AT&T "Tilt II" Touch Pro / Raphael Discussion - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.

north american version has passed your ffc fcc? federal communication ...

kareem9nba said:
Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
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99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM

AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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Well I don't know whether to be happy or said :S and i hope the X1 wont outperform it.

I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
I will snoop around on my side and report anything to this thread with any positive news.

Lol, I would say they're that bad , however i can imagine them releasing it sometimes in Q4 (October-ish?) or early Q1 of next year.

I thought CDMA version is coming out first for Verizon. or was it for Sprint... I read it somewhere in Engadget or BGR.

this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.

Why does the US seem to get this stuff last? I blame it on the carrier cartel that refuses to adopt the mobile phone industry models the rest of the world has.

If the only experience with HTC i had was my wizard, I'd be all over the Raphael. I paid 588USD for the tilt (off-contract) and get the shaft from them. Now, I'm up for a phone upgrade, and I'd really, really like to get my hands on this device, but I don't know if I trust them anymore.
Still LOOKS kickass, though.

AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond

Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)

M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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That hos nothing to do with it. Verizon, Tmobile, and all the US carriers can pick up the phone. Whether another carrier decides to pick it up or not doesn't mean that ATT wont.

M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.

AllTheWay said:
I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
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i have talked to a certain someone... might not have to wait a couple of days to prove this person wrong...

The Juggler said:
Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
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there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!

shogunmark said:
there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
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I would be VERY surprised if the Raph couldnt be sorted out like this, remember the Hermes didnt have necessary bands for telstra in AU which was eventually sorted with a hack to allow the necessary frequency to be used.
Details details people, if AT&T were going to use it i imagine the bands situation would be trivial, im sure they are going to carry it.

herg62123 said:
this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
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Why would they call it a "Tilt"? The Touch Pro's screen doesn't tilt like the Kaiser does it?

lavalamp said:
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
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You and I can hope but I'm 98% sure you're right. Trends point to AT&T releasing this sometime next year, as to not disturb the X1 and without the front facing cam. Right now it seems like Sprint is going to get this first as they're getting the Diamond sometime in September.

OK well lets just say in a matter of days we shall see if AT&T WILL be carrying the Raphael..............or not.

Related

Need help buying a new HTC phone unlocked.

I'm planning on ditching Sprint for ATT or T-Mobile because I cant get any international texts. Sprint claims its an issue with the international carriers. However, I was with T-Mob for years with the same number and I got tects from, England, Ireland, Germany, Nigeria etc.
Anyway, does anyone know of a good unlocked HTC PDA phone that will work with ATTs HSDPA(yeah I know about the tilt but it sucks). Any ideas please?
if ur willing to suffer for another month or two, the new Diamond is coming out for tmobile, which (except for battery time) is gonna be a whole new breed of ppc. if ur willing to switch to tmobile then yay for u, especially since tmobile is coming out with new 3G thats faster than ATT. if not im sure that there'll be a way to unlock it within 2 weeks of release. anyway good luck.
I've been eyeing the HTC Cruise(Polaris) lately. Actually I've spent the last 3 hours researching it and i think I'll make the jump. It's gonna force me to go to ATT since it will only work on their 3G spectrum.
It might just be me but I'm not intrigued by the diamond. The only upside is has above the Cruise is the today UI, which I'm sure wil be ported over as a cab once the diamond is released.
alabij said:
I've been eyeing the HTC Cruise(Polaris) lately. Actually I've spent the last 3 hours researching it and i think I'll make the jump. It's gonna force me to go to ATT since it will only work on their 3G spectrum.
It might just be me but I'm not intrigued by the diamond. The only upside is has above the Cruise is the today UI, which I'm sure wil be ported over as a cab once the diamond is released.
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Well the diamond also has a faster processor and 4x the resolution screen as well as more ram compared to the Cruise.
www.expansys.com sell unlock phones in many countries
and diamond dont have 4X resolution it got 2X
if it had 4X it would be a 1280x960 device

Touch Pro Differences: Unlocked, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T

What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
Pinguino1 said:
What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
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Without a doubt the Verizon version is the most crippled. They cut the RAM to 192, CPU is slower and took out the accelerometer. Plus it costs more.
where is everyone getting this "verizon took out the accelerometer" crap?
cellulararrest said:
where is everyone getting this "verizon took out the accelerometer" crap?
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One of the main stream gadget blogs posts about it, but I looked on HTC's site regarding the Verizon version and looks like that part is still intact. Everything else though still stands.
Pinguino1 said:
What are the diffrences in the branding
for the three USA carriers
Verizon
Sprint
AT&T Fuze
Which is the most untached?
Which the most crippled?
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Uhhh, you are atempting to directly compare the 'crippleness' of an AT&T or "unlocked" GMS phone to CDMA models?
For starters, you'd best declare that you are aware that CDMA devices are absolutely LOCKED to their branded carrier --- unless a third-party carrier is willing to accept another's device. Unless one is content with their carrier that may certainly be crippling status of a phone.
Keystone said:
Uhhh, you are atempting to directly compare the 'crippleness' of an AT&T or "unlocked" GMS phone to CDMA models?
For starters, you'd best declare that you are aware that CDMA devices are absolutely LOCKED to their branded carrier --- unless a third-party carrier is willing to accept another's device. Unless one is content with their carrier that may certainly be crippling status of a phone.
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Hi Keystone,
Of course I know the differences of GSM and CDMA technologies.
What I'm attempting is to compare features added or removed from the the original HTC. LIke I'm aware AT&T changed the keyboard layout.
Do you know what other features have been modified by those carriers?
tribalmunky said:
Without a doubt the Verizon version is the most crippled. They cut the RAM to 192, CPU is slower and took out the accelerometer. Plus it costs more.
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I believe the CPU still the same. I read somewhere a guy posted wrongly that it was a 400mhz. As far as specs, it is still the MSM201A 528MHZ.
I haven't seen the Sprint one, but apparently is the more intact of all.
I had in my hands the Fuze in an AT&T store, the Keyboard has a numbers pad ovelaying the alpha keys. But I verified it has accelerometer but slow or unresponsive
I think actual verizon, sprint and AT&T owners can tell what changes were made to their devices.
If I ever decide to go for one of those I don't want surprises.
Is the one coming out on Verizon include all those people and the dude with a clip board following you around, or did they remove that too?
HTC Touch ProVS US Touch Pro/Fuse/Sprint/Verizon
The Unbranded Touch Pro as you would Call it Has Dual Cameras For Video Confrencing And has No Bloatware Like Us Versions of the phone meaning there's no Network Software loaded on the phone other then HTC Apps.Now Some of the US Versions of the Touch pro Are A little Different First being none of the us Versions Have Dual Cameras as Video Confrencing is not on Any Us Network at this time But i did post a app called ivisit that is real Video Confrencing you can download on xda Search www.ivisit.com But Anyways..lol The Att Version of the Touch pro AkA Fuse Is just like the HTC Version keyboard layout was changed And the Soft touch Back was Droped The Sprint Back of there Touch pro They Diden't Even keep the Diamond Shape Back its All Smoth And Red So you See us networks Try not to change the phones to much but Somtimes they End up Droping alot of Features IE Verizons Version of the Touch pro Not kool What they Did to that phone....lol Att by far Has it right on the money With the Fuse Just no Soft touch back.......So now you see OH And Htc Version is not US 3G yet
nucentury08 said:
The Unbranded Touch Pro as you would Call it Has Dual Cameras For Video Confrencing And has No Bloatware Like Us Versions of the phone meaning there's no Network Software loaded on the phone other then HTC Apps.Now Some of the US Versions of the Touch pro Are A little Different First being none of the us Versions Have Dual Cameras as Video Confrencing is not on Any Us Network at this time But i did post a app called ivisit that is real Video Confrencing you can download on xda Search www.ivisit.com But Anyways..lol The Att Version of the Touch pro AkA Fuse Is just like the HTC Version keyboard layout was changed And the Soft touch Back was Droped The Sprint Back of there Touch pro They Diden't Even keep the Diamond Shape Back its All Smoth And Red So you See us networks Try not to change the phones to much but Somtimes they End up Droping alot of Features IE Verizons Version of the Touch pro Not kool What they Did to that phone....lol Att by far Has it right on the money With the Fuse Just no Soft touch back.......So now you see OH And Htc Version is not US 3G yet
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I assume there's some information in there somewhere...hmm
Pinguino1 said:
Hi Keystone,
Of course I know the differences of GSM and CDMA technologies.
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Ahh right, sorry...just on this forum some are very confused when concerning CDMA.
The Telus & Bell releases are spot-on the same as the internal hardware of the Sprint model. The exterior just isn't the red -- flat black smooth battery covers instead.

buying Blackstone in the US

Hey there
a friend's dad is in Alabama... and I was wondering if anyone knows where he would be able to buy a Touch HD and a Touch Pro WITHOUT a plan.. i just want the devices.
I went to the HTC website and all shops are service provider shops.. it's really urgent as he's staying there for only 2 more days... and i don't know how this works in the US.. with the plans and all
thanks in advance
Hd isn't sold in the US, You can by a touch Pro outright though from a service Provider.
EDIT: Are you looking for the gsm version or cdma?
GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth
No HD in the U.S.
nir36 said:
GSM.. for israel.
the HD isn't sold in the US AT ALL? or only in AT&T.. T-Mobile.. and so forth
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Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.
att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma
joel2009 said:
att is gsm, i don't think tmobile has it yet (i know they are getting it though)
...and just about every other major carrier in the US is cdma
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Yup your right, AT&T is currently the only GSM carrier in the U.S. that does offer the TP and like you stated above, all the others are CDMA.
You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.
wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?
denco7 said:
You might want to check it out though, The AT$T Touch Pro is the Fuze. I think AT$T had HTC do some subtle changes to the TP to make it a Fuze. Ask NATF, he has a Fuze.
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Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
nir36 said:
wait, what about a diamond with an SD card?
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What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!
master athlon said:
Nope we didn't get the HD at all, not a single service provider has one. You can get a Touch Pro from AT&T by paying $500 to buy it without a contract, but you'd have to unlock it.
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That's what I did, my old man lives in the states and I got him to get a fuze on his contract and now use it here in Australia (it looks a little stupid with the AT&T logo on the front though )
master athlon said:
Yeah, AT&T got the keyboard layout changed(for the better IMO, but each to their own) but other than that i think everything else is the same.
What?!?!? Is there a different version of the Diamond that supports SD cards?!?!
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http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1365
Diamond with SD (400Mhz processor, but who cares)

Huawei Mate 9 on Sprint network in US?

I have been excited about this phone coming to the US for some time now, long time fan of the + sized Galaxy Note range. I can't find any straight answers about if the Mate 9 will work on Sprints 4g network or not at this point. If there is no simple Yes/No answer to that I would greatly appreciate being pointed in the right direction outlining the steps I may have to take. Thanks everyone!
Unless there is a sprint-specific version released, you could expect 4G data but no phone calls in the very best case scenario, and no data, no phone calls in the very worst scenario.
duraaraa said:
Unless there is a sprint-specific version released, you could expect 4G data but no phone calls in the very best case scenario, and no data, no phone calls in the very worst scenario.
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I see. So it sounds like I should give up on having one of these as it seems the best case scenario involves a phone that can't make calls.
I would wait to see what happens when it's released in the US. The Kirin 960 is CDMA compatible, but I believe it still has to pass certification to use it in the US.
dscline said:
I would wait to see what happens when it's released in the US. The Kirin 960 is CDMA compatible, but I believe it still has to pass certification to use it in the US.
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Sprint doesn't use CDMA I have heard so it's looking grim for me on that network, maybe I'll consider changing to a different network, well see what happens Jan 6th but we're pretty close already and no good news on that front.
January 9th is supposed to be the official North American release, so you could just wait until then to see if what models are released. Not too far away really. But it is unlikely that a Sprint-compatible version will come out. Time to decide what you want more, the Mate 9, or to be a Sprint customer? If you're were willing to pay full price for the phone anyway (which I'm assuming you were), why not switch to AT&T or T-Mo prepaid?
jjbuckley said:
Sprint doesn't use CDMA I have heard
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http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/0...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
swordstool said:
January 9th is supposed to be the official North American release, so you could just wait until then to see if what models are released. Not too far away really. But it is unlikely that a Sprint-compatible version will come out. Time to decide what you want more, the Mate 9, or to be a Sprint customer? If you're were willing to pay full price for the phone anyway (which I'm assuming you were), why not switch to AT&T or T-Mo prepaid?
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I may switch, the reason to stay is actually a pretty good one and that's that as long as I'm on Sprint my phone bill is pretty much free month to month. I want this phone badly but maybe not bad enough to give that up
jjbuckley said:
I may switch, the reason to stay is actually a pretty good one and that's that as long as I'm on Sprint my phone bill is pretty much free month to month. I want this phone badly but maybe not bad enough to give that up
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Hey man, that's probably the best reason to NOT switch! And It's January 6th for the official NA release, not the 9th as I previously wrote. See here: http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-9-us-launch-january-6-735313/
I asked Huawei about Verizon and they said I would need to wait for the US release to know if it would be Verizon compatible. I'm betting that's a soft "no"...
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emtownsend said:
I asked Huawei about Verizon and they said I would need to wait for the US release to know if it would be Verizon compatible. I'm betting that's a soft "no"...
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As I mentioned earlier, the hardware is capable. But this quote from Anandtech questions when it will be certified:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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As I mentioned earlier, the hardware is capable. But this quote from Anandtech questions when it will be certified:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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Thank you for that info. I did not see it before.
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Petition for US release

PLEASE SIGN:good::good::fingers-crossed::highfive:
It will be released in your market. Just give it some time.
lebigmac said:
It will be released in your market. Just give it some time.
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Can you confirm this?
You do know that the petition means absolutely nothing. Unless you get a couple off million signatures, no one will even notice. If you want the device then import it. Just dont be surprised if not everything works.
I imported mine. It works just fine on tmobile and att.
nickmgray said:
I imported mine. It works just fine on tmobile and att.
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I am thinking of doing the same. Where did you get it from and for how much in USD? Was shipping expensive?
PS: Been following all your videos on the u11 and u11+
Nileshdd said:
I am thinking of doing the same. Where did you get it from and for how much in USD? Was shipping expensive?
PS: Been following all your videos on the u11 and u11+
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I was lucky enough to have a friend pick it up at an HTC store and ship it to me directly. There seem to be a few people on eBay selling the phone already, but it'll probably be another 2-3 weeks before online retailers start selling the device.
nickmgray said:
I imported mine. It works just fine on tmobile and att.
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could you start a small review thread, especially related to the battery life? thanks
have you had an U11 also? If so, how does the sound of the top/bottom boom speaker compare to that.
If it is compatible with all AT&T bands I might get one as well. What all carriers is the UK version fully compatible with in the US?
Query about TMO
nickmgray said:
I was lucky enough to have a friend pick it up at an HTC store and ship it to me directly. There seem to be a few people on eBay selling the phone already, but it'll probably be another 2-3 weeks before online retailers start selling the device.
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Hi Nick
Can I ask a few questions?
I am considering importing the U11+ from Taiwan.
I am on TMO which uses these LTE Bands - 2, 4, 12, 66, 71
The U11, which I currently have has these - 2, 4, 12, 66
The U11+ only has these bands - 4, 12
Now, I used LTE Discovery and found that my phone was 90% on Band 4, with 2 and 12 used once in a while.
What are your thoughts on U11+ working fine for my use case? It does have Band 4, 12 but am worried the lack of other bands may create issues in some other locations.
It does have 1900 MHZ (Band 2) for 3G/2G, so I think if I go into an area which has Band 2, I can only get 3G speeds.
Hope I am not causing too much trouble.
Thanks
Nilesh

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