.....and hit "Network". All of a sudden it says,UMTS! Up till yesterday it said HSDPA. How and why did that change? I know Engadget and Phonedog did articles on the fact that these phones have HSDPA listed in the settings,instead of HSPA+. When Engadget contacted AT&T they said something like they would explain it after the phone is launched. From HSDPA to UMTS? Please let us know if this setting has changed in your phone?
mine is showing same now.
now mine is back to hsdpa
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What do you mean? Did it switch to UMTS and go back to HSDPA?
i got HSDPA
I'm getting UMTS.
it will change depending on what tower and equipment you are connected to ...
as soon as one set of equipment on a tower gets loaded you get moved down to the next lower (older) equipment ... so to speak ...
also weather can affect it ... antennas can freeze over making it not always work with as good coverage as it should be ... because of high winds...
the list can go on and on ...
yea it did switch back on its own. perhaps doing some system upgrades
if you watch it enough, you will see it can switch hundreds of times throughout the day ...
im less then a mile from the tower dude shouldnt be switching and flat land
unless at&t is doing something to their network. right now im showing HSDPA.
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im less then a mile from the tower dude shouldnt be switching and flat land
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thats the airwaves for ya ... weather and quite a few other things play with them all the time and can change signal quality at the flick of a tail ...
Not a weather issue. Not a terrain issue. I'm in NYC. 5 blocks from a tower. Never switched back and forth. It was HSDPA till yesterday since the 17th. It's gotta be an ATT issue. Who knows what theyre up to?
You need to take it back and get another one before the 30 days is up
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Well it looks like mines back to HSDPA. This is strange. What's the diff between HSDPA & UMTS?
Hsdpa is 3.6Mbps, umts is 384kbps. Hsdpa is a newer add on to 3g which is considered 3.5g. Umts is just the original 3g specification.
Now I'm back on UMTS. What the hell. Is this normal?
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UMTS
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Now I'm back on UMTS. What the hell. Is this normal?
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Back to UMTS! Dunno what this means?
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Try going to your phone and type in *#2263#, go to WCDMA and choose the 850MHz band exclusively and go back and choose all the GSM bands. EVERYTHING except the 1900MHz WCDMA band.
I've noticed that my phone tries to hang onto a one bar 1900 connection than rather switch to a five bar 850 one.
Serendipity 5.7, latest speed mod and JL2 modem
Not every area uses both.
Though it is pretty well known that the non captivate modems show a preference for the 1900 band.
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well some areas do and its fun to see if your i9000 modem could be giving you better reception. I know that at school I only get one bar of 1900 and four-five of 850. I expect other people are in the same scenario
"Selection is restricted" message on stock ROM.
on stock Rome you won't have this problem
Well, your title and original post make no distinction that this info is just for modded ROM users. That's one of my gripes about this place. Yeah, there's lots of great info, but often it is very confusing and little is said about who it is aimed at because the posters assume everyone is at the same level of understanding. I'm not picking on you, specifically.
Miami_Son
Why did you leave Miami for LA?
Just kidding
My phone says "Rejected." after hitting call. Running Serendipity 5.7
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Why did you leave Miami for LA?
Just kidding
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Fewer a-holes in CA.
"Rejected" using Andromeda 1.0 (KP1)
i only had bad reception in my house, at&t sent me that microcell thing and now i get 5 bars
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i only had bad reception in my house, at&t sent me that microcell thing and now i get 5 bars
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For free? How'd you wrangle that?
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i only had bad reception in my house, at&t sent me that microcell thing and now i get 5 bars
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Never heard of it, what's a microcell thing?
THANKS TC!!!
I was only getting 1 bar and now I am getting 3 minimum indoors! And I am running Official Froyo 2.2 (Canada) and it worked perfectly! : )
Works great on my stock captivate
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For free? How'd you wrangle that?
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yes for FREE!!
at&t sent me a letter saying i qualified for a free MicroCell
I didnt believe it at 1st so went to my at&t store showed him the letter and the rep. gave me the micro cell and said have a nice day. i asked thats it no contract or anynthing, he said NOPE your good to go...
I just got my thunderbolt and my 4g keeps dropping.... Is there a problem?
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Ever since the nationwide outtage a week ago my 4g has been spotty at best.
I have noticed slower 4g speeds on average and it drops alot more as well.
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I just got my thunderbolt and my 4g keeps dropping.... Is there a problem?
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yeah, stop dropping it
I had the same problem after spending a weekend in Mexico - they replaced my SIM card at the store and it has worked fine ever sense.
I keep cycling through 3g/1X and the network is constantly unavailable, wtf is going on? Im so disappointed with this phone so far.
I dont know if I need to install a new radio? I installed bamfs remix 1.6 and some lean kernel, did I do something wrong? My Incredible never had these issues
Where do you live? That obviously matters, 4g coverage keeps expanding in Chicagoland area, I get 4g almost everywhere I go.
I live in Akron, I get full 4g bars then it drops to nothing, then 1x, then 3G. its unreal
Did you enter your address in the coverage map? Don't know how big Akron 4g coverage is, but again, I rarely ever lose 4g around Chicago and the burbs.
Unrooted BOLT, same issue with connection
I have been seeing the same about the connectivity being bad. I live in burbs of Philadelphia, only about 20 mins from city so i'm not going to pin it on my location..
So you are rooted? I however am not. Just got the thing and wanted to see how it was for a bit before rooting, but now i'm thinking before i root i better make sure the phone isn't crap or i'm not gonna be able to return it.
Ugh. Let me know if you're going to try and call VZ, HTC, or whatever. PM me if you find anything.
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I keep cycling through 3g/1X and the network is constantly unavailable, wtf is going on? Im so disappointed with this phone so far.
I dont know if I need to install a new radio? I installed bamfs remix 1.6 and some lean kernel, did I do something wrong? My Incredible never had these issues
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it's not just the 4 g service I can even keep a 3g signal have the time and I use to have no problems on my incredible
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it's not just the 4 g service I can even keep a 3g signal have the time and I use to have no problems on my incredible
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Cant ***
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I'm in Wilmington, DE.
Mine is going up and down, as well as getting 3G or just bars in areas that should be 4G.
Another person in the office here, which should be good 4G, also having his phone do the same.
I'm rooted, he is stock.
It happens to me just about anywhere I go lately.
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I have been seeing the same about the connectivity being bad. I live in burbs of Philadelphia, only about 20 mins from city so i'm not going to pin it on my location..
So you are rooted? I however am not. Just got the thing and wanted to see how it was for a bit before rooting, but now i'm thinking before i root i better make sure the phone isn't crap or i'm not gonna be able to return it.
Ugh. Let me know if you're going to try and call VZ, HTC, or whatever. PM me if you find anything.
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I don't know where you got that information from but thats false. You can easily return to a complete stock state after rooting if need be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
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I have been seeing the same about the connectivity being bad. I live in burbs of Philadelphia, only about 20 mins from city so i'm not going to pin it on my location..
So you are rooted? I however am not. Just got the thing and wanted to see how it was for a bit before rooting, but now i'm thinking before i root i better make sure the phone isn't crap or i'm not gonna be able to return it.
Ugh. Let me know if you're going to try and call VZ, HTC, or whatever. PM me if you find anything.
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Pretty much from Mid-County to the Lehigh Valley exit is still 3G in most areas but south towards the city and in the Lehigh Valley itself is all LTE. I travel down from Allentown to Philly regularly and I can tell you this from personal experience.
FYI Lehigh Valley LTE is down right now but I just got out of a meeting with Verizon (less than an hour ago) and they supposedly knew there was some maintenance being done in our area (so that may be the reason for the current outage.) If you switch out of LTE Mode to CDMA LTE auto you should pick up 3G (I'd also enable airplane mode and then disable it to pick up a strong 3G for right now.)
Oh and +1 on the rooted/non-rooted thing. You can flash back to non-rooted stock from a rooted state to send it back. Instructions are in the development forum.
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Pretty much from Mid-County to the Lehigh Valley exit is still 3G in most areas but south towards the city and in the Lehigh Valley itself is all LTE. I travel down from Allentown to Philly regularly and I can tell you this from personal experience.
FYI Lehigh Valley LTE is down right now but I just got out of a meeting with Verizon (less than an hour ago) and they supposedly knew there was some maintenance being done in our area (so that may be the reason for the current outage.) If you switch out of LTE Mode to CDMA LTE auto you should pick up 3G (I'd also enable airplane mode and then disable it to pick up a strong 3G for right now.)
Oh and +1 on the rooted/non-rooted thing. You can flash back to non-rooted stock from a rooted state to send it back. Instructions are in the development forum.
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Hi there, thanks for that info i appreciate it. I seem to be missing where htc allows us to switch btwn the 4g and 3g, i searched for the question but didn't get much results. So i'll my noob question right here. Where is that done?
I see under Settings > Wire & networks > Mobile network settings there is a System select option, for "Change the cdma roaming mode", is this where i'm supposed to be? Roaming doesn't seem to be the area i'd think to have to change this particular thing, but i don't see much else in these menus. Please advise or link a thread that i didn't see in my results.
Verizon has a problem with their new eHRPD network.. which is what the Thunderbolt is on by default.. (this allows for 4G + simultaneous talk and browse on 3G).. However, though 4G works OK, 3G doesn't seem to.
In order to tap into Verizon's original 3G network.. dial ##778# on your phone.. go to edit mode (you'll see pop up after you dial that number)..password is 000000 (6 zeros).. go to modem settings.. Rev.A and eHRPD is probably selected there by default.. choose "Enable" option... which will kick it out of eHRPD and then hit menu.. commit changes.. and the phone will reboot. You'll be on Verizon's original 3G network which will work fine.. but you won't have 4G.
I don't know about you but I still have 4g...
4g
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I don't know about you but I still have 4g...
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I knew N.J. was better
Go Giants!!
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Verizon has a problem with their new eHRPD network.. which is what the Thunderbolt is on by default.. (this allows for 4G + simultaneous talk and browse on 3G).. However, though 4G works OK, 3G doesn't seem to.
In order to tap into Verizon's original 3G network.. dial ##778# on your phone.. go to edit mode (you'll see pop up after you dial that number)..password is 000000 (6 zeros).. go to modem settings.. Rev.A and eHRPD is probably selected there by default.. choose "Enable" option... which will kick it out of eHRPD and then hit menu.. commit changes.. and the phone will reboot. You'll be on Verizon's original 3G network which will work fine.. but you won't have 4G.
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that defeats the purpose eh? Is this the same thing built into BAMF?
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that defeats the purpose eh? Is this the same thing built into BAMF?
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I am not sure.. i don't use BAMF..
I'm at USC in LA, and since yesterday my phone has been having issues connecting to LTE. I haven't heard any news of outages,though, so I'm wondering if something is borked with my phone. I was on CM7, but I tried going completely back to stock and still no dice. Is anyone else having LTE issues?
haven't heard of anything but gaving the same issues since yesterday. In the Burbank area.
Oh, good — then maybe there's a chance that it's not just my phone. Even 3G sometimes drops out, and nothing comes up for LTE Only except 1X.
Weird that nobody is reporting anything, though.
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Oh, good — then maybe there's a chance that it's not just my phone. Even 3G sometimes drops out, and nothing comes up for LTE Only except 1X.
Weird that nobody is reporting anything, though.
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if you are using the radio from chingys leak that is the problem,best one I found for la is the original ota update radio
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I think it was an outage because 4G kept flickering all day yesterday and now it seems steadily on today without me changing anything. Thanks for the suggestion though.
there's no LTE yet where i am, but every now and then the 3G will cut in & out for about a day or so(and get stuck at 1X). whenever i call Verizon about it they'll either say there's work being done in my area or an area nearby and just said they could transfer me to a tech to see if there's something on my phone not set correctly or will just give the b.s. "pull your battery for 30 seconds" bit.
good luck if you call them
I'm at USC as well and didn't notice any issues. I was on MR2.5 and flashed the new 802 radio last night which seems even better connection and speed-wise. What radio are you using?
I'm in West LA, on the latest leak, no issues at all yesterday or today.
Currently running on 1x like a boss. Wait a minute that ain't good 4g down on the east side of the city.
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4g is off and on in San Diego
Only getting 1x here in nyc wtf is going on? Where can i go to find out if theres an outage?
Tampa Florida here and I have 3g but its about the speed of 1x and its not stable. Comes and goes sometimes I get the lame 1x too.
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I'm in Pomona area and I'm all over the 3g and 1x
4G is down here in Oklahoma. Was just getting to a good part of my movie on netflix too. Bummer...
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Only getting 1x here in nyc wtf is going on? Where can i go to find out if theres an outage?
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same here, it hit about a hour ago. I been reflashing radios and different roms. I think its due to the new cities being added to the 4g network
3G and LTE is out for me too in LA. I'm using 1.48.00.0726w and 0.01.78.0802w_3
currently only 1x and 3G in Vancouver, WA for the past few hours.
LTE is back up. Not sure how long that will last though
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LTE is back up. Not sure how long that will last though
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up again in Manhattan aswell
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LTE is back up. Not sure how long that will last though
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you're right, as soon as i posted it came back up for me.
I just wanted to share something I experienced last night. I recently rooted and flashed a few roms. (ARHD, LeeDroid). I noticed that the "H" icon at the top would toggle between "H" and "3G". I found out the that network was switching from HSDPA to UMTS and back. I thought this was an issue with the Radios / RILs I was using and was going nuts trying to find a good combo. I mean c'mon, it was ALWAYS "H+" for me when I was stock!
Turns out AT&T has been playing tricks on me the whole time. I checked my wifes pure stock Inspire 4G and her network was switching between HSDPA and UMTS too! But her H+ icon was always "H+"... it never changed!
Wow, so the stock AT&T rom always shows "H+" no matter if its UMTS or HSDPA?
Welcome to AT&T. That's what they do.
their '4g" also only goes to like 1.8 lol
On tmo I pull like 8 constantly
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their '4g" also only goes to like 1.8 lol
On tmo I pull like 8 constantly
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I usually peak around 6, although when congested, I'm usually around 4.
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ive been up to 8 down and 1.5 up
Ken4G said:
I just wanted to share something I experienced last night. I recently rooted and flashed a few roms. (ARHD, LeeDroid). I noticed that the "H" icon at the top would toggle between "H" and "3G". I found out the that network was switching from HSDPA to UMTS and back. I thought this was an issue with the Radios / RILs I was using and was going nuts trying to find a good combo. I mean c'mon, it was ALWAYS "H+" for me when I was stock!
Turns out AT&T has been playing tricks on me the whole time. I checked my wifes pure stock Inspire 4G and her network was switching between HSDPA and UMTS too! But her H+ icon was always "H+"... it never changed!
Wow, so the stock AT&T rom always shows "H+" no matter if its UMTS or HSDPA?
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so you've finally discovered on your own what some of us have been saying for months? i wish more people would take it upon themselves to understand it like you did. i hope more people see this thread when they start complaining about lack of H+ on custom roms
Mine has been doing this off and on for quite a while whereas my first one didn't . I've also experienced major call dropping issues. My current is a refurb for a defect in the original. We went through the whole troubleshooting blah blah blah, 3 different sim cards too.
I called and spoke w/ retentions after "warranty" refused a new device to keep my service. Retentions was more than happy to credit my acct $90 to cover the cost of a NIB replacement along w/ waived overnight shipping and activation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muxbFLjZ4fc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/att_lte_network_going_live_sunday
The cities included in this initial wave are Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. Although users in those metro areas will still have very few LTE devices to choose from. Unlike Verizon, which has multiple LTE handsets, AT&T has no phones compatible with the new network. AT&T launched a data stick and a portable hotspot for the LTE network last month. The carrier has also started selling a massively overpriced Android tablet, the HTC Jetstream.
sweet im in San Antonio for a little while, now for AT&T to get some phones for me to use !!!
Now if they could hurry up and increase the HSPA+ speeds. I'm still only getting 3.5mb download and 1mb upload in downtown Dallas.... iPhone 3gs gets about the same download speed, although only half of the upload speed.
Come to the other side of the Metroplex. Downtown Fort Worth and I am getting 5-7mb down, 1.1-1.3 up. I can't wait for the Holiday with LTE. That will be SO sweet.
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Come to the other side of the Metroplex. Downtown Fort Worth and I am getting 5-7mb down, 1.1-1.3 up. I can't wait for the Holiday with LTE. That will be SO sweet.
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X's dos my brotha from anotha motha.
Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
I know the Inspire is not a LTE phone, but just launching the network upgrade has helped me to see vastly improved data speeds. I also know the Speed test app is not accurate, but I have never seen it pull these kind of speeds, especially consistently.
Well, I would like if it came out in Madison soon... (and when AT&T has more LTE Android phones)
Ok I live an hour away from Houston. Do you think I would still be getting LTE? Also do we need a new sim card or anything or does it automaticly happends?
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Ok I live an hour away from Houston. Do you think I would still be getting LTE? Also do we need a new sim card or anything or does it automaticly happends?
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first of all you would need an LTE capable phone....the inspire is not
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Ok I live an hour away from Houston. Do you think I would still be getting LTE? Also do we need a new sim card or anything or does it automaticly happends?
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As mentioned, you would need a LTE phone first. But, being an hour away from Houston, I wouldn't run out and buy one when they become available. I live in the outskirt of Houston and HSPA+ is non existent at home. In Houston where I work, as posted, I am just now seeing the true benefit of HSPA+. Probably some bottlenecks from ongoing upgrades being freed up, maybe a little congestion as well.
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Knowing how AT&T operates, I'd imagine they opened up more bandwidth to the land-based lines to the area first to make sure their LTE debut went well and you're just seeing some of that extra bandwidth.
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I know the Inspire is not a LTE phone, but just launching the network upgrade has helped me to see vastly improved data speeds. I also know the Speed test app is not accurate, but I have never seen it pull these kind of speeds, especially consistently.
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Turn off your wifi, Comcast customer.
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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Turn off your wifi, Comcast customer.
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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I'm not as stupid as you. I know when I'm on wifi. Here is the proof.
Here are some from earlier today. The first two were indoors, a large metal building with offices above on the second floor. The first run was bad, only 2800kbps, but I did hit 4916kbps on the second. I then went outdoors and tested a lil slower than yesterday, but not by much, 6485-7767kbps. I know we can't put too much stock in the Speed Test app, but there is some consistency and I'm getting much higher runs than I had been. Also, it seems to be reading my wifi at home with some accuracy.
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I'm not as stupid as you. I know when I'm on wifi. Here is the proof.
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lol.
Then why do you make statements like LTE network is improving the throughout of a HSPA+ phone on the 3G stack?
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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lol.
Then why do you make statements like LTE network is improving the throughout of a HSPA+ phone on the 3G stack?
"at&t 4G? lol. It's more like 0.4G"
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Show me where I made that statement. I stated that since the LTE launch, my data speeds have suddenly increased and I'm finally seeing true hspa+, and that is a fact. I provided a couple of possible reasons for this, as someone else cited a possibility as well. I know what you saw. You saw the hosted by Comcast in the screenshot. Lol. Anybody with half a brain would know that there would have been a wifi icon in the status bar if I was on wifi. Next time you open your mouth, try not to put your foot in it. Your little signature says it all. Just because you are in a crummy area, doesn't mean it is like that everywheres.
Check my screenshot of prior tests and tell me if you see any improvement compared to yesterday and today. LOL.
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Peace my friends peace
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Peace my friends peace
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I'm good. I just don't appreciate someone implying I'm either stupid or I'm a liar. It certainly isn't inconceivable that while AT&T was building the LTE network here in Houston, they were improving the backhaul for hspa+. Whatever the source of the improvement, I'm thrilled to see true hspa+ speeds. It is something I never expected to see with my Inspire.
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The cities included in this initial wave are Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. Although users in those metro areas will still have very few LTE devices to choose from. Unlike Verizon, which has multiple LTE handsets, AT&T has no phones compatible with the new network. AT&T launched a data stick and a portable hotspot for the LTE network last month. The carrier has also started selling a massively overpriced Android tablet, the HTC Jetstream.[/QUOTE]
No westcoast cities in the works??
They finally turned on hspa+ in okc ok I'm seeing 7-9 dl constanly ul still around 1 but better signal to at my use to get 10- 30 percent now 70 -95 crazy how just one day they just flipped it on finaly I use to leave my phone on edge as o could surf internet faster that way not anymore
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