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Need help buying a new HTC phone unlocked.

I'm planning on ditching Sprint for ATT or T-Mobile because I cant get any international texts. Sprint claims its an issue with the international carriers. However, I was with T-Mob for years with the same number and I got tects from, England, Ireland, Germany, Nigeria etc.
Anyway, does anyone know of a good unlocked HTC PDA phone that will work with ATTs HSDPA(yeah I know about the tilt but it sucks). Any ideas please?

if ur willing to suffer for another month or two, the new Diamond is coming out for tmobile, which (except for battery time) is gonna be a whole new breed of ppc. if ur willing to switch to tmobile then yay for u, especially since tmobile is coming out with new 3G thats faster than ATT. if not im sure that there'll be a way to unlock it within 2 weeks of release. anyway good luck.

I've been eyeing the HTC Cruise(Polaris) lately. Actually I've spent the last 3 hours researching it and i think I'll make the jump. It's gonna force me to go to ATT since it will only work on their 3G spectrum.
It might just be me but I'm not intrigued by the diamond. The only upside is has above the Cruise is the today UI, which I'm sure wil be ported over as a cab once the diamond is released.

alabij said:
I've been eyeing the HTC Cruise(Polaris) lately. Actually I've spent the last 3 hours researching it and i think I'll make the jump. It's gonna force me to go to ATT since it will only work on their 3G spectrum.
It might just be me but I'm not intrigued by the diamond. The only upside is has above the Cruise is the today UI, which I'm sure wil be ported over as a cab once the diamond is released.
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Well the diamond also has a faster processor and 4x the resolution screen as well as more ram compared to the Cruise.

www.expansys.com sell unlock phones in many countries
and diamond dont have 4X resolution it got 2X
if it had 4X it would be a 1280x960 device

AT&T "Tilt II" Touch Pro / Raphael Discussion

Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.

north american version has passed your ffc fcc? federal communication ...

kareem9nba said:
Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
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99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM

AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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Well I don't know whether to be happy or said :S and i hope the X1 wont outperform it.

I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
I will snoop around on my side and report anything to this thread with any positive news.

Lol, I would say they're that bad , however i can imagine them releasing it sometimes in Q4 (October-ish?) or early Q1 of next year.

I thought CDMA version is coming out first for Verizon. or was it for Sprint... I read it somewhere in Engadget or BGR.

this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.

Why does the US seem to get this stuff last? I blame it on the carrier cartel that refuses to adopt the mobile phone industry models the rest of the world has.

If the only experience with HTC i had was my wizard, I'd be all over the Raphael. I paid 588USD for the tilt (off-contract) and get the shaft from them. Now, I'm up for a phone upgrade, and I'd really, really like to get my hands on this device, but I don't know if I trust them anymore.
Still LOOKS kickass, though.

AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond

Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)

M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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That hos nothing to do with it. Verizon, Tmobile, and all the US carriers can pick up the phone. Whether another carrier decides to pick it up or not doesn't mean that ATT wont.

M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.

AllTheWay said:
I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
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i have talked to a certain someone... might not have to wait a couple of days to prove this person wrong...

The Juggler said:
Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
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there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!

shogunmark said:
there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
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I would be VERY surprised if the Raph couldnt be sorted out like this, remember the Hermes didnt have necessary bands for telstra in AU which was eventually sorted with a hack to allow the necessary frequency to be used.
Details details people, if AT&T were going to use it i imagine the bands situation would be trivial, im sure they are going to carry it.

herg62123 said:
this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
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Why would they call it a "Tilt"? The Touch Pro's screen doesn't tilt like the Kaiser does it?

lavalamp said:
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
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You and I can hope but I'm 98% sure you're right. Trends point to AT&T releasing this sometime next year, as to not disturb the X1 and without the front facing cam. Right now it seems like Sprint is going to get this first as they're getting the Diamond sometime in September.

OK well lets just say in a matter of days we shall see if AT&T WILL be carrying the Raphael..............or not.

buying Blackstone in the US

Hey there
a friend's dad is in Alabama... and I was wondering if anyone knows where he would be able to buy a Touch HD and a Touch Pro WITHOUT a plan.. i just want the devices.
I went to the HTC website and all shops are service provider shops.. it's really urgent as he's staying there for only 2 more days... and i don't know how this works in the US.. with the plans and all
thanks in advance

Hd isn't sold in the US, You can by a touch Pro outright though from a service Provider.
EDIT: Are you looking for the gsm version or cdma?

GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth

No HD in the U.S.
nir36 said:
GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth
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Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.

att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma

joel2009 said:
att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma
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Yup your right, AT&T is currently the only GSM carrier in the U.S. that does offer the TP and like you stated above, all the others are CDMA.

You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.

wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?

denco7 said:
You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.
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Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
nir36 said:
wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?
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What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!

master athlon said:
Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.
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That's what I did, my old man lives in the states and I got him to get a fuze on his contract and now use it here in Australia (it looks a little stupid with the AT&T logo on the front though )

master athlon said:
Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!
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http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1365
Diamond with SD (400Mhz processor, but who cares)

Huge question

I have an UNLOCKED HTC 4350 (I Think it's aslo called the herald)
I have WM6 On It And I Want 6.1.
How Do I Do This Since My Phone Isnt Listed
What Phone Is Out There That Is JUST Like This One?
I Was Thinking Either The Mogul, Wing, Or The Tilt Idk
Its Unlocked So If I Choose One Of These Phones, Like The Sprint Mogul, It Will Install Sprint TV, When It Comes On It Will Say Sprint And All That.
But I'm WITH AT&T
Hopefully Someone Can Help Me
Thanks In Advance

You have a Herald if you're using it with AT&T.
This is a good starting point:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397

lol, all capital?

XDA Serra/HTC Touch Pro

Hmmm so I called O2 today because I wanted the above phone, but been told they have been discontinued :-(
Anyone know of a good phone that is a good replacement? I really like the features of that one with the slide out Qwerty keyboard and such. I currently have the XDA Stellar/HTC Kaiser.
Appreciate any advice!
Thanks very much

Touch Pro 2 would be the equivalent device as slide out keyboard and the next model up.

They don't have that model :-( any others come to mind?

It looks like the only windows mobile phone o2 are currently offering is the xda zest (Asus Galaxy 7).
The HTC Leo is rumoured to be coming soon, but it may be a bit of a wait for one with a keyboard. You might want to consider a sim only deal and look to purchase your phone from elsewhere.
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T-mobile have the Touch Pro (named MDA Vario IV), and offer very good unlimited internet.