buying Blackstone in the US - General Questions and Answers

Hey there
a friend's dad is in Alabama... and I was wondering if anyone knows where he would be able to buy a Touch HD and a Touch Pro WITHOUT a plan.. i just want the devices.
I went to the HTC website and all shops are service provider shops.. it's really urgent as he's staying there for only 2 more days... and i don't know how this works in the US.. with the plans and all
thanks in advance

Hd isn't sold in the US, You can by a touch Pro outright though from a service Provider.
EDIT: Are you looking for the gsm version or cdma?

GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth

No HD in the U.S.
nir36 said:
GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth
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Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.

att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma

joel2009 said:
att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma
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Yup your right, AT&T is currently the only GSM carrier in the U.S. that does offer the TP and like you stated above, all the others are CDMA.

You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.

wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?

denco7 said:
You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.
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Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
nir36 said:
wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?
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What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!

master athlon said:
Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.
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That's what I did, my old man lives in the states and I got him to get a fuze on his contract and now use it here in Australia (it looks a little stupid with the AT&T logo on the front though )

master athlon said:
Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!
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http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1365
Diamond with SD (400Mhz processor, but who cares)

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AT&T "Tilt II" Touch Pro / Raphael Discussion

Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
north american version has passed your ffc fcc? federal communication ...
kareem9nba said:
Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
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99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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Well I don't know whether to be happy or said :S and i hope the X1 wont outperform it.
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
I will snoop around on my side and report anything to this thread with any positive news.
Lol, I would say they're that bad , however i can imagine them releasing it sometimes in Q4 (October-ish?) or early Q1 of next year.
I thought CDMA version is coming out first for Verizon. or was it for Sprint... I read it somewhere in Engadget or BGR.
this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
Why does the US seem to get this stuff last? I blame it on the carrier cartel that refuses to adopt the mobile phone industry models the rest of the world has.
If the only experience with HTC i had was my wizard, I'd be all over the Raphael. I paid 588USD for the tilt (off-contract) and get the shaft from them. Now, I'm up for a phone upgrade, and I'd really, really like to get my hands on this device, but I don't know if I trust them anymore.
Still LOOKS kickass, though.
AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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That hos nothing to do with it. Verizon, Tmobile, and all the US carriers can pick up the phone. Whether another carrier decides to pick it up or not doesn't mean that ATT wont.
M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
AllTheWay said:
I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
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i have talked to a certain someone... might not have to wait a couple of days to prove this person wrong...
The Juggler said:
Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
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there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
shogunmark said:
there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
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I would be VERY surprised if the Raph couldnt be sorted out like this, remember the Hermes didnt have necessary bands for telstra in AU which was eventually sorted with a hack to allow the necessary frequency to be used.
Details details people, if AT&T were going to use it i imagine the bands situation would be trivial, im sure they are going to carry it.
herg62123 said:
this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
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Why would they call it a "Tilt"? The Touch Pro's screen doesn't tilt like the Kaiser does it?
lavalamp said:
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
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You and I can hope but I'm 98% sure you're right. Trends point to AT&T releasing this sometime next year, as to not disturb the X1 and without the front facing cam. Right now it seems like Sprint is going to get this first as they're getting the Diamond sometime in September.
OK well lets just say in a matter of days we shall see if AT&T WILL be carrying the Raphael..............or not.

The HTC Touch Pro work with ATT's 3G?

I almost bought an HTC Touch Pro today from a vendor and the guy who was selling it said AT&T's 3G would work on it, that theres a program to install that allows it? now to me this doesn't make sense.. Is it possible to get 3G here in the states on AT&T's network with the HTC Touch Pro? Is there a program? flashing it? please let me know. thanks
ACMilan07 said:
I almost bought an HTC Touch Pro today from a vendor and the guy who was selling it said AT&T's 3G would work on it, that theres a program to install that allows it? now to me this doesn't make sense.. Is it possible to get 3G here in the states on AT&T's network with the HTC Touch Pro? Is there a program? flashing it? please let me know. thanks
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no. just buy the fuze when it comes out
only 550 retail
ACMilan07 said:
I almost bought an HTC Touch Pro today from a vendor and the guy who was selling it said AT&T's 3G would work on it, that theres a program to install that allows it? now to me this doesn't make sense.. Is it possible to get 3G here in the states on AT&T's network with the HTC Touch Pro? Is there a program? flashing it? please let me know. thanks
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Don't buy...getting hustled (though who cares about 3G...this phone rocks)

Touch Pro Differences: Unlocked, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T

What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
Pinguino1 said:
What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
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Without a doubt the Verizon version is the most crippled. They cut the RAM to 192, CPU is slower and took out the accelerometer. Plus it costs more.
where is everyone getting this "verizon took out the accelerometer" crap?
cellulararrest said:
where is everyone getting this "verizon took out the accelerometer" crap?
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One of the main stream gadget blogs posts about it, but I looked on HTC's site regarding the Verizon version and looks like that part is still intact. Everything else though still stands.
Pinguino1 said:
What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
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Uhhh, you are atempting to directly compare the 'crippleness' of an AT&T or "unlocked" GMS phone to CDMA models?
For starters, you'd best declare that you are aware that CDMA devices are absolutely LOCKED to their branded carrier --- unless a third-party carrier is willing to accept another's device. Unless one is content with their carrier that may certainly be crippling status of a phone.
Keystone said:
Uhhh, you are atempting to directly compare the 'crippleness' of an AT&T or "unlocked" GMS phone to CDMA models?
For starters, you'd best declare that you are aware that CDMA devices are absolutely LOCKED to their branded carrier --- unless a third-party carrier is willing to accept another's device. Unless one is content with their carrier that may certainly be crippling status of a phone.
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Hi Keystone,
Of course I know the differences of GSM and CDMA technologies.
What I'm attempting is to compare features added or removed from the the original HTC. LIke I'm aware AT&T changed the keyboard layout.
Do you know what other features have been modified by those carriers?
tribalmunky said:
Without a doubt the Verizon version is the most crippled. They cut the RAM to 192, CPU is slower and took out the accelerometer. Plus it costs more.
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I believe the CPU still the same. I read somewhere a guy posted wrongly that it was a 400mhz. As far as specs, it is still the MSM201A 528MHZ.
I haven't seen the Sprint one, but apparently is the more intact of all.
I had in my hands the Fuze in an AT&T store, the Keyboard has a numbers pad ovelaying the alpha keys. But I verified it has accelerometer but slow or unresponsive
I think actual verizon, sprint and AT&T owners can tell what changes were made to their devices.
If I ever decide to go for one of those I don't want surprises.
Is the one coming out on Verizon include all those people and the dude with a clip board following you around, or did they remove that too?
HTC Touch ProVS US Touch Pro/Fuse/Sprint/Verizon
The Unbranded Touch Pro as you would Call it Has Dual Cameras For Video Confrencing And has No Bloatware Like Us Versions of the phone meaning there's no Network Software loaded on the phone other then HTC Apps.Now Some of the US Versions of the Touch pro Are A little Different First being none of the us Versions Have Dual Cameras as Video Confrencing is not on Any Us Network at this time But i did post a app called ivisit that is real Video Confrencing you can download on xda Search www.ivisit.com But Anyways..lol The Att Version of the Touch pro AkA Fuse Is just like the HTC Version keyboard layout was changed And the Soft touch Back was Droped The Sprint Back of there Touch pro They Diden't Even keep the Diamond Shape Back its All Smoth And Red So you See us networks Try not to change the phones to much but Somtimes they End up Droping alot of Features IE Verizons Version of the Touch pro Not kool What they Did to that phone....lol Att by far Has it right on the money With the Fuse Just no Soft touch back.......So now you see OH And Htc Version is not US 3G yet
nucentury08 said:
The Unbranded Touch Pro as you would Call it Has Dual Cameras For Video Confrencing And has No Bloatware Like Us Versions of the phone meaning there's no Network Software loaded on the phone other then HTC Apps.Now Some of the US Versions of the Touch pro Are A little Different First being none of the us Versions Have Dual Cameras as Video Confrencing is not on Any Us Network at this time But i did post a app called ivisit that is real Video Confrencing you can download on xda Search www.ivisit.com But Anyways..lol The Att Version of the Touch pro AkA Fuse Is just like the HTC Version keyboard layout was changed And the Soft touch Back was Droped The Sprint Back of there Touch pro They Diden't Even keep the Diamond Shape Back its All Smoth And Red So you See us networks Try not to change the phones to much but Somtimes they End up Droping alot of Features IE Verizons Version of the Touch pro Not kool What they Did to that phone....lol Att by far Has it right on the money With the Fuse Just no Soft touch back.......So now you see OH And Htc Version is not US 3G yet
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I assume there's some information in there somewhere...hmm
Pinguino1 said:
Hi Keystone,
Of course I know the differences of GSM and CDMA technologies.
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Ahh right, sorry...just on this forum some are very confused when concerning CDMA.
The Telus & Bell releases are spot-on the same as the internal hardware of the Sprint model. The exterior just isn't the red -- flat black smooth battery covers instead.

Need suggestions on next phone

i have a Treo 800w and can not get VoIP working and looks like after lots of research it isn't gonna happen.
so i am looking at upgrading my sprint treo 800w to an HTC device.
so which has the most options/rom's and so on that has a keyboard on, no touch keyboards for me. i seem to not be able to type and drive at the same time with em to well.
thanks for the input. btw, we may also be switching carriers to wither t-mobile, alltel or verizon.
just need some input.
thanks again
completetech said:
i have a Treo 800w and can not get VoIP working and looks like after lots of research it isn't gonna happen.
so i am looking at upgrading my sprint treo 800w to an HTC device.
so which has the most options/rom's and so on that has a keyboard on, no touch keyboards for me. i seem to not be able to type and drive at the same time with em to well.
thanks for the input. btw, we may also be switching carriers to wither t-mobile, alltel or verizon.
just need some input.
thanks again
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Welcome to the forum
Being a Universal user I agree with you about the physical keyboard!
If you dont mind to wait a few months check Touch Pro 2, it seems a good option.
completetech said:
btw, we may also be switching carriers to wither t-mobile, alltel or verizon.
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Personally, I would stay away from cdma networks if you are going to get an htc device. Tmob and Att would suit you best and customer service is above par.
im in the seame trouble, but i have a big big problem i live in mexico and the news phones is too dificult have in my distribuitor(telcel) i want a Htc pro 2 i the most complete phone, i have a nokia n95 is good, i have a htc excalibur with wm6.1 with cavanna´s rom, is more good jajajjaa,one of my best friends have a xperia, i like but i like omnia but htc pro 2 is the perfect device but i can´t have because telcel is too late for offer devices.
other option is buy in web but that is after i change model by telcel
thanks

[Q] Data sense availability

Hey guys,
Just got the HTC Windows Phone 8X, coming from an HTC Evo 3D. Huge improvement speed wise. Still getting used to WP8.
Anyway, anyone knows what's the availability on different carries for data sense? I know it's available for Verizon, but anyone knows when it's going to be released for other carries? I'm with Bell in Canada.
jValdron said:
Hey guys,
Just got the HTC Windows Phone 8X, coming from an HTC Evo 3D. Huge improvement speed wise. Still getting used to WP8.
Anyway, anyone knows what's the availability on different carries for data sense? I know it's available for Verizon, but anyone knows when it's going to be released for other carries? I'm with Bell in Canada.
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Can only speak for Germany - so here we have O² only, who have it already installed on their branded devices!
TheGardner said:
Can only speak for Germany - so here we have O² only, who have it already installed on their branded devices!
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You sure? I tried a few O2 branded Lumias and couldn't find it anywhere I'm on FONIC so if O2 really has it, I hope all O2's MVNO will eventually support it as well.
igoramadas said:
You sure? I tried a few O2 branded Lumias and couldn't find it anywhere I'm on FONIC so if O2 really has it, I hope all O2's MVNO will eventually support it as well.
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hmm, looks like not all of the MVNOs have it already!
Can only tell, what I've heard in the German forums! Seems only the main O2 provider have it ready at the time!

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