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Rebooting may be a hardware problem

First g2x rebooted constantly. Froze up on charger. Required battery pull.
New g2x hasn't rebooted yet. Same SIM card.
My guess is that if yours reboots you got a dud and should exchange it.

strung said:
First g2x rebooted constantly. Froze up on charger. Required battery pull.
New g2x hasn't rebooted yet. Same SIM card.
My guess is that if yours reboots you got a dud and should exchange it.
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strung said:
First g2x rebooted constantly. Froze up on charger. Required battery pull.
New g2x hasn't rebooted yet. Same SIM card.
My guess is that if yours reboots you got a dud and should exchange it.
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The same happened to me. First phone suffered from reboots.
My replacement is fine but I still haven't root it, so I blamed it on the root process.
Is yours rooted?

To counter your point..
Original G2X - rebooted a lot but then removing apps, software changes have made it more stable. Usually go 3+ days without a reboot
Replacement G2X (sent back) - rebooted just like my first one so i didn't even bother removing apps. SAME BATTERY AS ORIGINAL!
I also think it's mainly the battery which is what you're seeing by getting a replacement. I think some batteries don't charge properly so there are times when the voltage drops too much to sustain the phone causing a lock/reboot. I've been monitoring my phone and the more I think about it the more I realize most of my reboots happen after I had taken it off the charger at 100%. I can use it without charging it and it never reboots. Also battery monitor widgets,etc. cause reboots which all comes back to a bad battery or horrible battery driver which CM devs have already said existed.

After months of being in denial about the same problem which has plagued the O2X since launch, a couple of weeks ago LG Europe acknowledged the problem publicly and said it was software.
http://translate.google.com/transla...alligevel-problemer-med-optimus-2x,lid.15324/
Here's the post on the O2X forum that discusses the problem in gory detail. Interestingly, it says the Atrix is having a similar issue which could certainly point to the processor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041546

The rebooting is a software issue. The only time my phone rebooted was when I installed an app (Fring). After I uninstalled it, no issues.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

sstang2006 said:
The same happened to me. First phone suffered from reboots.
My replacement is fine but I still haven't root it, so I blamed it on the root process.
Is yours rooted?
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Neither were rooted. Also, rooting in and of itself is incidental; it would not affect the issue as rooting does not change any of the kernel files.
mobilehavoc said:
I also think it's mainly the battery which is what you're seeing by getting a replacement. I think some batteries don't charge properly so there are times when the voltage drops too much to sustain the phone causing a lock/reboot. I've been monitoring my phone and the more I think about it the more I realize most of my reboots happen after I had taken it off the charger at 100%. I can use it without charging it and it never reboots. Also battery monitor widgets,etc. cause reboots which all comes back to a bad battery or horrible battery driver which CM devs have already said existed.
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Very interesting. This corresponds to what I experienced, and I think you may be on to something here.
kangxi said:
The rebooting is a software issue. The only time my phone rebooted was when I installed an app (Fring). After I uninstalled it, no issues.
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I guess I have been one of the lucky ones. I bought my phone on the 22nd and have never had a reboot or lock up happen. Also my lcd bleeding is pretty minimal. Im still exchanging my phone for a new one because the little black piece of plastic that covers the camera just fell off one day plus I have a dead pixel on the screen that driving me nuts.

sstang2006 said:
The same happened to me. First phone suffered from reboots.
My replacement is fine but I still haven't root it, so I blamed it on the root process.
Is yours rooted?
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It is not the root process. I thought the same thing the first night after I rooted. The phone would not stay on for more than 5 minutes. The store rep did not believe me and tried his sim card and sure enough after five minutes sitting on the counter it turned off and only by pulling the battery was he able to get is re-started. Some of the phones are screwed up. Swap it. My new one is running great except for the battery life.

strung said:
Neither were rooted. Also, rooting in and of itself is incidental; it would not affect the issue as rooting does not change any of the kernel files.
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good to know

Are you serious with your response to my comment? That was unnecessary as I was being serious and many people can say the same.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

kangxi said:
Are you serious with your response to my comment? That was unnecessary as I was being serious and many people can say the same.
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Oh. Sorry. It just seems that on a lot of threads where people post about problems they are having, you jump in say you don't have any issues and to uninstall something like Fring that works fine on every other phone, so I thought you were trolling.

sstang2006 said:
The same happened to me. First phone suffered from reboots.
My replacement is fine but I still haven't root it, so I blamed it on the root process.
Is yours rooted?
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Although I often manually reboot the phone. I haven't seen one single auto-reboot or freeze, before or after root. So I don't think root is the cause of auto-reboot.
All bloatware are there and running, sometimes I manually close CarHome and TeleNav after reboot, sometimes I forget to do so.
From what I've seen, auto-reboot does look like a hardware problem. To be more specific, those devices are defective.

rhinology said:
Although I often manually reboot the phone. I haven't seen one single auto-reboot or freeze, before or after root. So I don't think root is the cause of auto-reboot.
All bloatware are there and running, sometimes I manually close CarHome and TeleNav after reboot, sometimes I forget to do so.
From what I've seen, auto-reboot does look like a hardware problem. To be more specific, those devices are defective.
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Just jinxed myself. Right after I replied to this thread I saw first freeze. After pulling battery and putting it back I saw "System Checking..." upon booting, and many force closes after boot was completed.

strung said:
Oh. Sorry. It just seems that on a lot of threads where people post about problems they are having, you jump in say you don't have any issues and to uninstall something like Fring that works fine on every other phone, so I thought you were trolling.
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Just offering what worked for me. If that's not the case then just return your phone. You can keep getting a new one or listen. There's nothing wrong with the phone that a software update probably wouldn't fix.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

I think its HW. If its SW it doesn't explain why one phone would reboot and a replacement would not.

almostinsane said:
I think its HW. If its SW it doesn't explain why one phone would reboot and a replacement would not.
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Someone explain how the first phone reboots and the replacement does not ( same apps, same usage).

sstang2006 said:
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Someone explain how the first phone reboots and the replacement does not ( same apps, same usage).
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My 2nd phone has no auto shutdown yet, but I am using new sim card. My ex G2X was using the old sim card.

My week old today G2x, 4/11/11 build, has never rebooted by itself. The only problems I'm having are flaky behavior switching wifi calling on and off automatically and some back light bleed.
As for how one phone reboots and others don't, it could be software or not. In order to really know for sure you would have to be absolutely certain you had the exact same apps installed in the exact same order, be in the same location at the same time and under the same conditions and loads.

nraudigy2 said:
My 2nd phone has no auto shutdown yet, but I am using new sim card. My ex G2X was using the old sim card.
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That could be the cause, since my previous phone suffered from reboots and I was using the old SIM. I started using the new SIM since day one with this phone and still no reboots..

[Q] OTA 2.3.4 update(Nexus S 4g) Battery, and Signal Strength

Hey everyone, I am enjoying the nexus s 4g(traded in my Evo 4g) but I have noticed some issues started to pop up after the OTA update to 2.3.4.(Build GRJ22). Also I am not rooted yet(for fear i will not be able to receive the next update that may resolve the issue's listed below).
Note I have updated my Profile, and PRL(Next to flashing to another ROM to mitigate the issue's).
1) Battery Charging, after the update the battery will not charge past ~95 percent.
2) Battery Life when idle, before the update battery life was outstanding with moderate usage. Now the device's battery life drops to ~85 percent after being unplugged for 15-20 mins.
3)Signal Reception, yet again my phone will constantly switch between 1x, and 3g even though my SNR, and DB never hits above ~65DB-~70DB.
4)Data Rate/Bandwidth, I was pulling 3-4 megs down/ 1.5 - 2.0 megs up(I live in the Virginia Beach Area) over 3g, Now I get "**** for speeds"(.3 megs down/.25 megs up. Maybe it is reference to the issue listed above(AOSP ROMS in my opinion provide a more accurate display of mobile network connectivity).
To end it I hope I am not alone with these issues?
Maybe if possible someone has a solution?

The battery thing is a means to keep the battery in better shape its not a bug.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

You aren't alone, all of the issues you listed are being looked at by Sprint and Google right now, although like the above poster said, the battery thing is intentional. Hopefuly they figure out what is wrong soon =/
In the meantime, using wifi when possible should alleviate a lot of those issues, mainly battery life on standby.

Many of my battery and network connection issues got mutch better when I turned the wifi to never sleep.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

If your constantly going between networks rider is your battery drain thought there. If it was better before then there is hope your problem can be fixed with another ota
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

The data issues you are having are due to 2.3.4 and they are known. google/samsung are supposedly working on it. But I doubt we will see a fix anytime soon if Samsung is fixing it!

Woa, woa, woa. Wait a second, are you saying that going back to 2.3.3 or whatever the previous version was will alleviate all the signal/radio/data problems? !?!!?
If so, will downgrading stop me from being able to upgrade in the future?

gmap516 said:
Woa, woa, woa. Wait a second, are you saying that going back to 2.3.3 or whatever the previous version was will alleviate all the signal/radio/data problems? !?!!?
If so, will downgrading stop me from being able to upgrade in the future?
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nope. depending on the version you are going back to you'll mostlikely get an insta notification that 2.3.4 is available for your device, you just got to ignore it until they either fix 2.3.4 or release 2.3.5.

2.3.4 is already out. If they release a new fix it will be 2.3.5.
And what the post above mine says about the updates.
I have also seen tat 2.3.3 also has some issues with 3g. But the post I read up could have been all lies

rentaric, you did not answer the question as to whether downgrading will address the signal issues...

ronnienyc said:
rentaric, you did not answer the question as to whether downgrading will address the signal issues...
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^ this plx

OP:
When you "root" the NS4G, you're just unlocking the Bootloader, then installing SU/recovery....I do believe you can still receive OTA updates. The only time you can't is when you're running a custom ROM.

12MaNy said:
OP:
When you "root" the NS4G, you're just unlocking the Bootloader, then installing SU/recovery....I do believe you can still receive OTA updates. The only time you can't is when you're running a custom ROM.
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It will install back a stock recovery and it will fail if you alter any system apps other than that the ota will work
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

dreamsforgotten said:
It will install back a stock recovery and it will fail if you alter any system apps other than that the ota will work
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That's why you make a backup of untouched stock ROM.

Hey man, I returned the phone yesterday, and then bought a replacement(same model, but in order to avoid sprint's one exchange limit) With regards to the battery issue, it most likely is hardware related because the new phone running 2.3.4.(Build GRJ22), charges fully and does not have the so called "protect your battery feature". Also while i was at the Sprint Store, I compared the signal strength of my original Nexus S to an HTC Evo, HTC Evo Shift, and another Nexus S 4g. Oddly enough even in the store(which has signal booster's all over the place. All of the phones where around -76db. I am starting to think it is either a hardware issue or a ****ty baseband version. Most likely hardware. Kind of reminds me of the Samsung Captivate i had with AT&T and the ever so wonderful bug with Odin(Orange/Blue flashing screen of death that turned my investment into a paperweight. Also after running the *#*#4636#*#*, and displaying the Preferred Network Settings, I noticed on all 3 phones tested, all devices would switch from WCDMA, to Uknown, to the best of my understanding the default should be CDMA_Auto PRL. Very Strange, very strange indead......... Samsung needs to invest into quality control, before lawsuits start.

Damn! I am on wifi and charging the phone. I just woke up and picked up the phone and started using it. I've experienced that using the phone after an overnight charge, but not removing it from the charger, will make my battery go up to 98%. I just saw it hit 99 and was like I need to get a screen shot of this. By the time I downloaded and installed something it dropped back down to 98. I've never seen this phone hit 99 before today. If it does it again I am prepared to archive it.

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[Q] Several Issues

Not enjoying my Nexus 5 too much and going back to Nexus 4.
Nexus 5 is set up the exact same way as Nexus 4 but issues.
Bluetooth randomly disconnects.
Phone randomly reboots itself (every couple of hours or so).
HD Widgets on home screen take up to a minute to display on first logon.
None of these issues on Nexus 4.
:crying:
Anyone else getting similar issues?
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After spending many hours trying to resolve this I have concluded it is a hardware fault.
Main issues were related.
Also HD widget is fine so long as not on default home screen. If it is then it takes while to fully load.
The bluetooth randomly disconnecting (when used with car system) was the device rebooting itself and not a bluetooth issue.
A couple of new issues appeared:
1. Rebooted when I was logged in even after all active apps had been uninstalled (previously it had only rebooted when screen was sleeping).
2. A couple of times now it as shut down completely and refused to start again.
Booting to recovery worked and then booted normally afterwards.
I have factory reset it and still doing the same thing (random reboots mostly when screen is sleeping).
I have found others having the same issues (including one in this forum)
Returning to Google to replace.
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Replacement Phone Delivered in less than 30 hours. Thank you Google and Parcel Force.
All apps restored though Titanium Backup and all tested and working well.
Now my Nexus 5 is working properly I am loving it. Fantastic Phone.
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nope, my device is pretty much perfect
HD Widgets not loading quickly is the developer's fault, but the phone's...and if you are getting random reboots, something you've installed is mucking up the system
wait for apps to be 4.4 optimised before complaining about the phone
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

Flakie said:
Not enjoying my Nexus 5 too much and going back to Nexus 4.
Nexus 5 is set up the exact same way as Nexus 4 but issues.
Bluetooth randomly disconnects.
Phone randomly reboots itself (every couple of hours or so).
HD Widgets on home screen take up to a minute to display on first logon.
None of these issues on Nexus 4.
:crying:
Anyone else getting similar issues?
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Just shut down altogether.
Only been booted 10 minutes.
Going to remove HD widgets from home screen to test.

n7of9 said:
nope, my device is pretty much perfect
HD Widgets not loading quickly is the developer's fault, but the phone's...and if you are getting random reboots, something you've installed is mucking up the system
wait for apps to be 4.4 optimised before complaining about the phone
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
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What???
This is forum and I am writing down my experiences.
I can put down what I want.
And you know it is not the phones fault how? Maybe I have a faulty one?
Now I love nexus and android but fanboy crap like that really annoys me.

When in doubt....factory reset(or clean flash if this is a custom ROM). There are tons of apps on the Play Store that would seem to do no harm but could cause all of these issues.

I dont think that was fanboy crap....seemed like spot on advice....

Flakie said:
What???
This is forum and I am writing down my experiences.
I can put down what I want.
And you know it is not the phones fault how? Maybe I have a faulty one?
Now I love nexus and android but fanboy crap like that really annoys me.
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Fanboy crap or not, the point is valid. If you're having random reboots it is caused by software 99% of the time. Go through the list of apps you've installed and begin uninstalling them one at a time, waiting to see if you're getting reboots in between. Good luck.

Go back to stock with no apps for a day and see if the problem continues. If it does then maybe it's the phone. If not, it was an app. New software always has issues either in itself or working with other apps. Why do people expect it to be perfect?

comminus said:
Fanboy crap or not, the point is valid. If you're having random reboots it is caused by software 99% of the time. Go through the list of apps you've installed and begin uninstalling them one at a time, waiting to see if you're getting reboots in between. Good luck.
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Yes, thanks, I am aware of how to debug a system be it a PC or a phone.
Blanket statements are no help at all.
I asked if anyone else had similar issues.
Maybe they do and they suspect an app.
I suspected HD widgets but it shut down completely with them disabled.
As sure as you are it is software it could just as likely be hardware.
Seems most likely to do it when it goes to sleep or screen is off.

Flakie said:
Yes, thanks, I am aware of how to debug a system be it a PC or a phone.
Blanket statements are no help at all.
I asked if anyone else had similar issues.
Maybe they do and they suspect an app.
I suspected HD widgets but it shut down completely with them disabled.
As sure as you are it is software it could just as likely be hardware.
Seems most likely to do it when it goes to sleep or screen is off.
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No need to toss attitude around. If you're aware how to debug, then get it done and tell us what the issue was - you'll probably save someone else who finds this thread from going through the same process.

brianfields33 said:
Go back to stock with no apps for a day and see if the problem continues. If it does then maybe it's the phone. If not, it was an app. New software always has issues either in itself or working with other apps. Why do people expect it to be perfect?
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Who said I expect t to be perfect.
Jeesh.
Yes I am planning to do that which is why I have gone back to my Nexus 4.
I am trying to get a useful thread going for others who may have issues similar.
If anyone has any comments that may be useful they will be welcomed, but please no pointless posts or fanboy trash.

comminus said:
No need to toss attitude around. If you're aware how to debug, then get it done and tell us what the issue was - you'll probably save someone else who finds this thread from going through the same process.
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I AM!
No attitude being tossed around by me.
Just some of the posters here who have nothing better to do so are posting rubbish.
I posted a thread to help with the process.
People making blanket statement that it must be an app. IT is NOT the phone is crap.
It helps no-one and makes them look stupid and wastes time.

Flakie said:
I AM!
No attitude being tossed around by me.
Just some of the posters here who have nothing better to do so are posting rubbish.
I posted a thread to help with the process.
People making blanket statement that it must be an app. IT is NOT the phone is crap.
It helps no-one and makes them look stupid and wastes time.
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I am using HD Widgets (with clock and weather and a second widget with switches) and had not a single unwanted reboot or other issues with my phone and I am playing around since monday morning.
Helpful or not - you decide...

Flakie said:
Just shut down altogether.
Only been booted 10 minutes.
Going to remove HD widgets from home screen to test.
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Seem to be when the screen is off that it reboots.
I have display set to sleep after 10 minutes of activity.
I have set security et to automatically lock after 5 minutes of sleep.
I have it set so the power button does *not* instantly lock.
If I click power button to shut off screen it auto reboots within 3 minutes of doing so.
So it does not appear that it is the sleep process that is causing the reboot.
Going to time this.

DЯΦ[email protected]П said:
I am using HD Widgets (with clock and weather and a second widget with switches) and had not a single unwanted reboot or other issues with my phone and I am playing around since monday morning.
Helpful or not - you decide...
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Very helpful. Thanks.
Exactly as I was using it.
As an aside, do you have them on the home screen.
If so have you noticed any delay in them appearing when logging in (egg timer)?

I have the clock and weather widget on my homescreen (not lockscreen) and after a reboot it takes a little time to initialize as on my Desire HD before (but much faster now). After turning on the screen, it's just there as it should be. Btw: using Nova Launcher, because I like it and bought it.

Flakie said:
Who said I expect t to be perfect.
Jeesh.
Yes I am planning to do that which is why I have gone back to my Nexus 4.
I am trying to get a useful thread going for others who may have issues similar.
If anyone has any comments that may be useful they will be welcomed, but please no pointless posts or fanboy trash.
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You may not like their suggestion but that doesn't make it invalid. If you REALLY want to get to the bottom of whether this is hardware or software do a factory reset and leave it stock for a few hours. Question answered.

I've only had one issue, hangout force closed within 15 mins of the phone being on. Nothing since.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

HughesNet said:
You may not like their suggestion but that doesn't make it invalid. If you REALLY want to get to the bottom of whether this is hardware or software do a factory reset and leave it stock for a few hours. Question answered.
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It is not that I do not like the suggestion.
I am prepared for the long haul to find the solution and I will find it.
But Jumping to assumptions that is is the software and stating that is is something I installed that is mucking up the system is of no help.
Then to state I should wait until apps are 4.4 optimised before I complain adds further insult.
This si close to fanboy talk and pisses me off.
I am factual and do not assume anything.
If someone has nothing of value to say then keep it zipped. Simple.

Battery drain issue on several smartphones die to "Google services"

Hi
I've been having problems with my latest smartphone regarding the battery drain. I don't know if it's a specific app or something way different, but they all seem to be draining a lot of battery life.
Currently I'm on a HTC One coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3 4G and Galaxy S3 before that. As I remember if, both my Galaxys had the same problem.
As you can see below it seems to be the Google services that are draining the battery.
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Has anyone else had simular issues with the Google services, and could it be an app that regularly uses the Google services?
I also have to mention that with all my phones they all became hot on their back (battery). I only use stock ROMs and I very rarely download apps from outside of Google Play Store.
My girlfriend is now using the Galaxy S3 and she hasn't really complained about the battery drain or the hot backside of the smartphone. I also doesn't seem to be a problem for me to begin with when I switch phones, but after a couple of weeks the problem arises.
I also have a Nexus 10. I can't say for sure whether that drains the battery too fast, but I believe it doesn't, though many of the apps are the same as those on my smartphones. At least it doesn't get hot.
Thanks a lot in advance for any help on this issue.
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Sporally said:
Hi
I've been having problems with my latest smartphone regarding the battery drain. I don't know if it's a specific app or something way different, but they all seem to be draining a lot of battery life.
Currently I'm on a HTC One coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3 4G and Galaxy S3 before that. As I remember if, both my Galaxys had the same problem.
As you can see below it seems to be the Google services that are draining the battery.
Has anyone else had simular issues with the Google services, and could it be an app that regularly uses the Google services?
I also have to mention that with all my phones they all became hot on their back (battery). I only use stock ROMs and I very rarely download apps from outside of Google Play Store.
My girlfriend is now using the Galaxy S3 and she hasn't really complained about the battery drain or the hot backside of the smartphone. I also doesn't seem to be a problem for me to begin with when I switch phones, but after a couple of weeks the problem arises.
I also have a Nexus 10. I can't say for sure whether that drains the battery too fast, but I believe it doesn't, though many of the apps are the same as those on my smartphones. At least it doesn't get hot.
Thanks a lot in advance for any help on this issue.
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I would suggest that you get titanium backup and back up your apps, then uninstall one by one to see if the problem stops. You might want to look into a custom rom.. Im on Slimrom with my GS3 and wow its blazing fast with the options for way more battery life. You should look into a custom rom.
xKJTx

Sporally said:
Hi
I've been having problems with my latest smartphone regarding the battery drain. I don't know if it's a specific app or something way different, but they all seem to be draining a lot of battery life.
Currently I'm on a HTC One coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3 4G and Galaxy S3 before that. As I remember if, both my Galaxys had the same problem.
As you can see below it seems to be the Google services that are draining the battery.
Has anyone else had simular issues with the Google services, and could it be an app that regularly uses the Google services?
I also have to mention that with all my phones they all became hot on their back (battery). I only use stock ROMs and I very rarely download apps from outside of Google Play Store.
My girlfriend is now using the Galaxy S3 and she hasn't really complained about the battery drain or the hot backside of the smartphone. I also doesn't seem to be a problem for me to begin with when I switch phones, but after a couple of weeks the problem arises.
I also have a Nexus 10. I can't say for sure whether that drains the battery too fast, but I believe it doesn't, though many of the apps are the same as those on my smartphones. At least it doesn't get hot.
Thanks a lot in advance for any help on this issue.
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I had the same problem when I loaded CM11 on the Lg Optimus G Pro, Google Services would just drain a crapload of battery and I didn't know why. I asked in the CM11 forum for help and one person said to clear data from Google Services in the apps part of settings and it should possibly stop the big drain. My personal experience was I did that and it worked temporary and brought GS down to 23% but awhile later it went back up. I guess that is the only fix for now.
Edit: I now have a Nexus 5 and my Nexus 5 does not have that issue, Google Services(GS) on Nexus 5 stays at 23%-25% no matter what custom Rom I have on it or stock Rom.

Vicpdx18 said:
I had the same problem when I loaded CM11 on the Lg Optimus G Pro, Google Services would just drain a crapload of battery and I didn't know why. I asked in the CM11 forum for help and one person said to clear data from Google Services in the apps part of settings and it should possibly stop the big drain. My personal experience was I did that and it worked temporary and brought GS down to 23% but awhile later it went back up. I guess that is the only fix for now.
Edit: I now have a Nexus 5 and my Nexus 5 does not have that issue, Google Services(GS) on Nexus 5 stays at 23%-25% no matter what custom Rom I have on it or stock Rom.
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Can it be anything else than Google Play-services and Android systems, when they, according to the screenshot, stand for 56% and 23% respectively? I mean, some other apps that makes it as if it was the Android system.
I've chosen not to be using mods after I almost killed my girlfriend's LG Optimus 2X At least it wasn't any fun to work with any longer.
Come to think of it I've read that there's a battery problem with version 4.4.2, which I run. Maybe I just need to wait for version 4.4.3 to be released, which should solve the problem. It was, according to some sites, a problem with the camera app running in the background.

While I cant add anything other than "I have been saying so for a long time". I dont use google services in my phone, and I am happy. Though it is a custom rom, when I bought my phone, I did the same with the stock rom. All I can say is that the phone run much smoother, less lag and a greater battery life.
If you are keen, just use your phone for a week without google services, you should see the difference. The less services and background apps run, the better your experience with the phone will be.

Note 5 Memory Management

As many of you know a lot of folks have posted about the RAM management issues on their Galaxy Note 5 devices. The issue is that apps are closed prematurely despite the Note 5 having the most RAM available to any Android device to date. This also seems to effect the Galaxy 6, Galaxy 6 Edge, and Galaxy 6 Edge+ devices. Since Verizon (and AT&T) have locked down their boot loaders there is no way to obtain root and fix the problem. We are left waiting on Samsung for a fix (if it ever comes). This may not seem like a big issue to a lot of folks but I often run several apps in the background (Skype, Exchange client, K-9 Mail, Lync, Life 360, Spotify) and I can't afford having them shut down by an over aggressive RAM management.
How many of you have experienced the issue?
Has anyone been running several apps in the background and not had this issue happen?
Has anyone found a fix that will work with Verizon/AT&T devices with locked boot loaders?
Any word from Samsung as to a fix?
Here are links detailing the issue in case you are not familiar ...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5/570051-galaxy-note-5-still-having-ram-management-issues.html
http://www.xda-developers.com/psa-the-ram-management-fix-for-the-s6-works-on-the-note5/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsungs-galaxy-note-5-and-s6-edge-struggle-with-multitasking-despite-4gb-of-ram/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/3hn9ma/so_it_seems_like_the_mutlitasking_is_just_as/

I got my N5 and have my s6 to my son. I have noticed little to no lag on my N5 but it was bad on the s6.

Sorry, not much help. I have noticed it kicking apps out of RAM, but they load so quickly it's not a big deal. Still annoying though given the amount of ram. I run tasker, yaata, and adblock, so I'm wondering if that might be making it worse for me. But again, at least this phone loads apps crazy fast.

I'm using note 5 and it frequently kills my swype keyboard. I frequently have to wait for about 5 seconds for the keyboard to load and have a Google search. You can imagine how frustrating it is

edmondhsl said:
I'm using note 5 and it frequently kills my swype keyboard. I frequently have to wait for about 5 seconds for the keyboard to load and have a Google search. You can imagine how frustrating it is
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That's weird... I use Swype and don't have that issue at all.
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As I remember thinking, the issue seems to less prominent after an update?
Anyway, I've sold my note 5 already.

Same here. Sold my Note 5 and went to a Nexus 6. Much happier.

Haven't noticed that at all.

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I'm using note 5 and it frequently kills my swype keyboard. I frequently have to wait for about 5 seconds for the keyboard to load and have a Google search. You can imagine how frustrating it is
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I have that issue with the samsung keyboard.

I wonder why it has so little free ram considering this phone has 4gb of ram in total.

Nickyro23 said:
That's weird... I use Swype and don't have that issue at all.
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same

I do have this issue. Lots of people do, some won't admit it tho. Thankfully, waiting for a fix with Android 6.0 from Samsung/Verizon will only be 6ish months after everyone else! Woo

Rippley05 said:
I do have this issue. Lots of people do, some won't admit it tho. Thankfully, waiting for a fix with Android 6.0 from Samsung/Verizon will only be 6ish months after everyone else! Woo
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I don't have that issue either but that might have something to do with me being on Sprint and not Verizon.
Not sure how I ended up here, sorry.

Been following for a while. Thought I would contribute. Yes a fix is coming in 6.0 for us from what I keep seeing about the ram management. It sucks.
I run chromecast with YouTube and the issue arises when I try to go use the notification to pause the videos that are autoplaying.... Nothing happens because youtube is closed in the background. I have to reopen youtube and wait for it to load and catch up the I can pause. Happens with chrome as well. I will read something or type something in a form on a page and if left for a little with no attention it will have to reload the page after resuming chrome due to it closing out. The whole point of the window button is to close them when you don't need them anymore.
Can't wait for a fix!
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Jacob11701 said:
Been following for a while. Thought I would contribute. Yes a fix is coming in 6.0 for us from what I keep seeing about the ram management. It sucks.
I run chromecast with YouTube and the issue arises when I try to go use the notification to pause the videos that are autoplaying.... Nothing happens because youtube is closed in the background. I have to reopen youtube and wait for it to load and catch up the I can pause. Happens with chrome as well. I will read something or type something in a form on a page and if left for a little with no attention it will have to reload the page after resuming chrome due to it closing out. The whole point of the window button is to close them when you don't need them anymore.
Can't wait for a fix!
? JRT
Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5
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Sweet. Any inside information on when 6.0 is gonna be pushed?
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toskabab said:
Sweet. Any inside information on when 6.0 is gonna be pushed?
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No inside scoop for us. Just what I've been reading shows its been delayed from this month to beginning of this year in Q1.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=469380313246700&id=340512139466852
A lot of Samsung phones are getting it then.
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First time posting so I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I've been having the complete opposite problem then the one described in this thread, my phone is actually running out of RAM available and having to re launch my launcher... About once a day I have to restart my phone just to be able to unlock the device because it gets that bad. I've tried searching other forums but none seem to have helped.
I'm currently rooted on a Canadian note 5 running rapture ROM and with the arter97 kernel.
I've included a screenshot of what I'm dealing with right before I need to reboot the device.
Thanks for looking
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PostMortum said:
First time posting so I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I've been having the complete opposite problem then the one described in this thread, my phone is actually running out of RAM available and having to re launch my launcher... About once a day I have to restart my phone just to be able to unlock the device because it gets that bad. I've tried searching other forums but none seem to have helped.
I'm currently rooted on a Canadian note 5 running rapture ROM and with the arter97 kernel.
I've included a screenshot of what I'm dealing with right before I need to reboot the device.
Thanks for looking
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Your problems are more than likely because of the 'root'.. It shouldn't need to use all 4gb of ram! You probably have that deep sleep issue because you tripped your Knox counter.. However, you might find better help in the Canadian thread instead of the Verizon thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/canadian-note-5-thread-t3179290
OR, the thread you used to gain root access.