Note 5 Memory Management - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5

As many of you know a lot of folks have posted about the RAM management issues on their Galaxy Note 5 devices. The issue is that apps are closed prematurely despite the Note 5 having the most RAM available to any Android device to date. This also seems to effect the Galaxy 6, Galaxy 6 Edge, and Galaxy 6 Edge+ devices. Since Verizon (and AT&T) have locked down their boot loaders there is no way to obtain root and fix the problem. We are left waiting on Samsung for a fix (if it ever comes). This may not seem like a big issue to a lot of folks but I often run several apps in the background (Skype, Exchange client, K-9 Mail, Lync, Life 360, Spotify) and I can't afford having them shut down by an over aggressive RAM management.
How many of you have experienced the issue?
Has anyone been running several apps in the background and not had this issue happen?
Has anyone found a fix that will work with Verizon/AT&T devices with locked boot loaders?
Any word from Samsung as to a fix?
Here are links detailing the issue in case you are not familiar ...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5/570051-galaxy-note-5-still-having-ram-management-issues.html
http://www.xda-developers.com/psa-the-ram-management-fix-for-the-s6-works-on-the-note5/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsungs-galaxy-note-5-and-s6-edge-struggle-with-multitasking-despite-4gb-of-ram/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/3hn9ma/so_it_seems_like_the_mutlitasking_is_just_as/

I got my N5 and have my s6 to my son. I have noticed little to no lag on my N5 but it was bad on the s6.

Sorry, not much help. I have noticed it kicking apps out of RAM, but they load so quickly it's not a big deal. Still annoying though given the amount of ram. I run tasker, yaata, and adblock, so I'm wondering if that might be making it worse for me. But again, at least this phone loads apps crazy fast.

I'm using note 5 and it frequently kills my swype keyboard. I frequently have to wait for about 5 seconds for the keyboard to load and have a Google search. You can imagine how frustrating it is

edmondhsl said:
I'm using note 5 and it frequently kills my swype keyboard. I frequently have to wait for about 5 seconds for the keyboard to load and have a Google search. You can imagine how frustrating it is
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That's weird... I use Swype and don't have that issue at all.
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As I remember thinking, the issue seems to less prominent after an update?
Anyway, I've sold my note 5 already.

Same here. Sold my Note 5 and went to a Nexus 6. Much happier.

Haven't noticed that at all.

edmondhsl said:
I'm using note 5 and it frequently kills my swype keyboard. I frequently have to wait for about 5 seconds for the keyboard to load and have a Google search. You can imagine how frustrating it is
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I have that issue with the samsung keyboard.

I wonder why it has so little free ram considering this phone has 4gb of ram in total.

Nickyro23 said:
That's weird... I use Swype and don't have that issue at all.
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same

I do have this issue. Lots of people do, some won't admit it tho. Thankfully, waiting for a fix with Android 6.0 from Samsung/Verizon will only be 6ish months after everyone else! Woo

Rippley05 said:
I do have this issue. Lots of people do, some won't admit it tho. Thankfully, waiting for a fix with Android 6.0 from Samsung/Verizon will only be 6ish months after everyone else! Woo
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I don't have that issue either but that might have something to do with me being on Sprint and not Verizon.
Not sure how I ended up here, sorry.

Been following for a while. Thought I would contribute. Yes a fix is coming in 6.0 for us from what I keep seeing about the ram management. It sucks.
I run chromecast with YouTube and the issue arises when I try to go use the notification to pause the videos that are autoplaying.... Nothing happens because youtube is closed in the background. I have to reopen youtube and wait for it to load and catch up the I can pause. Happens with chrome as well. I will read something or type something in a form on a page and if left for a little with no attention it will have to reload the page after resuming chrome due to it closing out. The whole point of the window button is to close them when you don't need them anymore.
Can't wait for a fix!
? JRT
Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5

Jacob11701 said:
Been following for a while. Thought I would contribute. Yes a fix is coming in 6.0 for us from what I keep seeing about the ram management. It sucks.
I run chromecast with YouTube and the issue arises when I try to go use the notification to pause the videos that are autoplaying.... Nothing happens because youtube is closed in the background. I have to reopen youtube and wait for it to load and catch up the I can pause. Happens with chrome as well. I will read something or type something in a form on a page and if left for a little with no attention it will have to reload the page after resuming chrome due to it closing out. The whole point of the window button is to close them when you don't need them anymore.
Can't wait for a fix!
? JRT
Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5
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Sweet. Any inside information on when 6.0 is gonna be pushed?
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toskabab said:
Sweet. Any inside information on when 6.0 is gonna be pushed?
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No inside scoop for us. Just what I've been reading shows its been delayed from this month to beginning of this year in Q1.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=469380313246700&id=340512139466852
A lot of Samsung phones are getting it then.
Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5

First time posting so I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I've been having the complete opposite problem then the one described in this thread, my phone is actually running out of RAM available and having to re launch my launcher... About once a day I have to restart my phone just to be able to unlock the device because it gets that bad. I've tried searching other forums but none seem to have helped.
I'm currently rooted on a Canadian note 5 running rapture ROM and with the arter97 kernel.
I've included a screenshot of what I'm dealing with right before I need to reboot the device.
Thanks for looking
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PostMortum said:
First time posting so I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I've been having the complete opposite problem then the one described in this thread, my phone is actually running out of RAM available and having to re launch my launcher... About once a day I have to restart my phone just to be able to unlock the device because it gets that bad. I've tried searching other forums but none seem to have helped.
I'm currently rooted on a Canadian note 5 running rapture ROM and with the arter97 kernel.
I've included a screenshot of what I'm dealing with right before I need to reboot the device.
Thanks for looking
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Your problems are more than likely because of the 'root'.. It shouldn't need to use all 4gb of ram! You probably have that deep sleep issue because you tripped your Knox counter.. However, you might find better help in the Canadian thread instead of the Verizon thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/canadian-note-5-thread-t3179290
OR, the thread you used to gain root access.

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[Q] OTA 2.3.4 update(Nexus S 4g) Battery, and Signal Strength

Hey everyone, I am enjoying the nexus s 4g(traded in my Evo 4g) but I have noticed some issues started to pop up after the OTA update to 2.3.4.(Build GRJ22). Also I am not rooted yet(for fear i will not be able to receive the next update that may resolve the issue's listed below).
Note I have updated my Profile, and PRL(Next to flashing to another ROM to mitigate the issue's).
1) Battery Charging, after the update the battery will not charge past ~95 percent.
2) Battery Life when idle, before the update battery life was outstanding with moderate usage. Now the device's battery life drops to ~85 percent after being unplugged for 15-20 mins.
3)Signal Reception, yet again my phone will constantly switch between 1x, and 3g even though my SNR, and DB never hits above ~65DB-~70DB.
4)Data Rate/Bandwidth, I was pulling 3-4 megs down/ 1.5 - 2.0 megs up(I live in the Virginia Beach Area) over 3g, Now I get "**** for speeds"(.3 megs down/.25 megs up. Maybe it is reference to the issue listed above(AOSP ROMS in my opinion provide a more accurate display of mobile network connectivity).
To end it I hope I am not alone with these issues?
Maybe if possible someone has a solution?
The battery thing is a means to keep the battery in better shape its not a bug.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App
You aren't alone, all of the issues you listed are being looked at by Sprint and Google right now, although like the above poster said, the battery thing is intentional. Hopefuly they figure out what is wrong soon =/
In the meantime, using wifi when possible should alleviate a lot of those issues, mainly battery life on standby.
Many of my battery and network connection issues got mutch better when I turned the wifi to never sleep.
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If your constantly going between networks rider is your battery drain thought there. If it was better before then there is hope your problem can be fixed with another ota
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
The data issues you are having are due to 2.3.4 and they are known. google/samsung are supposedly working on it. But I doubt we will see a fix anytime soon if Samsung is fixing it!
Woa, woa, woa. Wait a second, are you saying that going back to 2.3.3 or whatever the previous version was will alleviate all the signal/radio/data problems? !?!!?
If so, will downgrading stop me from being able to upgrade in the future?
gmap516 said:
Woa, woa, woa. Wait a second, are you saying that going back to 2.3.3 or whatever the previous version was will alleviate all the signal/radio/data problems? !?!!?
If so, will downgrading stop me from being able to upgrade in the future?
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nope. depending on the version you are going back to you'll mostlikely get an insta notification that 2.3.4 is available for your device, you just got to ignore it until they either fix 2.3.4 or release 2.3.5.
2.3.4 is already out. If they release a new fix it will be 2.3.5.
And what the post above mine says about the updates.
I have also seen tat 2.3.3 also has some issues with 3g. But the post I read up could have been all lies
rentaric, you did not answer the question as to whether downgrading will address the signal issues...
ronnienyc said:
rentaric, you did not answer the question as to whether downgrading will address the signal issues...
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^ this plx
OP:
When you "root" the NS4G, you're just unlocking the Bootloader, then installing SU/recovery....I do believe you can still receive OTA updates. The only time you can't is when you're running a custom ROM.
12MaNy said:
OP:
When you "root" the NS4G, you're just unlocking the Bootloader, then installing SU/recovery....I do believe you can still receive OTA updates. The only time you can't is when you're running a custom ROM.
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It will install back a stock recovery and it will fail if you alter any system apps other than that the ota will work
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
dreamsforgotten said:
It will install back a stock recovery and it will fail if you alter any system apps other than that the ota will work
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
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That's why you make a backup of untouched stock ROM.
Hey man, I returned the phone yesterday, and then bought a replacement(same model, but in order to avoid sprint's one exchange limit) With regards to the battery issue, it most likely is hardware related because the new phone running 2.3.4.(Build GRJ22), charges fully and does not have the so called "protect your battery feature". Also while i was at the Sprint Store, I compared the signal strength of my original Nexus S to an HTC Evo, HTC Evo Shift, and another Nexus S 4g. Oddly enough even in the store(which has signal booster's all over the place. All of the phones where around -76db. I am starting to think it is either a hardware issue or a ****ty baseband version. Most likely hardware. Kind of reminds me of the Samsung Captivate i had with AT&T and the ever so wonderful bug with Odin(Orange/Blue flashing screen of death that turned my investment into a paperweight. Also after running the *#*#4636#*#*, and displaying the Preferred Network Settings, I noticed on all 3 phones tested, all devices would switch from WCDMA, to Uknown, to the best of my understanding the default should be CDMA_Auto PRL. Very Strange, very strange indead......... Samsung needs to invest into quality control, before lawsuits start.
Damn! I am on wifi and charging the phone. I just woke up and picked up the phone and started using it. I've experienced that using the phone after an overnight charge, but not removing it from the charger, will make my battery go up to 98%. I just saw it hit 99 and was like I need to get a screen shot of this. By the time I downloaded and installed something it dropped back down to 98. I've never seen this phone hit 99 before today. If it does it again I am prepared to archive it.
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Will you return G2X if update doesn't fix reboot?

I sure as hell will. Wondering who here is ready to return if their phone reboots after update. T mobile will be so swamped if it doesn't fix it, and mine recently has started rebooting randomly, not too often. Just wondering if everyone here will return, if so, t mobile will have quite the ride with this one unless they do a recall.
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unique77 said:
I sure as hell will. Wondering who here is ready to return if their phone reboots after update. T mobile will be so swamped if it doesn't fix it, and mine recently has started rebooting randomly, not too often. Just wondering if everyone here will return, if so, t mobile will have quite the ride with this one unless they do a recall.
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I would for sure.
Yep. Although there isn't much left in the t-mo lineup that is tempting.
liquidblue1985 said:
Although there isn't much left in the t-mo lineup that is tempting.
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My sentiments exactly.
I don't think LG is going to let it happened. It's something in the software that is conflicting with the hardware. I'm on customs ROM (CM7) and have not seen it rebooted once.
I will sell the phone if I will see new 2.3 gonna be slow than 2.2
(Im ready to buy Samsung Galaxy S II)
If the update or a battery swap doesn't fix my reboots,i would like to return it but I'm already past my 30 days.
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I would make them exchange it. How can they not if you tell them it interrupts calls with a reboot. Also someone else said in the topic about the o2x gingerbread delay that the g2x was pulled and he's getting a sensation. Not sure if that's true or not.
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shilent said:
If the update or a battery swap doesn't fix my reboots,i would like to return it but I'm already past my 30 days.
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Doesn't it have an LG manufacturers warranty for 1 year?
Maybe just go through LG for a replacement.
Hoggles said:
Doesn't it have an LG manufacturers warranty for 1 year?
Maybe just go through LG for a replacement.
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Would I get a refurbished?
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shilent said:
Would I get a refurbished?
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That I don't know. Most likely...
When you ask, "will you return it?" you realize that T-Mobile will not take it back for a refund outside the 14 or 30 day "buyers remorse" periods.
If you are outside that period, returning it for a refund or exchange for another phone of a different model is not an option.
And since the phone has not been available for nearly 30 days now, I dont see how ANYONE could still be within their buyers remorse period.
I was on the phone with an executive from T-Mobile today (not a customer service specialist, retention specialist or tech specialist... a real executive) and there is nothing that ANYONE of lower position at T-Mobile can do.
And as an FYI, the issue is happening with pre-rooted and un-modded phones AND rooted and custom rom phones. I have one of each sitting on my desk right now and both of them have the same issues.
If I jump off this ship the I won't get to see this phone mature.
It is such an awesome device and at least with me the reboots are not bad at all. Just like any other phone I had, nothing new nothing major.
This is going to be an awesome phone ones it matures.
Sent from my G2x
There's always the Sensation. I played with one at my Wal-Mart today and it is very light and small. I was shocked, tbh. I have very small hands, for a guy and it is quite comfortable. The only thing holding me back from pulling the trigger is that new return policy and the chance of a Nexus Two? Three? coming this Christmas.
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I will not jump to the Sensation unless they build a ROM that is without Sense. Sense is fun to play with but it's horrendous as a daily driver.
The Slide 4g or whatever does have me intrigued though. I just loves me some keyboard.
There is no way in hell I am getting another one of these. No way. They can't tell me when the update is coming and each phone has these different crazy personalities!
Mine did two completely new and screwy things today. Completely different than the wifi issues and shutting off type reboots, and screen bleed that this forth phone has been doing already.
First, today when I was at the local Walmart trying to see a Sensation, I took my phone out of my pocket and it was stuck in this loop. The notification screen looked like it was pulled half way down. It was spinning around between landscape and portrait, landscape and portrait over and over about once a second. Kind of looked like a slow motion propeller just goin' round and round. Landscape, portrait, landscape, portrait. Bizzarre. Had to pull the battery.... nothing else would work.
Then tonight, my battery was in the red zone. So I change batteries. I have to enter my code on my sim card before I can use my phone. It took forever to get to that sim screen, then I could not input anything. Finally held down the power off button, the power off screen shows but I cannot input hereeither..,,,,battery pull. Arggghhh!
Then I turn it on, and it takes forever....I mean two full minutes, then shows an error message.....
" Sorry!
The application com.lge omadmclient (process com. lge omadmclient) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again"
With a "Force close" button
When I pushed the force close, it showed another error screen
"Sorry
The application Launcher pro (process android.process. a core) has stopped unecpectedly. Please try again."
This one had two choices.."Force close" and "Make report"
When I pushed FC, it went right to the former error screen.
Could not get out of this loop. Until I did a battery pull. Power off did not work.
This happened three times. Three times. Finally did an on/volume reset. Arggghhh!
More Weirdness.....
No....I don't want another. Thanks.
hiko36 said:
I will not jump to the Sensation unless they build a ROM that is without Sense. Sense is fun to play with but it's horrendous as a daily driver.
The Slide 4g or whatever does have me intrigued though. I just loves me some keyboard.
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+1 I love sense for the eyes but sense bogs down the phone too much. I want my phone to be snappy as possible but it does look like a nice device.. Although I dont think it makes sense to jump ship for it. I think by late fall(which is only a few months a way ) something better will be out and I'll upgrade then The mytouch 4g slide does look interesting as well(I had the mt4g and loved it) Wonder how thick it will be. I really dont have any reboot issues with my g2x. I do have some screen bleed but I'm going to try to fix that I actually have 2 g2x's that's why I dont mind trying to open one up just to fix the screen bleed. The other got sent back to "LG" (really Steller Wireless) for major major screen bleed/screen separation. I hope that one comes back perfect but I'm not holding my breath. But I want to try to fix the one with minimal screen bleed myself
Oh I am going to stick this out to the buyer end... It is a beast... It had me at hello...
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hell yeah...

[Q] Several Issues

Not enjoying my Nexus 5 too much and going back to Nexus 4.
Nexus 5 is set up the exact same way as Nexus 4 but issues.
Bluetooth randomly disconnects.
Phone randomly reboots itself (every couple of hours or so).
HD Widgets on home screen take up to a minute to display on first logon.
None of these issues on Nexus 4.
:crying:
Anyone else getting similar issues?
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After spending many hours trying to resolve this I have concluded it is a hardware fault.
Main issues were related.
Also HD widget is fine so long as not on default home screen. If it is then it takes while to fully load.
The bluetooth randomly disconnecting (when used with car system) was the device rebooting itself and not a bluetooth issue.
A couple of new issues appeared:
1. Rebooted when I was logged in even after all active apps had been uninstalled (previously it had only rebooted when screen was sleeping).
2. A couple of times now it as shut down completely and refused to start again.
Booting to recovery worked and then booted normally afterwards.
I have factory reset it and still doing the same thing (random reboots mostly when screen is sleeping).
I have found others having the same issues (including one in this forum)
Returning to Google to replace.
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<edit 2>
Replacement Phone Delivered in less than 30 hours. Thank you Google and Parcel Force.
All apps restored though Titanium Backup and all tested and working well.
Now my Nexus 5 is working properly I am loving it. Fantastic Phone.
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nope, my device is pretty much perfect
HD Widgets not loading quickly is the developer's fault, but the phone's...and if you are getting random reboots, something you've installed is mucking up the system
wait for apps to be 4.4 optimised before complaining about the phone
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
Flakie said:
Not enjoying my Nexus 5 too much and going back to Nexus 4.
Nexus 5 is set up the exact same way as Nexus 4 but issues.
Bluetooth randomly disconnects.
Phone randomly reboots itself (every couple of hours or so).
HD Widgets on home screen take up to a minute to display on first logon.
None of these issues on Nexus 4.
:crying:
Anyone else getting similar issues?
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Just shut down altogether.
Only been booted 10 minutes.
Going to remove HD widgets from home screen to test.
n7of9 said:
nope, my device is pretty much perfect
HD Widgets not loading quickly is the developer's fault, but the phone's...and if you are getting random reboots, something you've installed is mucking up the system
wait for apps to be 4.4 optimised before complaining about the phone
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
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What???
This is forum and I am writing down my experiences.
I can put down what I want.
And you know it is not the phones fault how? Maybe I have a faulty one?
Now I love nexus and android but fanboy crap like that really annoys me.
When in doubt....factory reset(or clean flash if this is a custom ROM). There are tons of apps on the Play Store that would seem to do no harm but could cause all of these issues.
I dont think that was fanboy crap....seemed like spot on advice....
Flakie said:
What???
This is forum and I am writing down my experiences.
I can put down what I want.
And you know it is not the phones fault how? Maybe I have a faulty one?
Now I love nexus and android but fanboy crap like that really annoys me.
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Fanboy crap or not, the point is valid. If you're having random reboots it is caused by software 99% of the time. Go through the list of apps you've installed and begin uninstalling them one at a time, waiting to see if you're getting reboots in between. Good luck.
Go back to stock with no apps for a day and see if the problem continues. If it does then maybe it's the phone. If not, it was an app. New software always has issues either in itself or working with other apps. Why do people expect it to be perfect?
comminus said:
Fanboy crap or not, the point is valid. If you're having random reboots it is caused by software 99% of the time. Go through the list of apps you've installed and begin uninstalling them one at a time, waiting to see if you're getting reboots in between. Good luck.
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Yes, thanks, I am aware of how to debug a system be it a PC or a phone.
Blanket statements are no help at all.
I asked if anyone else had similar issues.
Maybe they do and they suspect an app.
I suspected HD widgets but it shut down completely with them disabled.
As sure as you are it is software it could just as likely be hardware.
Seems most likely to do it when it goes to sleep or screen is off.
Flakie said:
Yes, thanks, I am aware of how to debug a system be it a PC or a phone.
Blanket statements are no help at all.
I asked if anyone else had similar issues.
Maybe they do and they suspect an app.
I suspected HD widgets but it shut down completely with them disabled.
As sure as you are it is software it could just as likely be hardware.
Seems most likely to do it when it goes to sleep or screen is off.
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No need to toss attitude around. If you're aware how to debug, then get it done and tell us what the issue was - you'll probably save someone else who finds this thread from going through the same process.
brianfields33 said:
Go back to stock with no apps for a day and see if the problem continues. If it does then maybe it's the phone. If not, it was an app. New software always has issues either in itself or working with other apps. Why do people expect it to be perfect?
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Who said I expect t to be perfect.
Jeesh.
Yes I am planning to do that which is why I have gone back to my Nexus 4.
I am trying to get a useful thread going for others who may have issues similar.
If anyone has any comments that may be useful they will be welcomed, but please no pointless posts or fanboy trash.
comminus said:
No need to toss attitude around. If you're aware how to debug, then get it done and tell us what the issue was - you'll probably save someone else who finds this thread from going through the same process.
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I AM!
No attitude being tossed around by me.
Just some of the posters here who have nothing better to do so are posting rubbish.
I posted a thread to help with the process.
People making blanket statement that it must be an app. IT is NOT the phone is crap.
It helps no-one and makes them look stupid and wastes time.
Flakie said:
I AM!
No attitude being tossed around by me.
Just some of the posters here who have nothing better to do so are posting rubbish.
I posted a thread to help with the process.
People making blanket statement that it must be an app. IT is NOT the phone is crap.
It helps no-one and makes them look stupid and wastes time.
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I am using HD Widgets (with clock and weather and a second widget with switches) and had not a single unwanted reboot or other issues with my phone and I am playing around since monday morning.
Helpful or not - you decide...
Flakie said:
Just shut down altogether.
Only been booted 10 minutes.
Going to remove HD widgets from home screen to test.
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Seem to be when the screen is off that it reboots.
I have display set to sleep after 10 minutes of activity.
I have set security et to automatically lock after 5 minutes of sleep.
I have it set so the power button does *not* instantly lock.
If I click power button to shut off screen it auto reboots within 3 minutes of doing so.
So it does not appear that it is the sleep process that is causing the reboot.
Going to time this.
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I am using HD Widgets (with clock and weather and a second widget with switches) and had not a single unwanted reboot or other issues with my phone and I am playing around since monday morning.
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Very helpful. Thanks.
Exactly as I was using it.
As an aside, do you have them on the home screen.
If so have you noticed any delay in them appearing when logging in (egg timer)?
I have the clock and weather widget on my homescreen (not lockscreen) and after a reboot it takes a little time to initialize as on my Desire HD before (but much faster now). After turning on the screen, it's just there as it should be. Btw: using Nova Launcher, because I like it and bought it.
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Who said I expect t to be perfect.
Jeesh.
Yes I am planning to do that which is why I have gone back to my Nexus 4.
I am trying to get a useful thread going for others who may have issues similar.
If anyone has any comments that may be useful they will be welcomed, but please no pointless posts or fanboy trash.
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You may not like their suggestion but that doesn't make it invalid. If you REALLY want to get to the bottom of whether this is hardware or software do a factory reset and leave it stock for a few hours. Question answered.
I've only had one issue, hangout force closed within 15 mins of the phone being on. Nothing since.
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HughesNet said:
You may not like their suggestion but that doesn't make it invalid. If you REALLY want to get to the bottom of whether this is hardware or software do a factory reset and leave it stock for a few hours. Question answered.
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It is not that I do not like the suggestion.
I am prepared for the long haul to find the solution and I will find it.
But Jumping to assumptions that is is the software and stating that is is something I installed that is mucking up the system is of no help.
Then to state I should wait until apps are 4.4 optimised before I complain adds further insult.
This si close to fanboy talk and pisses me off.
I am factual and do not assume anything.
If someone has nothing of value to say then keep it zipped. Simple.

Battery drain issue on several smartphones die to "Google services"

Hi
I've been having problems with my latest smartphone regarding the battery drain. I don't know if it's a specific app or something way different, but they all seem to be draining a lot of battery life.
Currently I'm on a HTC One coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3 4G and Galaxy S3 before that. As I remember if, both my Galaxys had the same problem.
As you can see below it seems to be the Google services that are draining the battery.
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Has anyone else had simular issues with the Google services, and could it be an app that regularly uses the Google services?
I also have to mention that with all my phones they all became hot on their back (battery). I only use stock ROMs and I very rarely download apps from outside of Google Play Store.
My girlfriend is now using the Galaxy S3 and she hasn't really complained about the battery drain or the hot backside of the smartphone. I also doesn't seem to be a problem for me to begin with when I switch phones, but after a couple of weeks the problem arises.
I also have a Nexus 10. I can't say for sure whether that drains the battery too fast, but I believe it doesn't, though many of the apps are the same as those on my smartphones. At least it doesn't get hot.
Thanks a lot in advance for any help on this issue.
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Sporally said:
Hi
I've been having problems with my latest smartphone regarding the battery drain. I don't know if it's a specific app or something way different, but they all seem to be draining a lot of battery life.
Currently I'm on a HTC One coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3 4G and Galaxy S3 before that. As I remember if, both my Galaxys had the same problem.
As you can see below it seems to be the Google services that are draining the battery.
Has anyone else had simular issues with the Google services, and could it be an app that regularly uses the Google services?
I also have to mention that with all my phones they all became hot on their back (battery). I only use stock ROMs and I very rarely download apps from outside of Google Play Store.
My girlfriend is now using the Galaxy S3 and she hasn't really complained about the battery drain or the hot backside of the smartphone. I also doesn't seem to be a problem for me to begin with when I switch phones, but after a couple of weeks the problem arises.
I also have a Nexus 10. I can't say for sure whether that drains the battery too fast, but I believe it doesn't, though many of the apps are the same as those on my smartphones. At least it doesn't get hot.
Thanks a lot in advance for any help on this issue.
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I would suggest that you get titanium backup and back up your apps, then uninstall one by one to see if the problem stops. You might want to look into a custom rom.. Im on Slimrom with my GS3 and wow its blazing fast with the options for way more battery life. You should look into a custom rom.
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Sporally said:
Hi
I've been having problems with my latest smartphone regarding the battery drain. I don't know if it's a specific app or something way different, but they all seem to be draining a lot of battery life.
Currently I'm on a HTC One coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3 4G and Galaxy S3 before that. As I remember if, both my Galaxys had the same problem.
As you can see below it seems to be the Google services that are draining the battery.
Has anyone else had simular issues with the Google services, and could it be an app that regularly uses the Google services?
I also have to mention that with all my phones they all became hot on their back (battery). I only use stock ROMs and I very rarely download apps from outside of Google Play Store.
My girlfriend is now using the Galaxy S3 and she hasn't really complained about the battery drain or the hot backside of the smartphone. I also doesn't seem to be a problem for me to begin with when I switch phones, but after a couple of weeks the problem arises.
I also have a Nexus 10. I can't say for sure whether that drains the battery too fast, but I believe it doesn't, though many of the apps are the same as those on my smartphones. At least it doesn't get hot.
Thanks a lot in advance for any help on this issue.
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I had the same problem when I loaded CM11 on the Lg Optimus G Pro, Google Services would just drain a crapload of battery and I didn't know why. I asked in the CM11 forum for help and one person said to clear data from Google Services in the apps part of settings and it should possibly stop the big drain. My personal experience was I did that and it worked temporary and brought GS down to 23% but awhile later it went back up. I guess that is the only fix for now.
Edit: I now have a Nexus 5 and my Nexus 5 does not have that issue, Google Services(GS) on Nexus 5 stays at 23%-25% no matter what custom Rom I have on it or stock Rom.
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I had the same problem when I loaded CM11 on the Lg Optimus G Pro, Google Services would just drain a crapload of battery and I didn't know why. I asked in the CM11 forum for help and one person said to clear data from Google Services in the apps part of settings and it should possibly stop the big drain. My personal experience was I did that and it worked temporary and brought GS down to 23% but awhile later it went back up. I guess that is the only fix for now.
Edit: I now have a Nexus 5 and my Nexus 5 does not have that issue, Google Services(GS) on Nexus 5 stays at 23%-25% no matter what custom Rom I have on it or stock Rom.
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Can it be anything else than Google Play-services and Android systems, when they, according to the screenshot, stand for 56% and 23% respectively? I mean, some other apps that makes it as if it was the Android system.
I've chosen not to be using mods after I almost killed my girlfriend's LG Optimus 2X At least it wasn't any fun to work with any longer.
Come to think of it I've read that there's a battery problem with version 4.4.2, which I run. Maybe I just need to wait for version 4.4.3 to be released, which should solve the problem. It was, according to some sites, a problem with the camera app running in the background.
While I cant add anything other than "I have been saying so for a long time". I dont use google services in my phone, and I am happy. Though it is a custom rom, when I bought my phone, I did the same with the stock rom. All I can say is that the phone run much smoother, less lag and a greater battery life.
If you are keen, just use your phone for a week without google services, you should see the difference. The less services and background apps run, the better your experience with the phone will be.

Note 3 KitKat update has completely broken notifications.

Obviously Samsung weren't happy with their efforts to launch this device with a broken email app. They've gone one step further and broken all push notification support in 4.4.
No longer do I receive email notifications, app notifications, or pretty much anything else.
I have to unlock the phone before I'm told that I had an important meeting an hour ago which had a reminder set 30 mind before. Nor will I receive those stupidly funny pictures of cats with bread crusts on their heads on time.
But it's OK, because calls and texts still work just fine. Who needs important emails as long as you have that text telling you to pick up milk the second it comes through.
There must be laws somewhere to protect us against this stuff. Samsung are shocking.
I would suggest doing a factory reset. I have none of these issues. I have multiple email accounts and calendar reminders that never fail to go off unless the battery is dead. Both the first 4.4.2 and the current build (which is much cleaner in general performance btw).
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I would suggest doing a factory reset. I have none of these issues. I have multiple email accounts and calendar reminders that never fail to go off unless the battery is dead. Both the first 4.4.2 and the current build (which is much cleaner in general performance btw).
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I've done 5 factory resets in the last 2 weeks.
Notifications SOMETIMES work for the first 2 days, before they stop altogether.
Doesn't matter if I have a clean start with no apps installed, having all the bloatware disabled, etc. It always breaks.
I've tried just using the normal battery cover as opposed to the Samsung Flip cover, makes no difference at all.
I've also noticed that Cell Standby is top of battery usage regardless of what I do. Tested different batteries, sim cards, forcing 2G/3G instead of LTE, etc, also with no luck. The battery reporting is also way off too. 100% to 50% drains stupidly slow, then after 50% it craters to 0% within hours. Again, doesnt matter which battery I use (all official batteries btw). Wiped everything via recovery, nothing works.
Am I just one of the victims of 4.4.2? Because I'm starting to think the phone itself is broken.
Also worth mentioning that its only a few weeks old, so 4.3 hasnt been tested, and now obviously I can't go back due to the bootloader update.
My note 2 runs beautifully on both 4.3 and 4.4
I would take your reset one step further and flash the current firmware via Odin. The factory flash you have might be corrupt. Not likely but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it.
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Whatever your situation is it's your situation. I've been on 4.4 since a leak was released in January and haven't had any of the issues you're describing. The Gear is dependent on device notifications for its feed so its forum would be lit up like a Christmas tree if what you're describing were common. I can't imagine it's h/w related because there's no specific component that would touch the things affecting you. From what you said, I'm assuming your device is receiving whatever's supposed to trigger the notification but you're not being alerted when it arrives/occurs. That sounds like an app conflict or problem in settings.
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Whatever your situation is it's your situation. I've been on 4.4 since a leak was released in January and haven't had any of the issues you're describing. The Gear is dependent on device notifications for its feed so its forum would be lit up like a Christmas tree if what you're describing were common. I can't imagine it's h/w related because there's no specific component that would touch the things affecting you. From what you said, I'm assuming your device is receiving whatever's supposed to trigger the notification but you're not being alerted when it arrives/occurs. That sounds like an app conflict or problem in settings.
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Strangely enough, notifications work fine when paired with the Galaxy Gear I got free with it. I just rarely use it due to the nature of my workplace.
I probably should have added, the notifications only come through a few seconds after the phone is unlocked. You can visibly see the phone begin to access the network via the icon, and once it downloads, notifications pop.
And worth mentioning that this happens regardless of wifi access point, and on both 2G/3G and on LTE.
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I would take your reset one step further and flash the current firmware via Odin. The factory flash you have might be corrupt. Not likely but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it.
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I'll give that a go thanks.
I know you say it's unlikely, but I've tried for hours to find people that have the same issues as me, with no luck. Here's hoping it's just one of those rare cases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760935
I posted the firmware a week or so ago. That's the build that was just released.
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Mine doesn't do this. In fact mine is the opposite, it checks my email more often than what I set it to, kind of annoying.
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arcanexvi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760935
I posted the firmware a week or so ago. That's the build that was just released.
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Thanks but I'm running the international version.
Decided to bite the bullet and use the latest NE3/NE4 update from Asia, as a few people have reported it to be fine for the n9005 model it was intended for. I can always flash back later.
Will update in due course if anything helps my situation.
I had the same problem with WhatsApp notification
And I figured out that was happening because I hibernated google play store app
Just a quick message to say that the NE3 build seems to have fixed my cell standby issue, but ofcourse this is more than likely down to the full odin flash.
Hopefully it stays that way. Will test notifications during my work day tomorrow.
Yet another thing I forgot to add. Notifications have always worked properly when there is music playing to an external device. I assume this is down to the fact that the phone is always awake, and not in deep sleep like it normally is.
Android system and Android OS are both firmly back at the top of my battery usage as per the 4.4.2 norm. Strangely though I can't get the screen usage up at all.
weird. I have had 0 problems with NE3. Are you sure that you didn't greenify \ deactivate \appops stuff you shouldn't ?
i would love to have cell standby up on top as opposed to Android OS \ Android system though i did see a big leap in standby battery life comming to NE3 from ND3 and they were still on top.
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Strangely enough, notifications work fine when paired with the Galaxy Gear I got free with it. I just rarely use it due to the nature of my workplace.
I probably should have added, the notifications only come through a few seconds after the phone is unlocked. You can visibly see the phone begin to access the network via the icon, and once it downloads, notifications pop.
And worth mentioning that this happens regardless of wifi access point, and on both 2G/3G and on LTE.
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weird. I have had 0 problems with NE3. Are you sure that you didn't greenify \ deactivate \appops stuff you shouldn't ?
i would love to have cell standby up on top as opposed to Android OS \ Android system though i did see a big leap in standby battery life comming to NE3 from ND3 and they were still on top.
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NE3 seems to be significantly better than the ND6 build I was originally on. I can't judge battery life as ND6 was completely broken where tracking battery health, charge, etc was concerned. But I will say that it seems much more accurate.
So far notifications are working flawlessly while I have my flip cover installed. Hopefully it lasts.

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