The major players in the mobile navigation market don't work on a port of their famous gps applications for WP7.
Source and full article:
http://wmpoweruser.com/why-are-tomtom-and-alk-copilot-turning-their-back-on-5-million/
freddy28 said:
The major players in the mobile navigation market don't work on a port of their famous gps applications for WP7.
Source and full article:
http://wmpoweruser.com/why-are-tomtom-and-alk-copilot-turning-their-back-on-5-million/
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That's because WP7 isn't currently capable of that type of nav. It requires APIs that MS hasn't released yet. But when the updates start coming, maybe those will happen.
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That's because WP7 isn't currently capable of that type of nav. It requires APIs that MS hasn't released yet. But when the updates start coming, maybe those will happen.
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Wrong. Navigon has an app out there already using no internal APIs (apart from the one giving access to IMEI/IMSI numbers).
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That's because WP7 isn't currently capable of that type of nav. It requires APIs that MS hasn't released yet. But when the updates start coming, maybe those will happen.
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API's should be available long time ago because Navigon made a carrier-restricted MobileNavigator app, Telmap made a carrier-restricted app and there's the freely available beta a-to-b app in the marketplace.
Unfortunately Navigon is restricted to T-Mobile and only offes a germany (dach) map and the telmap and a-to-b app are online apps. Could get quite expensive, if you're not in your carrier's net (roaming).
So you guys are saying WP7 can now do turn by turn voice guided nav?
MartyLK said:
So you guys are saying WP7 can now do turn by turn voice guided nav?
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It's always been able to - just not thru Bing maps [yet]. All the APIs necessary are available to developers (i.e. Location API).
I've been using Navigon since launch pretty much and while the app still leaves a bit to the imagination it does indeed work as expected. Also very quick in getting a lock and seems to track my location very precise.
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So you guys are saying WP7 can now do turn by turn voice guided nav?
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There is Telenav which is available for $10 a month for voice nav which has been available for a while now. Don't think it's worth the $10 but wireless employees get the service for free.
That's good to know. I was lead to believe the system didn't yet have this ability. Are these apps currently available and as good as their counterparts?
Just did a market search for Navigon and came up unfound.
Jesus frikking Christ! The market is so sluggish! It is such a pain in the rear trying to browse the damn thing. Scrolling is painful and loading takes forever.
|I just checked all the markets and there is no app called "Telenav"
MartyLK said:
Are these apps currently available and as good as their counterparts?
Just did a market search for Navigon and came up unfound.
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Navigon uses the same maps as the iPhone version so theoretically there should be no differences between the versions.
Unfortunately, you will only find Navigon in the marketplace if you're using a t-mobile germany/austria sim card or t-mobile germany/austria branded device. Navigon said they're working on a carrier independent version but they did not mention a specific release date.
freddy28 said:
Navigon uses the same maps as the iPhone version so theoretically there should be no differences between the versions.
Unfortunately, you will only find Navigon in the marketplace if you're using a t-mobile germany/austria sim card or t-mobile branded device. Navigon said they're working on a carrier independent version but they did not mention a release date.
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But I am using a T-Mobile branded device. My HD7 is specific to T-Mobile in the US.
airwa1kin7 said:
|I just checked all the markets and there is no app called "Telenav"
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Telenav is only available for T-mobile US carrier customers.
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Telenav is only available for T-mobile US carrier customers.
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I couldn't find it either.
Navigon is exclusive to TMODE, Telenav is exclusive to TMOUS and AT&T Navigator is exclusive to, wait for it, AT&T
Navigon is the best one though as it's "offline" navigation and there are no monthly fees.
I spoke to Navigon not long ago and I believe their exclusivity deal runs out around mid-summer which means we should find the app available for everyone in the marketplace. They have recently updated their existing app from v1.4 to 2.1 which is more in-line with competing platforms in terms of functionality also.
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I couldn't find it either.
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It's in the TMOUS marketplace, named T-Mobile Telenav GPS. Currently at v5.9.
emigrating said:
Navigon is exclusive to TMODE, Telenav is exclusive to TMOUS and AT&T Navigator is exclusive to, wait for it, AT&T
Navigon is the best one though as it's "offline" navigation and there are no monthly fees.
I spoke to Navigon not long ago and I believe their exclusivity deal runs out around mid-summer which means we should find the app available for everyone in the marketplace. They have recently updated their existing app from v1.4 to 2.1 which is more in-line with competing platforms in terms of functionality also.
It's in the TMOUS marketplace, named T-Mobile Telenav GPS. Currently at v5.9.
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I don't have a T-Mobile marketplace. I have an HTC market, but I also did a direct search for T-Mobile and didn't see the Telenav app. I also typed in "T-Mobile Telenav" and came up not found.
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Navigon is exclusive to TMODE, Telenav is exclusive to TMOUS and AT&T Navigator is exclusive to, wait for it, AT&T
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Thanks for this clarification, emigrating.
MartyLK said:
I don't have a T-Mobile marketplace. I have an HTC market, but I also did a direct search for T-Mobile and didn't see the Telenav app. I also typed in "T-Mobile Telenav" and came up not found.
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Do you not have a TMOUS branded device? Either because you purchased off-contract or flashed a generic ROM? If so, you'll have to side-load. If you do have a branded phone you should be able to click this link from your phones browser however.
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Do you not have a TMOUS branded device? Either because you purchased off-contract or flashed a generic ROM? If so, you'll have to side-load. If you do have a branded phone you should be able to click this link from your phones browser however.
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My HD7 is a T-Mobile branded device and was bought from T-Mobile. But I paid for it outright rather than sign a contract for service. It isn't one of those international phones that can be used on any GSM network. It can only be used with T-Mobile...for 3G data, that is. It is sim-unlocked, though.
Is it possible that the sim card needs to be inserted for it to access T-Mobile apps?
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Is it possible that the sim card needs to be inserted for it to access T-Mobile apps?
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That sounds plausible. Stick your (or any) TMOUS SIM in there and it should give you access to it. Be aware though that the app itself may also be carrier dependant which means you can't run the app without a correct SIM inserted.
emigrating said:
That sounds plausible. Stick your (or any) TMOUS SIM in there and it should give you access to it. Be aware though that the app itself may also be carrier dependant which means you can't run the app without a correct SIM inserted.
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That is the case. I powered down my HD2, which runs an outstanding Energy WinMo ROM...love using that baby...and pulled the sim to put in my HD7. Once booted, I typed in T-Mobile Telenav and was rewarded with the app.
Eh...I now remember why I never used it before...even on my HD2. It costs $10 per month. Would rather spend $30 to $50 for CoPilot or Navigon or Tom Tom or some other downloaded nav and not face a monthly fee. Not having a steady income kind of forbids the extra cost...even though my cellphone bills are paid by my relative. I choose not to take advantage of them.
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Hey there
a friend's dad is in Alabama... and I was wondering if anyone knows where he would be able to buy a Touch HD and a Touch Pro WITHOUT a plan.. i just want the devices.
I went to the HTC website and all shops are service provider shops.. it's really urgent as he's staying there for only 2 more days... and i don't know how this works in the US.. with the plans and all
thanks in advance
Hd isn't sold in the US, You can by a touch Pro outright though from a service Provider.
EDIT: Are you looking for the gsm version or cdma?
GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth
No HD in the U.S.
nir36 said:
GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth
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Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.
att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma
joel2009 said:
att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma
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Yup your right, AT&T is currently the only GSM carrier in the U.S. that does offer the TP and like you stated above, all the others are CDMA.
You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.
wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?
denco7 said:
You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.
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Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
nir36 said:
wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?
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What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!
master athlon said:
Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.
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That's what I did, my old man lives in the states and I got him to get a fuze on his contract and now use it here in Australia (it looks a little stupid with the AT&T logo on the front though )
master athlon said:
Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!
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http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1365
Diamond with SD (400Mhz processor, but who cares)
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Inquiry Description Is the FM Radio Disabled on the Touch Pro 2 for Verizon? If it is why are you crippling the phone? I like to use the phone to its fullest potential and get aggrivated that there is a feature that is locked out!
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Hello oneders65,
I understand how important it is to be able to best utilize your device. The FM radio being disabled is not a choice that was made by HTC; each carrier makes their own specifications for their devices. In this case, Verizon requested that the FM radio not be available on their version of the Touch Pro2. It is possible that they have their own radio software; it is possible that it is something they will make available in a future update. However, there is unfortunately nothing that HTC Technical Support can do to unlock this feature, as we cannot go against the wishes of the carrier who purchased the device from us. For more information and possible ways around this, you may wish to visit our user forum at www.htcwiki.com.
If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us again. You can find additional support at our user forum www.htcwiki.com. There is also a customer satisfaction survey for you to take if you are interested.
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Message Body: Why is the FM Radio disabled on the Touch Pro 2? Locking out features gives us a reason to go to the other networks. I'm up for renewal but am going to hold off. If the other carriers offer the same phone without functions disabled why not go to the competition???????
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My name is Harlan, I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry about FM Radio.
I am sorry to hear that you are unhappy with the fact that FM Radio can not be accessed on the Touch Pro 2. Decisions on what applications and functions will be available on our phones are made by our Marketing Department, and can not be overridden. There are no current plans to offer FM Radio on this device in the future.
Although the feature you would like is not available on the Touch Pro 2 at this time, I invite you to view our current phone selection as a possible alternative. To view available equipment, please click on the following link, which will direct you to the "Products" page of our website:
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i thought there just wasnt enough room for 3 radios? i.e. u either get a gsm/fm radio tp2 or one with cdma/gsm radios.
The FM radio is in the Verizon TP2 I thought? Just needs the correct software/patch to use...unlike the TP1.
RonDutt said:
The FM radio is in the Verizon TP2 I thought? Just needs the correct software/patch to use...unlike the TP1.
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I think it's just speculation at this point.
in the touch pro the FM radio was part of the bluetooth chip. If the phone had bluetooth it had an FM radio. I'm guessing it's the same way in the pro2. If so, not having enough room is irrelevant. We won't know till we get a teardown. I haven't been able to find one online of any pro2. Anyone know of one?
I am running a VZ tp2 with the radio hack and it works well.
krdiesel said:
I am running a VZ tp2 with the radio hack and it works well.
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which radio hack?
syntrix said:
which radio hack?
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yeah which one?
Maybe the radio cab file? i havn't tried it yet.
Don't beleive it!
krdiesel said:
I am running a VZ tp2 with the radio hack and it works well.
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A person with one post has the radio hack... I think not!
Probably more speculation, but my Sprint corporate account rep says they were told the radios are disabled because they want people to spend money on the Sprint Music Store.
helirob said:
Probably more speculation, but my Sprint corporate account rep says they were told the radios are disabled because they want people to spend money on the Sprint Music Store.
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Because they offer NPR for free in this "music store"?
oneders65 said:
A person with one post has the radio hack... I think not!
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Don't see why that is such a stretch. I was making ROMs for my Wing before I ever made my first post here.
Doesn't THIS work?
toadlife said:
Doesn't THIS work?
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Not on a Sprint TP2. Did it work on your Tmo TP2?
helirob said:
Not on a Sprint TP2. Did it work on your Tmo TP2?
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Yes, it works on the T-Mo version.
Poke_N_PDA said:
in the touch pro the FM radio was part of the bluetooth chip. If the phone had bluetooth it had an FM radio. I'm guessing it's the same way in the pro2. If so, not having enough room is irrelevant. We won't know till we get a teardown. I haven't been able to find one online of any pro2. Anyone know of one?
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There's teardown pics over here, now....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=87598
I'm just happy that the M key is in the right place. I had a TP1 where the N and M key is separated by the "up arrow" for about a week and that absolutely drove me nuts!
kierandill said:
There's teardown pics over here, now....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=87598
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Thanks. Okay, from what I've seen there are much smarter people working on this than me. I'm not going to be able to solve it, but I can keep up better than most. From what it says the chipset for the Bluetooth is the BCM4325. Here's a link to the description of it.
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4325
So there is our confirmation that our TP2's have an FM reciever. We just have to figure out what Sprint did and how to use it. I'm guessing it probably won't be more than another few weeks before someone has it working.
Poke_N_PDA said:
Thanks. Okay, from what I've seen there are much smarter people working on this than me. I'm not going to be able to solve it, but I can keep up better than most. From what it says the chipset for the Bluetooth is the BCM4325. Here's a link to the description of it.
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4325
So there is our confirmation that our TP2's have an FM reciever. We just have to figure out what Sprint did and how to use it. I'm guessing it probably won't be more than another few weeks before someone has it working.
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hi all !!
yes the TP2 have a fm tuner, because it works fine on mine, thanks to this forum.
I could not find info on it, hence the question: the stock, unrooted update of my Nexus S to ICS will contain/ enable Google Wallet with NFC paying option?
As Galaxy Nexus is -according to the posts- having issues with Wallet/NFC I was wondering whether the Nexus S will have the same issues as well..
Sprints version will support it. The GSM won't.
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Sprints version will support it. The GSM won't.
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Do You mean with "GSM" the unbranded, genuine, Google ICS OTA update? In this case sad news, I would be happy to see NFC (Wallet, Mastercard, Paypal etc) paying options on my loved NS..
Please, a short answer? I really like my NS, but I also believe in NFC, as the payment of the next years (decade?): if ICS won't give an NFC paying option I'd better look further..
The same reason it is not on the GSM nexus s running gb applies to ics as well.
Hey guys,
Just got the HTC Windows Phone 8X, coming from an HTC Evo 3D. Huge improvement speed wise. Still getting used to WP8.
Anyway, anyone knows what's the availability on different carries for data sense? I know it's available for Verizon, but anyone knows when it's going to be released for other carries? I'm with Bell in Canada.
jValdron said:
Hey guys,
Just got the HTC Windows Phone 8X, coming from an HTC Evo 3D. Huge improvement speed wise. Still getting used to WP8.
Anyway, anyone knows what's the availability on different carries for data sense? I know it's available for Verizon, but anyone knows when it's going to be released for other carries? I'm with Bell in Canada.
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Can only speak for Germany - so here we have O² only, who have it already installed on their branded devices!
TheGardner said:
Can only speak for Germany - so here we have O² only, who have it already installed on their branded devices!
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You sure? I tried a few O2 branded Lumias and couldn't find it anywhere I'm on FONIC so if O2 really has it, I hope all O2's MVNO will eventually support it as well.
igoramadas said:
You sure? I tried a few O2 branded Lumias and couldn't find it anywhere I'm on FONIC so if O2 really has it, I hope all O2's MVNO will eventually support it as well.
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hmm, looks like not all of the MVNOs have it already!
Can only tell, what I've heard in the German forums! Seems only the main O2 provider have it ready at the time!
Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP ! Sometimes No SIM detected (of course the SIM is in the phone) ! Can't use internet when you are in a call..
These people talk to phone companies (Orange, Vodafone, Telekom) about this Horrible problems . The answer was that stupid google block this options in these part of the world because they don't give a f*ck about people from these countries.
Could not satisfy google insatiable GREED! for money !
Do you friends have this on your Pixel 7 pro ? If so how do you even use the phone?..
Any of you have Graphene OS on your Pixel 7 pro ? These problems are still threre?
I post this because i want to buy Pixel 7 pro..
Thank you.
Happy new year !!! All the best !
If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
Meh, don't get me started...
Gookill is the worst. Anything higher than Android 10 sucks. Might as well be Apple now.
Same deal as MS did; Google wants to force you to use cloud rather than expandable storage. All the more user data for them to collect. Google is wholesale spreaders of disinformation, hype, biased censorship, and are highly politically biased/manipulative.
Recommendation; buy a Note 10+ running on Android 9 or 10. No variable refresh rate display but better color/gamma accuracy and calibration. Good cams and up to 1tb expandable storage.
A long lived dependable workhouse that gets good SOT and runs like a bat out of hell. Even though it's 3 yo it keeps pace with the newest flagships for most tasks, only slightly slower and sometimes faster. Almost always gets better SOT. Excellent form factor, balance and build quality. Runs well stock once optimized. If you want to stay stock the Snapdragon variants are the best.
I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE, I can use internet when calling and my SIM is always detected. My provider is testing VoIP now, but I'm not interested as I'm on an unlimited 5G plan.
My dialer and camera app work perfectly.
Stock launcher is stock launcher, you have a ton to choose from. If you prefer a wholy stock phone, buy an iPhone.
I suggest to edit title to "Horrible Google in Germany".
It's also not a Germany problem. I have 2 Prepaid Sims in (blau (o2network) and a vodafone callya as esim). For both volte is working without problem, the vodafone one also have 5g, no problems with dialer or anything else....
blackspp said:
Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
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The stock launcher should be fast, stable and very user customizable. One reason I like Samsung's... lol, at least the N10+ as their hardware after this just doesn't hit the mark. The N9 is way too slow to be practical. Pixel's philosophy is sort of one size vanilla fits all and lacks needed customization options in my opinion. Clearly if you need to resort to using a 3rd party launcher Pixel fell short of meeting your needs with this core UI application. *meh*
After Android 10 Google Android went to scoped storage dumb bunny hell. Pie is still my preferred OS. This 3 yo flagship with 3 yo firmware provides a better overall user experience, balance and functionality in my opinion. It's a joy to use and very capable. It's not drowning in needless security protocols or hardware bloat... it just works day after day. Security for me is simply not an issue in real time usage; this load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, stable with no known security breaches. I use a few modifications and practices but nothing too drastic on this stock Android to achieve this. I spend very little time doing maintenance and troubleshooting.
So yeah, not liking Google's or Samsung's constant ball drops. No slam dunks, for years now. Pathetic.
MrBelter said:
If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
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NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
SilentEYE said:
I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
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null0seven said:
NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
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So how come the Pixel 5a was only sold in 2 countries if that was genuinly the case?
This topic is a little bit of rage, but to put things into perspective. OP is right at some points. I live in Slovakia and I have had so far:
Pixel 5
Pixel 6
Pixel 6 Pro
Pixel 7
Pixel 7 Pro
And neither of them was fully functional in Slovakia. What I mean by that? VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G are not working with any of the available carriers. I have checked with them all personally. They have proved and confirmed the issues are on the Google side.
In order to achieve full functionality, you must root the phone and use all sort of mods to enable all of the features. And to this day, I am not sure why is Google doing this. For this reason only I am switching between my Z Fold4 and iPhone 14 Pro. The moment Google will finally and kindly enable 100% of functionality to its Pixel devices in every country, I am getting it full time.
gpvecchi said:
I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE,
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Works because it has carrier configs made by Google for TIM (222-01)
null0seven said:
Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP !
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That's because Google has a very bad habit to play like they're Apple (on network side)
But with no significant market share
"The carrier should contact us to ""certify"" our phone to their network"
which translates in
"Won't enable anything until X carrier contacts us to add their network to our internal whitelist"
Funny enough, that problem exist even with "certified" carriers, like windtre (222-88) where you can't use their N78 60mhz only because Google ""certified"" only 40mhz N78 max for them, doesn't matter if with other phones even 150€ everything works perfectly
That problem will exist with other carriers if they will have more spectrum than allowed by their carrier policies (like EE [UK network] if they will merge their N78 blocks)
Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
The first two simply say they do not support the device. I'm not sure why that would be, they also didn't 'sell' any current Pixel Phones.
Is there a charge or operating cost to Google (or someone else) to support a device with the extra network functionality? Maybe the operator doesn't believe it's worth paying for the smaller number of potential customers with that device. Or maybe some operators never get the choice to activate those features based on their country/region? Who knows.
pemz82 said:
Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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pemz82 said:
The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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Understood. I'm moving when my contract is up in March, and likely to Talk Mobile who is an MVNO owned by Vodafone and who use their network. My son currently uses them so I will check with his sim card before moving.
Issue for me is that 3 are totally toilet in my area in terms of signal so I can't use Smarty.
Like i wrote in OP, users of Pixel 7 Pro complain to Orange, Vodafone, Telekom phone companies. The answer was that google block these options & they colud do nothing about it, because of google don't let them.
I want to buy the phone, but it works horrible in my country.