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FYI: PRL 13xxx means you're on the new Hybrid Network

Originally Posted by Gav508 Tonight I called tech support from Verizon and was surprised to get in touch with a very knowledgeable rep. The Hybrid push is a known issue, but ONLY for certain customers. These customers are in certain areas and are either former Alltel customers or customers that are accessing former Alltels equipment. I to have the 15008 PRL, however my location, New Jersey, I am not affected by the Alltel issue, and even though she said she would send the update to my phone, she stated that it can cause other issues. Since she seemed very knowledgeable about this information, I decided to take her advise and stay clear of this update.
For any of you guys using Alltel towers or equipment, all the info you have read is correct and this pushed update should serve you phone well. Just first verify you are in that Alltel local.
Myself I suffer from loss of internet sometimes moving from one place to another. (home to work). She asked if I frequently get the cannot connect for internet message. I do. She also asked if I get the 1X instead of 3G frequently. I do. She stated that this is a know issue with the Thunderbolt and it can be rectified very easy by doing a full factory reset from settings. Since I was having more issues with the Internet then the phone calls I am going to try this fix. I hate reloading and setting everything back up but I am going to try it anyway.
For anyone thinking of this, this operation puts your phone back to factory release condition. You will lose all contacts and data info. Make sure your contacts, calendar and misc info is backed up first. If you have a Google Account everything is and will reappear after you re sign back in.
Update from the OP: I said 13xxx, but this number could be different for your area. I honestly have no way of telling how many different PRL's there are or which number would say that would definitely tell you that you're on the Hybrid network(If there is one in your area.) I just know my results and that my PRL number changed.
On a quest to figure out why my phone had 3-4 bars of network signal, while my wife's phone had 0-1 bars even when they were next to each, I found this out in the process. If you're on PRL 15008, your phone is connected to the old Verizon Nationwide network. While if your phone shows PRL 13xxx, then your phone is connected to the New Hybrid network. I was on 13004, while she was on 15008. If your PRL shows 15008, I highly recommend you call Verizon and have them upgrade you to the Hybrid network, as this GREATLY increased my wife's signal and fixed her voice calls reception. (Not sure if this does anything for data. She always had good 3G and we're not in a 4G area.) They will push the update to your phone and have you leave it on for a few hours. Afterwards, I pulled the sim card and battery out for 30 seconds, replaced them and let the phone boot up. After 10-20 minutes, the radio will locate the nearest tower and my wife's phone auto updated its PRL number from 15008 to 13006. She now has a constant 3-4 bar signal and her time without a signal is significantly lower. (Same as mine.) Also, if you're rooted, make sure you know the correct stock firmware/radio version as they will probably ask you for this info.
P.S. I would only do this if you're having voice(not data) signal problems like my wife phone was. My wife phone shows 13006 and mine shows 13004, so PRL's can be different numbers for your area. So again, this may help some people and this may do nothing for others. If you already have a great signal, I would leave well enough alone.

How does one find out if they are on PRL 15008?

ApplCobbler said:
How does one find out if they are on PRL 15008?
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Menu>Settings>About phone>software information.

you wouldn't happen to have the radio imformation etc that you need when calling verizon do you? i might just call them tomorrow morning and see what they say if I get the correct info.

nosympathy said:
you wouldn't happen to have the radio imformation etc that you need when calling verizon do you? i might just call them tomorrow morning and see what they say if I get the correct info.
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Mine is 1.12.605.6 software/1.16.00.0223 baseband. Not rooted.

Mine reads PRL Version 14001. Would you recomend i call verizon?!
Thanks for this tip, I have not heard it before. Would be sweet if it helped my service!

livestrong2012 said:
Mine reads PRL Version 14001. Would you recomend i call verizon?!
Thanks for this tip, I have not heard it before. Would be sweet if it helped my service!
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yeah, I have 14001 too. Are you on a legacy Alltel plan?

I am on 1508 and in a 4G area. I don't know about the hybrid network or what not but I know that coming from Tmobile, I have great voice reception.
Just today I started to get 4G at my apartment. The coverage map always showed me in a strong 4G area but I was only getting 3g until today.

That is my first time hearing about 14xxx. But it could be the correct PRL for your area. Wouldn't hurt to call and find out. Also, have the regular Verizon plan. Not sure what the legacy Alltel plan is, as I never had Alltel service. I'm located in Central Florida btw.

PJnc284 said:
yeah, I have 14001 too. Are you on a legacy Alltel plan?
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I sure am, didn't think about that, goo call man! Would it screw things up to change over to hybrid? for example i still have unlimited messaging and internet for like 15-20 bucks a month way back from my alltel haha and would HATE to screw that up.

I'm on 15008 in Houston my phone is set it LTE mode (no switching to 3G) and I almost always have full bars and can get D/L speeds 20-30 easily.

my_handle said:
I'm on 15008 in Houston my phone is set it LTE mode (no switching to 3G) and I almost always have full bars and can get D/L speeds 20-30 easily.
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Damn you lucky bastard... lol

my_handle said:
I'm on 15008 in Houston my phone is set it LTE mode (no switching to 3G) and I almost always have full bars and can get D/L speeds 20-30 easily.
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see I live in cincinnati and was getting those speeds pre rooting, now I don't get close to those speeds. I am going to call verizon tomorrow and ask about these PRL business and see what I can make happen.

nosympathy said:
see I live in cincinnati and was getting those speeds pre rooting, now I don't get close to those speeds. I am going to call verizon tomorrow and ask about these PRL business and see what I can make happen.
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Have you downloaded the 4g fixes for the VirusRom?! I hear they will bring your speeds right back up to par! I am not in a 4g area therefor i can not confirm but a lot of other users have said after they downloaded the fix everything was back to normal!
Just thought i might see if that helps. Good luck!

I called Verizon and even got tier 2 tech support...they said they have NO upgrade for PRI......he told me to pull the batter..then the SIM card......and see if it helps....I still have 15008 PRI. The tech informed me that it depends what part of the city you are in. Maybe your wife got the wrong tower when you activated the phone and she got the 13000 when you pulled the card. Do not think there is an upgrade for this.
That is why everyone has a different PRI

livestrong2012 said:
Have you downloaded the 4g fixes for the VirusRom?! I hear they will bring your speeds right back up to par! I am not in a 4g area therefor i can not confirm but a lot of other users have said after they downloaded the fix everything was back to normal!
Just thought i might see if that helps. Good luck!
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I have just been lazy and haven't fixed my signiture, I am running the Das BAMF rom. Although my 4G sucks on every rom. It cuts in and out, and so forth. Unroot my phone, instant 20-30 down speeds every time.

So what does it mean when my PRL is 1?
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Carl G35c said:
So what does it mean when my PRL is 1?
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I dk, but my phone was on 15008 and i started messing around with 3G and I am now on PRL 1 myself lol.

+1 Houston/Sugar Land with full 4G

Does the PRI change if you flash a new rom?
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Sadly giving up on 4G for now...

I got the phone on day one. The first thing I noticed as I looked at the phone as I walked out the door to my car was the 4g icon. Yay, I am on 4g! Wait, where did the icon go? It's pretty much been that way since I have had it. I keep it on Wifi at home. To put it on 4g, pretty much kills having a MOBILE smartphone. Data is the lifeblood of a smartphone and if it is not there, what's the point.
I have tried every single fix read here (and other forums). Including:
Rev A fix
Hard Reset
Pulling Battery and Sim card and placing back in
I have tried everything but take the phone back and complaining (rooted it).
Per the Verizon coverage map, I am (my house) in a 4g area. On the map, they ask for your address and it say's "I am covered" for 4g. I will note there are a few pockets on the map near my home that is 4g extended. I had been thinking it's just my area. As I would drive around, it would seem to lock onto 4g. But lately, no matter where I go, 4g goes in and out.
When the 4g goes in and out, it is killing all data. It's not like it quickly finds the 3g and resumes data transfer, it just stops. Goes to 1x after a while mostley.
So where I am at right now is that I have forced 3g (using Phone Info app) and now can get reliable mobile data.
Should I be patience with the network and wait it out or should I take this back and ***** (possibly being the device itself)? When does one suppose a possible software fix will be put out for the Thunderbolt?

Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
If thats the case I know you said you tried the Rev A fix but just to double check did you:
Use the ##778# menu (hit call after ##778#)-->password is 000000-->modem settings-->Rev A-->choose enable-->hit the menu button on the tbolt and commit changes
Also have you had verizon try to swap out your sim card and/or called them up and made sure your current sim card is provisioned correctly? If both of these are the case and you tried all the other standard stuff I would go get the phone swapped out for another new device before your time runs out. I had the same problem and the Rev A fix did it for me.
jvward

What city are you in?

psufan5 said:
What city are you in?
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.

Maybe return it and get a new TB?
I didn't have 4G in my home although Verizon's little "insert address" said I would. When I called, however, they said that I was on the border and it's a tough call for now.
When I started driving around to different areas, however, it picked up 4G signal just fine. When driving back into a 3G area it switched with no issue.

psufan5 said:
What city are you in?
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And thats the right question to ask.
My 4G, in Los Angeles, is amazing. But Verizon is just starting to get 4G up and running in many cities right now, cant expect to have great coverage for many more months.

jvward said:
Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
jvward
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When the 4g drops, data stops. No icon. Sometimes 3g shows up. Mostly 1x. Lately, nothing. No icon, no data.

jawa5636 said:
Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.

Almost, but hanging on by a thread....
I am new to Verizon and I picked this up the day after launch. My two weeks are up. I am not in the 4G area (home), but spend most of my waking moment in a 4G area (work). While the phone itself doesn't have a hard time switching between networks on the handheld (I've watched it go from 3 to 4G while driving, I can almost pinpoint the switching area), it does have a hard time when in WiFi Hotspot Mode.
Here's what I mean. I'll be on wireless tether in a 4G zone and then without notice, the phone reports (via Hotspot App) that there is no mobile network ready and there is no data connection icon on the top menu bar. My Xoom is much more reliable on maintaining a connection (3G of course).
This is my only complaint about the 4G network, but it's a small one. The handheld itself is wonderful. I'm keeping both for now.
Check out my speed test on WiFi tether.

Verizon confirmed on the phone with me that there is in fact a bug in HTCs software switching from 4G to 3G when coverage drops. It should be fixed... In the mean time make sure you are using an app from the market to switch to 3G only unless you need 4G.
Other than that, just return it and wait for something else.

ridobe said:
I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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LOL. I live straight down 747 in Liberty Twp. (few miles up from Beckett Ridge). Driving around would get me a better connection (4g) at first but lately, as I drive around, it's all over the board. Most the time there is no data icon. I have another app (Phone Info) that has a toggle.
It gets frustrating in that I don't know if the issue is the phone, network or both. Hard to troubleshoot. I suppose I should mosey on down to the mall for anything and see what kind of 4g I get.

I am in almost the same situation as the OP, I have 4G everywhere but my home which I have confirmed with VZW is in a 4G coverage area, not an extended coverage area either. I have narrowed it down to my street exactly. Right after I turn down imy street I lose 4G.
I then once I am home and no I don't mean indoors just at my house I frequently go between nothing, 1x, and 3G(Very Weak) with sporadic data. Will not get 4G back unless I drive around. This is my second device, and second trouble ticket with VZW this time giving more detailed information.
I have also tried every possible solution but unfortunately switching to Rev. A is not a "solution" for me as I am in a 4G area and if I wanted 3G I probably would have just kept my Droid X.
I sure hope this bug if it is one in the software will be fixed with an update or VZW can sort it out if it is my network.

ridobe said:
I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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Update:
Per my experience yesterday, if you are within the 275 loop, you are golden. Once I hit West Chester/Beckett Ridge, LTE started dropping. At my house, it is almost non-existent.

LTE extended

I live in a city that is in the LTE extended coverage and have been bouncing in and out around my house, Its suppose to be solid coverage. But whatever. Does any one know what conditions would cause me not to pick it up? When I have the 4gs its full bars and good connection but Its in sporadic areas, Also will the new radios allow a better connection, I'm going to try and see but any advance knowledge would be great

Try putting your phone in LTE mode using the app Phone Info. I had the same issue and once I changed it picked up lte all the time.
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LTE on off from the market is just a tad quicker. I like it since I'm always switching between 4g and 3g only modes to save battery.
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So far that hasn't seemed to do the trick =(

Try this
Go into EPST and set your REV-A to enabled instead of the stock eHRPD, as the algorithm has trouble in some locations. I had the same and even somtimes could not lock to either 3 or 4g until i did, made me think the device was bad but is ok now.

How do u go into EPST

Dial ##778 and hit dial then select "Edit Mode" the password is 000000
That is 6 zero's
Then go to Modem Settings, and select Rev. A change to Enable then hit menu and commit modifications. Your phone will then reboot.

"** Access the 4G LTE network within the Extended Coverage Area; certain conditions may cause your service to connect to 3G in this Area."

kierandill said:
"** Access the 4G LTE network within the Extended Coverage Area; certain conditions may cause your service to connect to 3G in this Area."
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I know, do we know what those conditions are?
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kierandill said:
"** Access the 4G LTE network within the Extended Coverage Area; certain conditions may cause your service to connect to 3G in this Area."
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This. Thats the whole point of the extended coverage area.
-sent via 1.21 giggawatts of android.

kierandill said:
"** Access the 4G LTE network within the Extended Coverage Area; certain conditions may cause your service to connect to 3G in this Area."
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It seems more like this means "there's no LTE coverage here!" than anything, to me at least. A lot of our city is covered under "Extended" and there's no coverage in any of that area, and a lot of areas marked "4G LTE" aren't even covered. It doesn't bounce between 4G and 3G either.
I'd like to know the conditions too. it's probably that they're still testing the towers often.

cell recepyion
Is there any disadvanatages to you cell reception, by doing this either on 4g or 3g ?

is there any disadvanatge by doing this to you're cell phone reception on 3g or 4g?

mariol90 said:
It seems more like this means "there's no LTE coverage here!" than anything, to me at least. A lot of our city is covered under "Extended" and there's no coverage in any of that area, and a lot of areas marked "4G LTE" aren't even covered. It doesn't bounce between 4G and 3G either.
I'd like to know the conditions too. it's probably that they're still testing the towers often.
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They are also not too accurate with their maps, one person posted that they weren't getting coverage where they were supposed to, even outdoors, called it in, and a day or 2 later the map was updated to show that there was no coverage there. If they have a down tower or something that's one thing, but if you are within extended coverage and clearly out in the open and can't get signal you should definitely call in and let them know.

will this change interfer with call quality going in or out ?

howard5674 said:
will this change interfer with call quality going in or out ?
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It shouldn't. AFAIK voice is still using CDMA.

I am in an extended area and my phone bounces in and out of 4G to 3G. Most of the time I am in 3G and for like 1 hour out the day I get 4G.
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They are also not too accurate with their maps, one person posted that they weren't getting coverage where they were supposed to, even outdoors, called it in, and a day or 2 later the map was updated to show that there was no coverage there. If they have a down tower or something that's one thing, but if you are within extended coverage and clearly out in the open and can't get signal you should definitely call in and let them know.
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sounds like sprints entire wimax network! thank god im not with them anymore.
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I know, do we know what those conditions are?
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Condition A: Trees
Condition B: Hills

sc4fpse said:
Condition A: Trees
Condition B: Hills
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Condition C: Walls/Being indoors

Slow hspa+

I'm in San Francisco right now and am clearly in AT&T's 4g territory. Well I'm only pulling 3mb down on a speed test. And my buddy who is sitting right next to me with his iPhone 4 is pulling 4.5 down. I thought the iPhone 4 was only hspa and not even plus?
Is it possible ATT is throttling me because I dont have a "4G" specific plan?
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Try switching radios
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A data plan is of course, always going to be a data plan. There is no difference from one plan to another AFAIK besides 2GB and 4GB or if you're grandfathered for unlimited.
Just obviously with software updates etc. to enable "4G".
I'm up here in MT and I barely touch 1.5Mbps if I'm lucky. My friend has the same issue, and AT&T keeps telling me it's because MT is a "new acquisition". BS I've had the service for almost 3 months now. Learn to put up more towers!
Anyways, that's my $0.02.
-Cyanide

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Try switching radios
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Wells there's not much I can do about it now. I'm in the back seat of a car going 80 miles an hour towards a non '4G' area.
I was certain I flashed the right radio. I have the H emblem next to my service indicator.
Can anyone that has experience with san Francisco confirm my speeds are unusually low? Also does anyone know if the iPhone is hspa+?
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Cyanideskittle2010 said:
A data plan is of course, always going to be a data plan. There is no difference from one plan to another AFAIK besides 2GB and 4GB or if you're grandfathered for unlimited.
Just obviously with software updates etc. to enable "4G".
I'm up here in MT and I barely touch 1.5Mbps if I'm lucky. My friend has the same issue, and AT&T keeps telling me it's because MT is a "new acquisition". BS I've had the service for almost 3 months now. Learn to put up more towers!
Anyways, that's my $0.02.
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3 months is not a long time when you think about it. It takes 3 years and about 2.9 million dollars to put up one single tower.
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Cyanideskittle2010 said:
A data plan is of course, always going to be a data plan. There is no difference from one plan to another AFAIK besides 2GB and 4GB or if you're grandfathered for unlimited.
Just obviously with software updates etc. to enable "4G".
I'm up here in MT and I barely touch 1.5Mbps if I'm lucky. My friend has the same issue, and AT&T keeps telling me it's because MT is a "new acquisition". BS I've had the service for almost 3 months now. Learn to put up more towers!
Anyways, that's my $0.02.
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I'm getting 1.5 in my hometown of Sacramento, but that's clearly not in 4g territory so I assumed its just 3g there (even though I have the h emblem). 3 is definitely than 1.5 but it still doesn't explain why my buddies iPhone is pulling more down when its apparently not capable of hspa+
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What rom are you on? Try different radios and make sure to flash the matching ril. And verify that you are you their 4g network by going to settings>about phone>network
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trell959 said:
What rom are you on? Try different radios and make sure to flash the matching ril. And verify that you are you their 4g network by going to settings>about phone>network
It says hsdpa, is that right?
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I have read in a number of posts that the data plan does matter. The 4G plan offer access to another APN, with is required for authentication on the 4G network. In the Dev forum, there is a thread about APNs that discusses this.

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I have read in a number of posts that the data plan does matter. The 4G plan offer access to another APN, with is required for authentication on the 4G network. In the Dev forum, there is a thread about APNs that discusses this.
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I'm going to go check that out immediately.
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I really wish this hadn't been moved to QA because no one looks in here. I am really trying to find a solution to this issue. I have been searching and can't come up with a definite answer. I need people who live in the bay to post what speeds they have been getting. I think I may need to call att.

seh6183 said:
I really wish this hadn't been moved to QA because no one looks in here. I am really trying to find a solution to this issue. I have been searching and can't come up with a definite answer. I need people who live in the bay to post what speeds they have been getting. I think I may need to call att.
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Did you check the thread in dev section and edit the build prop? Might call att And see if there are certain apns needed for the 4G network authentication.

zelendel said:
Did you check the thread in dev section and edit the build prop? Might call att And see if there are certain apns needed for the 4G network authentication.
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I saw the the thread about editing the build prop yes. I just checked att coverage maps for 4g and Sacramento is now in the coverage zone. Should now be seeing hspa+ speeds here. I'll do a test when I get home but I'm willing bet my roommates iPhone will still pull faster speeds than me. I will also get on the phone with att and find out if i need a different plan. Will report back.

seh6183 said:
I saw the the thread about editing the build prop yes. I just checked att coverage maps for 4g and Sacramento is now in the coverage zone. Should now be seeing hspa+ speeds here. I'll do a test when I get home but I'm willing bet my roommates iPhone will still pull faster speeds than me. I will also get on the phone with att and find out if i need a different plan. Will report back.
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Comparing the iphone to the inspire is not really fair as the iphone doesnt use the same apn settings, and they also have a reserved amount of bandwith set aside for iphones only. Not to mention they seem to go faster due to alot of things being cached on Apples servers which the iphone connects to first so it seems like they can pull data faster but it is not what it seems.

Ah, I'm not the only one pulling down slower speeds than other devices. My GF's Infuse consistently pulls down 6-7 mbps while my Inspire, at the same time and location, will pull down 3-4. My build prop is edited, and I've tried other radios (and rils) with not much luck. Is this a device capability issue?
The only thing I haven't done is mess with APNs much. I feel as though it won't change anything, but eventually I'll try that as well.

Simba501 said:
Ah, I'm not the only one pulling down slower speeds than other devices. My GF's Infuse consistently pulls down 6-7 mbps while my Inspire, at the same time and location, will pull down 3-4. My build prop is edited, and I've tried other radios (and rils) with not much luck. Is this a device capability issue?
The only thing I haven't done is mess with APNs much. I feel as though it won't change anything, but eventually I'll try that as well.
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I would try that, As it can have a great impact on your connection. I could set you up with the old apn settings and you would pull edge speeds. So it only goes to reason that the APN settings might have a large thing to do with it.

zelendel said:
I would try that, As it can have a great impact on your connection. I could set you up with the old apn settings and you would pull edge speeds. So it only goes to reason that the APN settings might have a large thing to do with it.
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Yeah. Most users speeds double
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zelendel said:
I would try that, As it can have a great impact on your connection. I could set you up with the old apn settings and you would pull edge speeds. So it only goes to reason that the APN settings might have a large thing to do with it.
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Yeah. Most users speeds double
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I'm going to look around at the speeds others are getting. I just can't seem to get more than 3-5 mbps. I know my area is capable of it because my GF's Infuse gets 5-8 mbps consistently, and at the same time I test mine. Weird.
I'll wait for compelling results before I change mine, because I've been modding heavily the last few days and I'm exactly not in the testing mood.

seh6183 said:
I really wish this hadn't been moved to QA because no one looks in here. I am really trying to find a solution to this issue. I have been searching and can't come up with a definite answer. I need people who live in the bay to post what speeds they have been getting. I think I may need to call att.
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The day after I got my Inspire, I went to an A's game. The best I got on that trip was 1.5/0.35. A week later in Sac, in the parking lot of the Kaiser on Morse Avenue, I was able to pull 5.0/0.35. The best I got at home in Woodland was 3.0/0.35. I am now rooted, running ClearDroid, and get 4-5 down with upload better than 1. I'm still on my unlimited plan.
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No CDMA/LTE option

So i havent really been paying that much attention to LTE, since i live out where it is not available yet. But today, i am working in Atlanta, where i know there is LTE coverage from Sprint, and my phone never connects to LTE and it does not connect to 4g in alot of places where my Epic did. So i realized that in my mobile network options, I have an option for CDMA/4g, but I do not have an option for CDMA/LTE. I called Sprint and of course they want me to take it to a service and repair center, but my phone is rooted. I am afraid all they are going to say is me rooting the phone is why it is not working and that I should not have done that, and probably void my warranty. Does anyone else have this problem and know a fix for it? Please let me know if you do!
Thanks!

I was under the impression that it would automatically connect to LTE when it was available. I haven't seen/heard of a way to toggle LTE. you're wondering if something is wrong because you were not able to connect to LTE in an area which is supposed to have LTE? Are certain that LTE was available?
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It is my understanding that it does auto connect to LTE if you have it set to CDMA/LTE or Automatic. I am in an area where I know LTE is available because i checked the coverage map, and called to verify as well. Also, when connected to LTE, i thought i had heard that instead of saying 4g, there is actually a symbol that says LTE. I was also told by the Sprint rep, that my option should read CDMA/LTE instead of CDMA/4g.

whitelightnin3006 said:
It is my understanding that it does auto connect to LTE if you have it set to CDMA/LTE or Automatic. I am in an area where I know LTE is available because i checked the coverage map, and called to verify as well. Also, when connected to LTE, i thought i had heard that instead of saying 4g, there is actually a symbol that says LTE. I was also told by the Sprint rep, that my option should read CDMA/LTE instead of CDMA/4g.
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Pretty sure it says 4g when connected to lte. There is no wimax chip so lte is there 4g
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Rangerbry said:
Pretty sure it says 4g when connected to lte. There is no wimax chip so lte is there 4g
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That makes sense to me, because that would explain why I dont get 4g in some spots where I used to get it with my Epic. But, I still dont think it is correct, I am showing 4g right now and my speed is 5.5mb down. LTE should be higher than that shouldnt it? Also, that still doesnt explain why I would have the CDMA/4g option instead of having CDMA/LTE option.
Can anyone confirm on the Photon Q that when connected to LTE is shows an LTE icon, and that your option in mobile networks does say CDMA/LTE?

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Pretty sure it says 4g when connected to lte. There is no wimax chip so lte is there 4g
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I would have to agree, I don't think there's anything in the Android framework to show "LTE" as a radio status... It should show 4g.
I say this, and I've never seen the phone connected to LTE/4G.
Also, OP - I'm sure this goes without saying, but you seem to think that because you had Wimax there before, you'll have LTE there now - that is certainly not going to be the case. In my area we have great Wimax service, but we're not even on the roadmap for LTE from Sprint...
So just because you had 4g on Sprint there before does not mean you'll automatically have 4g there! I hope their rollout is pretty aggressive, but obviously it's a heavy capital cost.

CDMA/4G is what you want it set to for LTE. Also, not all of Atlanta is lit up yet...maybe like 30-40%. If it exists where you are it will connect.

swintec said:
CDMA/4G is what you want it set to for LTE. Also, not all of Atlanta is lit up yet...maybe like 30-40%. If it exists where you are it will connect.
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The map that i am looking at on Sprint's website shows basically 100% of Atlanta, and much of the outskirts and suburbs as well having LTE coverage. It looks like most of about a 50 mile radius of Atlanta is lit up, but I only get coverage for a very small percentage of the area that their map is showing that supposedly gets LTE service. So either my phone is messed up, or they are full of sh**

My option in settings says cdma/4g.
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The icon is 4g on the phone, I've seen at least one video review of the phone somewhere where it shows 4g on the screen. And the others are correct, 4g *is* LTE on this phone in terms of the network settings.

I would look at this forum (on another website, www.s4gru.com), it shows all the current released markets and the percent complete. The Atlanta market is only 30% complete so you probably half to be in the right spot to get 4G and in the perfect spot to get over 10 mbps. But as the days (weeks, months etc) go on it will get better. I'm in Rochester NY and we are in the 3rd round for release which wont see any LTE until Summer 2013.....I think Sprint's completion plan of end of 2013 is not going to work out...but I am hoping that Sprint proves me wrong.

zrmxp95 said:
I would look at this forum (on another website, www.s4gru.com), it shows all the current released markets and the percent complete. The Atlanta market is only 30% complete so you probably half to be in the right spot to get 4G and in the perfect spot to get over 10 mbps. But as the days (weeks, months etc) go on it will get better. I'm in Rochester NY and we are in the 3rd round for release which wont see any LTE until Summer 2013.....I think Sprint's completion plan of end of 2013 is not going to work out...but I am hoping that Sprint proves me wrong.
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This seems to be more accurate than Sprints site. That is what pisses me off, you can go to their site and check coverage, and according to it, and their reps on the phone, LTE should be available now, all over Atlanta. That is obviously not the case though. Thanks for the link

whitelightnin3006 said:
Can anyone confirm on the Photon Q that when connected to LTE is shows an LTE icon, and that your option in mobile networks does say CDMA/LTE?
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Nope, it says "4G" both on the indication icon and on the Mobile Data connection options page.
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"4G" is just dumb marketing-speak anyway.