethers now and likes to use it. We are trying to find if these apps above trigger the block or if using an android user agent helps. BTW, OP did these work for you? Try the user agent switching on the pc's side and lmk please. Also, does USB tethering work for you?
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danTM said:
Ahhh sorry for the interjection then. I see what you're saying here. Much thanks for the assistance. Kept on reading stuff about wifi tethering not working, and then I saw you post about your success.
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Yeah, this is pretty useful to me. I have been having a lot of downtime at work lately and sometimes I want to read an article or go to a site that I wouldn't from my work computer. I can do it on my ebook now and use the larger screen, and it's also a lot more incognito than using the phone.

Tethering Work Around
Im using easy Tether Pro with the Truly Unlimited Plan (No Throttling) You can't get tethering on this plan but it is truly unlimited. Here is a way around the Tether Block. If you use windows you will have to change the string in the browser. If your a Linux User you just instal easytether to your phone and download the Linux Package from the Website. Next turn on easy tether on, on your device, then open a Terminal and type "easytether connect" you can use Chrome, Chromium and Firefox without changing the string.....I mean Android is a somewhat distro of Linux. Your carrier will think you are using chrome from the device, they will never tell the difference. Instructions to do so are on Easytether's Website. This is the best way not have to worry about throttling and be able to tether at pretty fast speeds (Faster than the phones browser) . Plus it was cheaper than my 5gig I was on ($30 now instead of $35 for 5gb)
http://easytether.org/
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Has anyone found away to do this? I have read all post and have tried all fixs dosnt work for me. Please just piint me in the right direction. Really didnt want to chenge from stock ROM.My phone is rooted.

Note 3 KitKat update has completely broken notifications.

Obviously Samsung weren't happy with their efforts to launch this device with a broken email app. They've gone one step further and broken all push notification support in 4.4.
No longer do I receive email notifications, app notifications, or pretty much anything else.
I have to unlock the phone before I'm told that I had an important meeting an hour ago which had a reminder set 30 mind before. Nor will I receive those stupidly funny pictures of cats with bread crusts on their heads on time.
But it's OK, because calls and texts still work just fine. Who needs important emails as long as you have that text telling you to pick up milk the second it comes through.
There must be laws somewhere to protect us against this stuff. Samsung are shocking.

I would suggest doing a factory reset. I have none of these issues. I have multiple email accounts and calendar reminders that never fail to go off unless the battery is dead. Both the first 4.4.2 and the current build (which is much cleaner in general performance btw).
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I would suggest doing a factory reset. I have none of these issues. I have multiple email accounts and calendar reminders that never fail to go off unless the battery is dead. Both the first 4.4.2 and the current build (which is much cleaner in general performance btw).
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I've done 5 factory resets in the last 2 weeks.
Notifications SOMETIMES work for the first 2 days, before they stop altogether.
Doesn't matter if I have a clean start with no apps installed, having all the bloatware disabled, etc. It always breaks.
I've tried just using the normal battery cover as opposed to the Samsung Flip cover, makes no difference at all.
I've also noticed that Cell Standby is top of battery usage regardless of what I do. Tested different batteries, sim cards, forcing 2G/3G instead of LTE, etc, also with no luck. The battery reporting is also way off too. 100% to 50% drains stupidly slow, then after 50% it craters to 0% within hours. Again, doesnt matter which battery I use (all official batteries btw). Wiped everything via recovery, nothing works.
Am I just one of the victims of 4.4.2? Because I'm starting to think the phone itself is broken.
Also worth mentioning that its only a few weeks old, so 4.3 hasnt been tested, and now obviously I can't go back due to the bootloader update.
My note 2 runs beautifully on both 4.3 and 4.4

I would take your reset one step further and flash the current firmware via Odin. The factory flash you have might be corrupt. Not likely but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it.
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Whatever your situation is it's your situation. I've been on 4.4 since a leak was released in January and haven't had any of the issues you're describing. The Gear is dependent on device notifications for its feed so its forum would be lit up like a Christmas tree if what you're describing were common. I can't imagine it's h/w related because there's no specific component that would touch the things affecting you. From what you said, I'm assuming your device is receiving whatever's supposed to trigger the notification but you're not being alerted when it arrives/occurs. That sounds like an app conflict or problem in settings.

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Whatever your situation is it's your situation. I've been on 4.4 since a leak was released in January and haven't had any of the issues you're describing. The Gear is dependent on device notifications for its feed so its forum would be lit up like a Christmas tree if what you're describing were common. I can't imagine it's h/w related because there's no specific component that would touch the things affecting you. From what you said, I'm assuming your device is receiving whatever's supposed to trigger the notification but you're not being alerted when it arrives/occurs. That sounds like an app conflict or problem in settings.
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Strangely enough, notifications work fine when paired with the Galaxy Gear I got free with it. I just rarely use it due to the nature of my workplace.
I probably should have added, the notifications only come through a few seconds after the phone is unlocked. You can visibly see the phone begin to access the network via the icon, and once it downloads, notifications pop.
And worth mentioning that this happens regardless of wifi access point, and on both 2G/3G and on LTE.

arcanexvi said:
I would take your reset one step further and flash the current firmware via Odin. The factory flash you have might be corrupt. Not likely but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it.
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I'll give that a go thanks.
I know you say it's unlikely, but I've tried for hours to find people that have the same issues as me, with no luck. Here's hoping it's just one of those rare cases.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760935
I posted the firmware a week or so ago. That's the build that was just released.
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Mine doesn't do this. In fact mine is the opposite, it checks my email more often than what I set it to, kind of annoying.
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arcanexvi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760935
I posted the firmware a week or so ago. That's the build that was just released.
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Thanks but I'm running the international version.
Decided to bite the bullet and use the latest NE3/NE4 update from Asia, as a few people have reported it to be fine for the n9005 model it was intended for. I can always flash back later.
Will update in due course if anything helps my situation.

I had the same problem with WhatsApp notification
And I figured out that was happening because I hibernated google play store app

Just a quick message to say that the NE3 build seems to have fixed my cell standby issue, but ofcourse this is more than likely down to the full odin flash.
Hopefully it stays that way. Will test notifications during my work day tomorrow.
Yet another thing I forgot to add. Notifications have always worked properly when there is music playing to an external device. I assume this is down to the fact that the phone is always awake, and not in deep sleep like it normally is.
Android system and Android OS are both firmly back at the top of my battery usage as per the 4.4.2 norm. Strangely though I can't get the screen usage up at all.

weird. I have had 0 problems with NE3. Are you sure that you didn't greenify \ deactivate \appops stuff you shouldn't ?
i would love to have cell standby up on top as opposed to Android OS \ Android system though i did see a big leap in standby battery life comming to NE3 from ND3 and they were still on top.

istrikerx said:
Strangely enough, notifications work fine when paired with the Galaxy Gear I got free with it. I just rarely use it due to the nature of my workplace.
I probably should have added, the notifications only come through a few seconds after the phone is unlocked. You can visibly see the phone begin to access the network via the icon, and once it downloads, notifications pop.
And worth mentioning that this happens regardless of wifi access point, and on both 2G/3G and on LTE.
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fookea said:
weird. I have had 0 problems with NE3. Are you sure that you didn't greenify \ deactivate \appops stuff you shouldn't ?
i would love to have cell standby up on top as opposed to Android OS \ Android system though i did see a big leap in standby battery life comming to NE3 from ND3 and they were still on top.
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NE3 seems to be significantly better than the ND6 build I was originally on. I can't judge battery life as ND6 was completely broken where tracking battery health, charge, etc was concerned. But I will say that it seems much more accurate.
So far notifications are working flawlessly while I have my flip cover installed. Hopefully it lasts.